Windows Mobile 5 - HTC Excalibur

Can someone please let me know how I can go back to Windows Mobile 5 from Windows Mobile 6. I am currently trying to figure this out so any advice will help. Thank you.
LiG

there isn't any difference. do the same steps with the wm5 rom as you did with wm6. there is thread here discussing this at length.

lignsocal said:
Can someone please let me know how I can go back to Windows Mobile 5 from Windows Mobile 6. I am currently trying to figure this out so any advice will help. Thank you.
LiG
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I called T-mobile and got my Dash Replaced because I was sick of the restart bug. The one they sent as a warranty replacement had WM5 on it. I just stuck with that ROM.

why didn't you just flash back?
no wonder carriers hate putting out new software. people can't figure it out and cry for a new phone.

lafester said:
why didn't you just flash back?
no wonder carriers hate putting out new software. people can't figure it out and cry for a new phone.
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I take some offense to that. No one has been able to come up with a real solution for the restart problem with the T-mobile WM6 ROM. Others who flashed back wrote that things were missing from the ROM. I am not someone who just quits on new software without trying to figure it out. I troubleshoot for a living and just got sick of the issue, didn't feel like Hard reseting yet again, called My Carrier and they offered this as a solution while they wait for something to come out from Microsoft. I didn't "Cry for a New Phone", it was the solution offered and I took it.

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8525 WM6 cingular exchange

so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?
rzanology said:
so i just called to have a new 8525 sent out. Im running black 2.0 cingy....what do you guys think will happen? will cingular try to power on the phone and see its running wm6? will that qualify as voiding the warrenty? do you think they will charge me for the phone?
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That wasn't the greatest idea you may have had before.
If they do turn it on, they will void your warranty. So, from what I've heard they will more than likely charge you full price for the replacement. ($600 or whatever it is now).
You really should have re-flashed your phone before sending it in... just pray they don't power it up.
(and if you bricked your phone from improperly flashing it, that's the risk you take from modding your phone, and you should have just taken one for the team.)
Good luck!
If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00
jcb_home said:
If you have not sent it in yet, re-flash with the Cingular ROM. Otherwise you will get a bill for $600.00
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I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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I agree with this, but the problem is, where is the original CINGULAR ROM? The "Cingular" ROM posted in the Wiki section of this site is actually an at&t branded ROM. The ROM that came on my 8525 purchased only a few weeks ago (and subsequent replacement) had a Cingular branded ROM (Cingy logo bootscreen, no anmiated boot, Cingy logo/background/icons on the Today Screen, etc.).
I was having issues with the backlighting on my phone so I took it up the Cingy store to have it exchanged. I tried everything I could do to keep the sales rep from booting up the phone, but he did and then couldn't understand how I got an at&t branded O/S on it. Luckily, one of the other sales reps said "Hey, look... We just got in a new Razr with the at&t badge and O/S!!". The sales rep I was dealing then said "Yeah, this guy's 8525 has an at&t O/S as well, but he bought his a couple weeks ago...". Needless to say, I played dumb and quickly made a mad dash for the door with my replacement handset before they could ask any further questions.
Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is im pretty sure im done for if i send it back with out flashing it...they'll turn it on and see a nice scary pic of spawn...no where to get out of that one.
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Anyway, it'd be nice if someone could find and post the Cingy branded ROM. Maybe it's already on the site somewhere and I just didn't see it...??
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Well Cingular = AT&T now so as long as it was a released AT&T rom you are good, though I am guessing it wasn't. You can download the roms by going to www.cingular.com clicking on support (make sure 8525 is your phone) then click on HTC site link.
Once there select cingular as the carrier and 8525 as the model, click software/downloads
and click download.
Easy.
rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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Here is the "official" cingular ROM currently released to the public .. straight from the HTC support website.
Now, whether you can simply run the RUU and re-install this over Black 2.0, I am not really sure ... others will have to weigh-in on that one.
Or goto htcamerica.net and all the carrier roms are on there too.
Allright,
as with the last poster, go to www.htcamerica.net and reflash. Because as a cingular representative, I can tell you that there is a 50/50 chance not in your favor that they'll deny your warranty exchange and send you a $600 phone bill.
rzanology said:
LMAO!!! thats funny! i didnt send it out as yet. Is there a cingular rom available some where? lets hope i can flash down without bricking the phone if there is
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I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...
Wow, I guess I'm sloooow to pull the trigger. Lot of answers already.
Yes, I know Cingular = at&t. However, that didn't keep the Cingular rep from questioning why/how I had an at&t branded ROM. I assume the phones with the at&t ROM will have the at&t brand/logo on the shell. Not a Cingular logo on the shell with the at&t ROM. I assume this would waive a red flag to the warranty repair folks...
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I have a feeling one of the fine folks on this site will know here to get it if you can wait a little bit before sending it in. If not, I'd at least flash it down to the at&t/Cingy WM5 ROM. At least it will be their ROM and the correct WM release. You can play dumb like I did if they question you about it. Just say that's how it came from the store. If they push you on it, say something like, "First, I'm offend by your perveted comment!!! I have no idea what 'flashing' or this ROM you speak of is. Second, are you telling your store sold me a used phone?? Well then I either want a replacement ASAP of I want all charges refunded immediately!!". Push it back on them.
You should be fine putting the old version on. I worked for me at least...
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LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.
If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.
Just got one
rzanology said:
LMAO!!! you're crazy man lol. well...well i got the rom available. so when the new phone comes i'll try to flash it and see what happens. it'll be here in a day or two.
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I recieved a replacement 8525 from Cingular over the weekend. It was branded Att from the warranty dept. So use that excuse if you need. However, i really like the getting offended method. Good Luck!
Here you go.
http://rapidshare.com/files/27707683/HTC_TyTn_Cingular8525_CWS_1_34_502_1_WWE.zip.html
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If you've flashed HardSPL, you'll also need to downgrade to the stock Cingular SPL 1.06.
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That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).
weinson said:
That was the other piece I was forgetting ... if folks really want to get their device back to its out of the box crappy state.
Since I have never tried to downgrade my SPL, I am not really sure how to do it (though I bet the answer is on the wiki).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1188690&highlight=downgrade#post1188690
Olipro said:
you can get round it with SSPL; flash 1.10Olipro onto your phone with SSPL then you may downgrade to whatever you wish
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well good luck with returning it... i cant do it with mine since i didn't buy it from them and don't have the correct data plan. not that i need to anyway since i have a better rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301219
This helped me out alot when I had to Downgrade when I sent my phone in for MFGW work.
There is a STEP BY STEP Guide to down grade to WM5 (orig cingy) and then read more of the thread and it will tell you what you need to do to get the SPL back to orig cingy too. Same should go for IPL if you managed to upgrade that as well.

8525 reverting back to ATT rom

I am interested in trying on of the cooked Roms on my ATT 8525, however I am concerned about converting back to the ATT rom. I would like to use the K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
Can I just run the ATT WM6 install like I did when I upgraded from WM5? Or do I need to do something more complicated?
I am sorry for my newbishness, I do not do a whole lot with WM devices, I am mainly a server/pc/network tech.
Thank you for your help,
Gihzmo
it can be done pretty much exactly the same.
ive actually reflashed an att rom back onto a phone after having several roms, and sent the phone back to get it replaced with the warranty
gihzmo said:
I am interested in trying on of the cooked Roms on my ATT 8525, however I am concerned about converting back to the ATT rom. I would like to use the K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350695
Can I just run the ATT WM6 install like I did when I upgraded from WM5? Or do I need to do something more complicated?
I am sorry for my newbishness, I do not do a whole lot with WM devices, I am mainly a server/pc/network tech.
Thank you for your help,
Gihzmo
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Yes, thats all you have to do if you go back to the AT&T ROM for the 8525. Same as upgrading from WM5.... Good luck and Read, Read, Read.. This forum is addicting...
iKse said:
it can be done pretty much exactly the same.
ive actually reflashed an att rom back onto a phone after having several roms, and sent the phone back to get it replaced with the warranty
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You say pretty much, is there something I need to know? hehehe
This is my work phone so I seriously dont want to screw up
install hardspl first, with that chances of you turning your phone into a brick dramatically reduces by a factor of 2854.23 exactly
gihzmo said:
You say pretty much, is there something I need to know? hehehe
This is my work phone so I seriously dont want to screw up
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XtreMe_G said:
install hardspl first, with that chances of you turning your phone into a brick dramatically reduces by a factor of 2854.23 exactly
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Although you don't HAVE to install hardspl, i've never had a problem just doing safe softspl installs..
Thank you guys very much, im looking for the HardSPL download now and I am going to flash to K's WM6.0 Lite FINAL.
=)
iKse said:
Although you don't HAVE to install hardspl, i've never had a problem just doing safe softspl installs..
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HardSPL is one of the greatest gifts, as XtreMe_G says. Actually I can't imagine not HardSPLing, why take a chance....
I paid $500 buckazoids for my 8525, with the 2 year. Explaining a "brick" to my wife (much less Cingular) when I had the means to not brick... I don't think so.
As a precaution, it's always worth reading MrVanx's Hermes Upgrade Guide
Thank you for your help, I got the new rom on the phone with almost no trouble. I had some issues with my direct push email. But I fixed that by removing the proxy that was set.
This is much, much faster then then the rom I was running before (ATT WM6 release).
The only other problem I seem to have is the weather doesnt seem to want to connect, I looked it up and figured out the code for my city (Danville VA USA) I used NAM|US|VA|DANVILLE
This works if you go through the Accuweather website, but it doesnt want to connect through the phone... anyone have any ideas? The phone goes out to the internet fine, getting email and browsing.
there is plenty of threads about this including this one

Rogers HTC TYTN upgrading wm6

I am new to these forums. I just recieved my HTC TYTN from rogers (Canada) today and was disappointed to find out that they dont have windows mobile 6 upgrade. The PDA has everything I want except this. The more I read on here the more confused I am getting.
My question is if anyone could help me on weither I should try flashing this device with a 3rd party rom or return and get another phone. If I return it I dont see any other PDA's that have all this one has. The HTC touch has no key pad is it any good?
By reading on here its not hard to tell you guys know your PDA's. I dont mind paying more money I just want whats best for windows mobile 6. Any advice you guys can give would be much appreciated.
i have it from 1 year and half and i really cant complain about a single thing
ok, i would complain about the lack of support on publishing new roms, but xda cooks provide enough of them
if you upgrade the phone with the roms you can find here, you will break the warranty, but there s a guide to "refurbish" the phone eventually
and if you follow mr vanx guide on flashing the phone, you wont really have troubles. easier if you use windows xp than vista, but doable on both.
Thanks for the input, I would really like to flash it, I read the guide and flashing seems pretty straight forward but I suppose murphys law is always present. Maybe I can save the current rom and flash it back if needed?
I might wait until tomorrow and sleep on it. I hate to void the warranty on a new device, but I dont see anything else to replace it with on the rogers site.
The reason I want windows mobile 6 is so I can remote desktop onto my servers to monitor and reboot if nessesary when I am not home without carrying the laptop around with me.

Free 8525

Recently I dropped my 8525 and now the phone does not work. Everything else seems to work fine though, just can't make/receive calls, texts.
I have tried flashing several ROMs to try and fix the problem. Any ROm without a radio will flash fine. It will freeze if there is a radio in the ROM or I try flashing a radio. I believe there is a hardware break in the radio soldering.
I have bought a new phone and am willing to donate the broken one to anyone who would like to try ROMS on it without worrying about bricking their phone or for any other development use. Not for someone who wants to try to fix it and get a free phone. All I request is you pay for shipping. I am in the US.
I'll take it PM Sent. I got my 8525 jacked at school and i regret it each time i remember it. I just started cooking ROMs for the 8925 and i have a some friends who would like me to cook for 8525 so i can try it out with this device. Btw, i am also in the US in souther California.
kareem9nba said:
I'll take it PM Sent. I got my 8525 jacked at school and i regret it each time i remember it. I just started cooking ROMs for the 8925 and i have a some friends who would like me to cook for 8525 so i can try it out with this device. Btw, i am also in the US in souther California.
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Ah man, the one person that brought me to these forums beats me to getting an extra 8525... even though he dose deserve it for getting his stolen.
psuarmy said:
Recently I dropped my 8525 and now the phone does not work. Everything else seems to work fine though, just can't make/receive calls, texts.
I have tried flashing several ROMs to try and fix the problem. Any ROm without a radio will flash fine. It will freeze if there is a radio in the ROM or I try flashing a radio. I believe there is a hardware break in the radio soldering.
I have bought a new phone and am willing to donate the broken one to anyone who would like to try ROMS on it without worrying about bricking their phone or for any other development use. Not for someone who wants to try to fix it and get a free phone. All I request is you pay for shipping. I am in the US.
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you can always fix it....it may be speaker or gsm module....i had same problem with magician...and i fixed it
depends on where you are,and shipping, i might maybe fix it and give it back to you if you want
farukb said:
you can always fix it....it may be speaker or gsm module....i had same problem with magician...and i fixed it
depends on where you are,and shipping, i might maybe fix it and give it back to you if you want
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I know that there is a chance that I can fix it, but I already bought a new phone. Also I have been flashing ROMs for a while now and don't contribute anything really. I have been trying for a while to make a ROM but to no success. So this can be my way to contribute. But thank you for for your offer.
psuarmy said:
I know that there is a chance that I can fix it, but I already bought a new phone. Also I have been flashing ROMs for a while now and don't contribute anything really. I have been trying for a while to make a ROM but to no success. So this can be my way to contribute. But thank you for for your offer.
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in my oppinion best contribution is to help others so try it that way...giving up a phone isn't contributing to the comunity...so don't rush
and if you really don't want the phone give it to your cousin,brother,kid,friend,and not to someone somewhere
personally i'm getting into cooking not only because of contributing,but because i need new roms for my artemis and rw6828.and i hopefully will help the guys around...so try doing your best and not tossing around phones
regards
farukb said:
in my oppinion best contribution is to help others so try it that way...giving up a phone isn't contributing to the comunity...so don't rush
and if you really don't want the phone give it to your cousin,brother,kid,friend,and not to someone somewhere
personally i'm getting into cooking not only because of contributing,but because i need new roms for my artemis and rw6828.and i hopefully will help the guys around...so try doing your best and not tossing around phones
regards
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That is a nice thought, but I do not have any hardware circuitry knowledge. So keeping a phone that is broke and breaking it more and then finally throwing it away does not seem like it would be helpful at all. Giving it to someone who does have the knowledge to possibly fix it so they can share the information on how seems a lot more productive.
Hey thanks for the negativity though.
as for giving it to someone I know, no one I know wants a phone that cannot make phone calls.
if possible, u can give it to me...
but oh, us - indo is too long long a way
psuarmy said:
That is a nice thought, but I do not have any hardware circuitry knowledge. So keeping a phone that is broke and breaking it more and then finally throwing it away does not seem like it would be helpful at all. Giving it to someone who does have the knowledge to possibly fix it so they can share the information on how seems a lot more productive.
Hey thanks for the negativity though.
as for giving it to someone I know, no one I know wants a phone that cannot make phone calls.
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maybe give it to someone who needs a pda "only". dont tell them that its a pda phone. lol
arnarn911 said:
maybe give it to someone who needs a pda "only". dont tell them that its a pda phone. lol
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haha that is funny, plus I already did try to give it away as just a pda no takers lol.
I want it!!
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All I request is you pay for shipping. I am in the US.
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Is that all? Give me peace ant let me try on you device. Next step?
sorry colombia7
kareem9nba spoke up first
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sorry colombia7
kareem9nba spoke up first
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JAJA, Ok, my Hermes is frightened again, he knows a new Schap's is coming.
i want it!!
i am florida
ty!!!
sony7771, I wish people would READ the previous posts.... ITS TAKEN..... Almost 10 days ago now..

WHy does it freeze?

My friend wants to buy this phone from somebody, but it freezes after the T-Mobile logo comes out. Any ideas?
isikh said:
My friend wants to buy this phone from somebody, but it freezes after the T-Mobile logo comes out. Any ideas?
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There are many reasons it may freeze. What you might want to do is get a fresh T-mobile windows mobile 6.5 official rom and flash it to the device. You can find those here in the xda-forums or around the net. Hope this helps

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