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Hi,
I'v just woke up and noticed, that my program memory went from 25mb to 3,5mb. My phone was connected to my laptop and active sync for the whole night. I'm using Artemis Vanilla 2.0. I'v had the same problem with Artemis Vanilla 1.0 before. Is it normal, that Activesync acts like that ? No other programs running. Anyone had the same problem ? One and only solution was to soft reset (closeall and hibernate app doesn't help) the phone.
leez said:
Hi,
I'v just woke up and noticed, that my program memory went from 25mb to 3,5mb. My phone was connected to my laptop and active sync for the whole night. I'm using Artemis Vanilla 2.0. I'v had the same problem with Artemis Vanilla 1.0 before. Is it normal, that Activesync acts like that ? No other programs running. Anyone had the same problem ? One and only solution was to soft reset (closeall and hibernate app doesn't help) the phone.
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dont have the same issue...try a reflash....I keep mine connected all night also also...
leez said:
Hi,
I'v just woke up and noticed, that my program memory went from 25mb to 3,5mb. My phone was connected to my laptop and active sync for the whole night. I'm using Artemis Vanilla 2.0. I'v had the same problem with Artemis Vanilla 1.0 before. Is it normal, that Activesync acts like that ? No other programs running. Anyone had the same problem ? One and only solution was to soft reset (closeall and hibernate app doesn't help) the phone.
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Ditto... Mine's just been gradually eating memory until I soft reset. I thought it was Icontact or mortscript, so I've remved them and am monitoring the situation...
Not sure if this is helpful..but i am using Tomcodon V4.2 rom and i experience gradual decrease in memory.. usually from 22MB to 15MB.. running hibernate usually frees up anywhere between 500kb to 1MB. I haven't seen it dip below 10MB so far
leez said:
Hi,
I'v just woke up and noticed, that my program memory went from 25mb to 3,5mb. My phone was connected to my laptop and active sync for the whole night. I'm using Artemis Vanilla 2.0. I'v had the same problem with Artemis Vanilla 1.0 before. Is it normal, that Activesync acts like that ? No other programs running. Anyone had the same problem ? One and only solution was to soft reset (closeall and hibernate app doesn't help) the phone.
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Yes, I have the same issue. Active Sync seems to suck down a bunch of memory that cannot be recovered using hibernate or clear temp. Also, stuff doesn't work right if I try to disconnect while it's syncing or just in general after I disconnect. I'm to the point where I avoid connecting to it at all if I don't have to. And I use WM5 Storage instead most of the time. When I do connect to Active sync, I notice that it randomly trys to synchonize even when there's no changes made. Slows down the desktop as well as the phone. It's a real pain in the ass! I hate Active Sync now. I now just soft reset everytime I disconnect from Active Sync. I never had these problems with WM2003 - kept my ipac connected to it all night and it never tried to sync until I actually changed something. So I think the problem is with WM6 Active Sync.
Oh my goodness! Just noticed that my title now says "Senior Member" after my 100th post. I had to mark this one
I had the same problem with Vanilla 1.0 or Fracoons ROMS, but with Vanilla 2.0 I have no problem - after two days and several ActiveSync sessions there is still about 23-25 MB of available pgm memory
Well, just came back from work - 9h. My phone was in standby mode, 2 phone calls, memory : 23.38 mb, battery 94%. So it looks like Activesync problem.
Storage Memory Critically Low...
Hi! I think I'm having a similar problem.
I've been using my Hermes for almost 3 months. And I use the Oxios Hibernate and Oxios CloseApps to clear my cache from time to time. And I will reboot the unit every day or two. I practically don't save anything on My Device at all. All my music, video clips and photos are stored in my 2GB storage card.
But today, just out of the blue, I got a warning message to say that my Storage Memory is Critically Low.
When I checked under Memory, I noted that almost the entire 47MB Storage Memory has been used up. I had only 0.68MB left in My Device.
I've tried to do a number of Hibernate and CloseApps in a row. But that doesn't work at all.
Has anyone found any solution yet? Please share!
Thanks!
John
Well, basically try to do a hard reset , because I'm talking about different memory. I'v ment "Program memory", some cain of phone RAM, not the "Storage memory". 3 months is a long time and maybe your internet browser cashe files are taking to much space etc, etc...
jso905 said:
Hi! I think I'm having a similar problem.
I've been using my Hermes for almost 3 months. And I use the Oxios Hibernate and Oxios CloseApps to clear my cache from time to time. And I will reboot the unit every day or two. I practically don't save anything on My Device at all. All my music, video clips and photos are stored in my 2GB storage card.
But today, just out of the blue, I got a warning message to say that my Storage Memory is Critically Low.
When I checked under Memory, I noted that almost the entire 47MB Storage Memory has been used up. I had only 0.68MB left in My Device.
I've tried to do a number of Hibernate and CloseApps in a row. But that doesn't work at all.
Has anyone found any solution yet? Please share!
Thanks!
John
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You're in the wrong forum but I think you need to download ClearTemp application. Do you use songs for ringtones? How many files do you have on the device? ClearTemp will clear all your cache memory on the device, but there's something else going on here. At least that's a start.
heya. i've got 3 questions, hope some1 could help.
i recently upgraded my p3300 to WM6 (official HTC rom) and as i was at it, started to wonder about a few things.
1) in tomtom, when configuring the GPS, i can change the baudspeed (actually at 4800). if i increase that, would a) the GPS navigation while driving be smoother, b) i get a faster satelite fix and most important: c) would the battery last less or same?
2) about the battery... i use very few apps and most of the times i make sure they are 100% closed. i use the calendar, notes and few phonecalls per day. sometimes i turn on tomtom for a few minutes to find a street when walking... but i think the battery life is very short (an average of 1% per hour in standby, more battery loss when using the pda, making calls, etc)
is there any tweaks, programs or whatsoever to see what exactly is consuming XYZ of my battery? and improve it's life?
3) after upgrading to WM6, whenever i start tomtom, i get that logo-splash screen (didnt get that before) is there a way to remove it?
i have many more doubts, but i think i'll leave em for when i solved this things. thx for answer.
zandadoum said:
1) in tomtom, when configuring the GPS, i can change the baudspeed (actually at 4800). if i increase that, would a) the GPS navigation while driving be smoother, b) i get a faster satelite fix and most important: c) would the battery last less or same?
2) about the battery... i use very few apps and most of the times i make sure they are 100% closed. i use the calendar, notes and few phonecalls per day. sometimes i turn on tomtom for a few minutes to find a street when walking... but i think the battery life is very short (an average of 1% per hour in standby, more battery loss when using the pda, making calls, etc)
is there any tweaks, programs or whatsoever to see what exactly is consuming XYZ of my battery? and improve it's life?
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1) I didn't noticed differences neither in fix time nor in navigation smoothness.
2) I doubt that it is possible to measure power used by certain application directly. I had problem with power drain and resolved it by switching applications off and on (S2U was guilty), but it seems to me that my Artemis use more power after upgrade to WM6 to.
any1 got any more comments? which is the best way to track your battery life and improve it? any program around to help on this task?
If you want to compare your device power consumption to my Artemis I'll give you some measurements (not very accurate actually):
When I tested my device while playing 320x240 divx movie with TCPMP, fullscreen, brightness set to max, no audio - battery operated about 5,5 - 6 hours before PDA powered off automatically.
During 8 hours in stand-by (I didn't used PDA at all) it was about 5-8% battery drained, but when I switched Pocket Plus indicators (memory, battery, SD free space) off - after 8 hours of stand-by there was 100% battery (full).
Hope this will help you. If you do your own measures let us know.
Good Sunday
ok, as far as i have seen, there is no application that tells your how much battery each application you run, uses. i guess thats normal.
but, is there something like the windows taskmanager, telling you how much CPU and MEMORY each application that runs in the background uses? i think if there is one, that would give a good start on my investigations.
zandadoum said:
but, is there something like the windows taskmanager, telling you how much CPU and MEMORY each application that runs in the background uses? i think if there is one, that would give a good start on my investigations.
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You could try BatteryStatus
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You could try BatteryStatus
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i'll try it, however i've read somewhere that this program itself is a battery-drainer already?
With BS I had 100% battery after 8 hours standby and I didn't noticed more power consumption while normal use (some phone calls, PIM, games, Internet), but you must try to know how it works on your device. Try it and then write about your findings.
Hi,
baudrate has noting to do with refreshing inverval of GPS. The refresh wrt the satellites is determined in the chipset, and the baudrate is the speed in which the chipset (which is actually an external device) communicates with the serial port of the device. Normally speaking the baudrate for gps is 4800 (it is NMEA norm), but also other rates exist for example for bluetooth devices the baudrate is only the speed with which the serial transfer of data is done. It is in the end the GPS software you use that will determine how fast your position is updated on your screen. It can happen that if you set the baudrate wrong, that the data is not received properly, because the software expects the data to be presented at the baudrate you set, and the device delivers at a different rate (like speeking too fast to somebody). It is therefore important to set it correctly.
zandadoum said:
but, is there something like the windows taskmanager, telling you how much CPU and MEMORY each application that runs in the background uses? i think if there is one, that would give a good start on my investigations.
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You could try TaskManager 2.7 from FdcSoft. It shows CPU load en memory load.
Just add the .exe to the sd card and run the file. Use the tabs to selct Process / CPU or any of the other tabs.
gertaap said:
Hi,
baudrate has noting to do with refreshing inverval of GPS. The refresh wrt the satellites is determined in the chipset, and the baudrate is the speed in which the chipset (which is actually an external device) communicates with the serial port of the device. Normally speaking the baudrate for gps is 4800 (it is NMEA norm), but also other rates exist for example for bluetooth devices the baudrate is only the speed with which the serial transfer of data is done. It is in the end the GPS software you use that will determine how fast your position is updated on your screen. It can happen that if you set the baudrate wrong, that the data is not received properly, because the software expects the data to be presented at the baudrate you set, and the device delivers at a different rate (like speeking too fast to somebody). It is therefore important to set it correctly.
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thanks for the explanation.
going back to batterystatus, i am tetsing it now. specially the overclock tool to actually UNDERclock my phone, hoping the battery lasts longer.
however, as for what i've seen, when the phone goes into suspend, batterystatus sets back to the 201mhz until it is unsuspended. so that's actually useless.
but it tells me enough info to get an idea about my power consumption, etc.
zandadoum said:
however, as for what i've seen, when the phone goes into suspend, batterystatus sets back to the 201mhz until it is unsuspended. so that's actually useless.
but it tells me enough info to get an idea about my power consumption, etc.
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Not exactly useless - if you read e-book or WWW pages your PDA can save power with BS (although I don't know exactly how much).
About underclocking in standby there is explanation from BS Howto:
Could you make the cpu clock down while it is in standby?
There is no need to. Most of the devices are doing this by themself. As soon as you push the power-button (explicitly not a program mapped to a custom button for this job), your device will gradually stop execution of code and clocks the cpu down.
The latter implies that as soon as you push the power-button, BatteryStatus and any overclocking by BatteryStatus stops working.
Some tests showed that your device automatically steps down to 52MHz and maybe there is a state while the cpu is completely stopped (0 MHz) too.
I'm curious what is CPU speed of Artemis in standby. Maybe somebody knows that and will share with us?
After testing during a few days B&B 5.0 I decided to downgrade to B&B 4.3 due to performance mainly (and also due to view style ).
What do you think, guys?
I didn't and am on 5.0, but yes, did notice performance degrade a little, and few bugs with Task Manager, Big Start Menu, and the setting og Gmail using IMAP.
For now I am looking forward to Artemis Touch 4 ROM .... hope to see it soon.
i moved to meschles vanilla 4.01 due to B&B 5.0 doing stupid things e.g. phone keeps turing itself on, reandomly soft resets etc. - and i had flashed it quite a few times.
waiting for Touch 4.0...
B&B 5.0 is very slow.
I can't agree with you guys that B&B v5 is slow. I make comparison this two roms with coreplayer benchmark, and Vanilla 4.01 is only ~2% faster than B&B v5, so this isn't too much IMHO.
Yeah, maybe I should be more clear. The GUI responsiveness of B&B 5.0 is very poor (slow). If somebody is calling me, it takes about 8 seconds for the phone to start ringing and few seconds more to display who is calling. Also the icons on start menu and settings load very slow. Sending SMS messages takes longer too. Programs load slow but when they are running, the speed is the same as on other ROMs. I guess becouse this depends on CPU speed which we all have the same.
I agree with you
- Battery lifetime is much less with B&B 5
- GUI is acting strange sometimes
rib0n said:
Yeah, maybe I should be more clear. The GUI responsiveness of B&B 5.0 is very poor (slow). If somebody is calling me, it takes about 8 seconds for the phone to start ringing and few seconds more to display who is calling. Also the icons on start menu and settings load very slow. Sending SMS messages takes longer too. Programs load slow but when they are running, the speed is the same as on other ROMs. I guess becouse this depends on CPU speed which we all have the same.
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mine work like charm. it could due to some application you installed. Download this Task Manager and check which program take up CPU time during problematic situation (e.g. phone ring)
I guess WM6.1 is too much for our Artemis
I was thinking of downgrading to 4.3 from 5 due to all the bugs (such as phone getting stuck after entering standby mode whilst running a full screen app/game). I think Tom rushed B&B 5.0, and therefore did not test it, which has caused all these problems.
Instead of going back to 4.3, i decided to switch to Meschle's new Vanilla rom, and it works perfectly so i'll probably be staying with this until his full artmeis touch 4 rom comes out.
I think tom and meschle should join forces, making a fast, well performing (meschle) rom with good applications with an awesome GUI (tom).
I have a problem that applications that run in background are sometimes killed automatically.
When an application is running, I start another application and after closing the second application the first application is closed too.
For example:
OZI-Explorer is running. I start the camera to take a picture. While the camera is running I can see that the GPS-LED (OZI uses GPS) stops flashing. So OZI Explorer was killed in background. After closing the camera OZI-Explorer is gone.
Sometimes I only run a game like vexed. S2U comes up to lock the screen. After Unlock vexed is closed.
Program memory is not the problem. I have more than 13M sometimes near 20M when more than 1 application is running and the problem occurs.
I found out 2 things:
- Direct after soft reset the problem does not occur, but after a while of
usage.
- all WM6.1 roms with a higher build number than Artemis touch 4.02 have this problem.
In 4.02 or lower the problem never occurs.
Does anyone have this problem too?
Andre
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Keep an eye on free ram! even 13 mb is not enough for smooth running. especially for gps.
when the level of it is low, OS close applications automatically.
With Artemis Touch 4.02 I had less program memory than now, but the problem NEVER occured.
I use sashimi - so on every ROM I use, the installed programs are the same.
Sometimes the problem occurs with 20M free program memory.
I have no idea anymore.
I like the new rom from Tom (Oops) cause it's faster than 4.02, but I think I've to return to 4.02.
br
Andre
I found something:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\TastManager\EnableAutoKill = 1
Can this be the problem? I'll set the value to 0 and test.
br
Andre
I think I have it.
With search after EnableAutoKill I found this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373128&page=2
br
Andre
tom' rom have a pagepool less than on vanilla - this can make a problem on his roms....
Problem solved
The problem is solved. It's really the terrible HTC Task manager.
If Autokill is enabled the task manager kills background applications if the free memory is under 9MB.
The pagepool is not the Problem cause Vanilla has the smallest PP size (5MB) - only indirect cause the free memory could be higher ;-).
I watched that sometimes a windows thread uses for only a very few seconds much memory. The free program menory fells from 18 suddenly to 9MB and returns immediately to 18MB. These few seconds are enough for the taskmanager to kill applications, but you don't realize that the memory was low.
After disabling this feature the system runs optimal.
regards
Andre
Folks,
Does anyone know how to disable WinMo's Autoclose feature on the Rhodium? It seems as soon as I have a large number of programs running on Stock Tmobile WinMo 6.1 it starts to automatically close down some, which is a problem.
Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
This can be done with Advanced Config tool. Under "HTC Task Manager" you can disable "Autokill".
However, I have no doubts that this is a bad idea. Your programs are closing because they're using up your available RAM. So if you disable autokill, your device will most likely just lock up and you'll have to soft reset.
Thank you for the note, has anyone tried to disable this function, will it really freeze the device under high usage?
I tried to open as many application as possible and got up to around 80% CPU usage before the application started closing automatically, but I feel I can squeeze more out of the device by disable AutoKill.
Any thoughts?
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This can be done with Advanced Config tool. Under "HTC Task Manager" you can disable "Autokill".
However, I have no doubts that this is a bad idea. Your programs are closing because they're using up your available RAM. So if you disable autokill, your device will most likely just lock up and you'll have to soft reset.
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mail_e36 said:
Thank you for the note, has anyone tried to disable this function, will it really freeze the device under high usage?
I tried to open as many application as possible and got up to around 80% CPU usage before the application started closing automatically, but I feel I can squeeze more out of the device by disable AutoKill.
Any thoughts?
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Haha, seems like you might want to talk with this guy.
It also happens with my Hermes and Raphael..
It also happens with my Hermes and Raphael..
My Hermes (Dopod 838 pro) running official WM6 ROM
My Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) running stock WM6.1 ROM (Version 1.9)
It's a big problem, I can't keep my Twitter,downloader, and Messenger app to run at the background..
I have disabled the "auto kill" in HTC Task Manager with "Andvanced Config"..
I also have change the "memory thereshold" to 0 MB, then tried 1 MB, but the problem still there..
And this guy.. (me..) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575663
Yeah, sucks. I dunno if the Rhodium sudddenly launches a bunch of programs every X minutes? Where would that be besides in the notifications? I have lots of calendar entries, so kinda difficulty to look through that on my Tilt 2.
I can get mine down to 23-24 processes (minus a few standard things, but plus arielbattery, s2u2, a couple misc things) so one would THINK that gives you 8 or so free slots so if you're just running 2-3 more things no problem but that's NOT the case.. It seems like no matter what if you're running a few 'large' things, something goes.
In my case, I run Flexmail from 0800 to 23:30 and if I run 1-2 more things, Flexmail exits. Very annoying. I once wrote a Mortscript to detect this and re-run Flexmail, but guess what happens... Flexmail runs, one of the other programs exit. Sigh.
At one point I disabled autokill, reduced some memory cache stuff, etc... Nothing helps unless I exit several of my background apps and free up more slots.
Anyone know of anything that could monitor background processes, like battlog does battery info? Like it'd be interesting to see a snapshot every 1s of number of processes running or something.. be interesting to see if it's 22,22,22,30,22,22 all of a sudden.
BTW, I don't run TF3D, I run my Today screen stuff I did in 6.1.. PocketPlus, PhoneAlarm, GPSToday, PocketWeather, TodayAgenda..
I never had these problems on my Tilt, as I describe in my thread above.. With the same number of processes at 'idle', but with only 25-40M of ram free vs my Tilt 2 at 70-85M free my Tilt 2 drops programs constantly.
If I didn't see Flexmail exit (not *crash*) I'd think programs are crashing and there's some serious OS bug or something but Flexmail clearly cleanly exits..
Very effing annoying, I'm hoping someone can figure this out at some point. Perhaps I should try a cooked ROM, although otherwise I have no problems with my current ROM.