Guys,
This WiFi problem affects 3 guys in my office, each with different PC's (IBM vs HP) and WM devices (Hermes vs TyTn) and network routers (LinkSys vs others).
It's taken MONTHS to figure out what's going on, but here it is:
- On a non-secured WiFi network, PPC devices can connect to WiFi, their companion PC's connect to WiFi, and activesync works fine between the PPC and PC in every way one could want.
- HOWEVER, on WPA WiFi networks, any PC that has had a PPC device connected to it at any time since the last PC reboot does the following: Network is found and is immediately (5-30 seconds) closed down such that no PC in the office can connect for a few mins, then cycle repeats. ie WPA network is crippled for use by any and all PC's, let alone PPC's. Note that it's the PC's crippling the network, PPC's are all turned off at this stage of the game.
- Provided PPC and PC are not USB activesync'd since last PC reboot, all devices access WPA WiFi network perfectly; the PC's and the PPC's
- A side symptom: PC's list of networks ("View Wireless Networks") will show that you are not connected when you are, and connected when you are not. ie connection status gets inverted.
Clean rebooted PC' all work fine, until someone does a USB activesync and then their PC is screwed and HAS to be rebooted. If they don't reboot, they can go home and their home WPA network will immedaitely collapse as they turn on their PC. Once a PPC has been USB'd to the PC, that PC is screwed no matter where the PPC is, and no matter whether the PPC has wifi turned on or not. We see this when guys come from home (non-secured network) and turn on PC at work, the work WiFi collapses, even tho no PPC is trying to access the network at all.
Once again, different PC's, different PPC's, different WM5/6 PPC ROM's (TyTn WM6 Black, JasJar WM5 AKU 3.5). ALL FAIL ALL THE TIME on a WPA network. We even changed the office router - no better. Besides, we all have different ADSL routers at home.
There are many other Hermes posts where I can see the user is having EXACTLY the same issue, but haven't yet gotten the insight I have from playing with so many devices on so many networks. ie I am not alone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1201280&postcount=12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1202911&postcount=16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1204410&postcount=22
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1204410&postcount=23
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1204410&postcount=26
...
I've been working on this for months and only now fully understand the issue such that I can avoid it (unsecured networks at home, rebooted PC's after Activesync). Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
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Dear All
I cannot find the original CD, therefore I cannot install the modem drivers onto my WinXP laptop. The modem drivers are necessary to use my PDA (Orange SPV 3100 - Hermes 100) to connect to Internet via UMTS - HSDPA
Can somebody help me by emailing these drivers ([email protected]) or posting here or attaching somewhere on Internet?
Thanks a lot
Saulo
I was told that modem drivers are the same for different brands, I mean Orange SPV M3100, or HTC TyTN / XDA trion / MDA Vario II / VPA Compact III / Dopod CHT 9000 / Dopod 838 Pro
Thanks and please help
Saulo866
You shouldn't need modem drivers if using a WM6 rom. Am I understanding the problem? The Internet sharing app uses a virtual network driver that works much better than the old modem drivers. And if you aren't using WM6, upgrade to it. The Internet sharing piece alone is worth the trouble.
I belief installing Activesync 4.5 should be sufficient.
Dear All
On PDA side I have an Orange SPV M3100 (Hermes 100) with WM 2006 Professional: CE OS 5.2.1413 build 17741.0.2.1
I am not sure whether this is a cooked rom or shipped one. I am inclined to believe it is a cooker WM06 rom
On laptop side I have
- ActiveSync 4.5.0 build 5096: it works greatly
- winXP SP2
Now my question is: WinXP does not see my Hermes as a 3G UMTS or HSDPA modem. Therefore I am unable to use my Hermes to connect to Internet.
My APN is set correctly, on the Hermes side: I called my UMTS-HSDPA operator and set my device accordingly. But the 3G operator also told me to contact HTC or Orange to download the modem driver to make it accessible by my laptop. ActiveSync 4.5 alone does not suffice, since it is only for sync purposes. In other word currently:
- If my laptop is already connected to Internet (e.g. via LAN or WiFi) then my Hermes can ALSO connect to Internet, via ActiveSync 4.5
- Viceversa, if my Hermes establishes a 3G connection, or GPRS connection, my laptop CANNOT use it to access internet.
If you know how to solve this problem I would greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Saulo
i have winxp pro with AS 4.5 ... and all i have to do is turn on internet sharing on my phone, plug in the cable and im done.. the computer will automatically recognize the phone as a network connection.. and i have tried this on a computer without AS and the computer wouldnt recognize the phone, so it appears that activesync is necessary for sharing (it doesnt sync with internet sharing on, but i believe AS has the drivers that are needed)
By the way I have 2 Italian GSM-UMTS-HSDPA operators: Vodafone and Tim
I have tried. I have set correctly their APN settings: (for tim is ibox.tim.it)
While on Hermes side everything seems fine, (for example Pocket Internet Explorer can open web pages) my laptop cannot use Hermes to access internet, even if ActiveSync connections is established and working (hermes synchronized)
Please help
On Phone goto:
Start ~> Programs ~> Internet Sharing
you should have no problems.
saulo866 said:
By the way I have 2 Italian GSM-UMTS-HSDPA operators: Vodafone and Tim
I have tried. I have set correctly their APN settings: (for tim is ibox.tim.it)
While on Hermes side everything seems fine, (for example Pocket Internet Explorer can open web pages) my laptop cannot use Hermes to access internet, even if ActiveSync connections is established and working (hermes synchronized)
Please help
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on laptop clik activesync icon in the bar and from "setting connections" disable "allow uSB connection"
then do on ppc what Custel abowe wrote
Thanks to all of you!
Following your suggestions now I can connect using my USB link, between Hermes 100 and my laptop, running WinXP.
I did it by first upgrading to Schap WM06 3.3c
Then making the few steps outlined above
My next question is: was anyone succesfull in using Bluetooth, instead of USB link?
I mean, is it possible to access Internet, via Hermes 100 3G-UMTS-HSDPA connection, by connecting laptop and Hermes via Bluetooth?
Thanks again
Saulo866
By the way I noticed that if you use activesync USB link (you do not need to disable USB connection!) that what happens is:
- if you browse internet in your laptop by using Hermes 100 as a UMTS/HSDPA modem the syncing between laptop and Hermes goes down, stops: the device works as a modem but any synchronization stops working. In other words you cannot perform any synchronization (via activesync) or any other operation, like file transfer, while using activesync as a usb-type-link between laptop and Hermes.
Am I right?
Why is that? I mean why cannot I sync my device (or transfer files) and at the same time use my hermes as a 3g-modem for my laptop?
Thanks
Saulo
any clue why this happens? I mean why you cannot sync and browse internet at the same time?
After connecting to the internet via internet sharing, I re-enabled "Allow USB connections" in AS4.5 nut it still wouldn't sync. I guess at the moment we have to be contented with internet sharing w/o being able to sync Hermes and our computer.
A bit OT but has anyone successfully connected to the internet via internet sharing in Vista?
Yes
Yes I have been using Internet Sharing with windows vista successfully. Once it connects there are no problems BUT it doesn always readily connect and often requires a software reset .
I have WM6 Schap's 3.57 on my hermes 300. The internet sharing works great but when I've disconnected my GSM connection while I'm connected to a Wi-Fi network and I try to use "Internet Sharing" I get the message on my phone: "Cannot connect. Ensure that your phone is correctly configured, service is available, and that flight mode is turned off before trying again."
Probably WM thinks I'm in flight mode altough Wi-Fi is connected.
Is there a way around this?
How can you tell if the phone is using the WiFi connection instead of HSPDA/GPRS/EDGE? (Roaming is a bit expensive)
The USB-modem driver worked with WM5. When I start the "Modem Link" program, windows says it found new hardware. I've installed the driver I used with WM5. I tried using it by calling *99# but it didln't work. Should I call a different number with WM6?
Anyone the same problems and/or solutions?
It does work great indeed.. Internet connection sharing..
Except.. when you want to connect to a VPN.
I never had issues with using WM5/Black as modem. But now.. in the HTC Wm6 (official one) only Internet Sharing is left.
Does anyone have a solution for the VPN connection?
Thanks all!
Arnie
saulo866 said:
Thanks to all of you!
Following your suggestions now I can connect using my USB link, between Hermes 100 and my laptop, running WinXP.
I did it by first upgrading to Schap WM06 3.3c
Then making the few steps outlined above
My next question is: was anyone succesfull in using Bluetooth, instead of USB link?
I mean, is it possible to access Internet, via Hermes 100 3G-UMTS-HSDPA connection, by connecting laptop and Hermes via Bluetooth?
Thanks again
Saulo866
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I have successfully connected to the interrnet via the blutetooth connection.
In your Hermes, select "Bluetooth PAN' instead of USB under the "Internet Sharing" "PC Connection".
In your PC, click on the "Join a Persoonal Area Network" under the bluetooth option and slect your device and you are done.
PS: Your device must be paired first.
I've had the same issue when connecting to my companies VPN, I had to connect to the Tytn via Internet Sharing via Bluetooth to use the VPN.
arnoutboer said:
It does work great indeed.. Internet connection sharing..
Except.. when you want to connect to a VPN.
I never had issues with using WM5/Black as modem. But now.. in the HTC Wm6 (official one) only Internet Sharing is left.
Does anyone have a solution for the VPN connection?
Thanks all!
Arnie
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I have noticed a few people posting about Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) problems with the fantastic new 6.1 ROMS. This is what I discovered:
I was mystified that Internet Sharing was showing as "Connected" on the smartphone but my PC would not get an IP address (some other people report this as getting 0.0.0.0 but that just means that it's not getting an address). Then I realized that my laptop already had an active Internet connection (through WiFi) when I was trying this. So, I disabled my WiFi connection, shut the phone off and then turned it on, and Internet Sharing worked!
I think this is why: I don't remember if this was true in the 6.0 ROMs, but in 6.1, when the phone is connected with the USB cable (and ActiveSync 4.5 is installed) the phone will automatically grab and use the PC's Internet connection. So in this mode if you do any browsing on the phone you are actually using the PC's Internet connection and not the GPRS. So when you try Internet Sharing it creates a "double sharing" problem that keeps you from getting an address on the GPRS network. I think this is a cool feature!
If there is no PC Internet connection then turning on Internet Sharing on the phone works. Now I'm wondering what would happen if I am WiFi connected on the phone. Will Internet Sharing in 6.1 give out the WiFi connection instead of the GPRS connection? Probably not - but it sure would be cool!
Anyway - this is my first post, and here is the signature that I plan to use here:
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Kavana and Ricky are AWESOME!!! I love the 6.1 ROMs on my S620 (formerly TMobile Dash) and I can't thank you two enough for providing them.
Sharing phone's WiFi - not quite
So I tried sharing the phone's WiFi connection to the PC.
I know - why bother? Because it's cool!!! (Actually the phone gets really hot when WiFi is turned on.)
Unfortunately, it seems that Internet Sharing (on the phone) will only try to share the GPRS connection. It doesn't list WiFi in the Connect to... box. But it tries! In fact it gave my PC an address on the WiFi network, but it established the actual connection to the GPRS network. I tried turning the phone functions off but this just causes Internet Sharing to fail completely.
Oh, and a note: Internet Sharing will NOT work properly if you have the phone's WiFi turned on. This is because Internet Sharing will connect to the GPRS network but will give you an address on the WiFi network, which means that none of your traffic will route correctly. At least I think that is what's going on.
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Kavana and Ricky are AWESOME!!! I love the 6.1 ROMs on my S620 (formerly TMobile Dash) and I can't thank you two enough for providing them.
internet sharing implies pc/ppc sharing only right?
phil_white99,
That is very similar to what I am experiencing. I tried this past evening to disable the onboard network connections of my home pc before I attached my Dash. I then attempted internet sharing, and still only got 0.0.0.0s for an IP.
Have you been successful on sharing your Internet connection on multiple computers?
Don
BlueTooth was the problem.
I finally figured out that I could work around the problem by disabling bluetooth in the comm manager when I need to use Internet connection sharing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-385825.html was what clued me in to the answer.
Hi,
I'm using WiFi at home, hosted by a Linksys WRT54GL router running OpenWrt and secured with WPA2/WPA-PSK. Once in a while, the WiFi connection to my Rhodium gets disconnect (phone issue, wifi on my notebook is stable). After this disconnect, I go to the notification list, and theres a notification telling my that theres a new network found, but to connect to the network, I need to enter the WPA password everytime. Only way avoiding to reenter the password is rebooting the device; then it automaticly connects to my network again.
Anyone having similar problems or even know a fix?
Thanks in advance,
Christoph
same...
I got the same problem, and i got the same router as you with WPA2... It's really anoying. Is it a settings issue on the phone or what?
Wifi Issues with Smartphones / PDA WEP and WPA
I've been a windows mobile / smartphone user for about 4 years now. I started off with a xw6700 from verizon, then a Tilt from ATT, and now testing a Touch Pro 2 from t-mobile not sure if I'm keeping it. With each device I've had the same issues. I will explain below what I've found and what I've done to make it as painless as possible with WIFI and my PDA devices.
I currently run 2 WIFI networks due to this issue. I use roadrunner so I was able to about 10 years ago get a multiple IP package, which they no longer offer. I have 4 IP addresses 3 of which I use for my computers/1 wifi network and another I use for a wifi network just for PDAs/phones.
If i use a PDA with WIFI enabled on the network my computers are on using WEP after a few times of connecting/disconnecting PDAs and trying to reconnect I get a problem where the device wont take my WEP key over and over again. I have to reboot the WIFI router, and then the device will connect successfully. This is very annoying since any device I try to add to the wireless will not connect as well. This problem is due to the PDA, now I've tried mulitple routers DLINK, NETGEAR, LINKSYS, AIRLINK, they all do the same.
Now with my 2nd network I use WPA. WPA seems to be more friendly when it comes to disconnecting and reconnecting PDAs. I can use my PDA's on this network connecting and reconnecting for a few weeks before the WIFI router requires a reboot because it will no longer take the WPA password. Again I am not sure why this happens, and I am not sure why it affects WM5, WM6, WM6.1. Not sure if its the hardware of the device or the software, but it seems to happen no matter what WM device I have.
My iphone will disconnect and reconnect to either of my networks without any problem. Unless the PDA screws up the wifi on either network, then the iphone will never authenticate and connect to the network. Seems these WM devices no matter what hardware are really good at screwing up WIFI networks.
Now my findings are every time you put the phone to sleep/off the wifi turns off, it could possibly be the cause for the above, this pisses me off. There was one forum a while back I found someone saying WPA is more stable. I know the iphone does the same (turns off wifi when in standby/sleep), but doesn't affect the router the same as WM devices. If anyone would like to say otherwise then they are wrong/lying to you. I guarantee if they turn off and on their WM device to say check an IM or a TXT and turn it back on a few times they will experience the same problems above, which it seems everyone experiences but no one has answers.
I wish there would be a professional from HTC or HP or anyother PDA maker who will just come out and say they screwed up and didn't want to fix it.
k. i live in the woods and my dsl modem fried from lightning last night. i have a ****ty isp that can only be reachable by submitting a service request via email since i work during their service hours of 12-3pm. i have to wait a week for a new modem
tldr; i need a program and directions that have proven to work'
here's my setup
windows xp sp3
audiovox 6600(camera)
windows mobile 2003se
usb cradle
well, what is your actual problem, connect your device to gprs, put it in the cradle and if activesync is set to accept, that the device runs wireless data connections, even while cradled, your internet connection should work. your pc should simply use the devices gprs then and automatically be connected to the internet. other alternatives (in case that doesn't work) would be, if you have wi-fi on your pc, you can try and install a wi-fi router software to your device and connect your pc to it just like with a normal access point, a freeware to try would be htc wifi router, although i fairly doubt any of those programs run with wm2003, but that should give you a clou, what to look for.
problem: wm2003se has no easy way to bum internet off of, only through the usb cable
sprint is cdma
there is no 802.11 wifi on this phone.
Still looking for help.
Hi, first of all sorry for my english...
This is my problem: I have a BA Windows Mobile 2003 and I want to use it like a modem for my laptop (using gprs connection).
I read the wiki Blue Angel as USB Modem but something is not working.
My laptop OS is Microsoft Vista. I can see the "HTC USB Modem" in the modem list and the port selected automatically during installation was COM4 and I don't know how to change it if necessary. If I launch the "USB MODEM Dialer" in my laptop i can't see a modem available (Modem: <No USB Modem>).
The BA is connected to the laptop using the USB cradle.
Someone can help me?
Is there a way to connect the laptop using wifi with the BA and use the the gprs connection to reach internet? I tried WMWifiRouter but it is not compatible with Windows Mobile 2003.
Andrea
hello and welcome to the forum, there are several options for you:
- you could try -=HTC Wifi Router=-, which is much better than wmwifirouter, but might not work with wm2003, sorry i can't test that, i use wm6.5
- and that would be the next thing, why not try and use another rom, nobody forces you to use such an outdated OS, try wm5, wm6, wm6.1 or wm6.5, you wouldn't have any problems with incompatible software then.
- or, and that might just be the one you'd pick you make up an ad-hoc wlan connection.
the way to do it is:
1. make sure, your pc has all the drivers needed for wireless lan installed
2. ALL of them, forget windows zero config, when it comes to ad-hoc, install all the nifty little tools, you thought, you could live without, because from now on, you can't anymore.
3. then open the tools and make them the default program for managing wireless communication, so that then, when you take the windows wlan search, it does not search for networks, but says, "some other program is managing wlan, windows can't search for networks" or something similar, then you are right and coming closer.
3.a you might have realized, i can't describe all that in detail. i don't know, your wlan device manufacturer, your native language and many other aspects necessary to describe with more detail.
4. on your pc, go to "network connections" right click your wireless device and go to properties.
5. select TCP/IP v4 and click settings
6. set it on manual and choose the following, from top to bottom:
ip 192.168.1.101
snm 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.1
dns 192.168.1.1
adns 192.168.1.2
7. go to your device and call up start->settings->connections->network cards, go to the 2nd panel, select the tiaxclwlan(or something like that) and set the ip config on manual and use these settings:
ip 192.168.1.1
snm 255.255.255.0
gw 192.168.1.1
dns 192.168.1.1
adns 192.168.1.2
8. having all these things set, you can now start your ad-hoc wlan on your pc, using the manufacturer's tools, which should provide you with an option to set up a new ad-hoc
9. select encryption wep and choose a key according to the regulations of wep keys (13 numbers are just fine i believe)
10. take your BA and start looking for wlans in range, make sure "all networks" is selected, and NOT "just accesspoints"
11. as soon as the network is found, connect and enter the key you picked in 9.
12. as soon as you are connected your gprs connection should be shared with the pc. since i am not an expert when it comes to gprs and i don't have my device with me, because i am at work and just can't re-create the conditions, i had to write this all by heart, maybe there are some inaccuracies, but, as always, there are small things to be determined by intelligent guessing or googling
nice work by the way, making your first post this hard to answer, because you looked up things yourself in before.
with best regards,
Chef_Tony
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double post
Thank you (a lot) for the long answer!
1) -=HTC Wifi Router=- is not working on WM 2003, i already tried before.
2) (try wm5, wm6, wm6.1 or wm6.5): i will do it in the future, but I need a fast solution in one/two days. I will try with wm6.5 after holidays
3) I followed what you suggested (not only the nifty little tools, I don't know what they are and where they are). At the end of all I have the laptop and the BA connected wireless, but I can't open gprs connection on the BA. To do it, i usually opened a web page with IE, but if i do it now, IE will try to find the page using wi-fi connection and not trying to open a gprs connection.
The edit button in the forum is not working, so i write another post:
if i go to "Wireless manager" i can connect to gprs and i can see the gprs button green. Then i go to "Wireless LAN management" or something similar (i don't know because I have an italian OS) and i click on "Wireless lan actived" to connect to the laptop. If I go back to Wireless manager i can see the gprs button becoming red and the wlan button becoming green. And i lose the gprs connection.
that is too bad, as mentioned before i am not an expert on gprs, in fact i never used it before, because it is hellishly expensive but i used the other way around often, connect via ad-hoc wlan to a pc, connected to the internet by lan, i even connected to a wlan router once that was not connected to the network, but another client pc, connected to the internet via lan and connected to the router allowed me to go through the router and then through the pc to the net, that was neat, those things are, where i recalled the ad-hoc informations, who would have guessed the BA was as "smart" as preferring the free and faster connection. there must be a way to force it!
i will continue to think about it and hope more senior members have a look into this and maybe advise you on how to do it (although i have to admit, at this point i believe, before a solution is found, more than one or two days might pass by, which makes upgrading a faster alternative again )
Thank you Tony. Tomorrow i will leave home for holiday, and without solution i will be disconnected from internet for 15 days... but when i'll be back i will try to upgrade the operative system.
If someone will be able to give me a hint for my problem... i remeber you that I will go in holiday tomorrow, not exactly now....