Bluetooth internet sharing problem - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

i know there are tons of forms on this already but ive read through them all and cant figure it out i was woundering if some one could dumb it down for me. im having the problem where bluetooth pan will conect and say connected on my lap top and my hermes but then ie can not use the conncection.
usb connection works just fine.
the hermes is running windows mobile 6
laptop is vista
widcomm bluetooth stack from the cd that came with my kensington bluetooth dongle
ive heard the solution is a diffrent bluetooth stack but i tired installing blue soleil and it crashed the laptop in to a blue screen. i tried tobisha and it couldnt recqonice the dongle.
any help is much appreciated thank you

fb.knight said:
i know there are tons of forms on this already but ive read through them all and cant figure it out i was woundering if some one could dumb it down for me. im having the problem where bluetooth pan will conect and say connected on my lap top and my hermes but then ie can not use the conncection.
usb connection works just fine.
the hermes is running windows mobile 6
laptop is vista
widcomm bluetooth stack from the cd that came with my kensington bluetooth dongle
ive heard the solution is a diffrent bluetooth stack but i tired installing blue soleil and it crashed the laptop in to a blue screen. i tried tobisha and it couldnt recqonice the dongle.
any help is much appreciated thank you
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try to use static ip adress

im not sure how to set that up could you walk me through it

I think the problem is that your dongle needs to be able to use the MS Vista stack. I had a similar problem and had to change my dongle in the end, luckily they were cheaper but I had to make sure if worked with the native Windows drivers.

Wam7 said:
I think the problem is that your dongle needs to be able to use the MS Vista stack. I had a similar problem and had to change my dongle in the end, luckily they were cheaper but I had to make sure if worked with the native Windows drivers.
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ok im open to that what dongle did you use? and did it come with the right bluetooth stack what one do you use?
edit: k so i was just looking and your saying the bluetooth stack is built in to vista right? i was found it and it dose not seem to see my dongle

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Using PAN and Internet Sharing

Maybe I am missing something here. I used to use the DUN with my 8525 and never had a problem with my laptop. I flashed today with XDA .20 and can not figure out how to work the new PAN. I tried everything and just can not get it to work. Am I missing something?
Use the internet sharing app. If you are tethering via USB make sure to disable bluetooth or your device won't get a DHCP lease from the PAN driver.
I have a problem connect Via bluetooth using Internet Sharing with all version of WM6. When pair with the PC, the PC can only transfer file with my 8525 only. But when using Cingular 3.3 aku my PC can find Serial port profile and connect to Internet Sharing.
Does anyone know a registry fix for this?, I am using a Sony laptop with build in toshiba bluetooth stack. When went back to 3.3 aku internet sharing Via bluetooth work again.
Thanks
tandao said:
I have a problem connect Via bluetooth using Internet Sharing with all version of WM6. When pair with the PC, the PC can only transfer file with my 8525 only. But when using Cingular 3.3 aku my PC can find Serial port profile and connect to Internet Sharing.
Does anyone know a registry fix for this?, I am using a Sony laptop with build in toshiba bluetooth stack. When went back to 3.3 aku internet sharing Via bluetooth work again.
Thanks
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Now I dont feel so bad - this is exactly what is happening to me.
bluetooth PAN does NOT works with toshiba stack! upgrade your laptop to Vista and don't install toshiba stack! Vista (microsoft) stack works!
netnerd said:
bluetooth PAN does NOT works with toshiba stack! upgrade your laptop to Vista and don't install toshiba stack! Vista (microsoft) stack works!
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I have vista and winxp with toshiba stack on the same laptop (dual boot), both doesn't work with all version of WM6 available here, but it work with 3.3 aku cingular rom.
Where can I find MS stack? when I unintalled toshiba stack, all the driver for the bluetooth is gone.
Edit: Thanks for the tips, I finally get it to work VIA bluetooth, the problem is the toshiba bluetooth stack. I uninstalled the toshiba stack, and do and manually driver installed and choose Toshiba as the manufacture, and intergrate bluetooth, Vista find a driver for it and activate the MS stack.
The issue with the Toshiba stack is this:
The auto discovery is the only way to set up services. However, the PAN service doesn't display unless the devices are paired. Toshiba can only Pair with devices seen during discovery....
Its a damn catch-22....
Sleuth255 said:
The issue with the Toshiba stack is this:
The auto discovery is the only way to set up services. However, the PAN service doesn't display unless the devices are paired. Toshiba can only Pair with devices seen during discovery....
Its a damn catch-22....
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screw the toshiba stack! just dont install that junk, Vista will automally install Microsoft bluetooth stack!
Can someone please detail the steps on how to get Internet Sharing via bluetooth for either XP or vista?
TIA!
Interestingly, there's a help topic in WM6 that explains this! Tap Start->help and then choose "search"
Now search for "Internet sharing". How to set up the m$ bt stack on your desktop is explained there.
M$ stack
I just have the same prob. on my laptop with XP SP2 and toshiba BT stack...
how can i fix the drivers for M$ BT stack without install VISTA ???
THX in advance
vdavide
Since upgrading to WM6 Black, I can't seem to get the Wireless Modem (internet sharing) to work. I am using a USB cable but when I start the DUN on the PC, it says there is no modem installed.
found the answer elsewhere - if you are using USB turn off BT on the device!
obvious really (?)
replacing Toshiba BT stack with Microsoft
Hey, I cant vouch for this since i dont have a toshiba but thought i might pass this on. hope it helps.
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_dtlViewDL.jsp?soid=841048
Is there any way to use old wmodem from WM5 on WM6. I have public ip and im afraid that using Internet Sharing make that i will be behind nat? If i think correctly? /dont have wm6 on hermes/
warmkiwi99 said:
Since upgrading to WM6 Black, I can't seem to get the Wireless Modem (internet sharing) to work. I am using a USB cable but when I start the DUN on the PC, it says there is no modem installed.
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Hey bud, Microsoft ditched DUN in WM6. If you have the drivers installed properly (included with Activesync 4.5) you should see a new LAN connection in your Network Connections. In Windows XP it should be described as "Windows Mobile-based Internet Sharing Device" If you don't have the driver installed you will see Generic RNDIS in your Device Manager. From what i understand if you have Vista installed on your computer these drivers come stock (on the Final full version of Vista, not included by default on RC1, not sure about RC2)
hope this helps...
PAN with toshiba stack
I downloaded an updated bluetooth stack from
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
and it worked fine.
Pair hermes with computer. First turn on internetsharing then connect using pan profile.
TheLuggs said:
I downloaded an updated bluetooth stack from
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/download.php
and it worked fine.
Pair hermes with computer. First turn on internetsharing then connect using pan profile.
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... mmm interesting ... wich version of toshiba stack you used ? and wich version of WM6 on your device ?
I tried the very latest version of toshiba stack with LVSW first WM6 version but doesn't work .... only the M$ stack work ( fine too ).
Bye
vdavide
vdavide said:
... mmm interesting ... wich version of toshiba stack you used ? and wich version of WM6 on your device ?
I tried the very latest version of toshiba stack with LVSW first WM6 version but doesn't work .... only the M$ stack work ( fine too ).
Bye
vdavide
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Bluetooth stack:
v5.10.06
bluetooth spec:
2.0,1.2,1.1
with jasjamming's WM6 Black 2.0
works like a charm, couldn't get it to work wit the older toshiba stack supplied by asus (3.03.04)
TheLuggs said:
Bluetooth stack:
v5.10.06
bluetooth spec:
2.0,1.2,1.1
with jasjamming's WM6 Black 2.0
works like a charm, couldn't get it to work wit the older toshiba stack supplied by asus (3.03.04)
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i tried the v 5.10.06 too on my asus but still can't connect to my tytn WM6 LVSW first release .... maybe the different WM6 is the key of this problem...
wich options u use in the toshiba stack ( security level and so on ) ?
i tried high security level that force pairing with device ( and obviously pan enabled) but still get the message " only file tranfer service on the device ..."
i'm interested to get it to work too also if it's working now with m$ stack .
There may be some other users interested too...
THX
vdavide

help with Motorola HT820

Well i bought a hMotorola HT820 and i have done a lot of searching on here and cant seem to find anything. When i turn on the headphones and go into the vista wireless set up it finds the unit well. it will pair it up and say that its working just fine. but when i go to play a song it will not work. does anyone have any advice. i am so nervious looking on google for a other hour and it just not working at all . please
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can anyone offer any help?
Hi there, since I don't have any computer with windows vista, I wouldn't wanted to answer, but, since I also have been int this situation (when I asked for something else), well, here we go.
In your place I would first test the headphones with another computer, at least one that doesn't have vista, XP is well proven with bluetooth devices, as long as you do follow the exact instructions of the external BT dongle (if this is the case), why? Well XP stack does not work on many BT devices, so the maker of those, warns and explains you how to disable XP drivers and how to install theirs.
I've tested my HT820s long time ago, with a USB BT dongle (about 9 euro) and they worked the best I ever heard (considering that I bought them from a chinese Ebay seller and I'm pretty sure that they are a fake, or should I say, a copy of the original), the stack used for this BT dongle is a very well known one, the bluesoleil stack.
Then, you could pass on and try with vista, check your BT interface maker's site, check (if any) vista driver updatings, etc.
Hope this helps.

Internet Sharing and Vista

Hello, been using custel 2.5 for a while now, probably the day after it came out. Now I need to use internet sharing adn I`m not able to do it thru BT. When I pair my device I can do activesync just fine, but on Vistas BT manager (BT Devices) its not showing the dial-up device. This is strange it works fine with the USB connection, but I really need the BT. Please help. Thanks in advance.
BTW it used to work with wizard with WM6. Thanks
its not a dail up service to start off with its a PAN. second what BT stack are you using? I had the broadcomm stack first and that wouldnt work so i had to switch to the native MS stack and its works fine. If you know how to edit the bt.inf file on your vista machine that will install the MS stack instead of the other stack.
austinsnyc said:
its not a dail up service to start off with its a PAN. second what BT stack are you using? I had the broadcomm stack first and that wouldnt work so i had to switch to the native MS stack and its works fine. If you know how to edit the bt.inf file on your vista machine that will install the MS stack instead of the other stack.
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Doesnt it show up in the dial-up services in vista bt device manager ? so i guess Im doint it wrong ? Is there a tutorial that I can see. I remmber on the wizard WM6 it just showed up as a dial-up device and I just dial it. How do I do it here ? Maybe I dont even have to edit anything, maybe Im just having a senior moment thx for the reply
believe it or not if you use your handheld's help program and search for internet sharing it will give you instructions on how to set it up. and no it does not show up on vista as a dail up network since it is not also search this forum for Bluetooth PAN and there is lots of info
doh I never even looked at help on the phone thanks I see how to do it now I see that on the wizard they used the old wm5 modemlink or whatever its called. thanks again but plz try to be nicer to ppl next time
yozh said:
doh I never even looked at help on the phone thanks I see how to do it now I see that on the wizard they used the old wm5 modemlink or whatever its called. thanks again but plz try to be nicer to ppl next time
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I was being nice!! You should see me being mean!
hehe ok thanks for the tip I can't wait to get home and play
Its much better than WM5 i must say once you figure it out its so easy to use just click internet sharing and connect connect to your pc and your done its so easy
Yeah got it working, works ok kinda slow, I get about 322k on dslreports.com/mspeed while on the phone I get around 800k on the phone it self and about 800 using the USB cable. Any suggestion on how to speed it up ?
yozh said:
Yeah got it working, works ok kinda slow, I get about 322k on dslreports.com/mspeed while on the phone I get around 800k on the phone it self and about 800 using the USB cable. Any suggestion on how to speed it up ?
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I noticed the speed decrease over PAN compared to the USB cable as well. I get way more fluctuations over BT. I am sticking to the USB but it is a nice fallback. Also, for me, Internet Sharing is a night and day difference over dial-up networking/modem driver. It is so easy. This feature is a WM6 gem!
yozh said:
Yeah got it working, works ok kinda slow, I get about 322k on dslreports.com/mspeed while on the phone I get around 800k on the phone it self and about 800 using the USB cable. Any suggestion on how to speed it up ?
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Bluetooth is severely limited in Terms of speed, especially if you're not using Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
gridpool said:
I noticed the speed decrease over PAN compared to the USB cable as well. I get way more fluctuations over BT. I am sticking to the USB but it is a nice fallback. Also, for me, Internet Sharing is a night and day difference over dial-up networking/modem driver. It is so easy. This feature is a WM6 gem!
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Yeah just wish I didnt loose 500k over bluetooth
anyone else stuck with vista showing unknown device in device manager when usb tethering with internet sharing on mine it seems to work for 5 mins then disconnect and give up reverting back to unknown device. so im stuck with bluetooth
vista 64 bit
Hey Guys!
My first post with such a stupid problem:
i'm trying to connect to internet with vista 64bit using my hermes over usb. but it doesnt seem to work.
Until last week i had win xp sp3 on my pc and the internet sharing option in hermes worked without any problems. Now with Vista Ultimate 64 bit i can connect the phone to pc, sync works perfect.
when i start internet sharing, phone builds up a GPRS connection but after 2-3 sec it disconnects the data connection and active sync authentication starts with vista.
In vista i cant find any modem connection in network settings. The only thing i found was in device manager when phone is connected to pc (HTC USB Modem)
here is my spec :
- windows vista ultimate 64bit
- mobile device center 6.1
- Framework etc. is installed
my Hermes:
- HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_V3_WWE_02.10.2008
- SPL 2.10 olipro
- radio ver 1.54.30.10
i have re-installed the drivers and device center several times without success.
What the hell i forgot or what i'm doing wrong...
Are there any tools or drivers i should use?
My friend has a vista 32 bit system. with his pc its no prob...some rndis drivers installed itself and we began to surf.
But in my vista 64, i missed this rndis driver installation......
Please can someone help me, i'm so confused...
Try checking your firewall... maybe disable it to test and see if it works temporarily.
Alright, thank you i'll try it on monday when i'm in office...
Ive no i-net there so i must be prepared, so are there any specific drivers or something i need to download? Or is device center enough?
Close Firewall doesnt really work...
Yesterday, i had a connection for one time...
In Device Manager, there was a "Remote ndis based Internet sharing device"
and internet worked...Today nothing works...
What have I to do in Vista? Should I deactivate some processes like wcescomm.exe? When I do this, It automatically restarts when Internet Sharing connection breaks down.
Could someone explain step by step how to get Internet Sharing work (Steps, Tools, Programs, Drivers)?!?
Thanks guys!
Same Problem
I am having the same exact problem.....
I HAD windows xp sp2 and everything worked fine once activesync was installed.....
I HAVE windows vista 64 bit and the device under the device manages show that its not working... it instals the RNDIS (whatever) drivers but dose not work...
I TRYed windows vista 32 bit, everything works fine..... the device conects with no problems...
SO the problem is that its VISTA 64bit so what would be causing this ???
btw my phone is a WM6 8525 from ATT with Internet Sharing
I need the internet sharing option when im at HomeHome and not at school, so im thinking about taking my laptop back to office depot!
So glad im not alone...
In meantime, in arranged with the prob... I think no one knows a solution...

Tether Dash to Another Phone (TM506)?

OK, this may be a bit naive, especially since T-Mo is rumored to stop tethering on the TM506 in later updates (heaven forbid SIM provisioning), but I would like to tether the Dash to the TM506, like a PC, via BT and only have data on the TM506. I really love my Dash for now and the TM506 has HSPDA 3.5G. Can this be done? Can any additional WM6 software accomplish this?
Bluetooth Dunn
GJSmith3rd said:
OK, this may be a bit naive, especially since T-Mo is rumored to stop tethering on the TM506 in later updates (heaven forbid SIM provisioning), but I would like to tether the Dash to the TM506, like a PC, via BT and only have data on the TM506. I really love my Dash for now and the TM506 has HSPDA 3.5G. Can this be done? Can any additional WM6 software accomplish this?
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Find my thread on Bluetooth Dun, it has the software you need, just install it on your T-Mobile Dash to the main memory. If you cannot find it get back with me...........!
Thanks for the quick reply and advice.
I'll search your threads to find the DUN Posts and post back in a few days. So I quess the Dash can dial to T-Mo 3G using the TM506 modem via BT. Great!
I just wonder if there is a way to configure DUN without it eating minutes. Previously, when I set up connection teaming on a laptop with the Dash and a Samsung T409 using DUN, minutes on my plan began to mysteriously get used.
Is it possible to use T-Mo DUN without eating minutes off your plan?
That Sony Phone Is Now In T-Mobile Stores
GJSmith3rd said:
Thanks for the quick reply and advice.
I'll search your threads to find the DUN Posts and post back in a few days. So I quess the Dash can dial to T-Mo 3G using the TM506 modem via BT. Great!
I just wonder if there is a way to configure DUN without it eating minutes. Previously, when I set up connection teaming on a laptop with the Dash and a Samsung T409 using DUN, minutes on my plan began to mysteriously get used.
Is it possible to use T-Mo DUN without eating minutes off your plan?
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That's a beautiful little Sony phone, I saw it in the T-Mobile store yesterday. I believe it will work, if you cannot find the software, I will PM you a link to the BT dunn software a little bit later. I got to find it also, but I have it.........!
I found it
Look for a PM in the next 10 minutes.........!
The BlueTooth Dunn File
Below is the BT dunn file, install it to the main memory, you still will need the configuration set up.........!
Technology said:
Below is the BT dunn file, install it to the main memory, you still will need the configuration set up.........!
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Thanks, I still have it in my downloads from the last time you helped me. I didn't really need it then because my modded Dash had BT DUN enable for PC to Dash modem. Hope it works for Dash to TM506 modem.
Update: I installed the app to main memory but I don't see a program link or folder in program files. I'm guessing something went wrong but the install was reported as successful.
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GJSmith3rd said:
Thanks, I still have it in my downloads from the last time you helped me. I didn't really need it then because my modded Dash had BT DUN enable for PC to Dash modem. Hope it works for Dash to TM506 modem.
Update: I installed the app to main memory but I don't see a program link or folder in program files. I'm guessing something went wrong but the install was reported as successful.
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Nothing is wrong, it's there, you will not see anything, but it will work, pair the devices. Let me know how things work out for you....!
Sorry, Techhology but I still can't figure this out. The Bluetooth services of the TM506 only list Input Device and Serial Port. Give me a few more pointers. Thanks.
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GJSmith3rd said:
Sorry, Techhology but I still can't figure this out. The Bluetooth services of the TM506 only list Input Device and Serial Port. Give me a few more pointers. Thanks.
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Print a picture of what you are working with on the Sony TM506, I would love to make this work. Another thing did you get the 2 devices paried.......?
Yes the devices are paired. The TM506 sees these services on the Dash: Object Push, File Transfer, Audio Remote Control and target. The Dash sees these services on the TM506: Input Device and Serial Port.
It appears that the SE PC Suite connects to the TM506 through BT serial port. You can also use BT dial-up networking directly instead of BT serial port.
If it were possible to have the Dash use the BT serial port on the TM506, like the SE PC Suite, then it might work. But I can't find any function in the Dash to do this.
I was also successful in connecting two PC's to the TM506 via BT. One via BT DUN and the other via BT PAN. The PC's had internet but the connections seemed very slow.
Do You Have 3g On The Sony TM506
GJSmith3rd said:
Yes the devices are paired. The TM506 sees these services on the Dash: Object Push, File Transfer, Audio Remote Control and target. The Dash sees these services on the TM506: Input Device and Serial Port.
It appears that the SE PC Suite connects to the TM506 through BT serial port. You can also use BT dial-up networking directly instead of BT serial port.
If it were possible to have the Dash use the BT serial port on the TM506, like the SE PC Suite, then it might work. But I can't find any function in the Dash to do this.
I was also successful in connecting two PC's to the TM506 via BT. One via BT DUN and the other via BT PAN. The PC's had internet but the connections seemed very slow.
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Ok, you will not see anything the Dash but the BT dunn file are there. Do you have a BT set up on the TM506?
Somthing tells me this would have been easier with a PPC instead on a Smartphone. GRIN
I can use DUN from a PC to both the TM506 and the Dash just fine. But I can't seem to figure out how to use DUN from the Dash to the TM506.
Many BT profile features on the TM506 are not visible to the Dash. Especially DUN and PAN. The BT serial port is visible but theres no application on the Dash to take advantage of this like the SE PC Suite does.
I've attached a picture of the BT services provided by the TM506 to a PC using the Widcomm BT stack.
Looks like the picture is too small. I'll try to post a better one.
Larger Photo of TM506 BT service to a PC with Widcomm BT Stack. The SE PC Suite uses the Serial Port to connect. Use can also use Dial-Up directly. In the photo I was using PAN - notice the green connected icon.

Passthrough internet on the vogue

Hey everybody...
i been trying to get this to work
i want to passthrough internet to my vogue
bt all the guides i find are using activesync
and i have windows mobile device center
soo there guides don't apply to me..
could someone please help me???
jdm4life said:
Hey everybody...
i been trying to get this to work
i want to passthrough internet to my vogue
bt all the guides i find are using activesync
and i have windows mobile device center
soo there guides don't apply to me..
could someone please help me???
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
1. Setting up a BT PAN
2. Tether your Vogue to your laptop meaning share it's data connection.
jadesse said:
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
1. Setting up a BT PAN
2. Tether your Vogue to your laptop meaning share it's data connection.
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im trying to set up a bluetooth pan.. to send internet from my pc to my fone
I don't think that htere is currently anyway to set up a BT Pan. MS BT Stack does not support it. I believe it is an option with some of the Widcomm BT stacks that I have seen.
jadesse said:
I don't think that htere is currently anyway to set up a BT Pan. MS BT Stack does not support it. I believe it is an option with some of the Widcomm BT stacks that I have seen.
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just use the widcomm stack (which you should be doing already anyways, microsoft stack blows) pair your phone with the computer, go into the internet sharing and set it to bluetooth then connect to your phone using the access point option from the computer and there ya go, internet.

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