OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
Hi,
All I do on my spv m3100 is download the version that i want (schapps, pdaviet etc), connect my spv to the pc and sync it (backing up any crucial data) and then double click the ruu wrapper - the program then asks you if you want to auto detect which version of bootloader you want to use which on mine it is usually hard spl, then the program takes over and hey prsto 5 minutes later I'm loading my programs back onto my newly flashed spv ! I have found that this is the best way for me - the mods will be able to give more info but I took the plunge 20 months ago and must have flashed my device with a new rom about once a week!
Take Care,
Seriously
I'm seriously wondering if they can incorporate a noob rule called the don't open new threads without searching RULE . that would seriously help!
revrob said:
OK, so I can't load hardspl v7 into my spv m3100, but I do now know that the bootloader is spl 1.40 olipro.
Is this OK to load WM6, and do I need to watch for CID clashes.
Am I able to use the official HTC wm6 rom, or do I need to use a customised version?
I'd appreciate some guidance, as I don't want to brick my machine!
I am now using activesync 4.5 on a windows pc.
Many thanks,
Robert
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Hey bro, if you have the oli pro spl on your device then loading a origenal rom with spl integrated is not a good idea. Look for the official wm6 rom only without spl, radio or extended. Here is a link to the official rom without radio, spl or extended. http://rapidshare.com/files/63200881/RUU_signed.nbh You will also need the ruuwrapper.exe file to install this rom on your hermes wich you can find in any custom rom here on xda under the hermes thread. Oh dont mind these neigh sayers bashing the noobs, some ppl here are still nice enough to help you and dont think they are the flashing gods.
@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
It's sounds like you've used Pof's unlocker, is that why you have HardSPL 1.40?
There should be no reason why you can't update it to HardSPL 2.10. I can't remember if 1.40 has the same features when it doesn't allow itself to be overwritten (and can't be arsed to check as that's your job.
It's as Scousemartin states plus you need to do a little more reading but if you want to minimise bricking your phone use a MicrsoSD card, you should be fine doing it that way and 1.40 but try to install 2.10.
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@joshkoss if you hate the fact he is asking something that has been asked a million times, why bother posting just to moan? Is that not just adding to the spam of the board.
@revrob Why exactly can you not install hard splv7, have you cid unlocked your device first using this unlocker ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a.zip
If you havent you wont be able to install hardspl or anything else
extract and run the program and then attempt to install hardspl v7. If you are successful then you will be able to install any other rom. Even an official rom with the minimum amount of risk
Without Hardspl installed you can only install your providers rom e.g. Oranges' rom update. With Hardspl installed you can install any hermes rom regardless of what version of hermes it was designed for
Hope that helps
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Point accepted!! Sorry, it just peeves me off.. Guess i need to find some other way to vent my frustrations then adding to the frustrations of others..
I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
You can flash hard spl via the sd card method. Its posted on the "hard SPL or how not to brick your Hermes" thread. Page 116. All links to softwares needed as well as instructions there.
Cheers...
You can also use SSPL which also allows you to flash anything. You just execute from SD card.
NP Revrob, no angst here with anyone. I was replying to what was said but not really at the person who made the comment but more just in general really. It can be frustrating for both senior members and newbies alike. I just like to always get folks working/talking with a positive aspect to things as there is more than enough things to bring us down in this day and age.
"it's all good"
Dude
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I'm sorry JoshKoss but I have to agree with Scousemartin, while I may be a newbie here I do spend alot of time on other forums and happen to be a moderator on some. I must say it does erk me a little when I see negative posts like that. We were all newbies with silly questions at some point and IMHO I think the only silly question is the one that people don't ask.
At the very least you could be more positive in your approach by suggesting use of the search feature and suggesting a couple of search links. Often a search feature wont find the answer your after if you don't know exactly what to look for in the first place. Also I think alot of people when it comes to flashing are affraid of bricking their device and a little bit of positive help is all they need or just a little push in the right direction.
I must say though in some cases I agree that sometimes the questions may be a little too simple and there is a billion threads already present on the topic so it may get frustrating. If you really feel it's been said too much and posted to death may I suggest two things.
1. Simply just point them to a current thread on the topic and say Howdy or Welcome while your at it. Make folks welcome you never know what they too might have to sahre later on down the track. Give them too many negitives straight off and they will prolly just leave this forum. This is currently a fantastic forum but it is only so because of the members in it !
2. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything". If you feel it's a pointless thread why vailidate it with a comment even, just move on and give it no more thought.
I hope I haven't upset you or anyone else for that matter with my opinion as it's only mine. But I feel the world in general spends too much time on negative, I try to always look for a way to make any input I give to be positive. What goes round, comes round, be nice, stay happy and always remember it's more fun to make love than it is to make war.
geez what a load of dribble from a newbie ROLF..
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Dude, I agree with you totally! don't worry about it, I really appreciate your words.. I've had a rough couple days and totally took it out on a noob! Sorry and Peace out man!
revrob said:
Apologies for the angst I caused some people last night.
I know how it feels, as I post on other forums in totally unrelated areas - and sometimes newbie questions can frustrate .......
However, I did manage to flash Schaps 4.31 WM6 onto my spv m3100, and all seems to be OK - much better than WM5
I still haven't got HardSPL 7 onto the machine yet, but I will try again. I had followed MrVanx's guide to the letter, but some people report success if they tick a box which he doesn't mention - so I'll try that later on today.
Many thanks,
Robert
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It aint you that caused it man, I'm the harborer of frustrations don't worry about it, you asked a valid question and I'm the one that rained on the parade!! Take it easy and good luck
And on your question, I've had good luck with flashing from SD card, Check the wiki in my first link for flashing from your SD card and give it a go!
Joshkoss,
hey no biggie and certainly no need for sorries either, like I said it wasn't really intended to be directed at you personally just was rasing a point of my own opinion. On the other hand I'm sorry to hear things haven't been good for you. I do hope that whatever is giving or gave you a rough time is either sorted out or start to improve for you as quick as possible. Cheer up and don't let things bring you down my friend, life is to be lived and enjoyed. lol I must sound so weird but hey I like to wish everyone well. SMILE
Don't ask me how or why, but I downloaded HardSPL v7 from a different mirror to the one I had been using previously (and I'm sorry I can't remember which one - I've been doing much downloading of files yesterday and today!), and flashed it on Windows XP, and it worked!!! - so that is now safely installed as well.
Now to upgrade the Radio ROM .......
Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Revrob, be careful when doing this, would REALLY suggest using the sd card method as there is less chance of little "accidents". The radio rom is the part of the Hermes MOST LIKELY TO BRICK IT... Any interruptions can corrupt the memory area making it impossible to reflash. You WILL have a PERMANENT BRICK (OS will work but no Phone functionality so technically a brick). In this case, less flashing=longer life..
Just a word of caution.
Also, the radio rom doesn't need to be upgraded to the latest to be best. It seems to be the carrier that determines what is the best for them and you could find that you loose reception, have MAJOR battery drain or both...
Try to find out what radio your carrier is using and stick with it...
Cheers....
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Excellent advice... which is why I strongly recommend always using a MicroSD card. I have seen too many people brick there phones and not have HardSPL on either. With the MicroSD card it's virtually impossible to cause a "break" in the upgrade procedure, whereas using USB/Activesynce it is all too easy to cause or have one.
Even if you do have HardSPL it is a much faster process than using the USB cable and saves you the hassle of finding out how to unbrick your phone with HardSPL installed on it.
When it happens bricking your phone is the worst feeling in the world, but thankfully it's becoming less and less common!
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Hi all,
I have a question and I know people will flame but I really don't have enough time to research like I always do before I make my first post on a message board.
In this case though, I just bought a dopod 838 Pro/ Herm 100 and I will be starting a new job and will be using this phone. I have it flashed for cingular with the wm5 rom from this site and it works great!
My question is, I would like to run wm6 on this phone. Like I said I just don't really have much time to search the site and find out more about this. All I need to know is if upgrading to wm6 on this phone can be done yet using it with cingular and if it can, is it worth it?
I did find the page that has all the flashing roms on it for wm6 but I haven't had the time to figure out what each one is.
I hate to be the one to drop the noob question but because of starting my new job I need to flash it soon if I'm going to do it at all and that doesn't leave me with much time to search the boards and really read up on this.
Thanks for your help!
Ben
as you are refusing to take the time to read the f*cking wiki, you should NOT flash your device. you will brick it, then come here crying for help (or come crying for help on some other easily answered question).
until you have the time to RTFW and do the research, just keep the stock rom.
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as you are refusing to take the time to read the f*cking wiki, you should NOT flash your device. you will brick it, then come here crying for help (or come crying for help on some other easily answered question).
until you have the time to RTFW and do the research, just keep the stock rom.
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I am reading around as much as I can. I just though I'd ask the quick question for as much help as I can get. thanks for the help...
Well, it seems you have answered your own question. You don't have time to flash your phone. Reading, research and then flashing will result in success, anything else will result in a brick. From your post it appears you know how to navigate this site so I won't provide the basic links. When you have time, do your research and then flash you phone, it will be worth it.
WM6 is absolutely worth it. The latest builds from each chef are in the Wiki. I use a lvsw derivative on a TyTn and an 8525 and I couldn't even imagine going back to WM5...
That being said, be sure to flash the radio shown in my sig as it seems to work the best on Cingular networks.
Welcome to XDA-Developers btw
JasenR said:
Well, it seems you have answered your own question. You don't have time to flash your phone. Reading, research and then flashing will result in success, anything else will result in a brick. From your post it appears you know how to navigate this site so I won't provide the basic links. When you have time, do your research and then flash you phone, it will be worth it.
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haha, I guess what I'm trying to ask is if wm6 is buggy or even worth it on the phone I have. If it's worth it then I will dig in and try to know enough by the weekend when I'll have time to sit down and try it.
Hmmmm.
Yes you can do the Cingular thing, a couple of roms have Cingular versions, such as Custels v2.5.
I would install Hard-SPL-V7 before you install anything else since it will protect your phone from a lot of possible problems.
It may also be worth upgrading to Radio rom version 1.38 or 1.40, 1.41. seems to be variable in its effectiveness for different folks.
Is it worth it? Yes, speed and stability are much greater, but only if you are prepared to read up and fix issues as they arrive. These roms dont come with a guarantee, and whilst the main ones I have tried (Custel, LVSW and Black) have been stable for me they have had quirks (bluetooth, wifi, etc) for other people that require you to go and seek answers if you encounter them.
If your Dopod is unstable and crashes regularly on its current rom then its probably worth your while, if you need it for your job and its already stable then I would think carefully about it.
By the way, great video series.
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WM6 is absolutely worth it. The latest builds from each chef are in the Wiki. I use a lvsw derivative on a TyTn and an 8525 and I couldn't even imagine going back to WM5...
That being said, be sure to flash the radio shown in my sig as it seems to work the best on Cingular networks.
Welcome to XDA-Developers btw
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cool, that's what I needed to know. I will now dig into the boards and learn all there is to know before flashing my phone.
thanks!
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haha, I guess what I'm trying to ask is if wm6 is buggy or even worth it on the phone I have. If it's worth it then I will dig in and try to know enough by the weekend when I'll have time to sit down and try it.
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Oh, it is absolutely a worthwhile upgrade. Much better than WM5, and the radio that Slueth mentioned is flawless.
HAHAHA gotta love the name " Ben Dover" hahaha. In my famous saying. " Hey you, your an idiot".
All the cool kids are doing it...
Unless you work 24 hours a day every day and NEVER have any free time, then you DO have time to read-up on this stuff and that bull**** excuse you provided is worthless. You don't have to do this before you start your job. What the hell is that? You can flash it at anytime when you have it, and once you'
ve read enough about what you're doing you'll know it takes less than a hour to get it all flashed and apps re-installed. Christ. Atleast come here with a better excuse than you don't have time. I'm sorry. i don't have time to help you any further.
Can someone close or delete this crap. *sigh*
Every goddamn day the same questions from lazy individuals that want everything handed to them.
He asked a valid question. The simple answer "yes, it's worthwhile" would've sufficed. Give it a break or I start handing out bans. I'm really getting sick of this.
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He asked a valid question. The simple answer "yes, it's worthwhile" would've sufficed. Give it a break or I start handing out bans. I'm really getting sick of this.
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How is that a valid question hiden behind the fact that he used BS about not having time to read? You're getting sick of this; how about all of us that have to see the same threads day in and day out from people too lazy to read for a little? There was a thread with this same question a day ago!
How about a "yes", then lock the thread. Thread answered. He has time to post a thread, but none to read the forum?
He's researching now no doubt. It took me 30 secs to post the answer. Show me another thread with this same question plz....
seriously the aggression is unnecessary. lets all try to keep it to the witty one-liners and simple sarcasm
My answer: yes it is worth it. I use my 8525 for work all the time with wm6. However, the official rom will be out soon, and if you dont want to deal with a potential brick you might wanna hold off for that.
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He's researching now no doubt. It took me 30 secs to post the answer. Show me another thread with this same question plz....
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Read the forum like I did! lol
Really, it's not like anyones mad, it's just annoying. No one should rush into flashing, and reading this forum for a few weeks before I did ANYTHING helped keep me from posting threads like this. I saw what others said about the different ROMs. I read the guide and the wiki, then after a long thought over whether or not to attempt my first flash, I did so w/o any problems. i attribute that to taking my time to read. Sometimes the forum needs a little tough-love to get people set on the right path.
It just bothered me that he stated he didn't have time to read the forum because of work. I'm still perplexed over that one. Do they keep the phones at work? If it's not his then he shouldn't flash it anyway. If it is his, then how would "work" interfere with him taking his own personal time to flash his device? Doesn't make sense.
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Read the forum like I did! lol
Really, it's not like anyones mad, it's just annoying. No one should rush into flashing, and reading this forum for a few weeks before I did ANYTHING helped keep me from posting threads like this. I saw what others said about the different ROMs. I read the guide and the wiki, then after a long thought over whether or not to attempt my first flash, I did so w/o any problems. i attribute that to taking my time to read. Sometimes the forum needs a little tough-love to get people set on the right path.
It just bothered me that he stated he didn't have time to read the forum because of work. I'm still perplexed over that one. Do they keep the phones at work? If it's not his then he shouldn't flash it anyway. If it is his, then how would "work" interfere with him taking his own personal time to flash his device? Doesn't make sense.
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And his question was answered that it is a worthwhile upgrade and that he needed to do his reading first. He thanked the responders for the replies and went to go do the research. Everyone was happy. Why explode after the fact?
Thread closed then. I've got some post research to do on ronfin44.... Hopefully you don't make a living on this forum doing newbie bashing.
edit: 24 hour ban imposed. A quick search will reveal the reason.
Ok well I stumbled upon this forum in search of a way to fix my 8525. My problem was that the media player on my phone wont recognize the memory card. I upgraded from the Cingular wireless operating system to the AT&T version. I see that you guys have a WM6 version and hopefully that would solve my problem along with the bugs in WM5.
I had no idea I would be so overwhelmed by technology. I really hope this means Im just out of the loop and not that Im getting old.
I downloaded the file from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317952
but I dont have a program to decompress it. So I downloaded winrar from download.com and now windows still says it doesnt know what program it is and wont open it.
Can some one please give me a step by step on how to install WM6 for my Cingular 8525. Also, which version should I use? There seems to be many different versions up and they all have their own thread. As long as it will play my mp3s and have support for a 2 or 4gb micro sd
I swear Im really not retarded but I just dont have time to research all this myself.
Thank you so much for your help!
Jim
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I really hope this means Im just out of the loop and not that Im getting old.
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How old are you
Mrvanx guides is what you want do a quick search and you'll find it.
yeah, we don't have time to SEARCH FOR IT FOR YOU either. Sometimes you have to sacrifice.. lol .. that's funny 'I dont have time .. ' lol .. well .. MAKE time or brick your phone.
if you don't have time to read up, then you shouldnt upgrade your phone. since you definately need to read up and do research, start with the wiki.
-Nstefanelli-
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How old are you
Mrvanx guides is what you want do a quick search and you'll find it.
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Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
By atleast telling me to search for Mrvanx guides I found them and I got it done. I now have Black Satin on my phone. Im not all that happy with the media player and the phone will randomly freeze up using Black Satin. Is there a better OS to use? I also really dont like that it doesnt have voice dial.
Jim
random freeze could be due to application you've installed has issues with WM6. just by wm6 black satin itself, does your phone freeze too?
The best place for you to start is the places below my signature. The WIKI first, since you've a lot a learning to do. Then Mr. Vanx Upgrade Guides; follow the directions carefully, don't take any shortcuts and you'll be flashing ROMs like an expert in no time. If you follow any of these forums for long you'll also see a great deal of frustration from folks who spend a great deal of time answering new threads on old questions that are already answered in the WIKI and just need to be searched (hence, your previous replies....)
Best wishes
Thank you for your help.
I used Mr Vanx upgrade guide to get Black Satin installed. I will read the Hermes WIKI and Wiktionary next time I have a few hours to kill.
The freezing seems to have stoped after a few soft resets but I am really not happy with the Media manager. My main motivation for doing all this was because I really wanted a stellar media player. On my WM5 version media player it stoped regonizing my memory card and the only way I could play music was to go through file explorer and play them each individually. Even the media player in WM6 wont recognize my card. Its a brand new card. grrrrr
I have gotten countless error messages. It will also just randomly stop playing. You name it!
"The titles associated with this playlist no longer exsist" - a new message I just got
its just so fustrating
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Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
By atleast telling me to search for Mrvanx guides I found them and I got it done. I now have Black Satin on my phone. Im not all that happy with the media player and the phone will randomly freeze up using Black Satin. Is there a better OS to use? I also really dont like that it doesnt have voice dial.
Jim
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you know, labeling us unhelpful aint gonna motivate us.
flash schap's 3.54c.
.....I swear Im really not retarded but I just dont have time to research all this myself.....
uhhhmm am i still half asleep or am i really reading this right? want us to hold your hand while you search through the forums? i know i was in the same situation as you at least a month ago. but dont remember sounding demanding as you. your royal highness..
...Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
we will leave this for your MOM to do for you...
cant believe this.. dont think i feel good today..
hey steve! looks like youre in a roll today! last time i checked you had 76 posts now your at 100...
OP should be thankful for your kind help.......
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asking how old OP is, is really a valid question...
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.....I swear Im really not retarded but I just dont have time to research all this myself.....
uhhhmm am i still half asleep or am i really reading this right? want us to hold your hand while you search through the forums? i know i was in the same situation as you at least a month ago. but dont remember sounding demanding as you. your royal highness..
...Thank you for your help. telling me what to search for was a huge help. I had no idea where to start. Im surprised how unhelpful people on this forum are to new guys trying to figure it out. They all say to search but dont give any direction.
we will leave this for your MOM to do for you...
cant believe this.. dont think i feel good today..
hey steve! looks like youre in a roll today! last time i checked you had 76 posts now your at 100...
OP should be thankful for your kind help.......
p.s.
asking how old OP is, is really a valid question...
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Wow Thats awesome.
Your right I really dont have time to be messing with all this. Not that I need to validate myself to you but I have a full time job that occupies most of my time but when Im not there Im at my property management company overseeing my employees and making sure their working.
Unfortunetly this turned out to be way more complex than I originally thought. But as they say, if you want it done right.....
wpbear helped by telling me to do a search for Mr vanx guides. How would I have otherwise know wno the hell Mr Vanx was and why would I have known he had guides. So thank you wpbear ps Im 25
Thank you nstefanelli for telling me to look up Wiki and thank you stevebonning for the links.
And bapski, Hows this for demanding......... I demand for you to eat my ass!
Oh and another error message I keep getting is
"Memory critically low"
"You must select one task to close"
Audio Manager
Active Sync
These are the only two programs I have open and I have plenty of memory
You dont have to answer me. Ill do the research. I just thought Id post what I saw.
You must flash HARD SPL v7 and flash new rom.
read this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322674
Oszi said:
You must flash HARD SPL v7 and flash new rom.
read this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322674
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Ok Ill try that later on.
Thanks
Bapski;
Was killing some time here at the hospital. My colleagues were really getting me frustrated, so I thought i'd spend some time here at the forum.....don't know it that was a wise decision........
I will say however, that I spent the first several weeks on this forum just reading threads and the WIKI. I was terrified to post, fearful of a flame. What I did learn during that time of observation and reading is that not too many people do it, and I saw how many of the mods got (and continue to get) frustrated at the lack of willingness of new members to take the info that is here in the forum and help themselves. I've just passed 100 posts but I don't think any of them was a request for help. Don't need much help as long as I can read....
Where are you loading your programs too? The mem card or the device itself? I have Satin and no lock up issues but I think the low memory is what is locking your device up. Also you can check Black sating website and he has a file cab with Cybertron Voice dial and also for Cybertron Voice command.
Jimbo69NY;
One thing for sure is that you will need a good deal of time when it comes to upgrading, flashing, etc. Not just the learning process, but the inevitable bugs and stumbles along the way. Especially at the beginning you need to make sure everything is done right (The Upgrade Guides help here as well as having Hard SpL installed). But this process does take time and if you don't have the time to spend, you're risking making your phone a brick. Once you get going it's a lot of fun. I'm flashing more often now than that homeless guy on the corner!
Enjoy!
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Wow Thats awesome.
Your right I really dont have time to be messing with all this. Not that I need to validate myself to you but I have a full time job that occupies most of my time but when Im not there Im at my property management company overseeing my employees and making sure their working.
Unfortunetly this turned out to be way more complex than I originally thought. But as they say, if you want it done right.....
wpbear helped by telling me to do a search for Mr vanx guides. How would I have otherwise know wno the hell Mr Vanx was and why would I have known he had guides. So thank you wpbear ps Im 25
Thank you nstefanelli for telling me to look up Wiki and thank you stevebonning for the links.
And bapski, Hows this for demanding......... I demand for you to eat my ass!
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all if not most of us here have full time jobs. so that again is a lame excuse.
sure like does not behave a 25 year old.. and you with employees? yeah right.. good luck to your company...
good riddance to your errors mate.. everything's in the wiki...
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Bapski;
I will say however, that I spent the first several weeks on this forum just reading threads and the WIKI. I was terrified to post, fearful of a flame. What I did learn during that time of observation and reading is that not too many people do it, and I saw how many of the mods got (and continue to get) frustrated at the lack of willingness of new members to take the info that is here in the forum and help themselves.
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Ditto to that
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same here.. too bad not to many new people do that. and its a shame how the same people come out to be the arrogant and cocky ones when they are reminded to also help themselves first by doing a simple research. heck its just like doing your homework. if you've done a homework in your lifetime i think youd be able to figure out doing a search and their will be less useless time and space in here...
I recently purchased an 8525 and stumbled on to this fantastic site.
It's like a kid in a candy store. Unfortunately I have no idea the language you speak but want to learn where can I get a crash course on all this?
I am stunned by the level of features that you all apparently have and I want them too. So if someone could guide me to kindergarten class it would be appreciated.
dewcrewboosman said:
I recently purchased an 8525 and stumbled on to this fantastic site.
It's like a kid in a candy store. Unfortunately I have no idea the language you speak but want to learn where can I get a crash course on all this?
I am stunned by the level of features that you all apparently have and I want them too. So if someone could guide me to kindergarten class it would be appreciated.
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before you get flammed - I'd suggest looking through a few posts to get an idea what you want to do, and learn the structure of what you have to work with.
Options:
Install customizations on your currently installed operating system
Reflash to a custom OS
Build your own custom OS
Upgrade to a newer Radio
Install custom first and second splash screens
But if you do any flashing - read the Wiki and INSTALL HARDSPL FIRST!!!!
dewcrewboosman said:
I recently purchased an 8525 and stumbled on to this fantastic site.
It's like a kid in a candy store. Unfortunately I have no idea the language you speak but want to learn where can I get a crash course on all this?
I am stunned by the level of features that you all apparently have and I want them too. So if someone could guide me to kindergarten class it would be appreciated.
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I agree with mattk_r look around before you start asking questions you have found the right section so your on the right path. Your 8525 is a Hearms model made by HTC. if your on the OS it shipped with then your using WM5 A lot of the people around here have had 20 versions of WM6 flashed to their units. So before you try to flash READ,READ, READ everything you need to know is in "XDA-Wiki" and as stated above, before you try anything make sure you "hard spl" your device ,don't ask me what that is go to Wiki and find out everything you need to know is there. If you don't then you are going to find out what the term "Brick" means and you don't want to no that.Good luck and welcome to the club
read read read. There's always new roms coming out. Watch one and follow it along and see how bugs get worked out. I read and watched for about a month before i finally tried one.
When you do actually decide to flash a new ROM, you should definately check out Mr. Vanx's site. His walk-throughs are top-notch.
Before you do anything ake sure you have Hard SPL on your device. You'll find it in the Hermes Upgrading forum. After that you should be good to play. I spent a few months reading different threads just to see what everyone was talking about. It did me a world of good because I knew the terms and roughly what to do.
Hi...also, check out the well done new member intro (by stevebonning) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748
Thanks for being gentle on me. I will read, read, read as suggested.
Again all of you guys and gals are freakin amazing as I read thru these I am impressed by your creativity and ingenuity to work around programs.
Simple question I want all opinions, I just got my 2nd 8525, and this time I am gonna do it RIGHT!! (last 1 i had I was super n00b and kiled it within 48hrs I cried for a week) Anyways I just want the simplest answer or opinion I want my 8525 to last forever. SO I will flash it to the BEST WM6 ROM once and never again will I change it.
SO I am looking for just the BEST GENERAL OVERALL WM6 ROM, I am just gonna be using it as phone and only use the WiFI to connect to the NET, so the ROM I am looking for needs to be STABLE and needs to NOT ruin me or my 8525, I have been reading everyones SIGs to see what ROMs ya'll use, but I just WANT the Opinions of the regulars here
WHAT Windows Mobile 6 ROM should I upgrade to?? I will take ALL suggestions PLEASE help me, I dont wanna kill my 8525 again, I just want to flash it and leave it at that!!
THANK YOU EVERYONE
P.S I'm not a complete n00b if u read the whole thread you'll see I do my homework
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
XtreMe_G said:
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
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doubt he understands... =)
follow this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
and get Farias/Dr Puttinghams R32
enjoy ..
Remember follow the steps
HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro)
You will find it and visit
wiki.xda-developers.com
Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework, I have read the wiki over and over, and I already have DONE the HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro).
Once you've got HardSPL on, it's up to you really. Some are good and some are...flaky, to be polite.
I would start with the official one from your carrier and use that for a day or two so you have a good, hopefully stable, benchmark to measure the competition up against.
Bang all your apps on it and see how it runs then try the same thing on the cooked ones.
Smiffy.
I Phrased my Subject of the Thread and my actual question WRONG, I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want, be I want the opinions of you guys, the ones that call me a n00b, I value your opinion, I did my homework, I just want to flash my 8525 ONCE to a WM6 ROM that will last me the life of the phone. Heres what I like 1. theme skins 2. stability 3. good wifi 4. and I guess I want no bloatware so it will be a FAST ROM
So basically I just want to know what you guys (the experts) can suggest to me. Just want 1 ROM that will enable me to use my 8525 to the best of its capabilities!!
thank you
nicknowsky
i have used the offical ROM on my last 8525, and thats the one that got me i n troube and killed my 1st 8525
if u read the post above I gave a description of what i am looking for, or you know what I would like to know What The Most Popular WM6 ROM Is?? (no 6.1)
this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework
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I wasn't particularly mentioning you, just noobs in general. Not offence intended
As for a particular ROM. As you mentioned
I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want
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its hard to pick a ROM for you. Generally you can't go wrong with Farias/Dr Puttinghams/schaps to name a few. As for applications, be careful not to overload your phone with .cab's as this will slow it down.
There are a number of ROM's out there which are stripped of applications and built more for speed (though right now I'm having a complete blond moment and can't remeber one of them....doh!!!), and from there you can add to your own personal preferences.
Hey SPARTAN, I noticed u are using WM6.1, but before that what ROM did you use, and better yet what was the ROM that you used the absolute LONGEST??? or what is your personal favorite??
I'm a bit of a ROM freak, as I never keep the same ROM for any real length of time. Think I've used pretty much everything with little tweaks here and there.
Mostly used Schaps, as he tends to provide very stable ROM’s and eagerly awaiting Schaps 6.1 full version, but currently using Faria-R32 / Dr Puttingham WM6.1
Well I am close to going thru with the ROM flash, I just did my weekly REINSTALL of my operating system (been using XP lately) and I just installed the necessary drivers and programs to keep my computer from messing up or having ANY sort of error while the flash process is going on, just the very basics installed, thats really what the cause of death was for my first AT&T 8525(HERMES100) I got sloppy and was then a n00b, did a real n00bish thing and KILLED my 1st 8525. The funny thing with that was I had it for only 48hrs, and I cried for a week after. I still have it, might send it to HTC USA for repair.
But getting back to the todays upgrade, I am still in the process of deciding what ROM I will install, so I gotta ask are there ANY last recommendations on which WM6 ROM I should use?? I just wanna hear any and all last opinions
1st : Shamanix Ultimate v2 Final and 2nd : Kinokin WM6 Final.
I'm valuing ALL opinions
I know, I know this getting annoying and I keep asking dumb questions but I wanna decide, so here is the question
Which is better and/or more stable Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 or 4.01???
and how good is Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31 cause I am almost leaning towards 4.31, but I like I have said before I want stability and something thats gonna keep my 8525 running longest and strongest
This is gonna be it NO more stupidity coming from ME, I just want last opinions on Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 - 4.01 and 4.31
and THANK YOU everyone who took the time to help me, I know members like me get annoying, but I do my homework, I just wanted a little help
THANKS
Opinions, eh? I'm opinionated AND drunk...
Here's mine: go with 6.0 instead of 6.1.
People experienced in dealing with little niggles and issues by altering registry entries or installing lots of small cabs get on fine with 6.1, depending on which ROM of course. If you're new to upgrading then the issues that have yet to ironed out of 6.1 in such as a way as to make it a simple 1-click-to-install-and-you're-done job will probably annoy you too much. Smiffy's advice was really good mate: start with a ROM you can rely on, which basically means your own carrier's. If they haven't produced a WM6 yet (mine, OrangeUK, haven't and probably won't as they do lag rather badly in that area) then go for the most basic, cut-down and reportedly stable 6.0.
After you've got used to using your carrier's mobile you'll notice when the phone's faster or not when using different things on a new ROM. Only move up to 6.1 when you're well-used to how your phone fares with 6.0. (I'm assuming you won't install any benchmarking software. Not calling you lazy as I don't either - I just judge the 'feel' of it.)
I heartily recommend using mattk_r's Pandora Naked 6.0 - it's stable as any ROM I've ever used, including official ROMs. Give me a minute, I'l fetch the link.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1731669
I use a ROM based on the kitchen with a lot of my own kit thrown in. But I didn't start out like that; I started out like you, needing a few pointers, doing a lot of reading and occasionally annoying the hell out of myself.
By the way, if you're not using an SDHC card (which I assume you're not from the sounds of things) do me a favour and stick a copy of the original carrier's ROM on your SD card after renaming it HERIMG.nbh. Should you do a ChunkyMonkey Special and temporarily brick your phone (I used to do it all the time mate) it's an easy out in many cases, even if you can't boot past your bootloader.
(But take the SD card out when you flash your ROM. Although that's good practice anyway, so just do it.. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917&highlight=ultimate
As you can see (if you checked!) Ultimate is based on Schaps 4.31 ROM and more refined.
I'd go for LVSW.
Seriously man, you're asking the impossible. If you've read the forum so throroughly as you've claimed, you'd know that once you start, you'll not stop. Each of the ROMs, whilst good in their own way, has some kind o prolems with it that will make you change it for something else.
For example - Schaps 4.31 - an excellent rom but you have to install a fix for button 5 plus a couple of other gripes. Nothing major but enough to make me eventually keep looking once something different comes along.
You're not going to find the "one" rom.
The only place you'll find the one is in the matrix. Flashing is like the red pill. You're free of restraint but it comes at a cost.
I know I am asking for a "DREAM" I really just wanted opinions of what would be a GOOD, solid WM6 ROM, cause I am gonna flash it ONCE to the ROM I pick and that s IT, not more flashing or trying out new ROMs and this or that.
Put it this way IF you all had to CHOOSE just 1 WM6 ROM to flash and the fate of the world was riding on your choice of ROM, it had to be stable and save humanity, What ROM would that be??
thats the kinda opinions I want to help me make my choice
I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
grant9908 said:
I've read about it everywhere but can't find an explanation of what it is or what is does. It's like everyone knows what it is so there's no need to explain it anymore lol.
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Have you done a search yet? There are a couple of sticky threads on hardspl and rom flashing at the top of the Rhodium Rom Development sub-forum. They tell you all you need to know.
Grant: read the sticky's and wiki at the ROM forum.....
Short answer, hard spl changes the bootloader on the phone thus "unlocking" it for other ROMs. Without hard spl, you can't flash other ROMs. Read the stickys and good luck.
I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
ROMS, etc.
Grant,
This site is full of very technical minds, who disassemble code to build updated operating systems and tweaks for their devices. It takes a while to sort through all the acronyms that are used. I've been reading on this site for several years, and I'm still lost most of the time!
Do a lot of reading before you try ANY of this stuff; or your new, very expensive pocket pc phone (or whatever you call yours?) becomes a very expensive paper-weight!
This is a great resource site, but you have to become fluent in the language before you can converse with these people. Good luck, and happy learning!
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I have a TP2 and I have no clue what "flashing ROMs" means. what would be the benefit of doing this? If it's cool and helpful I'm all aboard, I just don;t know what it's talking about. Are we talking about Game ROMs, or apps etc. etc. etc.
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Grant, start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Read through that about 3 times and it'll finally start making some sense.
Overall, many people are quite happy with the ROM (operating system) and programs that come with the phone and thus leave it the way it is. Others feel that it is quite to slow and bulky (uses too much memory with crapware that you don't ever use) and thus want to put a nicer looking, faster, smoother ROM on the phone. Also, this allows us to keep up to date with the newest ROMs as they are realeased.
Downsides: you've got to learn about flashing, you're ROM may be buggy since it's newer or it may be more stable if it's just a stock rom with crapware removed. Either way, to do any of this, you must first hard spl to allow the phone to take other ROMs. If you don't hard spl first, you phone will be mad at you and not wake up! Be warned that if you do this, you void your warranty (albeit there are ways to go back explained on the hard spl page) and you may become very very addicted and make posts on XDA froums on a holiday at 7 am in bed with your wife giving you dirty looks!
I've read everything 7 or more times lol and it did start to make sense =D after about 7 hours or reading last night I finally figured everything out, I think mike would be the best ROM to go with but I'm going to leave mine stock for now.
Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the begining, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal stregth, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combinations. Its fun.
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Welcome aboard Grant. I think the sentiment is pretty much same with most (except our all know elite who bring us most of these ...) of us. This site is very intimidating in the beginning, but quite addictive later on. I still do not post regularly but takes some time to read almost everyday. But I can tell you one thing, whatever it takes, once you have flashed a custom ROM from these great developers here you will never go back to stock. It changes everything, stability, speed, functionality customization etc. and the most common complain, signal strength, when you start playing with different ROM and RADIO combination. Its fun.
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Now that you say all this I have a good question for you! my TP2 is 400 speed and I want to start playing playstation games on it, would flashing it over make it run faster for this purpose? and what would be the best one to go to for this purpose (and I disabled TF3D as well )
Can you flash a ROM in powercuts?
I too have just about got what it means to Hardspl and Flash a ROM. I live in a remote part of India where there are at least 4 power cuts a day (usually when you need the pump for a shower or are downloading). What would happen in the (extremely probable) event of a power cut whilst installing a new ROM? Is it possible to download to a PC first then connect to the TP2 later. How long do you need power for? Many thanks.
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I too have just about got what it means to Hardspl and Flash a ROM. I live in a remote part of India where there are at least 4 power cuts a day (usually when you need the pump for a shower or are downloading). What would happen in the (extremely probable) event of a power cut whilst installing a new ROM? Is it possible to download to a PC first then connect to the TP2 later. How long do you need power for? Many thanks.
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Yes, you can just use your laptop to flash the rom. Make sure you have enough power on your laptop though. You wouldn't want the laptop to die in the middle of a flash. Same with your phone. It needs a minimum of 50% power. I would make sure to leave the laptop disconnected from the outlet though. You wouldn't want a surge or anything connecting with your phone.
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Now that you say all this I have a good question for you! my TP2 is 400 speed and I want to start playing playstation games on it, would flashing it over make it run faster for this purpose? and what would be the best one to go to for this purpose (and I disabled TF3D as well )
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You download the ROMs first then flash then on you device (TP2). You also download Hard-SPL and run it from you laptop, BUT it does require an internet connection as it connects at some point while in the process. It dosen't take very long, but not sure what would happen if you lost internet while you where running Hard-SPL.
Man, grant thats a challenge for me, never tried games, not a big fan. But yes if you want speed try the lean ROMs, almost all chefs have a lite version. If you want you can start paying with the kichen to have your own version. Let us know how your things fan out.
davidgee, for your question, when you are doing Hard SPL try to work with a laptop or UPS to avoid the power failure during the process, it can even brick your device. But for ROM or Radio flashing just use the SD card method, in brief copy the nbh file to card and boot to bootloader. Check the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium