OK, this may be a bit naive, especially since T-Mo is rumored to stop tethering on the TM506 in later updates (heaven forbid SIM provisioning), but I would like to tether the Dash to the TM506, like a PC, via BT and only have data on the TM506. I really love my Dash for now and the TM506 has HSPDA 3.5G. Can this be done? Can any additional WM6 software accomplish this?
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GJSmith3rd said:
OK, this may be a bit naive, especially since T-Mo is rumored to stop tethering on the TM506 in later updates (heaven forbid SIM provisioning), but I would like to tether the Dash to the TM506, like a PC, via BT and only have data on the TM506. I really love my Dash for now and the TM506 has HSPDA 3.5G. Can this be done? Can any additional WM6 software accomplish this?
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Find my thread on Bluetooth Dun, it has the software you need, just install it on your T-Mobile Dash to the main memory. If you cannot find it get back with me...........!
Thanks for the quick reply and advice.
I'll search your threads to find the DUN Posts and post back in a few days. So I quess the Dash can dial to T-Mo 3G using the TM506 modem via BT. Great!
I just wonder if there is a way to configure DUN without it eating minutes. Previously, when I set up connection teaming on a laptop with the Dash and a Samsung T409 using DUN, minutes on my plan began to mysteriously get used.
Is it possible to use T-Mo DUN without eating minutes off your plan?
That Sony Phone Is Now In T-Mobile Stores
GJSmith3rd said:
Thanks for the quick reply and advice.
I'll search your threads to find the DUN Posts and post back in a few days. So I quess the Dash can dial to T-Mo 3G using the TM506 modem via BT. Great!
I just wonder if there is a way to configure DUN without it eating minutes. Previously, when I set up connection teaming on a laptop with the Dash and a Samsung T409 using DUN, minutes on my plan began to mysteriously get used.
Is it possible to use T-Mo DUN without eating minutes off your plan?
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That's a beautiful little Sony phone, I saw it in the T-Mobile store yesterday. I believe it will work, if you cannot find the software, I will PM you a link to the BT dunn software a little bit later. I got to find it also, but I have it.........!
I found it
Look for a PM in the next 10 minutes.........!
The BlueTooth Dunn File
Below is the BT dunn file, install it to the main memory, you still will need the configuration set up.........!
Technology said:
Below is the BT dunn file, install it to the main memory, you still will need the configuration set up.........!
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Thanks, I still have it in my downloads from the last time you helped me. I didn't really need it then because my modded Dash had BT DUN enable for PC to Dash modem. Hope it works for Dash to TM506 modem.
Update: I installed the app to main memory but I don't see a program link or folder in program files. I'm guessing something went wrong but the install was reported as successful.
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GJSmith3rd said:
Thanks, I still have it in my downloads from the last time you helped me. I didn't really need it then because my modded Dash had BT DUN enable for PC to Dash modem. Hope it works for Dash to TM506 modem.
Update: I installed the app to main memory but I don't see a program link or folder in program files. I'm guessing something went wrong but the install was reported as successful.
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Nothing is wrong, it's there, you will not see anything, but it will work, pair the devices. Let me know how things work out for you....!
Sorry, Techhology but I still can't figure this out. The Bluetooth services of the TM506 only list Input Device and Serial Port. Give me a few more pointers. Thanks.
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GJSmith3rd said:
Sorry, Techhology but I still can't figure this out. The Bluetooth services of the TM506 only list Input Device and Serial Port. Give me a few more pointers. Thanks.
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Print a picture of what you are working with on the Sony TM506, I would love to make this work. Another thing did you get the 2 devices paried.......?
Yes the devices are paired. The TM506 sees these services on the Dash: Object Push, File Transfer, Audio Remote Control and target. The Dash sees these services on the TM506: Input Device and Serial Port.
It appears that the SE PC Suite connects to the TM506 through BT serial port. You can also use BT dial-up networking directly instead of BT serial port.
If it were possible to have the Dash use the BT serial port on the TM506, like the SE PC Suite, then it might work. But I can't find any function in the Dash to do this.
I was also successful in connecting two PC's to the TM506 via BT. One via BT DUN and the other via BT PAN. The PC's had internet but the connections seemed very slow.
Do You Have 3g On The Sony TM506
GJSmith3rd said:
Yes the devices are paired. The TM506 sees these services on the Dash: Object Push, File Transfer, Audio Remote Control and target. The Dash sees these services on the TM506: Input Device and Serial Port.
It appears that the SE PC Suite connects to the TM506 through BT serial port. You can also use BT dial-up networking directly instead of BT serial port.
If it were possible to have the Dash use the BT serial port on the TM506, like the SE PC Suite, then it might work. But I can't find any function in the Dash to do this.
I was also successful in connecting two PC's to the TM506 via BT. One via BT DUN and the other via BT PAN. The PC's had internet but the connections seemed very slow.
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Ok, you will not see anything the Dash but the BT dunn file are there. Do you have a BT set up on the TM506?
Somthing tells me this would have been easier with a PPC instead on a Smartphone. GRIN
I can use DUN from a PC to both the TM506 and the Dash just fine. But I can't seem to figure out how to use DUN from the Dash to the TM506.
Many BT profile features on the TM506 are not visible to the Dash. Especially DUN and PAN. The BT serial port is visible but theres no application on the Dash to take advantage of this like the SE PC Suite does.
I've attached a picture of the BT services provided by the TM506 to a PC using the Widcomm BT stack.
Looks like the picture is too small. I'll try to post a better one.
Larger Photo of TM506 BT service to a PC with Widcomm BT Stack. The SE PC Suite uses the Serial Port to connect. Use can also use Dial-Up directly. In the photo I was using PAN - notice the green connected icon.
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Hey Guys, I've been following the cool stuff on this site for some time. It's always appreciated to have people working this stuff out. The default ROM that came with my Verizon (Harrier) is crap compared to the Testra ROM I got from this site.
Anyways, the reason for my post is in regards to setting up the Harrier as a DUN Client to a BT DUN enabled phone.
I have BT DUN working from the phone to a PC so I know it works.
When I browse the available services on the phone from the PC I see bluetooth serial port and bluetooth DUN.
When I browse the available services on the phone from within the Bluetooth manager on the Harrier the only available service I see available is Bluetooth Serial Port.
I tried setting up a 'Connection' using the Bluetooth serial port to no avail.
Has anyone had any success with BT DUN out from WM 2003SE using
BT ROM 1.0.0 Build 3500? or with any other similar setup?
Any suggestions?
Thx,
Ian
1. Copy this file "BTWizardProfiles.dll" to IIs
2. Modified Registry in following:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ExtModems\bluetooth_dun]
"port"="COM7:"
"DeviceType"=dword:00000009
"FriendlyName"="Bluetooth"
iroessle said:
Hey Guys, I've been following the cool stuff on this site for some time. It's always appreciated to have people working this stuff out. The default ROM that came with my Verizon (Harrier) is crap compared to the Testra ROM I got from this site.
Anyways, the reason for my post is in regards to setting up the Harrier as a DUN Client to a BT DUN enabled phone.
I have BT DUN working from the phone to a PC so I know it works.
When I browse the available services on the phone from the PC I see bluetooth serial port and bluetooth DUN.
When I browse the available services on the phone from within the Bluetooth manager on the Harrier the only available service I see available is Bluetooth Serial Port.
I tried setting up a 'Connection' using the Bluetooth serial port to no avail.
Has anyone had any success with BT DUN out from WM 2003SE using
BT ROM 1.0.0 Build 3500? or with any other similar setup?
Any suggestions?
Thx,
Ian
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Woot, It's working
Just wanted to say thx for the inf.
Thanks for the inf,
Ian
First let me apologize for spamming the forums with some similar threads... each time I overcame a hurdle and a new one presented itself, I just began a new thread to discuss that. From now on I will append the initial thread... thanks for your patience.
1. WM6.1 and WMDC 6.1 (vista x64) are not too friendly... as the interface, though designed to be intuitive.... is anything but. I am sure it will get worked out in the future... but now it is one tough SOB to conquer
2. From doing enough reading on the web, though recently updated (12-17-07)... the Toshiba BT stack also does not play nicely with WM6.1 ... as numerous smartphone and PPC users are experiencing issues across multiple mobile platforms.
3. In Vista x64 (this is my personal experience) the only way for me to sync via bluetooth is to drop the Toshiba BT stack and use the generic M$ drivers. However... doing so I lose the stereo and serial port services
4. For whatever reason, it seems that activesync locks up STK (R08). When I disable STK, I can establish a connection infintely quicker. Alternatively... when I have activesync disabled, STK is much snappier and its failure/crash rate drops substantially
If anyone has had similar and/or different/"better" experiences with similar hardware... I'd love to hear about it
OS: Vista ultimate x64
ROM: Kavana/Rickwyatt .18
BT adapter: Kensington Micro USB (toshiba rebadge)
HTC: s620
Poser said:
First let me apologize for spamming the forums with some similar threads... each time I overcame a hurdle and a new one presented itself, I just began a new thread to discuss that. From now on I will append the initial thread... thanks for your patience.
1. WM6.1 and WMDC 6.1 (vista x64) are not too friendly... as the interface, though designed to be intuitive.... is anything but. I am sure it will get worked out in the future... but now it is one tough SOB to conquer
2. From doing enough reading on the web, though recently updated (12-17-07)... the Toshiba BT stack also does not play nicely with WM6.1 ... as numerous smartphone and PPC users are experiencing issues across multiple mobile platforms.
3. In Vista x64 (this is my personal experience) the only way for me to sync via bluetooth is to drop the Toshiba BT stack and use the generic M$ drivers. However... doing so I lose the stereo and serial port services
4. For whatever reason, it seems that activesync locks up STK (R08). When I disable STK, I can establish a connection infintely quicker. Alternatively... when I have activesync disabled, STK is much snappier and its failure/crash rate drops substantially
If anyone has had similar and/or different/"better" experiences with similar hardware... I'd love to hear about it
OS: Vista ultimate x64
ROM: Kavana/Rickwyatt .18
BT adapter: Kensington Micro USB (toshiba rebadge)
HTC: s620
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Never thought of STK being the culprit of activesync issues. Since i didnt have these issues with WM 6.0 . Now i also use the toshiba bluetooth stack but i use winXP and there was a way that i could get activesync to work. (not sure how this would translate to WMDC) here it goes. Basically i created another bluetooth COM port with the toshiba BT configurator. then made sure that COM port # was selected in connection settings under activesync then i opened activesnc on my phone searched for new bluetooth devices and when it found my PC and connected, activesync was one of the options. Trying to go the other way around by pairing the phone starting with toshibas program did not yield the same results, in fact i could never get it to paired the other way around.
very interesting...
I will try the technique with today... usually my issue comes about when the devices cant exchange passkeys... although they are identical.
pudge.... should I set the com port as server or client?
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pudge.... should I set the com port as server or client?
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Do what? the com port needs to be a serial COM port. not a bluetooth DUN or PAN com port
pudgedaddy said:
Do what? the com port needs to be a serial COM port. not a bluetooth DUN or PAN com port
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I gotcha... when I use the BT com port utility it asks whether I want to create a client-side or server-side port
since its serial it needs to be "server" side...
I tried, but still no luck, it pairs.... lists stereo and activesync in the services, but then refuses to sync
I think this is a flaw in WMDC 6.1
Poser said:
I gotcha... when I use the BT com port utility it asks whether I want to create a client-side or server-side port
since its serial it needs to be "server" side...
I tried, but still no luck, it pairs.... lists stereo and activesync in the services, but then refuses to sync
I think this is a flaw in WMDC 6.1
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the only other thing you might try is in bluetooth settings -->security on your device. disable (temporarily) the OBEX security option and try again.
You can also try and create a COM port on your device. When you're on the screen where you add a new bluetooth device. press right soft key and select COM ports. right soft key again and then select new outgoing port. then select your PC (or laptop) on the list of devices that shows up. then add a com port . and it will let you pick com 6 or com 7. Then try again
pudgedaddy said:
the only other thing you might try is in bluetooth settings -->security on your device. disable (temporarily) the OBEX security option and try again.
You can also try and create a COM port on your device. When you're on the screen where you add a new bluetooth device. press right soft key and select COM ports. right soft key again and then select new outgoing port. then select your PC (or laptop) on the list of devices that shows up. then add a com port . and it will let you pick com 6 or com 7. Then try again
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already been down that road, trying to set up a new outgoing com port (6,7) no dice.
I think the deal is WMDC6.1 ... it makes me sad
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already been down that road, trying to set up a new outgoing com port (6,7) no dice.
I think the deal is WMDC6.1 ... it makes me sad
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sorry to hear that. Well since i have the same drivers, i will not be using vista anytime soon (not that i needed this as an excuse to begin with)
I was thinking of perhaps looking for some compatable drivers to replace the Toshiba stack. The generic MS drivers allow me to connect via activesync... but thats all, I lose all serial services (including object push, file transfer, stereo etc....)
I'll be honest though, I have been an XP guy for a long time... but after learning how to tweak, hack and optimize my vista install, I love it.
I'm having trouble that I never had on my Tilt in regards to using a bluetooth GPS with my Tilt 2.
I've always used GPSGate, but I can't get it to make a Bluetooth connection, so I'm trying a SPP com port connection, but when I do that it prompts me every time it wants to open the connection with a dialog like:
Bluetooth serial port
Please select a serial port connction shortcut to connect:
Add
HOLUX GPSlim 236 (SPP Slave)
I already have created the port (com2) in the Bluetooth prefs, and if I select the HOLUX entry it does connect, but it prompts every single time. Is there a way to make this reconnect automatically or any suggestions for the Bluetooth connection problem?
Bump, maybe someone else is interested and trying this. Tilt 2's GPS seems better than the original Tilt but still nowhere near as good as a good Sirfstar chipset.
khaytsus said:
Bump, maybe someone else is interested and trying this. Tilt 2's GPS seems better than the original Tilt but still nowhere near as good as a good Sirfstar chipset.
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Well, i have the same problem as you with my European Pro2.
I allready reported this problem to HTC, pointing out that there is not posible to save the hardware settings on External GPS settings tab.
i'm also interested in a workaround.
Old stacks...
You used to be able to do it with a registry flag. But that no longer works. Just search for BTBrowserEnabled.
Nothing else works either that I have tried. have also placed a call to HTC about it. Using a HTC HD2 WM6.5.
At least if there was only one device it could auto connect. But no that would have far too easy.
Joffa.
Joffa said:
You used to be able to do it with a registry flag. But that no longer works. Just search for BTBrowserEnabled.
Nothing else works either that I have tried. have also placed a call to HTC about it. Using a HTC HD2 WM6.5.
At least if there was only one device it could auto connect. But no that would have far too easy.
Joffa.
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If you find out anything more, please post
khaytsus said:
I'm having trouble that I never had on my Tilt in regards to using a bluetooth GPS with my Tilt 2.
I've always used GPSGate, but I can't get it to make a Bluetooth connection, so I'm trying a SPP com port connection, but when I do that it prompts me every time it wants to open the connection with a dialog like:
Bluetooth serial port
Please select a serial port connction shortcut to connect:
Add
HOLUX GPSlim 236 (SPP Slave)
I already have created the port (com2) in the Bluetooth prefs, and if I select the HOLUX entry it does connect, but it prompts every single time. Is there a way to make this reconnect automatically or any suggestions for the Bluetooth connection problem?
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I have same problem with HTC HD2. EveryTime when I need to use Holux M1000 BT GPS. I must go to BT settings and manualy connect SPP connection with BT device.
Also have exactly the same problem trying to use a GNS TrafficBox FM9BT-C TMC receiver with iGo on a HD2. Pairs fine but then when you try to use iGo the window pops up again briefly but without enough time to allow you to select the com port.
Surely someone must know how to fix this?
Very annoying
Hi, I have a tactical sail program to my windows phone, but this software can only use bluetooth to connect to the system on my boat. My boat only sends out signals over wifi. Is there a program for windows mobile that lets me receive wifi from the boat and trick the sailing software to belive it gets the information over bluetooth?
Martin
no lol. both two total different communication protocols..
I'm not sure you understood what I meant. Is there a program that can take wifi signals and send them as bluetooth inside the phone, to the sail program.
Martin
im pretty sure what u meant..
and i still say no. thats not possible
its like flying with a bicycle , without wings..
impossible
been searching a bit for bluetooth proxies...
looks worth while investigating it
google bluetooth proxy and check the web-pages which pop up.
i'm not a programmer but still i think u can get this idea to some developer to get it done.....
like my idea would be like get the data from wifi means from specific IPORT and redirect the data to a internal COM port...... u can add this port to a incoming PORT in ur application.....
but again im not sure how much this is possible in implementation
jallajalla said:
Hi, I have a tactical sail program to my windows phone, but this software can only use bluetooth to connect to the system on my boat. My boat only sends out signals over wifi. Is there a program for windows mobile that lets me receive wifi from the boat and trick the sailing software to belive it gets the information over bluetooth?
Martin
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Is it possible to use a Touch Pro2 GPS on a laptop via bluetooth?
I wouldnt bother. You can probably get a gps reciever for your comp for pretty cheap. Then you wouldnt have to use your phone at all. Using your phone as a gps reciever and sending the signal to your laptop might run your phones battery dead faster, so if you were gonna use your phone as gps reciever, youd probly want to use usb rather than bluetooth, then the phone is charging and you have your bluetooth freed up for phone calls. But I would still suggest a reciever for your laptop, you wouldnt have to bother hooking your phone up n setting everything up every time you want to use gps
But yes i believe it is possible, Im pretty sure I saw a program for windows phones somewhere, that did send the phones gps info thru bluetooth to comp
It is called GPS2Blue and I never had any luck with it on bluetooth, but have via USB.
i just tried gps2blue again after years , now with rhodium and could get to work both tcp -> com and bluetooth -> com
WORKS GREAT with garmin on my tablet pc. and garmin-pc is even kind of made the way to use it on touch screens.
what do you have for a software?
here's what I have done:
cable:
on PC, install the Czech program called 'virtual serial port for tcp/ip'
Instructions where to get it and how to set it are here: http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2BlueFAQ.html#USB
on pda in gps2blue check TCP and choose com4 (or your gps SW EMULATED com port)
in gps program on pc choose to connect to the com port you just created with 'virtual serial port'
bluetooth:
choose com2 in gps2blue and click ON, rhodium's bluetooth manager should popup asking what to do, create a new port for your PC and go.
there is a little mess with this, it created two com2 ports on pda, till one was asking for a pairing code, the other just get connected. And is not showing them in list, or sometimes showing one, but then not showing activesync port. But nevermind. it's working.