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hi there
i wondered if someone can make some virtual buttons and nav pad at the bottom of screen so that we can use it in games and other programs
cause all u know that the devise realy lacks the d-pad!!
(something like what HD has in its standard keyboard but more applicable)
for example make a virtual input keyboard but without any alphabetic buttons! instead only nav and some big usefull buttons!
it would make a real change in hd's programing and gameing!!!
thanx in advance
i put some pics for an idea !! sorry for bad quality
thats no problem... emulators have that. problem is that the touch hd don't have multitouch... you have the choice... move ... or jump! that means no jumping forward with sonic or mario...
navigationkeyboard is already integrated in touchpal 3.5.
Ohhh, and this whole time I thought the only thing stopping people from playing games which require hardware input was the lack of a decent software input! Does this mean that the HD will never be able to play games which require more than one input at the same time e.g. racing games (accelerate and steering for example)?
That is such a shame
volume up = speed
volume down = break
virtual touch pad = driving around
See this thread for a great work-in-progress to address this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466002
NoModE said:
volume up = speed
volume down = break
virtual touch pad = driving around
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Never thought of that! Does that mean you could run a game at VGA resolution with the virtual D-Pad at the bottom of the screen (480x160 pixels)?
Can I say bluetooth gamepad?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/12/bgp100_bluetooth_gamepad_for_phones.html
gadgetuk437 said:
Can I say bluetooth gamepad?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/12/bgp100_bluetooth_gamepad_for_phones.html
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whu pay 88$ when you can pay less... just found this on a quick ebay search
that's not just for games!! it's needed in every program like file explorer and etc. to navigate through files!! u cant select a file with fingers without being run! or while typing or etc.
i know the org. keyboard has it ,but something more comfortable!! dude!
gadgetuk437 said:
Can I say bluetooth gamepad?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/12/bgp100_bluetooth_gamepad_for_phones.html
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The Touch HD won't fit in that chainpus gamepad unless you chop it apart and mod it to extend further. I saw a thread somewhere else where someone did that, but that's way beyond my ability. I'm considering a Wii controller. Would just need some way to attach it. Maybe just a small clipboard to rest them both on or something.
defcon2000 said:
thats no problem... emulators have that. problem is that the touch hd don't have multitouch... you have the choice... move ... or jump! that means no jumping forward with sonic or mario...
navigationkeyboard is already integrated in touchpal 3.5.
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No and no.
It is a problem. It is in emulators (i have myself draw dpad in morphgear) but it doesnt exist for normal VGA games.
and you are wrong about that multitouch problem. There can be place between up arrow and right arrow which will work as right up button. Also if you click on 2 places on HD, it will touch the centre of the points you touched, so it is basically multitouch
Well maybe with the increasing number of these devices having larger screens and no physical buttons someone will start coming out with more controllers.
What about an analogue slider input, like the joystick on the PSP? IMO that would be really cool.
Is is possible to do multi-touch in HD?? Coz if it is possible, it would be excellent. Getting better than iphone OS
lunatic_silf said:
Is is possible to do multi-touch in HD?? Coz if it is possible, it would be excellent. Getting better than iphone OS
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In short, no.
jake_tenfloors said:
In short, no.
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Thats not correct because somewhere here on the forum I have seen a gameboy emulator software for the Touch HD with Multitouch support and all people says there that it works perfect!
If I´ve time I´ll look for a link to this thread later!
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In short, no.
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There are some pseudo multi-touch apps out there that mimic the effect of multi-touch:
basically if you pressed both edges of the screen windows records a keypress somewhere in the middle
so if you had a four way d-pad arrangement with a couple of fire buttons you can 'sort of' emulate multi-touch by capturing a press that registers inbetween say the up and fire button.
see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489147
i have even managed to reproduce this simple behaviour in a .net test app.
i also read an article where the hardware of the G1 (yes i know that not a touch HD) was multi-touch capable but the device driver for the screen was not and some clever chappy was attempting to write a driver that would give the point pressed and a radius allowing the 'pinch' style zoom gesture of the fruitPhone.
and if you google for that there are several other even more successful attempts at bringing multi-touch to the G1.
it seems that with that phone the initial limiting factor was actually the OS not supporting multi-touch
winMo also does not support multi-touch....
so this begs the question is the HD hardware capable with a little device driver / OS hacking ???????
anyone????
The game emulator only simulates multi-touch by averaging the point between your two touches. So touching the left side of the screen and the right side of the screen registers as touching in the middle of the screen.
This works for the game emulator (Morphgear is the one they've done this with) because you can make virtual game pads that have hidden buttons. So touching on the virtual up button and touching the virtual A button registers as touching in between them allowing you to have a hidden virtual button at that spot that does the up+jump action.
It's not real mutli-touch, but very well done and handy for that specific purpose.
edit: Beat me by seconds, purec0de
silf there is the search function anyway eh
I know that it is kinda possible, but you've all said "emulates" & "simulates". Thus it not true multi touch like the iphone.
Please remember this is the same guy asking if we can install OSX on the touch HD.
So far, the answer is a simple "no" (e.g.: ditto to jake_tenfloors)
Remember that the HD has a resistive screen whereas the iPhone has a capacitive screen.
There are rumours of companies developing drivers and software packages to get a true multi-touch for resistive screens, however, Windows Mobile 6 (including 6.1, 6.5) doesn't have support for multi-touch.
So unfortunately for us HD users (or Diamond or devices without hardware buttons), we'll have to make do without.
why would you want to install osx on the hd. would you not just buy an iphone or as so perfectly described in a previous post, fruitPhone.
purec0de said:
so this begs the question is the HD hardware capable with a little device driver / OS hacking ???????
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Simply: No.
dlaponin said:
why would you want to install osx on the hd. would you not just buy an iphone or as so perfectly described in a previous post, fruitPhone.
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Coz iphone has terrible hardware specification compare to HD.....
lunatic_silf said:
Is is possible to do multi-touch in HD?? Coz if it is possible, it would be excellent. Getting better than iphone OS
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No, however I made proof of concept software which emulates some multitouch features on any single touch screen. You can zoom in/out by pinching as well as rotate objects. It can also recognize whether you are touching with just one finger or two. So for example you can pan picture around with one finger and skip to next picture if you drag it with two fingers. This is not hw specific and works on ANY single touch device, including touchpad on your laptop and various touch screen computers.
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No, however I made proof of concept software which emulates some multitouch features on any single touch screen. You can zoom in/out by pinching as well as rotate objects. It can also recognize whether you are touching with just one finger or two. So for example you can pan picture around with one finger and skip to next picture if you drag it with two fingers. This is not hw specific and works on ANY single touch device, including touchpad on your laptop and various touch screen computers.
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any chance of posting this for us to play with??
+1 I too would like to have such a thing, even if its only for album.
hi mate i agree with purec0de...is there a chance of posting this simply because it sounds like a very nice piece of software and we would be very grateful if you choose to share it.
thx in advance if u plan to post
I too wrote a limited multitouch (MT) demo but the problem was how to map it into existing programs... there are no standard event handlers for MT in current WiMo... this changes with WiMo 7.0 next year. Bottom line you can write a custom application that does a pretty good job of acting like its MT but it is a stand-alone application (read: does not integrate with HTC Album etc)
Please post this multitouch Demos... it would be realy nice to test it
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone knows of a tweak that lets you use the keyboard on games and emulators such as Morphgear or other apps to simulate hard keys. I had a look on the Touch Pro forum and came across a nice program that enables you to use certain keys for Morphgear, the downside is that some of the keys get a little mixed up which I assume is a compatibility problem or hardware difference. But the concept is there. It's just that with the lack of a D-Pad making use of the keyboard for things other than typing would be really useful. If there isn't one out yet, do you think someone will come up with one in time.
Link to the Touch Pro tweak - I've tested it and other than than the keys get a bit mixed up it works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425646&highlight=morphgear
Hi, when you tested the kfortouchpro app on your Rhodium was it playable?
disable eT9 and it works
Hi,
disable eT9 and it works:
You want to disable eT9. Go into the registry and change to this:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
"Layout Text"="COMP IME"
"Ime File"="compime.dll"
then soft reset. that disables eT9 and leaves you with the windows mobile standard IME.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469486
Than you can remap buttons with ae button.
I had the same problem, my first solution was described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531823
with the ability to kept eT9, but it wont work with emulators like Gen PPC.
Hope it helps you.
I downloaded KforTP (do a search, can't remember where from). You can select the kb setting you want without having to soft reset. Works perfectly for me when using the smartgear emulator.
Thanks Bub3D. I tried your first solution and it worked, at least in morphgear - genpp doesn't seem to recognise the keys on one side of the keyboard.. Just out of interest, have I actually disabled anything that I might use? Everything seems to work, but what does eT9 do?
I have tried GenPP unsuccessfully. Morphgear SNES works but not the genesis module. Anyone any ideas? It seems to load up games but then black screen when it gets past the title screens. Also crashes the device sometimes when doing this.
I'd happily pay good money for a decent genesis emulator on the TP2 if anyone knows of any.
I'm looking into a new phone and one thing I would really like is the ability to play old games such as those found on MAME, SNES, and GBC. Unfortunately, the state of Windows Mobile game emulation has not progressed much in the past two years. With many phones now abandoning the D pad and screen resolution now higher than what some emulators can manage, programs that worked marginally for my 8125 are reported not working on newer devices. As WM moves on to WM7, I left wondering if any emulators will be left. I noticed that the Iphone and Android phones have emulation development ongoing. Perhaps it is the challenge of getting something to work on something new. I have no programming skills whatsoever so I'm left tapping away on a keyboard lamenting the fact that my next probable phone won't be as fun as I had hoped (since other phones do not suit my productivity needs or exceed my budget for overall cost of ownership). Hopefully, some of these tweaks listed above will work for the TP2 for AT&T's version.
kfortouchpro is NOT needed on this device for morphgear...
in morphgear:
o go to any button config screen
o when assigning the buttons hold down CONTROL while hitting the key
o go to global options menu
o enable 'polling' method
o enjoy!
SmartGear also works without any special tricks at all.
home: http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/SmartGear.html
youll want to go through the forums to get the REAL latest version:
http://www.modaco.com/content-page/...o-gameboy-emulator-for-sp-beta-test/page/940/
I've got a question. I'm using Morphgear, but I can't play some games, because I don't have multitouch on my phone. That's why I can't do, for example, uppercut in Mortal Kombat, which requires two buttons pressed at the same time. I would like to map some button to the buttons on my phone - for example red headphone, green headphone, the volume buttons, etc. It would be great. I tried some applications like AE Button or Dred Sensor, they work with typical using the phone, but not in Morphgear. When I try to map the keys in options, it looks like the are mapped, but they don't work in any game. Is it possible to do that? I don't want to buy external bluetooth controller, I want to use the buttons on my phone.
kamiledi15 said:
I've got a question. I'm using Morphgear, but I can't play some games, because I don't have multitouch on my phone. That's why I can't do, for example, uppercut in Mortal Kombat, which requires two buttons pressed at the same time. I would like to map some button to the buttons on my phone - for example red headphone, green headphone, the volume buttons, etc. It would be great. I tried some applications like AE Button or Dred Sensor, they work with typical using the phone, but not in Morphgear. When I try to map the keys in options, it looks like the are mapped, but they don't work in any game. Is it possible to do that? I don't want to buy external bluetooth controller, I want to use the buttons on my phone.
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to get mine to work i simply mapped the keys using the on screen(pop-up form the bottom) keyboard rather than the physical keyboard. it then worked on the physical keyboard. I got this method somewhere on the forums not sure where.
So, you mapped the keys to the keyboard and then you were able to use for example volume buttons on the phone to control the game? That's what I want to do.
I was wondering if anyone with a Touch Pro2 could confirm functionality of a piece of software for me.
I wanted to know if binding Keyboard keys in the buttons configuration menu of Gnuboy Pocket and Pocket GBA emulators worked at all.
This is the real deal breaker for me as I use my phone, currently HTC Touch, alot for hand held gaming while im on the bus or skytrain. But ive grown sick of touch screen only for normal phone functions(also Touch can be a laggy biotch at times). the lack of a directional pad on the touch pro2's face means ill be using keyboard keys to play instead so need to know if they'll even bind
incase you are too lazy to google to check
Pocket Gnuboy
Pocket GBA
Hi Friend,
Sounds like you have the T-moblie stock rom to me!!
and yes, your questions has many times on this forum, but to answer your question; get registry editor & pre-pare edit the following:
Locate this path;
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409]
Now your going to edit and remove eT9 in both files below to:
"Layout Text"="COMP IME"
"Ime File"="compime.dll"
Now you edit any key for emulation!
thanks for the reply but I dont own an HTC Touch Pro2 yet.
I have an HTC Touch Elfin from Singapore lol
your registry edit is it needed in order to make keyboard keys usable with the gameboy emulators?
I use pocket Gnuboy and the keyboard mapping works absolutely fine
John Charles said:
I use pocket Gnuboy and the keyboard mapping works absolutely fine
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yea, the mapping works all fine.. but i can't get any of these emulators to proparly stay landscape AND have the keys workm it's always one or the other.
thanks for the responses guys.
if HTC doesnt release a new winmo with QWERTY and android still has crap emulators by February ill be getting one of these
@Taurmindo
On pocket gnuboy go to preferences and then uncheck 'Draw with GAPI'. Map your keys as normal and you should have both.
dregnox said:
thanks for the responses guys.
if HTC doesnt release a new winmo with QWERTY and android still has crap emulators by February ill be getting one of these
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according to the leaked 2010 roadmap, there is another landscape qwerty coming out, but it's 3" and wQvga, so... If you were hoping for a better device, it wasn't on that release.
Frankly I'm surprised there hasn't been a snapdragon landscape qwerty leaked. I guess they want to finish milking the TP2 first.
It works
I've already got Gnuboy working, and Morphgear, the SNES module so far. the key mapping problem can be fixed with a cab, dutty xt9 fix or something, it's on this forum, I can't remember where I found it.
hey anyone konws what are the original values?i sort of screwed up my phone!
yes answers please...
yes...?
no! I don't think so because you have a touch screen ... its there for a reason, so you can use you finger as "a cursor pointer"
Its not impossible for a cursor hack to be coded but I don't think anyone will make one just because its as useless as it seams.
Just an example of where you could need a cursor --> adverputt.com (awesome flashgame) Furthermore you cant "hover" with your finger, just scroll and select things. Some webpages just require to move a mousepointer over an item to highlight things/mark items and so on.
windows had that so why not android its supposed to be better
Or if you want to use megavideo with froyo....it would add more usability. Im getting mad to raise volume Or click on certain timecode of video.
I agree that there are occasions where where using the track pad as a cursor would be better as touch isn't always as accurate as it needs to be.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
so, no one interested? i mean in user approach. if so, please post to let people know...it has been readed by 354 till now...
people were able to enable mouse cursor pointer with a bluetooth mouse on the N1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711268
maybe that could be possible with a touchpad ? any idea ?
(I am interested because I may buy a Desire Z [tmobile g2] soon and I think keyboard + touchpad with mouse cursor pointer might be interesting)