Internet Sharing and Vista - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hello, been using custel 2.5 for a while now, probably the day after it came out. Now I need to use internet sharing adn I`m not able to do it thru BT. When I pair my device I can do activesync just fine, but on Vistas BT manager (BT Devices) its not showing the dial-up device. This is strange it works fine with the USB connection, but I really need the BT. Please help. Thanks in advance.
BTW it used to work with wizard with WM6. Thanks

its not a dail up service to start off with its a PAN. second what BT stack are you using? I had the broadcomm stack first and that wouldnt work so i had to switch to the native MS stack and its works fine. If you know how to edit the bt.inf file on your vista machine that will install the MS stack instead of the other stack.

austinsnyc said:
its not a dail up service to start off with its a PAN. second what BT stack are you using? I had the broadcomm stack first and that wouldnt work so i had to switch to the native MS stack and its works fine. If you know how to edit the bt.inf file on your vista machine that will install the MS stack instead of the other stack.
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Doesnt it show up in the dial-up services in vista bt device manager ? so i guess Im doint it wrong ? Is there a tutorial that I can see. I remmber on the wizard WM6 it just showed up as a dial-up device and I just dial it. How do I do it here ? Maybe I dont even have to edit anything, maybe Im just having a senior moment thx for the reply

believe it or not if you use your handheld's help program and search for internet sharing it will give you instructions on how to set it up. and no it does not show up on vista as a dail up network since it is not also search this forum for Bluetooth PAN and there is lots of info

doh I never even looked at help on the phone thanks I see how to do it now I see that on the wizard they used the old wm5 modemlink or whatever its called. thanks again but plz try to be nicer to ppl next time

yozh said:
doh I never even looked at help on the phone thanks I see how to do it now I see that on the wizard they used the old wm5 modemlink or whatever its called. thanks again but plz try to be nicer to ppl next time
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I was being nice!! You should see me being mean!

hehe ok thanks for the tip I can't wait to get home and play

Its much better than WM5 i must say once you figure it out its so easy to use just click internet sharing and connect connect to your pc and your done its so easy

Yeah got it working, works ok kinda slow, I get about 322k on dslreports.com/mspeed while on the phone I get around 800k on the phone it self and about 800 using the USB cable. Any suggestion on how to speed it up ?

yozh said:
Yeah got it working, works ok kinda slow, I get about 322k on dslreports.com/mspeed while on the phone I get around 800k on the phone it self and about 800 using the USB cable. Any suggestion on how to speed it up ?
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I noticed the speed decrease over PAN compared to the USB cable as well. I get way more fluctuations over BT. I am sticking to the USB but it is a nice fallback. Also, for me, Internet Sharing is a night and day difference over dial-up networking/modem driver. It is so easy. This feature is a WM6 gem!

yozh said:
Yeah got it working, works ok kinda slow, I get about 322k on dslreports.com/mspeed while on the phone I get around 800k on the phone it self and about 800 using the USB cable. Any suggestion on how to speed it up ?
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Bluetooth is severely limited in Terms of speed, especially if you're not using Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR

gridpool said:
I noticed the speed decrease over PAN compared to the USB cable as well. I get way more fluctuations over BT. I am sticking to the USB but it is a nice fallback. Also, for me, Internet Sharing is a night and day difference over dial-up networking/modem driver. It is so easy. This feature is a WM6 gem!
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Yeah just wish I didnt loose 500k over bluetooth

anyone else stuck with vista showing unknown device in device manager when usb tethering with internet sharing on mine it seems to work for 5 mins then disconnect and give up reverting back to unknown device. so im stuck with bluetooth

vista 64 bit
Hey Guys!
My first post with such a stupid problem:
i'm trying to connect to internet with vista 64bit using my hermes over usb. but it doesnt seem to work.
Until last week i had win xp sp3 on my pc and the internet sharing option in hermes worked without any problems. Now with Vista Ultimate 64 bit i can connect the phone to pc, sync works perfect.
when i start internet sharing, phone builds up a GPRS connection but after 2-3 sec it disconnects the data connection and active sync authentication starts with vista.
In vista i cant find any modem connection in network settings. The only thing i found was in device manager when phone is connected to pc (HTC USB Modem)
here is my spec :
- windows vista ultimate 64bit
- mobile device center 6.1
- Framework etc. is installed
my Hermes:
- HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_V3_WWE_02.10.2008
- SPL 2.10 olipro
- radio ver 1.54.30.10
i have re-installed the drivers and device center several times without success.
What the hell i forgot or what i'm doing wrong...
Are there any tools or drivers i should use?
My friend has a vista 32 bit system. with his pc its no prob...some rndis drivers installed itself and we began to surf.
But in my vista 64, i missed this rndis driver installation......
Please can someone help me, i'm so confused...

Try checking your firewall... maybe disable it to test and see if it works temporarily.

Alright, thank you i'll try it on monday when i'm in office...
Ive no i-net there so i must be prepared, so are there any specific drivers or something i need to download? Or is device center enough?

Close Firewall doesnt really work...
Yesterday, i had a connection for one time...
In Device Manager, there was a "Remote ndis based Internet sharing device"
and internet worked...Today nothing works...
What have I to do in Vista? Should I deactivate some processes like wcescomm.exe? When I do this, It automatically restarts when Internet Sharing connection breaks down.
Could someone explain step by step how to get Internet Sharing work (Steps, Tools, Programs, Drivers)?!?
Thanks guys!

Same Problem
I am having the same exact problem.....
I HAD windows xp sp2 and everything worked fine once activesync was installed.....
I HAVE windows vista 64 bit and the device under the device manages show that its not working... it instals the RNDIS (whatever) drivers but dose not work...
I TRYed windows vista 32 bit, everything works fine..... the device conects with no problems...
SO the problem is that its VISTA 64bit so what would be causing this ???
btw my phone is a WM6 8525 from ATT with Internet Sharing
I need the internet sharing option when im at HomeHome and not at school, so im thinking about taking my laptop back to office depot!

So glad im not alone...
In meantime, in arranged with the prob... I think no one knows a solution...

Related

?? With newROM ActiveSync never wants to make partnRships ??

Anybody could help me?
I tried everything.
Install and uninstall ActiveSync.
HardReset, Reset....
With the new i-Mate ROM my laptop doesn't want to connect my PPC.
It starts to connect, and it seems almost ok (I can surf between the folders of my PDA, but when I click StorageCard or ExtendedRom folders it starts thinking forever), but it just tries, never connects, never gives me a chance to make a partnership.
Does anybody know what is this problem?
THX,
Tuning
One more thing:
With the same settings on PC but with an older ROM everything is fine.
Help!!!
My girlfriend has a XDA2i which has no problem syncing to the same PC. I get the same message you get " retrieving settings" which hangs for ever until I disconnect.
Another interesting thing in my discussion with myself:
Through IrDA everything works fine!!!!!
Why is that???,
Why it doesn't connect to my pda through USB???
H E L P ! ! !
Problem Solved.
Thanks to me.
Sygate Personal Firewall Pro is guilty.
(Although I setup everything what Microsoft wrote)
It seemed ok, but the problem dissapeard just when I uninstalled the application.
I'm getting crazy...
Microsoft Feardows
Sounds to me like you diidn't have all the ports you needed open, if you happen to recall what ports you had open, and post them perhaps I could spot what you missed.
Can't really say I know anything about your firewall.
dah54 said:
Sounds to me like you diidn't have all the ports you needed open, if you happen to recall what ports you had open, and post them perhaps I could spot what you missed.
Can't really say I know anything about your firewall.
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You may have right, but I opened ports which Microsoft said.
Do you know which ports are these?
The interesting is if you are right, why did work my other Jasjar or with another ROM??? Another ROM uses anorther PORTS???????
what was the resolution to this? I have exactly the same problem having just installed the ROM upgrade. What ports do you have enabled?

WM6 and Linux - Bluetooth issue

I am trying to get my laptop running linux to use my hermes as a modem over bluetooth. So far I am not succeeding, I have paired the phone and the laptop, but no services show up to share. I have sent files over bluetooth to the laptop and that is just fine.
Has anyone else done this? I really don't want to change my laptop back to windows just so I can surf the net using my phone.
Thanks
What distribution of linux and what window manager do you use?
And does the file transfer work both ways? (to the phone and from it).
I might help you a little
Using Ubuntu - Edgy Eft and Gnome.
I don't have a way for files to be sent from the latop, I am using the blue tooth file sharing program - which seems to be one way only.
I did this a long time ago, so I might have forgot something, but let's give it a try.
First check if you have a rfcomm device in /dev/, there should be something like rfcomm0.
And this is there if you have edited and paired your phone correctly!
(you should add your device to /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf)
Try Gnome-PPP, it's a very good program for dialup rutines ^^
Code:
sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
The gnome-ppp should be run in root mode because rfcomm device has no privileges, or then you could just chmod it.
But anyways, I've made a script for myself to turn on BT and start gnome-ppp, to run it with root privileges with the following command
Code:
gksudo -u root gnome-ppp
after that you see a window with username password etc.
press setup and put in the following config..
Setup
Now we need a init string! I have no idea what is your provider and what init string is needed for it.
In the Setup window press Init Strings...
And in the first place you set the string.
With Saunalahti as a provider I have a init string of:
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.saunalahti"
notice that internet.saunalahti is the APN name for my providers internet gprs connections! So replace this with yours, or then contact your provider and ask for that info
Now back to the first window.
My ISP doesn't require any username but you can't connect without them so put in whatever you like for example
username: none and password: none
or
if you need username and password for your providers GPRS, then add them here
For the phonenumber set the number: *99#
Nothing else, that should be it then if I got it all and remember correct
Then just connect (notice that on TyTN there isn't any "connecting to GPRS" popups when you use a PPP from linux).
in WM6, the phone internet sharing no longer behaves like a modem. not sure how to get it working with Linux
joej said:
in WM6, the phone internet sharing no longer behaves like a modem. not sure how to get it working with Linux
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what do you mean, the "Wireless Modem" program that you can find in the Programs folder?
I never used that, there's no need of it.
In fact, don't use it, propably wont work with it.
StewartG said:
I am trying to get my laptop running linux to use my hermes as a modem over bluetooth. So far I am not succeeding, I have paired the phone and the laptop, but no services show up to share. I have sent files over bluetooth to the laptop and that is just fine.
Has anyone else done this? I really don't want to change my laptop back to windows just so I can surf the net using my phone.
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I've been successfully using my Wizard and Hermes as BT modems for GPRS/EDGE/UMTS connections, but only with WM5 (check out my tutorial here: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/20 ). After upgrading Hermes to WM6 I am no longer able to create rfcomm device, and I don't know why.
However, it is still possible to use GPRS/UMTS connection under Linux! I've managed to get it working through Bluetooth PAN profile. I'm planning to write some kind of tutorial on my blog pretty soon, but in meanwhile have a look here: http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-PAN - this HOWTO describes quite comprehensively BT PAN usage under Linux.
Basically, you need to set up Internet Sharing via BT on your Hermes, and then connect from your Linux using pand daemon. Check out HOWTO, give it a try, if nothings comes up - feel free to ask here. Good luck.
Btw, my distro is FC6.
gvoima said:
what do you mean, the "Wireless Modem" program that you can find in the Programs folder?
I never used that, there's no need of it.
In fact, don't use it, propably wont work with it.
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In WM5 it didn't work even with Windows (or I didn't know how to set it up properly). WM6 brings completely new Internet Sharing application which is accessible from Linux without big problems via Bluetooth PAN profile - check out my post above.
I'm planning to try connecting to internet through Hermes/WM6 via USB cable. I guess it's just a matter of installing some usb-driver. It's worth to try, as UMTS/HSDPA connection together with BT drains battery really (I mean REALLY) fast, and also - USB cable offers higher speeds than BT...
Nice to know, i'm using WM5 atm, waiting the official WM6 release from sweden (I live in finland and tried to contact finnish HTC regarding that matter), then I might look into it more.
eva_d said:
I've been successfully using my Wizard and Hermes as BT modems for GPRS/EDGE/UMTS connections, but only with WM5 (check out my tutorial here: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/20 ). After upgrading Hermes to WM6 I am no longer able to create rfcomm device, and I don't know why.
However, it is still possible to use GPRS/UMTS connection under Linux! I've managed to get it working through Bluetooth PAN profile. I'm planning to write some kind of tutorial on my blog pretty soon, but in meanwhile have a look here: http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-PAN - this HOWTO describes quite comprehensively BT PAN usage under Linux.
Basically, you need to set up Internet Sharing via BT on your Hermes, and then connect from your Linux using pand daemon. Check out HOWTO, give it a try, if nothings comes up - feel free to ask here. Good luck.
Btw, my distro is FC6.
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I see your point now, I upgraded to a new ROM and AKU, now the wireless modem is gone and I cannot connect to a rfcomm device anymore. But there is the Internet Sharing application, I'm going to try your tutorial in a moment
What about USB modem?
eva_d said:
[...]I'm planning to try connecting to internet through Hermes/WM6 via USB cable. I guess it's just a matter of installing some usb-driver. It's worth to try, as UMTS/HSDPA connection together with BT drains battery really (I mean REALLY) fast, and also - USB cable offers higher speeds than BT...
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Hi all,
It's my first post on this forum. But I'm looking forward to finding a way to use my HTC Wizard has a USB modem...
I've seen on another forum that configuring this device as an USB modem can be quite easy done on Windows. So it would be nice to have this working for Linux
joej said:
in WM6, the phone internet sharing no longer behaves like a modem. not sure how to get it working with Linux
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You can get it working as modem the same way you could do it in WM5 - using the "internet sharing " application.
The problem described here is that when you do
$ sdptool browse <bluetooth_mac_address>
you see no services.
I have the same problem with ubuntu.
When I browse the services of another phone - a nokia for example - I see all of them .
However I had this problem with ubuntu even before upgrading to WM6.
So it seems the problem is in the bluez version delivered with ubuntu.
What I am going to try the next few days is to uninstall the ubuntu release of bluez and build the source code and install.
I had an issue with synce also with ubuntu - not working. So I downloaded synce 's sources and everything works now.
deyanmf said:
You can get it working as modem the same way you could do it in WM5 - using the "internet sharing " application.
The problem described here is that when you do
$ sdptool browse <bluetooth_mac_address>
you see no services.
I have the same problem with ubuntu.
When I browse the services of another phone - a nokia for example - I see all of them .
However I had this problem with ubuntu even before upgrading to WM6.
So it seems the problem is in the bluez version delivered with ubuntu.
What I am going to try the next few days is to uninstall the ubuntu release of bluez and build the source code and install.
I had an issue with synce also with ubuntu - not working. So I downloaded synce 's sources and everything works now.
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This is mainly because the connection method has changed in WM6.
In WM5 it was done via DUN (Dialup Networking Profile). WM6 Internet Connection Sharing does not utilise or advertise this profile when in place, but sets up a PUNU (Personal Area Network) profile, basically turning the Hermes into a router with dhcp services.
I followed the referenced howto and was able to get my laptop running FC6 connected to the Hermes and auto-assigning an IP address. Unfortunately, though, the connection was not stable and disconnects not long after it was established.
I'll have another read at the howto as I've noticed persistent connection flags that should force reconnection, however if I'm connected to the Company VPN, then I suspect that will continually drop also.
Can anyone post any success stories and configuration/command output that they used to create a stable connection?
Ta
Darren
numanoids said:
Can anyone post any success stories and configuration/command output that they used to create a stable connection?
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Check out my solution: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/40
It actually works stable, however I have never used single connection for more than like 30-60 minutes, yet - I guess.
Btw, works also with Fedora 7.

Bluetooth internet sharing problem

i know there are tons of forms on this already but ive read through them all and cant figure it out i was woundering if some one could dumb it down for me. im having the problem where bluetooth pan will conect and say connected on my lap top and my hermes but then ie can not use the conncection.
usb connection works just fine.
the hermes is running windows mobile 6
laptop is vista
widcomm bluetooth stack from the cd that came with my kensington bluetooth dongle
ive heard the solution is a diffrent bluetooth stack but i tired installing blue soleil and it crashed the laptop in to a blue screen. i tried tobisha and it couldnt recqonice the dongle.
any help is much appreciated thank you
fb.knight said:
i know there are tons of forms on this already but ive read through them all and cant figure it out i was woundering if some one could dumb it down for me. im having the problem where bluetooth pan will conect and say connected on my lap top and my hermes but then ie can not use the conncection.
usb connection works just fine.
the hermes is running windows mobile 6
laptop is vista
widcomm bluetooth stack from the cd that came with my kensington bluetooth dongle
ive heard the solution is a diffrent bluetooth stack but i tired installing blue soleil and it crashed the laptop in to a blue screen. i tried tobisha and it couldnt recqonice the dongle.
any help is much appreciated thank you
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try to use static ip adress
im not sure how to set that up could you walk me through it
I think the problem is that your dongle needs to be able to use the MS Vista stack. I had a similar problem and had to change my dongle in the end, luckily they were cheaper but I had to make sure if worked with the native Windows drivers.
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I think the problem is that your dongle needs to be able to use the MS Vista stack. I had a similar problem and had to change my dongle in the end, luckily they were cheaper but I had to make sure if worked with the native Windows drivers.
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ok im open to that what dongle did you use? and did it come with the right bluetooth stack what one do you use?
edit: k so i was just looking and your saying the bluetooth stack is built in to vista right? i was found it and it dose not seem to see my dongle

cant sync

hi ppl,
after the upgrade from 2003 to WM5, everything is ok but BA wont sync any more. It used to work fine with 2003, I bring it to my friend where we patched it, we didnt sync it there but his pc obviusly saw BA during the patching process.... When I brought it home my PC couldnt sync with BA any more.
When I put the BA in the cradly PC found it and let me explore the BA thru the active sync just like before but after that it report that he can not sync and that I recconect the device, after the reconnecting - same story. Exploring works ok all the time but syncing dont.
Im suspicious about the fact that PC didnt asked me about the new device after the wm5 patch and didnt asked me about the type of the partnership (you know guest and normal)...
Used to try without the firewall, didnt helped, and didnt know how to manage to connect it and sync it via the BT...
Any ideas regarding the syncing via the USB or if someone can me please explain BT sync process...
Can I sync it with the WIFI ad hoc wifi network ? how please ? That could help too maybe.
PC OS is XP SP2
Best regards !
try this...
make sure you have updated your activesync to the recent version. mine is 4.5
1. remove your BA from the cradle.
2. delete your mobile device profile in activesync.
(File-> Delete Mobile Device)
3. place your BA in the cradle
4. re-setup your mobile device.
ty active sync on the PC is 4.5...
tryed to reinstall it, deleted the folder, run registry cleaner, install it again and nothing changed...
Im suspicious that the problem is in BA, when I run active sync there it reports on some kind of info screen "to sync with the desktop computer, install Activesync on your computer and then connect this device. If your company support syncing directly with its exchange server blah blah"... Never saw this screen in the active sync on BA before...
It looked like PCs active sync before as far as I remember....
used to try to connect it with the BT, after the pairing with the PC BA shows the screen with the services that I want to use for that BT connection but the list is empty... Anyway they are paired in that moment (passkey passed)... When I click on the connect with the BT in the active sync on the BA it report that theres no BT paired devices in that moment and that I can pair if I want, I chooce PC on the next screen again but nothing happens...
sorry to hear that.
i guess if you're using BT to sync i cant help you with that.
i know there's a topic here somewhere about the BT Stack incompatibilities.
let's hope someone who had your error find his way into reading this.
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tragedy: life's a windows[tm] bliss... till one bug shows up and eats up your lifespan with stress in bugbusting.
looks like that PC cant read settings of the BA coz when syncing begins, PC report that he is retrieving settings but moment after that he report sync can not be completed succesfully....
Like theres some firewall in the BA which prevents pc from the reading of the settings.
Problem is solved, BA is upgraded to WM6.
always glad to hear someone has solved a problem.
even if my posts didnt helped a bit. ahaha...

BT and activesync

Hello fellows i need a little bit of your expertise, i cant sync with activesync via bluetooth, i´ve searched a lot in forums but i just cant find the answer, jiji
hopefully one of you guys can help me
tnx
chinito74 said:
Hello fellows i need a little bit of your expertise, i cant sync with activesync via bluetooth, i´ve searched a lot in forums but i just cant find the answer, jiji
hopefully one of you guys can help me
tnx
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We need more specifics to your issue, as there are several solutions. depending on which bluetooth stack you're using.
SO tell us which OS you're using on your PC (or MAC)
And tell us which bluetooth stack (drivers) you're using so we can give you the help you need
i have windows xp sp2 and the bt is dell 355 + EDR thank you
chinito74 said:
i have windows xp sp2 and the bt is dell 355 + EDR thank you
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Do you know what COM ports (COM ports numbers) for serial connections the bluetooth stack created. The reason why i ask is, if you know which virtual serial COM ports your bluetooth stack created (ex: COM Port 3, COM Port 4, COM Port 5) and which com port number your device is assigned when you are paired with your PC, then you can go to connection settings in activeSync on your PC and select conection via com port and in the dropdown, match the COM port your device uses when connected to your PC.
Then the next time you connect your phone to your PC via bluetooth, in the services section of your phone (after it scans your PC for services) one of those services should say "Activesync" when you check that and press OK you should be able to freely connect via bluetooth
ok, im gonna do that right now
tnx
in my phone services it appears activesync, but it does not connect, i have in the port com19 and in activesync i have it too but it just doesnt connect
chinito74 said:
in my phone services it appears activesync, but it does not connect, i have in the port com19 and in activesync i have it too but it just doesnt connect
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You need to make the port on activesync either 6 or 7 for some reason those were the only two ports for me that appear in WM I am using 6.1 now. Also are you sure that the computer and the phone are both set up to be "visible" to each other? When you do a bluetooth scan from the computer without using activesync can you see the phone? On the phone you just turn on visibility after you enable bluetooth. On your computer I am not sure. Then once they have both established a connection you should be able to see the phone then setup your comports and select activesync as a service. This should enable you to sync bluetooth by selecting it in the menu from activesync. The problem that I am having myself is that when I try to sync the phone between my laptop work--and home the internet explorer favorites get messed up and i am getting an activesync error between files and favorites. What I have been doing is deleting the device and starting fresh however this sucks but at least i always have a backup either the laptop or the desktop
they are both visible, the problem that i have is that i cant use a 6 or 7 port inmy laptop, all the ports that i can make are 14,15,16 etc. so in my computer i cant open the 6 or 7 port
so its pretty crazy
Heres what you do
chinito74 said:
they are both visible, the problem that i have is that i cant use a 6 or 7 port inmy laptop, all the ports that i can make are 14,15,16 etc. so in my computer i cant open the 6 or 7 port
so its pretty crazy
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Can you use the soleil drivers they have always worked well for me i to have had that problem. I ended up deleting everything and starting form scratch that fixed the problem. And yes that means the drivers on the computer. Also make sure that your not running the dell driver(might be toshiba stack) and the windows drivers this will cause conflict.
I am also having all sorts of bs with the Toshiba BT stack... need to find some compatable drivers.
so the thing is, i have to uninstall de dell driver and install a bluesoleil driver???
where do i find it?
i´ve already downloaded a bluesoleil driver but it didnt work

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