Well hello.
First off i want to appologise for my bad english and for not knowing so much about how things work around windows mobile upgrading. Ive tried to read as much as possible but some things i just dont get.
The issue is about a Samsung SGH-i320 wich i dont know is a PPC or a Smartphone or if it belongs between any other smartphone fammily. Because of the BlackJack or SGH-i600U being out, the price on the i320 has sunken to an affordable price. So i bought one and im happy!... Well as happy as i can get for 212,74 EUR...
What ive read there is a WM6 upgrade out for the i600 somewhere ?
But can i theoreticly cook or make a ROM from that for my i320? Cuz what i understand the only difference in hardware is the cam and wifi abilities...
Or is there like a ROM that is universal for some mobiles/smartphone familys?
Thx for ur patience and time...
Welcome to the forum!
No need to apologize, your English is fine. And learning new things about our phones is why we are all here.
Your phone is a 'Smartphone'. It is very simple to tell the difference between a smartphone and pocket pc: smartphone does not have a touch screen but pocket pc does.
Note that 'Smatrtphone' is both the name of the Microsoft platform that runs your phone and a general term for phones that can do more than just calls and simple java applets.
Now there is no and can not be a 'universal' ROM for windows mobile devices because even devices with identical hardware may have different memory mapping or bootloader.
It is theoretically possible to make ROM for one device from a device that is close to it but we do not have cooking tools for Samsung phones here.
This forum is mainly about HTC made devices.
That said I am fairly sure someone somewhere is working on i320 so keep searching.
Please do not try to upgrade directly with the i600 ROM. You will kill your phone.
Thank u very much for ur perfect answer
U even got me to understand u...
Ok so trying to upgrade my phone with the i600 ROM is a extremly bad idea eh? hehe
Well i just have to keep my eyes open and see if something happens...
Thank u so much Now i have to take care of my kids.
The answer was not fully perfect; we simply can assume no WM6 version will ever be available for this phone ?
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ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals
xda-orbit-wm6 said:
ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals
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Regarding software, best bet would be to ask for something specific, and before asking, check through the forums to see if anyone else hasn't asked, or just released something you want.
cracked software will not get discussed here, if you want something like that, there are plenty of places on the web to look, but that discussion here isn't acceptable.
best bet would be to look through the custom(cooked) roms and see what you like, both Meschle and Tom have good roms out which add extra functionality to your phone.
I'm using Meschles Touch 3.01 (without cube) at the moment, very nice and complete, i'd read through the first few pages of the thread to get a few hints and tips also.
Have fun
i know what you mean
but i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
as what i know as a rom doesnt seem to mean the same thing when regards to phones
ive taken a guess at cooked means homebrew
just an idiots insite would be helpful
many thanks for your reply
adam
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I don't much care where" - Said Alice in Wonderland, "so long as I get somewhere".
"Then it does not matter which way you go", answered the Cheshire Cat.
Be more specific, like software for your PC there are 1001 different kinds of software and ways to use a handheld device. I myself use it mainly for navigation, adressbook, agenda, 'gameboy', Radio/MP3 Player, an occasional (GPS localised)photo and of course telephone and SMS. The herefound personalized Roms give you some extra options which often are mentioned in the first post in the corresponding threads.
Try to get hands on the manual, read the wiki/stickys and reconsider what you are asking .
As a starting point, i'd recommend you check out http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis
Hiya everybody!
I would love if someone could give me directions on where I can get good ROMs for flashing my brand new Artemis...
I'm brazilian, but I'm looking for a ROM in english with the best functions that people could get together....
I'm totally new to modding in here, tho I'm sorta pro in modding Motorola's MotoMING phone (my last one)
So if anyone could help me with directions of a newbie guide, I'd be glad....
I could write a newbie guide myself later on....when I lose the newbie status LOL
Check here for tips http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=362
There are also quite a number or ROMs in there too.
Although I would definately recommend this one.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365312 .. great speed, very light so you can add all your own apps and customize it how you like. Generally speakingm, after flashing alot of ROMs to my Orbit, I tend to stick with Meschle's ROMs and usually stick to his latest Vanilla. Although as I say there are alot of others, depends what your looking for from the ROM.
Any other questions Id be glad to help. I also have quite a collection of prgrams n customiations n stuff if your looking anything.
Thanks a lot for the hand!
It surely will come handy! I got the USPL to go over the CID locking system....
The carrier problem can be solved by the carrier itself, at least nowadays.....
To tell the truth, I'm in need of some tutorials on the best programs to have, what kind of stuff fits well in it...
I work with game design, and I'm starting to develop on python....I was wondering if there is anyway to run python programs in it too...
Last but not least, how much knowledge is necessary to work with Artemis?!?!!? LOL
Hmm unfortunately I dont do programming n such, i think you probably be better off asking those questions in the artemis developement / hacking section
If you were to develop Pocket PC applications, you may use eVC (free) or VS2005/8 (more expensive)
No idea about pythons.
How much knowledge? Probably nothing or as much as it is needed to read english. All you need is to experience and experiment to learn.
Regards,
Carty..
@fubofo
Thanks for answering again, man! I know that not everyone is a fan of programming stuff....
I got the ROM you said you were using and I'm gonna flash it today...hope it works and I don't end with a 15 hundred bucks brick....
@Carty
When I said knowledge, I ment time spent studying stuff made for it and etc...but still the ability to read english is way too complex for some people in my country....
I'll take a look at the eVC and see what can be done in it....
I have Eclipse's SDK and Visual Studio 2008 here....any of them is good for it?
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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you are welcome to be the first one to try! such old questions that has been answered many many times.
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
first of all the RAM and ROM size is different, it will turn your hermes to a brick ... but again, you're more than welcome to be the first one to try.
well then that is all I needed to know. That is the reason why I can not do it.. cause the ram and the rom size is different. Thank You.
You wont be able to install it. But if you would like to brick your hermes, then go ahead and try it and let us know
GOD DAMN!!! Congrats Men!
The most inspirated question i have heard I come from wizard threads and letme tell you...
The RUU original will tell you ERROR (XXXX) Wrong device or wrong ID or wrong ROM Update Utility
God Damn!!! but if you try to extract the NBF from the exe with winrar...
maybe it's named Ruu_signed.nbf for Hermes... or its calle NK.nbf as in Wizard or maybe is called Dont_extract_me_fool.nbf
Maybe yopu can rename it to RUU Signed.nbf and put it on RUU Wrapper and run it!!!
I know a guy that has an Universal and flash a Custom rom for Wizard on its...
OBVIOUSLY it is bricked!!!! a blank screen only! no Bootloader no hardreset.
So... answered bye
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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I know that this has been answered--NO but I thought you might like to know a bit more.
1--The hermes uses a completely different chipset and video set up.
2--the ROM and RAM sizes are completely different. The tilt has more than two times the amount that the hermes has
3--The Hermes is a single processor device running a 400Mhz as you stated but the tilt is a dual processor device --one running the os and the other handling the calls to hardware such as the radio and gps.
4--The devices take completely different drivers. You should have researched the specs before asking this type of question.
Finally, winmobile is not like xp. It is not built to handle any hardware you through at it. It is very customized for the hardware on which it is installed. It has to be to fit in the small storage on these devices.
There are 6.1 versions of cooked roms already for the hermes. just use one of those! Better yet, don't ever flash your device because ...well I am sure you can figure out the rest of that sentence!
Tilt is very old phone...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
I bet you're glad you asked now
Welcome to the ever friendly world of XDA!!!
Mil3 said:
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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huh? he's not a chef!
nismo00 said:
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
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Or a n00b asking to a n00b...
Tilt is an old phone? I think that he wants to say... hermes is better than tilt.... then I understands that he agree to the other n00b to flash even a Diamond ROM... does I am wrong, well I understand that...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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Tilt is newer than hermes.
Let us know how it works? Men this guy is dangerous!!!!
Good to have aNNNN another new cook? what da heck? hahaha
Enjoy your fantastic and fabulous thread.... n00bs!!!
I think he wants an original 6.1 on his hermes... thats all... but men why dont you read there is a thread with this question.
I think we all got our noob bashing off our chest and I think the OP has got the message its not a good idea. How bout we drop this pointless thread now.....
Another noob here
I realize that y'all become impatient and annoyed with noobs, but this very question is what led me to this site in the first place. I apologize that I'm just a concerned and inexperienced consumer trying to gain knowledge from the best source I can find online, and that I haven't really mastered searching this site as well as everyone else to find the answers to my dilemma.
I have an AT&T 8525 and HTC told me that they aren't going to do any more updates, and also, no, I can't download the Tilt ROM onto my phone. In fact, they planned to pull the WM 6 ROMs off their site on October 31. I just rechecked the HTC site this evening, and they've removed *all* updates for the 8525 from the page I used to visit. So if I brick my phone by doing some silly noob thing, I can't even go back and get the old WM 6.0 ROM.
I've already had the opportunity to see the new AT&T Fuze since it hit the stores yesterday, but I'm wary of buying it the minute it comes out. I would prefer to lurk for a while and see what the rest of y'all have to say in the Raphael forums before I spend the money.
Please be charitable to people like me who are just trying to be cautious. I love the phone I have because it's been very reliable, but yet it's obvious that there is a "planned obsolescence" for the 8525. Meanwhile, I'm just looking here for something I can do to get WM 6.1 for my 8525 until I'm satisfied that they've gotten the bugs out of the Fuze. I think there's still plenty of life left in my 8525 and you might say I just want to renew my love affair with it.
OK, noob rant over..thanks for your consideration!
Step 1... Install Hard SPL V7 onto your 8525. It helps recover your Hermes if it does go south while doing the update.
Step 2... Look at the WM06 section of the forum. Just about ALL the roms displayed there at the moment are Wm6.1. Read the Chefs writeup about their ROM and see if you like it.
If you did a search with the keywords "Hermes roms" it may have led you back to the original stock ROMs and cooked ROMs. These are pretty old now though.
Cheers...
It doesn't hurt to actually get your own library of ROMs, I made sure I have my stock Telstra rom stored on my hard drive. Since you knew that the stock ROM you use was about to be pulled you should've downloaded it so if something does go wrong you actually have it and don't remain victim to HTC's will. Now it may be harder to find the stock rom you use...
Helo guys, I have just started watching this forum for few days and searching and trying to learn about different rom and cooked rom. so far so good i didnt understand a thing all this thing im trying is cause im buying Omnia i900 tomorrow... before buying i wanted to learn about winmo things many ppl say many things "smart people smart phone blabla" i used to do programming once for pc not for mobiles. anyway i want to be part of this forum as well. if you have spare time please teach me a little bit how can i make my Omnia better working since i heard some issues about this phone as well. of course i know no phone is perfect and here in our country other high end phone is too expensive... i hope my words doesnt offend any one... please leave a reply if you feel friendly... thanks...
modaco for omnia
rasumia said:
Helo guys, I have just started watching this forum for few days and searching and trying to learn about different rom and cooked rom. so far so good i didnt understand a thing all this thing im trying is cause im buying Omnia i900 tomorrow... before buying i wanted to learn about winmo things many ppl say many things "smart people smart phone blabla" i used to do programming once for pc not for mobiles. anyway i want to be part of this forum as well. if you have spare time please teach me a little bit how can i make my Omnia better working since i heard some issues about this phone as well. of course i know no phone is perfect and here in our country other high end phone is too expensive... i hope my words doesnt offend any one... please leave a reply if you feel friendly... thanks...
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try this http://www.modaco.com/forum.html
To all Moderators, Programmers and the Experts of WinMo, why there's are still much problems from the others members that cannot be done or resolve from their threads in each section of forum, including mine?
I suggest to all of you, please help them and me!
firstly of all your link doesn't show your problem
secondly and most importantly: this is not a way to achieve anything except looking like a fool to other members.
everyone has problems,but people mostly search,ask in specific threads and wait for the response,or even come up with own solutions.
you can't come here and say hey solve my problem, it just isn't alright and it seems very selfish.
imagine everyone doing what you did here...the forum would be closed just like this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578575 ...read last few posts and it will be clear to you
isn't it sad, how human foolishness and selfishness can ruin other people's hope and efforts.
and do you really think that someone who had or has a solution for your problem wouldn't tell it to you in first place
Thanks a lots and i'm really sorry Bro, i just need a help cause i can't do it without'em ...
provide us a link...i'll help if i can
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provide us a link...i'll help if i can
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Bro, you can see it all the threads started by me that still not resolve yet...
And thanks before
wm 2003 had an option to backup everything...and that option went away with newer generations of wms,coming with newer devices because of the differences in chips and chipsets...
in wm 2002/03 you could loose all your data if your phone was long without battery,it isn't the case with newer devices,so you don't need a backup like that one
i believe you need something like "PIMbackup" which is the best backup app ever IMO,it can backup and restore contacts,messages,apointments,to do,tasks and any folder you choose...and it is free
as far as wm5/6/6.1/6.5 go...i had...i mean i still have an htc magician which also had 2003se,but the hardware just wasn't able to handle newer os ...or at least there wasn't much interest because the device was getting very old...as one guy said to you some time ago...some devices did receive updates ie himalaya...but mostly thanks to dedicated devs and it's hardware....i still have a himalaya which is working...although battery is pretty worn out
so you should stop expecting to successfully cook a rom for you HPs unless you are some kind of programing/win ce guru...
any other questions?
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wm 2003 had an option to backup everything...and that option went away with newer generations of wms,coming with newer devices because of the differences in chips and chipsets...
in wm 2002/03 you could loose all your data if your phone was long without battery,it isn't the case with newer devices,so you don't need a backup like that one
i believe you need something like "PIMbackup" which is the best backup app ever IMO,it can backup and restore contacts,messages,apointments,to do,tasks and any folder you choose...and it is free
as far as wm5/6/6.1/6.5 go...i had...i mean i still have an htc magician which also had 2003se,but the hardware just wasn't able to handle newer os ...or at least there wasn't much interest because the device was getting very old...as one guy said to you some time ago...some devices did receive updates ie himalaya...but mostly thanks to dedicated devs and it's hardware....i still have a himalaya which is working...although battery is pretty worn out
so you should stop expecting to successfully cook a rom for you HPs unless you are some kind of programing/win ce guru...
any other questions?
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Nothing more question Bro, even i'm already have Atom and Prophet but i'm still hope or expecting for only just WM2003SE for my hp iPAQ h6365 (that still original WM2003) from XDA-Dev Programmers or WinCE Guru's if it still possible cause in my opinion that HTC Magician has succesfully jump to WM6.1 and WM6.5 by Russian ROM Cookers, so how come there's no one ROM Cookers would upgrade hp iPAQ h6365 to just WM2003SE or to WM5?
I need the last big help from you, please ask to Moderators to close this thread if it necessary cause i guess this is no longer usefull anymore ...
And thanks a lot's before!
not true,magician only got a skin that looks just like wm 5/6 but it still is 2003