I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
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I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
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Have you done a search yet? There are a couple of sticky threads on hardspl and rom flashing at the top of the Rhodium Rom Development sub-forum. They tell you all you need to know.
Grant: read the sticky's and wiki at the ROM forum.....
Short answer, hard spl changes the bootloader on the phone thus "unlocking" it for other ROMs. Without hard spl, you can't flash other ROMs. Read the stickys and good luck.
I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
ROMS, etc.
Grant,
This site is full of very technical minds, who disassemble code to build updated operating systems and tweaks for their devices. It takes a while to sort through all the acronyms that are used. I've been reading on this site for several years, and I'm still lost most of the time!
Do a lot of reading before you try ANY of this stuff; or your new, very expensive pocket pc phone (or whatever you call yours?) becomes a very expensive paper-weight!
This is a great resource site, but you have to become fluent in the language before you can converse with these people. Good luck, and happy learning!
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I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
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Grant, start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Read through that about 3 times and it'll finally start making some sense.
Overall, many people are quite happy with the ROM (operating system) and programs that come with the phone and thus leave it the way it is. Others feel that it is quite to slow and bulky (uses too much memory with crapware that you don't ever use) and thus want to put a nicer looking, faster, smoother ROM on the phone. Also, this allows us to keep up to date with the newest ROMs as they are realeased.
Downsides: you've got to learn about flashing, you're ROM may be buggy since it's newer or it may be more stable if it's just a stock rom with crapware removed. Either way, to do any of this, you must first hard spl to allow the phone to take other ROMs. If you don't hard spl first, you phone will be mad at you and not wake up! Be warned that if you do this, you void your warranty (albeit there are ways to go back explained on the hard spl page) and you may become very very addicted and make posts on XDA froums on a holiday at 7 am in bed with your wife giving you dirty looks!
I've read everything 7 or more times lol and it did start to make sense =D after about 7 hours or reading last night I finally figured everything out, I think mike would be the best ROM to go with but I'm going to leave mine stock for now.
Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the begining, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal stregth, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combinations. Its fun.
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Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the beginning, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal strength, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combination. Its fun.
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Now that you say all this I have a good question for you! my TP2 is 400 speed and I want to start playing playstation games on it, would flashing it over make it run faster for this purpose? and what would be the best one to go to for this purpose (and I disabled TF3D as well )
Can you flash a ROM in powercuts?
I too have just about got what it means to Hardspl and Flash a ROM. I live in a remote part of India where there are at least 4 power cuts a day (usually when you need the pump for a shower or are downloading). What would happen in the (extremely probable) event of a power cut whilst installing a new ROM? Is it possible to download to a PC first then connect to the TP2 later. How long do you need power for? Many thanks.
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I too have just about got what it means to Hardspl and Flash a ROM. I live in a remote part of India where there are at least 4 power cuts a day (usually when you need the pump for a shower or are downloading). What would happen in the (extremely probable) event of a power cut whilst installing a new ROM? Is it possible to download to a PC first then connect to the TP2 later. How long do you need power for? Many thanks.
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Yes, you can just use your laptop to flash the rom. Make sure you have enough power on your laptop though. You wouldn't want the laptop to die in the middle of a flash. Same with your phone. It needs a minimum of 50% power. I would make sure to leave the laptop disconnected from the outlet though. You wouldn't want a surge or anything connecting with your phone.
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Now that you say all this I have a good question for you! my TP2 is 400 speed and I want to start playing playstation games on it, would flashing it over make it run faster for this purpose? and what would be the best one to go to for this purpose (and I disabled TF3D as well )
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You download the ROMs first then flash then on you device (TP2). You also download Hard-SPL and run it from you laptop, BUT it does require an internet connection as it connects at some point while in the process. It dosen't take very long, but not sure what would happen if you lost internet while you where running Hard-SPL.
Man, grant thats a challenge for me, never tried games, not a big fan. But yes if you want speed try the lean ROMs, almost all chefs have a lite version. If you want you can start paying with the kichen to have your own version. Let us know how your things fan out.
davidgee, for your question, when you are doing Hard SPL try to work with a laptop or UPS to avoid the power failure during the process, it can even brick your device. But for ROM or Radio flashing just use the SD card method, in brief copy the nbh file to card and boot to bootloader. Check the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium
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Almost everyone I see on here has some sort of a problem with their phone. White screen, wifi not working, menus not showing up and god knows what else. Is there any ROM/upgrade/software that will make this phone stable?
mine runs perfectly fine, if you are unhappy with the current wm6 selections you can always fall back on the original cingular wm5 rom...
The very nature of the 8525, and the people on this forum, is FOR FUN!
The phone is highly cusomizable, and therein lies the instability.
Stick with stock and it will run fine!
only thing that really bothers me on custel rom is the IE getting stuck and not loading any pages. Requiring soft reset other then that so far so good!
reading threads and all the issues people have im wondering what they do to make it happen.
Ive had my phone for 6 months, flashed lots of different ROMS including WM5 and WM6 and i havent had any issues that i cant fix.
Software is wrote by humans so the quick and easy answer is .. no. There will never be a stable software that will work 100% on 100% of the phones. If you use Windows then your an unpaid beta tester for Microsoft. Think of this forum as a Microsoft forum for collecting all the issues and fixes for this software as a collaboration of every forum member. Just replace the Microsoft with HTC and that is more like it.
Stable and bug-free software? You are implying that people do their job and also test software? LOL, you should be a comedian. Look how well RIM tested their software last week (took down much of the Blackberry network).
that being said, what kinds of software are you looking for? Music/Video players? Text messaging apps? Office apps? Games?
I'm shocked at a question like this from someone with 6 whole posts. Ok, lesson in sarcasm over.
Look, you read a little and saw that with every new ROM there are problems. Read a little more and you usually find the fix to that very problem. If you yourself run into a problem, then you post and state what kinda problem you're having with what, then everyone else can help you. *sigh* This forum isn't a place where somethings released and all the angels and cherubs sing with praise. You have to have the patience and drive to know you're gonna run into problems from the get-go, but decide to stick around and work through them. Good luck in your quest to find the holy grail of apps though.
well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way, simply frustrated at fixin one thing and having another go wrong. Im gonna keep flashing untill it works rigth and if not, Im gonna giveup and go with stock since I'm not all that knowledgeable about this anyway
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well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way, simply frustrated at fixin one thing and having another go wrong. Im gonna keep flashing untill it works rigth and if not, Im gonna giveup and go with stock since I'm not all that knowledgeable about this anyway
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Re-flashing a new ROM wont fix anything. Have you read anything here? It's not offensive, and you're not offending anyone, but the whole process of flashing a ROM and seeing what works and what doesn't is what happens when you decide to do this. Each person here that's flashed a new ROM has thier own preferences as to what they want installed with it. Some apps are buggy, some aren't. If two people with identical phones flash identical new ROM's, they still might have totally different problems stemming from issues caused by what radio version they decided to try, what apps they installed or didn't install, whether they found the CAB that fixes a known problem or not. When I flashed my 8525 I went with Black 1.2 and still use it. Why? It's fast as hell, and over the weeks following the initial flash I found all the fixes to any problems I had incurred. Now my phone is sweet...to me. I'm happy. It wasn't a one day fix-all. Takes time to get it as near perfect as possible. Still freezes when I wanna run WAD on it, but oh well. It's something I know will happen when I use it. No biggie.
You need to be patient, and if you can't then this place isn't for you. You might be happier with the stock ROM that comes with your phone. It'll be less of a headache for yourself. Good luck in whatever you decide. I hope you decide to read more and work through the bugs. IMO I think you'll be happier in the end.
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well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way, simply frustrated at fixin one thing and having another go wrong. Im gonna keep flashing untill it works rigth and if not, Im gonna giveup and go with stock since I'm not all that knowledgeable about this anyway
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If you wish to have the most stable device possible your probably best off to download the latest Cingular ROM (which is WM5), ALL the WM6 roms here are developed by the community (obviously the chefs do the real hard work but the feedback from us users helps develop them) and such are improving ALL the time. Firstly since you are not up to date with your version of Black, upgrade to the latest one...also make sure you upgrade the SPL,IPL and Radio...these can contribute to stability.
How to upgrade to Black 2.5, IPL 1.04, SPL 2.10.olipro, Radio 1.41.00.10.
IF you are still not convinced then I would downgrade to WM5.
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well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long.
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isn't this the whole point of this forum and the wikis??
i'm not experienced as those other guys, but i'm pretty sure i've learned enough in the last 2 months to not have to sit here all day debugging, the only reason i spend 2 hours is b/c there's always better roms coming out and then u gotta customize your phone again...
Finally Usable
Have you even tried ANY WM6 ROM from this forum in comparison to the original WM5 Cingular 8525 ROM? My 8525 was nearly unusable. It locked up constantly. It had the sleep of death constantly. It was horrible! I decided to flash it with a WM6 ROM for the hell of it, and suddenly it was a useful device again. I have tried several ROMs on this forum, and all were better than the original, and all required some tweaking to work how I like it. The current big three, Black 2.5, LVSW, and CUSTEL, are all infinitely more usable out of the gate than that POS WM5 version ever was. If you want a trouble free phone, get a plain jane phone that does nothing but make phone calls. If you want a useable Hermes device, flash it with any one of these ROMS.
okay
I installed windows xp back on my pc which made things a little easier. I think my phones finaly working in order without any suprises.
Simple question I want all opinions, I just got my 2nd 8525, and this time I am gonna do it RIGHT!! (last 1 i had I was super n00b and kiled it within 48hrs I cried for a week) Anyways I just want the simplest answer or opinion I want my 8525 to last forever. SO I will flash it to the BEST WM6 ROM once and never again will I change it.
SO I am looking for just the BEST GENERAL OVERALL WM6 ROM, I am just gonna be using it as phone and only use the WiFI to connect to the NET, so the ROM I am looking for needs to be STABLE and needs to NOT ruin me or my 8525, I have been reading everyones SIGs to see what ROMs ya'll use, but I just WANT the Opinions of the regulars here
WHAT Windows Mobile 6 ROM should I upgrade to?? I will take ALL suggestions PLEASE help me, I dont wanna kill my 8525 again, I just want to flash it and leave it at that!!
THANK YOU EVERYONE
P.S I'm not a complete n00b if u read the whole thread you'll see I do my homework
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
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the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
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doubt he understands... =)
follow this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
and get Farias/Dr Puttinghams R32
enjoy ..
Remember follow the steps
HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro)
You will find it and visit
wiki.xda-developers.com
Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework, I have read the wiki over and over, and I already have DONE the HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro).
Once you've got HardSPL on, it's up to you really. Some are good and some are...flaky, to be polite.
I would start with the official one from your carrier and use that for a day or two so you have a good, hopefully stable, benchmark to measure the competition up against.
Bang all your apps on it and see how it runs then try the same thing on the cooked ones.
Smiffy.
I Phrased my Subject of the Thread and my actual question WRONG, I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want, be I want the opinions of you guys, the ones that call me a n00b, I value your opinion, I did my homework, I just want to flash my 8525 ONCE to a WM6 ROM that will last me the life of the phone. Heres what I like 1. theme skins 2. stability 3. good wifi 4. and I guess I want no bloatware so it will be a FAST ROM
So basically I just want to know what you guys (the experts) can suggest to me. Just want 1 ROM that will enable me to use my 8525 to the best of its capabilities!!
thank you
nicknowsky
i have used the offical ROM on my last 8525, and thats the one that got me i n troube and killed my 1st 8525
if u read the post above I gave a description of what i am looking for, or you know what I would like to know What The Most Popular WM6 ROM Is?? (no 6.1)
this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework
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I wasn't particularly mentioning you, just noobs in general. Not offence intended
As for a particular ROM. As you mentioned
I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want
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its hard to pick a ROM for you. Generally you can't go wrong with Farias/Dr Puttinghams/schaps to name a few. As for applications, be careful not to overload your phone with .cab's as this will slow it down.
There are a number of ROM's out there which are stripped of applications and built more for speed (though right now I'm having a complete blond moment and can't remeber one of them....doh!!!), and from there you can add to your own personal preferences.
Hey SPARTAN, I noticed u are using WM6.1, but before that what ROM did you use, and better yet what was the ROM that you used the absolute LONGEST??? or what is your personal favorite??
I'm a bit of a ROM freak, as I never keep the same ROM for any real length of time. Think I've used pretty much everything with little tweaks here and there.
Mostly used Schaps, as he tends to provide very stable ROM’s and eagerly awaiting Schaps 6.1 full version, but currently using Faria-R32 / Dr Puttingham WM6.1
Well I am close to going thru with the ROM flash, I just did my weekly REINSTALL of my operating system (been using XP lately) and I just installed the necessary drivers and programs to keep my computer from messing up or having ANY sort of error while the flash process is going on, just the very basics installed, thats really what the cause of death was for my first AT&T 8525(HERMES100) I got sloppy and was then a n00b, did a real n00bish thing and KILLED my 1st 8525. The funny thing with that was I had it for only 48hrs, and I cried for a week after. I still have it, might send it to HTC USA for repair.
But getting back to the todays upgrade, I am still in the process of deciding what ROM I will install, so I gotta ask are there ANY last recommendations on which WM6 ROM I should use?? I just wanna hear any and all last opinions
1st : Shamanix Ultimate v2 Final and 2nd : Kinokin WM6 Final.
I'm valuing ALL opinions
I know, I know this getting annoying and I keep asking dumb questions but I wanna decide, so here is the question
Which is better and/or more stable Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 or 4.01???
and how good is Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31 cause I am almost leaning towards 4.31, but I like I have said before I want stability and something thats gonna keep my 8525 running longest and strongest
This is gonna be it NO more stupidity coming from ME, I just want last opinions on Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 - 4.01 and 4.31
and THANK YOU everyone who took the time to help me, I know members like me get annoying, but I do my homework, I just wanted a little help
THANKS
Opinions, eh? I'm opinionated AND drunk...
Here's mine: go with 6.0 instead of 6.1.
People experienced in dealing with little niggles and issues by altering registry entries or installing lots of small cabs get on fine with 6.1, depending on which ROM of course. If you're new to upgrading then the issues that have yet to ironed out of 6.1 in such as a way as to make it a simple 1-click-to-install-and-you're-done job will probably annoy you too much. Smiffy's advice was really good mate: start with a ROM you can rely on, which basically means your own carrier's. If they haven't produced a WM6 yet (mine, OrangeUK, haven't and probably won't as they do lag rather badly in that area) then go for the most basic, cut-down and reportedly stable 6.0.
After you've got used to using your carrier's mobile you'll notice when the phone's faster or not when using different things on a new ROM. Only move up to 6.1 when you're well-used to how your phone fares with 6.0. (I'm assuming you won't install any benchmarking software. Not calling you lazy as I don't either - I just judge the 'feel' of it.)
I heartily recommend using mattk_r's Pandora Naked 6.0 - it's stable as any ROM I've ever used, including official ROMs. Give me a minute, I'l fetch the link.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1731669
I use a ROM based on the kitchen with a lot of my own kit thrown in. But I didn't start out like that; I started out like you, needing a few pointers, doing a lot of reading and occasionally annoying the hell out of myself.
By the way, if you're not using an SDHC card (which I assume you're not from the sounds of things) do me a favour and stick a copy of the original carrier's ROM on your SD card after renaming it HERIMG.nbh. Should you do a ChunkyMonkey Special and temporarily brick your phone (I used to do it all the time mate) it's an easy out in many cases, even if you can't boot past your bootloader.
(But take the SD card out when you flash your ROM. Although that's good practice anyway, so just do it.. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917&highlight=ultimate
As you can see (if you checked!) Ultimate is based on Schaps 4.31 ROM and more refined.
I'd go for LVSW.
Seriously man, you're asking the impossible. If you've read the forum so throroughly as you've claimed, you'd know that once you start, you'll not stop. Each of the ROMs, whilst good in their own way, has some kind o prolems with it that will make you change it for something else.
For example - Schaps 4.31 - an excellent rom but you have to install a fix for button 5 plus a couple of other gripes. Nothing major but enough to make me eventually keep looking once something different comes along.
You're not going to find the "one" rom.
The only place you'll find the one is in the matrix. Flashing is like the red pill. You're free of restraint but it comes at a cost.
I know I am asking for a "DREAM" I really just wanted opinions of what would be a GOOD, solid WM6 ROM, cause I am gonna flash it ONCE to the ROM I pick and that s IT, not more flashing or trying out new ROMs and this or that.
Put it this way IF you all had to CHOOSE just 1 WM6 ROM to flash and the fate of the world was riding on your choice of ROM, it had to be stable and save humanity, What ROM would that be??
thats the kinda opinions I want to help me make my choice
OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
Hi,
All I do on my spv m3100 is download the version that i want (schapps, pdaviet etc), connect my spv to the pc and sync it (backing up any crucial data) and then double click the ruu wrapper - the program then asks you if you want to auto detect which version of bootloader you want to use which on mine it is usually hard spl, then the program takes over and hey prsto 5 minutes later I'm loading my programs back onto my newly flashed spv ! I have found that this is the best way for me - the mods will be able to give more info but I took the plunge 20 months ago and must have flashed my device with a new rom about once a week!
Take Care,
Seriously
I'm seriously wondering if they can incorporate a noob rule called the don't open new threads without searching RULE . that would seriously help!
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OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
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Hey bro, if you have the oli pro spl on your device then loading a origenal rom with spl integrated is not a good idea. Look for the official wm6 rom only without spl, radio or extended. Here is a link to the official rom without radio, spl or extended. http://rapidshare.com/files/63200881/RUU_signed.nbh You will also need the ruuwrapper.exe file to install this rom on your hermes wich you can find in any custom rom here on xda under the hermes thread. Oh dont mind these neigh sayers bashing the noobs, some ppl here are still nice enough to help you and dont think they are the flashing gods.
@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
It's sounds like you've used Pof's unlocker, is that why you have HardSPL 1.40?
There should be no reason why you can't update it to HardSPL 2.10. I can't remember if 1.40 has the same features when it doesn't allow itself to be overwritten (and can't be arsed to check as that's your job.
It's as Scousemartin states plus you need to do a little more reading but if you want to minimise bricking your phone use a MicrsoSD card, you should be fine doing it that way and 1.40 but try to install 2.10.
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@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
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Point accepted!! Sorry, it just peeves me off.. Guess i need to find some other way to vent my frustrations then adding to the frustrations of others..
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
You can flash hard spl via the sd card method. Its posted on the "hard SPL or how not to brick your Hermes" thread. Page 116. All links to softwares needed as well as instructions there.
Cheers...
You can also use SSPL which also allows you to flash anything. You just execute from SD card.
NP Revrob, no angst here with anyone. I was replying to what was said but not really at the person who made the comment but more just in general really. It can be frustrating for both senior members and newbies alike. I just like to always get folks working/talking with a positive aspect to things as there is more than enough things to bring us down in this day and age.
"it's all good"
Dude
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I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
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Dude, I agree with you totally! don't worry about it, I really appreciate your words.. I've had a rough couple days and totally took it out on a noob! Sorry and Peace out man!
revrob said:
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
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It aint you that caused it man, I'm the harborer of frustrations don't worry about it, you asked a valid question and I'm the one that rained on the parade!! Take it easy and good luck
And on your question, I've had good luck with flashing from SD card, Check the wiki in my first link for flashing from your SD card and give it a go!
Joshkoss,
hey no biggie and certainly no need for sorries either, like I said it wasn't really intended to be directed at you personally just was rasing a point of my own opinion. On the other hand I'm sorry to hear things haven't been good for you. I do hope that whatever is giving or gave you a rough time is either sorted out or start to improve for you as quick as possible. Cheer up and don't let things bring you down my friend, life is to be lived and enjoyed. lol I must sound so weird but hey I like to wish everyone well. SMILE
Don't ask me how or why, but I downloaded HardSPL v7 from a different mirror to the one I had been using previously (and I'm sorry I can't remember which one - I've been doing much downloading of files yesterday and today!), and flashed it on Windows XP, and it worked!!! - so that is now safely installed as well.
Now to upgrade the Radio ROM .......
Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Excellent advice... which is why I strongly recommend always using a MicroSD card. I have seen too many people brick there phones and not have HardSPL on either. With the MicroSD card it's virtually impossible to cause a "break" in the upgrade procedure, whereas using USB/Activesynce it is all too easy to cause or have one.
Even if you do have HardSPL it is a much faster process than using the USB cable and saves you the hassle of finding out how to unbrick your phone with HardSPL installed on it.
When it happens bricking your phone is the worst feeling in the world, but thankfully it's becoming less and less common!
ive looked at the rom section abit, and with all the many different roms, i have no clue what to pick. My first time even considering this so i guess i wouldve thought theird be like 3-4 major roms that are popular, but cant really tell whos using what.
Any suggestions?
most of the time, it is like that. But there came many new roms the past few weeks. later on when the devices gets less populair there will be some favorites.
For know I suggest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559776
And then the HERO rom. Not the light & sexy. It's very fast en it's stable. Also, it looks nice
The general rule I follow is:
Try them all.
But I will start with the threads that have the most posts on. Those are likely to be the most popular ones. I will spend a day with each and then pick the one I liked best.
Generally it depends on what you want. Some ROMs come packed with useful apps and stuff. Some come with mountains of useless crap. Some come with nothing.
Depends how much time you have to play with them.
only problem with "trying them all" is im not familiar or totally comfortable with rom flashing, as i dont want to 'brick' my phone.
If you have HardSPL and are just flashing regular ROMs, it is nearly impossible to truly brick your device. I've flashed well over 50 times on my trusty Kaiser, and haven't ever bricked it. So don't worry about that, flash away.
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The general rule I follow is:
Try them all.
But I will start with the threads that have the most posts on. Those are likely to be the most popular ones. I will spend a day with each and then pick the one I liked best.
Generally it depends on what you want. Some ROMs come packed with useful apps and stuff. Some come with mountains of useless crap. Some come with nothing.
Depends how much time you have to play with them.
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That is the best recommendation!!
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
If you have HardSPL and are just flashing regular ROMs, it is nearly impossible to truly brick your device. I've flashed well over 50 times on my trusty Kaiser, and haven't ever bricked it. So don't worry about that, flash away.
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Same here, re flashed so many times and never bricked!
Go and test them all!!
also depends what you're looking for in a different rom, speed? tf3d 2.5, a particular build of winmo? that will help you decide.
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The general rule I follow is:
Try them all.
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Ahm, no. General rule is: If your device is working and you need it to work, stay away from them all
All the ROMs here are result of hard work of pretty smart guys - some are working better than others and some are right from the beginning just thought to be 'experimental' ROMs. But I haven't seen a single one that works without any flaws.
I decided to play with ROMs on my older phones I don't use on a daily base anymore. My #1 phone stays as it is.
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Ahm, no. General rule is: If your device is working and you need it to work, stay away from them all
All the ROMs here are result of hard work of pretty smart guys - some are working better than others and some are right from the beginning just thought to be 'experimental' ROMs. But I haven't seen a single one that works without any flaws.
I decided to play with ROMs on my older phones I don't use on a daily base anymore. My #1 phone stays as it is.
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I usually agree, most roms have major issues.......... That said im on A.Z.T.O.R rom...... The only problem is a mms issue that easily fixed with adding a url in the settings........ i
not taking anything away from the others but this roms almost perfect... possibly perfect
I've been on some other forums wondering what phone to buy, and it seems the tilt2 is the best for me. That being said, I'm not totally sold on it. For you people who've had it long enough, would you recommend it? I'm committed to learning about the best ROM to install over it, so I'm going to try to get away from as many freezes as possible. Of course, I was recommended to *this* wonderful site!
Does anyone have a good place to start for learning on here? There's a freakton of information on here, and I have no problem reading through lots of info, but I don't know where to start!
I would be much appreciative. Thanks!
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Yes!
Go and get it!!
Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device to this date!
I´m very happy with mine
This is my 3rd HTC device. With my big fingers, a hardware keyboard is a MUST. The Tilt had a good keyboard, the Fuze had a better keyboard, the Tilt2 has the best keyboard for someone like me. And now that I have to have bifocal glasses , the larger screen is MUCH appreciated.
I say get it as well. I had the Fuze, AT&T's version of the original Touch Pro, for a week and hated it. I just got a Tilt 2 and it's a much better device. I've been using it for a few days and haven't noticed any freezing or bad lag. I've loaded a few programs and done a few registry tweaks and so far I've been very happy with the results. Slingplayer Mobile looks great on this device and I get GPS locks in seconds in both Google Maps and Bing Mobile. The touch screen is very responsive and TouchFlo 3D has really improved in a year. I noticed some complaints about the Widcomm Bluetooth stack but the phone paired right away with my Motorola headset and the handsfree system in my Acura RL and has worked flawlessly with both.
I plan on deleting as many of the stock bloatware programs as I can to free up some memory, but so far the stock AT&T ROM has been fine. The keyboard is awesome - I don't mind having the symbols in the top row as I seem to use them more when typing emails. This is a really nice device.
So what's the favorite ROM around here? Might be a week (or a few evne) before I pick this up, and I want to make sure I have my technology down so I don't keep on flashing.
I have a Motorola Q9h at the moment.... it's what got me hooked on windows mobile. I couldn't believe that I could actually edit the registry! So yeah, I'm all about tweaks, but I remember my first couple weeks and I was all over the place trying to find all the tweaks I needed.
I'm hoping to go into this next move prepared.
My advice is this - make sure you try the phone out first. Try to have a conversation in a moderately noisy environment and see if you can hear the other person, even with the volume on full.
Loud enough for you? If so, then get the phone. Everything else about it is awesome.
If not loud enough, forget it, find a different phone made by a company who doesn't assume all their customers have bionic ears. It will drive you crazy and frustrate you every phone call, and there is no fix.
The best rom for me which is closest to stock as possible is here. I currently have been running for about a month and this is stable and great. Very close to the ATT stock rom.
It's a terrific phone, I highly recommend it. The keyboard is the best I've ever used, the screen is gorgeous, and the build quality is fantastic. If you're looking to start somewhere, I recommend the following links: XDA-Developers Wiki article on the Rhodium and Flashing your first Rhodium ROM. Of all the places to start, those are probably best. The stickies at the top of the forums are also good to read, as they often contain important information.
Also, as many will tell you, there is no best ROM. I personally like EnergyROM Leo for my purposes, but other ROMs may work best for what you prefer to do with your Rhodium. I would recommend looking in peoples' signatures and seeing what ROMs people are using, or better yet, flash them all and see what works for you. Now that that's out of the way, welcome to XDA-Developers!
Perfect Dave!! Thanks a ton!
If I could rep you guys on these boards I would!
Phrozt said:
Perfect Dave!! Thanks a ton!
If I could rep you guys on these boards I would!
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DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
It's a terrific phone, I highly recommend it. The keyboard is the best I've ever used, the screen is gorgeous, and the build quality is fantastic. If you're looking to start somewhere, I recommend the following links: XDA-Developers Wiki article on the Rhodium and Flashing your first Rhodium ROM. Of all the places to start, those are probably best. The stickies at the top of the forums are also good to read, as they often contain important information.
Also, as many will tell you, there is no best ROM. I personally like EnergyROM Leo for my purposes, but other ROMs may work best for what you prefer to do with your Rhodium. I would recommend looking in peoples' signatures and seeing what ROMs people are using, or better yet, flash them all and see what works for you. Now that that's out of the way, welcome to XDA-Developers!
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Unless he's having specific issues or a WM veteran I don't see why you'd point him to how to flash a ROM first thing... Probably let him use the device out-of-box for a bit.
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Unless he's having specific issues or a WM veteran I don't see why you'd point him to how to flash a ROM first thing... Probably let him use the device out-of-box for a bit.
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The OP was interested in information concerning cooked ROMs, and where a good place to start would be. I figured that they'd want to know the process of installing one since they were inquiring about which one they should flash, and I thought that link would be a good place to start (when concerning ROMs). It's not like they have to flash one just because I linked there, and if they'd seen the instructions already there's no harm, so I thought I was being helpful by posting a useful related link. IMO there's nothing wrong with using a device out of the box (I did for ~1 year), but the OP requested more info on ROMs and I simply gave it to them.
I've had my Tilt 2, for 2 weeks.
And I LOVE IT !!!
And i'm already a flashing whore ..........
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Unless he's having specific issues or a WM veteran I don't see why you'd point him to how to flash a ROM first thing... Probably let him use the device out-of-box for a bit.
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Yeah, I've been using WM for 2 years now on my motorola q9h. The tweaking aspect is the reason I *want* to stay w/WM... and I was definitely looking for exactly what dave posted!
Also, as I indicated in a few posts, I want to know as much as I can before actually getting the phone so I can flash it, tweak it, set it up how I want it, and then not touch it so that I can keep a stable environment. I don't want to lose my messages and things...
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And i'm already a flashing whore ..........
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Let's leave your mom out of this
(I'm sorry, I have a chronic condition involving mom jokes)
well.... I just picked up the tilt 2 . it's pretty cool so far but I do notice all the lag people have been talking about... will prolly just take some getting used to.
My advice would be to try and get the out-of-the-box system working, install a few apps / shells / tweaks, figure out what's important to you and then flash. Pretty much any stock rom will be lag-free or lag-minimal. There's a lot of good ROMs / chefs out there. Flashing several will definitely whet your appetite.
~Eric
After owning this thing for awhile.. good LORD does it freeze up a lot :/. I mean, I get used to it and "deal" with it, but it becomes painfull noticeable when my friend has his droid out.
Maybe it's time to start looking into those homebrews for better efficiency, heh.
Phrozt said:
After owning this thing for awhile.. good LORD does it freeze up a lot :/. I mean, I get used to it and "deal" with it, but it becomes painfull noticeable when my friend has his droid out.
Maybe it's time to start looking into those homebrews for better efficiency, heh.
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I rarely reset my phone for freezing issues, especially on sense 2.1 ROMs. Sense 2.5 ROMs maybe once a week at most. At the end of the day to get a phone that more closely functions how you want it to, a custom ROM is the way to go.
I will say the most stable release I ever used was the stock VZW 6.1 TF3D 2.0. I could run that thing for weeks and still idle at 49%.
Phrozt said:
After owning this thing for awhile.. good LORD does it freeze up a lot :/. I mean, I get used to it and "deal" with it, but it becomes painfull noticeable when my friend has his droid out.
Maybe it's time to start looking into those homebrews for better efficiency, heh.
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There's a couple of things that should be done with all new TP2's to help reduce memory hogging and help performance in general:
First, run the first two cabs below. One switches off push internet for a big resource savings. The other one switches on dynamic memory allocation, which does a much better job of freeing up memory when apps aren't using it.
Next, run the Advanced Config cab below...it's a utility that gives you access to all sorts of deeper-level settings in the phone. When you run it, navigate to the "power management" section, and make the first 7 entries there set to "enabled (advised)"
Do a soft-reset after these, and you should see a significant reduction in memory use and lock-ups.
Lastly, use the Crud Scraper attached below...copy it to your SD card and just run the .exe from there (not your PC). It allows you to uninstall a fair amount of the bloat AT&T was generous enough to include on the phone
Some pretty good advice in this thread for new users. I've been playing with WM since well before it was WM and I've had an overwhelmingly positive experience with it, that is until i moved from the kaiser to the tilt2. I was ready to chunk it and get something else but decided to flash a few roms first. Not expecting much i was surprised by the significant performance improvements and overall appeal the device gained over the stock At&t rom.
My advice, I woudl only try "fixing" the issues with teh stock rom if you are absolutley stuck with it. if you are not stuck using the AT&T rom for some reason flash one, there are several good ones out there and all of them seem to be an improvement over the At&t rom in terms of stability and performance.