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xda orbit running wm6pro...noob help plz

ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals

xda-orbit-wm6 said:
ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals
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Regarding software, best bet would be to ask for something specific, and before asking, check through the forums to see if anyone else hasn't asked, or just released something you want.
cracked software will not get discussed here, if you want something like that, there are plenty of places on the web to look, but that discussion here isn't acceptable.
best bet would be to look through the custom(cooked) roms and see what you like, both Meschle and Tom have good roms out which add extra functionality to your phone.
I'm using Meschles Touch 3.01 (without cube) at the moment, very nice and complete, i'd read through the first few pages of the thread to get a few hints and tips also.
Have fun

i know what you mean
but i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
as what i know as a rom doesnt seem to mean the same thing when regards to phones
ive taken a guess at cooked means homebrew
just an idiots insite would be helpful
many thanks for your reply
adam

xda-orbit-wm6 said:
i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
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I don't much care where" - Said Alice in Wonderland, "so long as I get somewhere".
"Then it does not matter which way you go", answered the Cheshire Cat.
Be more specific, like software for your PC there are 1001 different kinds of software and ways to use a handheld device. I myself use it mainly for navigation, adressbook, agenda, 'gameboy', Radio/MP3 Player, an occasional (GPS localised)photo and of course telephone and SMS. The herefound personalized Roms give you some extra options which often are mentioned in the first post in the corresponding threads.
Try to get hands on the manual, read the wiki/stickys and reconsider what you are asking .

As a starting point, i'd recommend you check out http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis

Excuse my stupidity

I recently purchased an 8525 and stumbled on to this fantastic site.
It's like a kid in a candy store. Unfortunately I have no idea the language you speak but want to learn where can I get a crash course on all this?
I am stunned by the level of features that you all apparently have and I want them too. So if someone could guide me to kindergarten class it would be appreciated.

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I recently purchased an 8525 and stumbled on to this fantastic site.
It's like a kid in a candy store. Unfortunately I have no idea the language you speak but want to learn where can I get a crash course on all this?
I am stunned by the level of features that you all apparently have and I want them too. So if someone could guide me to kindergarten class it would be appreciated.
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before you get flammed - I'd suggest looking through a few posts to get an idea what you want to do, and learn the structure of what you have to work with.
Options:
Install customizations on your currently installed operating system
Reflash to a custom OS
Build your own custom OS
Upgrade to a newer Radio
Install custom first and second splash screens
But if you do any flashing - read the Wiki and INSTALL HARDSPL FIRST!!!!

dewcrewboosman said:
I recently purchased an 8525 and stumbled on to this fantastic site.
It's like a kid in a candy store. Unfortunately I have no idea the language you speak but want to learn where can I get a crash course on all this?
I am stunned by the level of features that you all apparently have and I want them too. So if someone could guide me to kindergarten class it would be appreciated.
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I agree with mattk_r look around before you start asking questions you have found the right section so your on the right path. Your 8525 is a Hearms model made by HTC. if your on the OS it shipped with then your using WM5 A lot of the people around here have had 20 versions of WM6 flashed to their units. So before you try to flash READ,READ, READ everything you need to know is in "XDA-Wiki" and as stated above, before you try anything make sure you "hard spl" your device ,don't ask me what that is go to Wiki and find out everything you need to know is there. If you don't then you are going to find out what the term "Brick" means and you don't want to no that.Good luck and welcome to the club

read read read. There's always new roms coming out. Watch one and follow it along and see how bugs get worked out. I read and watched for about a month before i finally tried one.

When you do actually decide to flash a new ROM, you should definately check out Mr. Vanx's site. His walk-throughs are top-notch.

Before you do anything ake sure you have Hard SPL on your device. You'll find it in the Hermes Upgrading forum. After that you should be good to play. I spent a few months reading different threads just to see what everyone was talking about. It did me a world of good because I knew the terms and roughly what to do.

Hi...also, check out the well done new member intro (by stevebonning) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748

Thanks for being gentle on me. I will read, read, read as suggested.
Again all of you guys and gals are freakin amazing as I read thru these I am impressed by your creativity and ingenuity to work around programs.

Tom Codon and Meschle Should Join Forces To make a Super Rom.

Hi,
I think tom and meschle should join forces, making a fast, well performing (meschle) rom with good applications with an awesome GUI (tom).
Tom's roms always have amazing bootscreens, themes, and an overall very nice GUI, whilst they lack performance.
Meschle's roms always perform well and are very fast, but they lack the visual aattractiveness as Tom's roms.
Therefore, combining the two would produce an all rounded super rom!
What do you all think?

you can do it, you re the man!

no not me, meschle and tom!

Agreed. But there would still have to be some compromises made as rom can't be 100% as beautiful as Tom's and 100% fast as Meschle's.

Whats wrong with the new Vanilla ? It is just perfect...
Just install HtcHome or what you prefer for your design change bootscreen if you like.
Can it be better ? I guess not

can't find the keyboard icon and skin as in B&B

I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS

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I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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I agree with you this sener.

I think it would be a lot more effective if we filles the wiki with so much useful information that everybody could cook his own ROMs. The only thing we might need is a kitchen with a better gui. I used both of their ROMs and like both for the stated reasons. Since I couldn't decide which to use I cooked my own ROM.
You'll have to spend about 50 hours of reasearch to be able to create your own version if you are a beginner, with a little help and a lot of computer experience you can handle it in 2 hours or less.
Fast and super stylish won't work, compare XP and Vista!

sener said:
I don't qgree with you uzzy.
First of all, they are not the only coockers.
More, everybody has its own style: you mention the main difference between these two one but the purpose is to have everybody having its onw "touch" in roms.
Even if it is WM, the coockers are not MS
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If you don't like it you don't have to use it, but why deny other people the opportunity to experience something new?
Just because you don't like the idea, doesn't mean you have use your first post ever to stop tom and meschle making a rom together......its their choice, not yours.
And also, where did i say they are the only cookers? - I didn't, so why say "First of all, they are not the only coockers". This fact is totally irrelevant.
I mentioned Tom and Meschle because they are the BEST cookers for Artemis (Not the only ones).
Oh and btw, learn to spell.

Well, they are the best cookers in this forum that publish their work. I'm pretty sure there are guys (or girls?) out there that laugh about the beginner mistakes people are making here.
I'm not saying that I'm better than any other cooker out there, but I never published any ROM for legal reasons and because I don't want 1000 questions/answers for each ROM I produce. No thanx, don't got the time.

Registerme said:
I think it would be a lot more effective if we filles the wiki with so much useful information that everybody could cook his own ROMs. The only thing we might need is a kitchen with a better gui. I used both of their ROMs and like both for the stated reasons. Since I couldn't decide which to use I cooked my own ROM.
You'll have to spend about 50 hours of reasearch to be able to create your own version if you are a beginner, with a little help and a lot of computer experience you can handle it in 2 hours or less.
Fast and super stylish won't work, compare XP and Vista!
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I agree on this one!!
If somebody could provide a good kitchen with a better GIU, I would be able to learn to cook myself.
Now I just don't know how to start... you need to read/combine several threads to be able to get the info you need to start to learn...
If just some of those master cookers, can make a decent guide for us, we'll be able to do it ourselfs...
Hopefully one day somebody would do this guide and kitchen with a better gui, cause I really hope I can learn to cook

Believe me, cooking is not very difficult, (in my opinion) the Artemis' Wiki is crap if you are a beginner and want to learn to cook. I recently found out how this works and was amazed how fast you can cook a ROM. I'm currently busy at University but next week my tests are over and I will start creating my tutorials with pictures and videos.
You need HyperCoreKitchen, OK Package Creator and a official ROM, that's it. As soons as you know how to do it you can create your own ROM in minutes. I'll make a big thread out of it, you won't miss it.
I don't want to offend those who have spent a lot of time creating tutorials and writing into the wiki (thanx for your work guys!), but there are almost no all-in-one tutorials. I read in the Kaiser, Hermes, Artemis and some other wikis and forums to get all the informations I needed. Basically if you read the Hermes Cookbook and use OK Package Creator instead of doing all the package stuff it states there then you know what to do.

Registerme said:
Believe me, cooking is not very difficult, (in my opinion) the Artemis' Wiki is crap if you are a beginner and want to learn to cook. I recently found out how this works and was amazed how fast you can cook a ROM. I'm currently busy at University but next week my tests are over and I will start creating my tutorials with pictures and videos.
You need HyperCoreKitchen, OK Package Creator and a official ROM, that's it. As soons as you know how to do it you can create your own ROM in minutes. I'll make a big thread out of it, you won't miss it.
I don't want to offend those who have spent a lot of time creating tutorials and writing into the wiki (thanx for your work guys!), but there are almost no all-in-one tutorials. I read in the Kaiser, Hermes, Artemis and some other wikis and forums to get all the informations I needed. Basically if you read the Hermes Cookbook and use OK Package Creator instead of doing all the package stuff it states there then you know what to do.
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Thanks mate, really looking forward to your superguide!!

Best WM6 ROM to upgrade to for someone who NEED IDEAS!! but is open to ALL opinion

Simple question I want all opinions, I just got my 2nd 8525, and this time I am gonna do it RIGHT!! (last 1 i had I was super n00b and kiled it within 48hrs I cried for a week) Anyways I just want the simplest answer or opinion I want my 8525 to last forever. SO I will flash it to the BEST WM6 ROM once and never again will I change it.
SO I am looking for just the BEST GENERAL OVERALL WM6 ROM, I am just gonna be using it as phone and only use the WiFI to connect to the NET, so the ROM I am looking for needs to be STABLE and needs to NOT ruin me or my 8525, I have been reading everyones SIGs to see what ROMs ya'll use, but I just WANT the Opinions of the regulars here
WHAT Windows Mobile 6 ROM should I upgrade to?? I will take ALL suggestions PLEASE help me, I dont wanna kill my 8525 again, I just want to flash it and leave it at that!!
THANK YOU EVERYONE
P.S I'm not a complete n00b if u read the whole thread you'll see I do my homework

the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.

XtreMe_G said:
the number one advise which everyone has been giving which has been pounded into everyone's mind, which you somehow manage to avoid listening to, is to first install hardspl. Hardspl is a must if you want to upgrade your rom.
as for the best rom recommendation, i will tell you this, there is no such thing as a best rom, everyone will have their own preferences, what works for one may not work for another person. just see any thread on ppl asking for best roms and you will see many many different replies.
just by the fact that you are making this post i will assume you want the easy way out, you rather have ppl do the recommendations for you than read and learn on your own, so i will give you the easy way out solution. Install the official at&t wm6 rom, and just soft reset before the customization starts and there you go, all done. its either that or return you phone and get a firefly. or a symbian phone. but i highly recommend the firefly.
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doubt he understands... =)

follow this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
and get Farias/Dr Puttinghams R32
enjoy ..
Remember follow the steps
HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro)
You will find it and visit
wiki.xda-developers.com

Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.

Fallen Spartan said:
Still don't believe noobs don't read the guides before installing. As test7875 said above you need to go through the upgrade guide, and possibly wiki pages before you do anything to your phone.
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this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework, I have read the wiki over and over, and I already have DONE the HARSPL V7 first .. (from olipro).

Once you've got HardSPL on, it's up to you really. Some are good and some are...flaky, to be polite.
I would start with the official one from your carrier and use that for a day or two so you have a good, hopefully stable, benchmark to measure the competition up against.
Bang all your apps on it and see how it runs then try the same thing on the cooked ones.
Smiffy.

I Phrased my Subject of the Thread and my actual question WRONG, I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want, be I want the opinions of you guys, the ones that call me a n00b, I value your opinion, I did my homework, I just want to flash my 8525 ONCE to a WM6 ROM that will last me the life of the phone. Heres what I like 1. theme skins 2. stability 3. good wifi 4. and I guess I want no bloatware so it will be a FAST ROM
So basically I just want to know what you guys (the experts) can suggest to me. Just want 1 ROM that will enable me to use my 8525 to the best of its capabilities!!
thank you
nicknowsky

i have used the offical ROM on my last 8525, and thats the one that got me i n troube and killed my 1st 8525
if u read the post above I gave a description of what i am looking for, or you know what I would like to know What The Most Popular WM6 ROM Is?? (no 6.1)

this is my 2nd time around if you Wouldnt MIND checking out the attached jpeg of my 8525 Bookmarks you would see that I do DO MY homework
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I wasn't particularly mentioning you, just noobs in general. Not offence intended
As for a particular ROM. As you mentioned
I know that ther is NO best ROM is all about what features u want
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its hard to pick a ROM for you. Generally you can't go wrong with Farias/Dr Puttinghams/schaps to name a few. As for applications, be careful not to overload your phone with .cab's as this will slow it down.
There are a number of ROM's out there which are stripped of applications and built more for speed (though right now I'm having a complete blond moment and can't remeber one of them....doh!!!), and from there you can add to your own personal preferences.

Hey SPARTAN, I noticed u are using WM6.1, but before that what ROM did you use, and better yet what was the ROM that you used the absolute LONGEST??? or what is your personal favorite??

I'm a bit of a ROM freak, as I never keep the same ROM for any real length of time. Think I've used pretty much everything with little tweaks here and there.
Mostly used Schaps, as he tends to provide very stable ROM’s and eagerly awaiting Schaps 6.1 full version, but currently using Faria-R32 / Dr Puttingham WM6.1

Well I am close to going thru with the ROM flash, I just did my weekly REINSTALL of my operating system (been using XP lately) and I just installed the necessary drivers and programs to keep my computer from messing up or having ANY sort of error while the flash process is going on, just the very basics installed, thats really what the cause of death was for my first AT&T 8525(HERMES100) I got sloppy and was then a n00b, did a real n00bish thing and KILLED my 1st 8525. The funny thing with that was I had it for only 48hrs, and I cried for a week after. I still have it, might send it to HTC USA for repair.
But getting back to the todays upgrade, I am still in the process of deciding what ROM I will install, so I gotta ask are there ANY last recommendations on which WM6 ROM I should use?? I just wanna hear any and all last opinions

1st : Shamanix Ultimate v2 Final and 2nd : Kinokin WM6 Final.

I'm valuing ALL opinions

I know, I know this getting annoying and I keep asking dumb questions but I wanna decide, so here is the question
Which is better and/or more stable Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 or 4.01???
and how good is Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31 cause I am almost leaning towards 4.31, but I like I have said before I want stability and something thats gonna keep my 8525 running longest and strongest
This is gonna be it NO more stupidity coming from ME, I just want last opinions on Schap's WM6 Pro 4.00 - 4.01 and 4.31
and THANK YOU everyone who took the time to help me, I know members like me get annoying, but I do my homework, I just wanted a little help
THANKS

Opinions, eh? I'm opinionated AND drunk...
Here's mine: go with 6.0 instead of 6.1.
People experienced in dealing with little niggles and issues by altering registry entries or installing lots of small cabs get on fine with 6.1, depending on which ROM of course. If you're new to upgrading then the issues that have yet to ironed out of 6.1 in such as a way as to make it a simple 1-click-to-install-and-you're-done job will probably annoy you too much. Smiffy's advice was really good mate: start with a ROM you can rely on, which basically means your own carrier's. If they haven't produced a WM6 yet (mine, OrangeUK, haven't and probably won't as they do lag rather badly in that area) then go for the most basic, cut-down and reportedly stable 6.0.
After you've got used to using your carrier's mobile you'll notice when the phone's faster or not when using different things on a new ROM. Only move up to 6.1 when you're well-used to how your phone fares with 6.0. (I'm assuming you won't install any benchmarking software. Not calling you lazy as I don't either - I just judge the 'feel' of it.)
I heartily recommend using mattk_r's Pandora Naked 6.0 - it's stable as any ROM I've ever used, including official ROMs. Give me a minute, I'l fetch the link.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1731669
I use a ROM based on the kitchen with a lot of my own kit thrown in. But I didn't start out like that; I started out like you, needing a few pointers, doing a lot of reading and occasionally annoying the hell out of myself.
By the way, if you're not using an SDHC card (which I assume you're not from the sounds of things) do me a favour and stick a copy of the original carrier's ROM on your SD card after renaming it HERIMG.nbh. Should you do a ChunkyMonkey Special and temporarily brick your phone (I used to do it all the time mate) it's an easy out in many cases, even if you can't boot past your bootloader.
(But take the SD card out when you flash your ROM. Although that's good practice anyway, so just do it.. )

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917&highlight=ultimate
As you can see (if you checked!) Ultimate is based on Schaps 4.31 ROM and more refined.

I'd go for LVSW.
Seriously man, you're asking the impossible. If you've read the forum so throroughly as you've claimed, you'd know that once you start, you'll not stop. Each of the ROMs, whilst good in their own way, has some kind o prolems with it that will make you change it for something else.
For example - Schaps 4.31 - an excellent rom but you have to install a fix for button 5 plus a couple of other gripes. Nothing major but enough to make me eventually keep looking once something different comes along.
You're not going to find the "one" rom.
The only place you'll find the one is in the matrix. Flashing is like the red pill. You're free of restraint but it comes at a cost.

I know I am asking for a "DREAM" I really just wanted opinions of what would be a GOOD, solid WM6 ROM, cause I am gonna flash it ONCE to the ROM I pick and that s IT, not more flashing or trying out new ROMs and this or that.
Put it this way IF you all had to CHOOSE just 1 WM6 ROM to flash and the fate of the world was riding on your choice of ROM, it had to be stable and save humanity, What ROM would that be??
thats the kinda opinions I want to help me make my choice

hi there - new backgrounds

hi there and Happy new year..
I have found this forum and i am pretty happy for i find it a usefull forum with happy HTC users...
i have look allover to find more people that share all kinds of stuff...
i was looking for few things and i could not find it anywhere...
I am very new here as you can see this is my very first post...
i have a yahoo id if you guys want 2 cool home modified backgrounds... let me know i'll find a way to post them.
if you need more art work to be done i am willing to help out in exchange of software. i can create/change any gif/png/jpg. i can make custom backgrounds. so.. let me know
i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.

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i don't know to much about HTC TYTN - Hermes - what is the best Windows 6...? or ROM ???
thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.

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Welcome to the board. You gotta be careful of that question. You have like 30 chefs on here and you're probably going to get flamed for not researching. I guess the best way to decide which ROM is the best is to decide what you want to use your device for. Then start reading. Or you could cook your own. Before I started cooking, I used JoshKoss, CRC, Mick Smith's. They are all good. Just read my friend.
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thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance

crossroads777 said:
thanks a lot for teh fast response.. i read so much .. i just don't know much about phones running windows.. i am not trying to do anything wrong.. i am asking because i need to understand... th principle.. names.. pls help .. where should i look for some answers.. i am a fast learner.. i prommise...
do you mind if i asking you if you have a yahoo id? so you can help me better and faster pls.. thanks in advance
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WHOA WHOA slow down you over-achiever. Take a deep breath. Now, this should be your first read. It has a BUNCH of info. The site has a WIKI also that answers a ton of stuff. Yes, I have a Yahoo ID. It's in my signature, just send an invite.

lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.

Imyman said:
lol...yes indeed. Your question is almost begging to be flamed. Though you may also get lucky and get away with it Like the above poster said there isn't anything like a specific 'best' ROM for a phone. Its a personal preference. The wiki is an excellent place for you to get started on getting to understand everything you need to know about you phone. Use the search option for any question you have. Your bound to find relevant results on almost any type of search. Happy reading and welcome to the board.
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sorry guys,, newbees fault...
after i got the first answer i have found teh WIKI.. no bad intentions here...
i just saw so many ROMS... and i hardly know what they are.. just now trying to find out.. somebody enlighten me pls..
i am reading, reading..
thanks..

Start with CRC's rom.. good, fast, stable

This cant be flamed, BTW!!!! this can be great apreciatted.
I meet many designers and has magic on their hands (and HD's full of tricks on photoshop's projects!) well if you want to start... you can talk with joshkoss, CRC, abuzalsa and many others... cause at this time they are trying to change some icons in .PNG and .ICO full glossy pics maybe 32 x 32 or less like the Notification Icons in upper bar... so talk to him about your skills maybe you can give us new Icons or something... read about the images on the ROMS... what extension, or what kind, sizes, and wheigts...
Hope you can find your work here.