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Back when I had the base Cingular WM5 rom on my phone I was able to talk on the phone and have my data connection going at the same time. Since upgrading to WM6, XDA Live .20 and Black 2.0 I have not been able to get that feature back. To make a call it has to disconnect me. Then once I get off the phone call the data connection connects again. I tried the Allways On option in HTweakC that came with the WM6 releases but that doesn't appear to be what I am looking for. Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
My device maintains a data connection whilst I am on voice calls. I receive emails fine whilst talking. Its on Black 2.0
KanosWRX said:
Does anyone else notice this or have a fix?
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yes.. try your phone and data in a 3G area... voice and data only works in 3G not edge......
I have tried it in a 3G area, right by my work I have 4 bars of 3G. But everytime I try to call or get a call it always closes the data connection.
try using bandswitch and manually fixing the phone to 3G only.. just to make sure its really on 3G and not secretly on Edge..
When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
Its just so annoying if I am online doing anything, slingbox, browsing the web, then when I want to make a call, it usually fails the first time while it disconnects then it goes through
Another odd thing probably just part of the new radio rom, when online and it starts to load data it switches to an H icon, I guess for HPDSA or whatever that abbreviation is.
Are you sure its really closing the data connection? Ignore the icons. Send yourself some emails and see if they arrive whilst on voicecall.
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When I select the WCDMA Network I get the 3G Icon, when I select the GSM Network I get the E Icon. So I think it knows the difference between 3G and E just fine. I leave the "band" setting set to Auto.
BTW I am using radio rom 1.38.00.10 now, but even when I had the factory 1.16.00.00 I still had this problem with WM6. It only seemed to work with WM5. Another strange thing, in the phone app it says UMTS Cingular, just another sign it is actually using UMTS (3G).
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i was saying to do this as a test, just to make sure the phone wasnt doing something funny... just some basic troubleshooting to help find the problem...
kinda like if your car wont start.. there are different problems that could cause it, maybe its out of gas, maybe the fuel filter is clogged, maybe the battery is dead.. different things can cause similiar problems, its better to eliminate all possibilities
I tested it this morning, data and voice works fine at the same time. Called voicemail and then opened up IE and was able to load several pages while on the call.
Edit, where are you located? Is it possible there is a problem with the network there? Try downgrading back to the Cingular software and see if that works.
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
KanosWRX said:
Shogunmark, I figured thats what you were getting at, and I tried all the options I could that would give me a connection to the network, but I still couldn't do data and telephone at the same time. Everytime I was connected online then went to place a data call it would have to disconnect me first. I tried doing a phone call then connecting online, but nothing would load.
I guess I could try going back to WM5, but I have hard spl 1.4 on so I gotta do a little rom editing of the cingular rom to get WM5 back I guess. didn't realize it was that complicated to go back to factory after installing hard spl.
Im surprised no one else has this issue. Its been like this for me pretty much as long as I have had WM6, so I doubt its the cingular network.
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not at all, just drop a WM5 NBH into a folder with CustomRUU and use autodetect. it'll flash quite happily
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
Just chiming in to say I don't have this problem and I've used both those roms and still using WMXL 0.20 now and use data and calling all the time. I am using the same radio ROM as you now too and it still works ok.
What apps do you have installed? anything that would end the data connection for some reason? Maybe put a list of apps and customisations you've made since installing the WM6 rom you have?
You could also try it with a blank WM6 rom, manually add the data connection settings and try and see if that works? Just to eliminate 3rd party apps and thing's you've changed.
The only other similar thing i can think of is I do remember there was an issue where data would disconnect when changing between 3G and EDGE. I don't remember who had this problem or why but it could be related.
Let us know how it goes?
Maz
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This would be great to add to the bug tracker website when I finish it.
http://maz.net.au/
KanosWRX said:
How would I take the HTC Cingular rom (found here, http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html) and get the WM5 NBH? Or will I have to use another WM5 version?
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Use this guide to go back to the Cingular ROM.
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
Here are the apps I have
Resco File Explorer
Core Media Player
Slingbox
Don't run to many apps on my ppc as you can see. I mainly just use it to stream media from home (orb, slingbox), and internet connection sharing. I'll probably find some time tonight to revert back to WM5 and let you know what I find.
Well I just flashed back to the cingular rom, and guess what it's working again, can talk on the phone and be on the internet at the same time. So weird. well I guess I will try going back to Black 2.0 and see what happens.
Kanos,
Your problem is definitely not WM6. As in WM5, I can concurrently browse the internet during a voice call. As Mark said, there may be other issues specific to your case -- you'll have to methodically eliminate one-by-one... you'll have to decide if the process is really worth the time yourself.
FWIW:
Radio 1.34
HERMES 200 HT625 (in use since 7/4/2006)
Network: Manual (Taiwan UMTS)
Band: Auto/GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
Cheers
I believe it's not truly a problem with WM6, as people obviously have gotten it to work. I will definitely look into it more and keep you all updated on what I find. Right now I am still on WM5 but I will flash back to WM6, no apps installed, right after a fresh hard reset and see if it works or not for me.
I decided to try LVSW this time. Guess what it worked, I was able to both data and phone at the same time. Next test will be to install Black 2.0 again and see what happens.
My theory is this, I had XDALive .10 and maybe that version had this issue, then when I upgraded to .20 it carried over somehow and then carried over to black 2.0. Then once I went back to WM5 it reset everything. Don't ask me how, but obviously I have a lot more flashing to do to test this theory.
the imate site on wm5 proclaim this as a problem. when u r receiving data at a specific point in time u cannot receive a call.
the aust. telstra latest release says the upgrade fixes this.
to bypass going back to wm5 i just used the xda radio only upgrade to try and bypass. this was i believe only when receiving data and a call inwards simultaneously.
otherwise i have never had ur problem n likely a flash issue.
there is another i have noticed in recent releases is activesync now asks to allow data to be received when activesync this is a 4.5 change so perhaps looking for this setting may also help ur simultaneous data issue. just a guess but it might have been easy to not allow this when u upgraded to wmg which rwquired 4.5 to do this.
anyway goodluck with it.
I am sure this has been covered elsewhere but I have searched extensively and cannot find a solution to this.
I am having problems syncing with Windows Live. I have tried pretty much every recent ROM and whenever I go to set up my account, it accepts all my details and goes through the set up procedure, but when it goes to sync, it says Synchronisation has failed because 'Windows Live is unable to connect. The service may be temporarily unavailable or you may be in a place where data coverage isnt very good. please try again later.'
If I log onto the same account on an identical device running wm5 with the non-beta live cab installed, I have no problems.
I have tried with WiFi and 3G and get the same result.
I know its not a problem with signal because I have a wm5 and wm6 device running side-by-side.
When I run the set up on wm5, it automatically initiates an internet connection but on wm6, if I havent already opened up a data connection before starting Windows Live I get an error straight away saying it cant find and active connection.
I have noted that other people have had similar issues but cant find a solution.
The devices I am using are UK Tmobile - could there be a network issue?
Had same problem a while ago when first upgraded to WM6
Tried various flavours including LSVW's but always had the same problem.
I then tried a different radio rom and Custel's great WM6
thankfully all is now working brilliant and never had a problem.
However not sure if this was the change in radio or the flavour of WM6 that caused it to correct.
i also have changed the settings in HTC custom so that in the comms tab i do not have GPRS/3G always on.
I have it set to disconnect.
Hope it helps.
I had this issue as after a few hours I did figure out one POSSIBLE cause.
When I turned off messenger on my PC, then it was able to sync.
You'd think it wouldn't need that but there you go.
RG
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I am sure this has been covered elsewhere but I have searched extensively and cannot find a solution to this.
I am having problems syncing with Windows Live. I have tried pretty much every recent ROM and whenever I go to set up my account, it accepts all my details and goes through the set up procedure, but when it goes to sync, it says Synchronisation has failed because 'Windows Live is unable to connect. The service may be temporarily unavailable or you may be in a place where data coverage isnt very good. please try again later.'
If I log onto the same account on an identical device running wm5 with the non-beta live cab installed, I have no problems.
I have tried with WiFi and 3G and get the same result.
I know its not a problem with signal because I have a wm5 and wm6 device running side-by-side.
When I run the set up on wm5, it automatically initiates an internet connection but on wm6, if I havent already opened up a data connection before starting Windows Live I get an error straight away saying it cant find and active connection.
I have noted that other people have had similar issues but cant find a solution.
The devices I am using are UK Tmobile - could there be a network issue?
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Hi, Kindly wanted to CHRISNASH, if the suggestion our fellow guys suggested resolved the issuse of connecting & syncing with window live as i hav the exact same problem? PLEASE...
i'll try the Custel rom tomorrow - its the only one I haven't tried I think. its certainly not an issue with the desktop as I dont have an account logged on.
I'm pretty sure I havent had these issues with my orange sim so it looks as though it might be tmobile related.
I havent used any connection tweaks so it cant be that.
ill also try one of the earlier lsvw roms which I know worked with my orange sim and see if that works.
any other suggestions would be seriously appreciated as I am running a conference with some students next week and I have planned a load of activities using it!
Windows Live not working with t-mobile and wm6
Well, I just tried my orange sim in my wm6 hermes and Windows Live synced fine. I put my tmobile sim in and it wouldnt sync giving the usual error message that it cant find a connection even when there is one. So I guess there is an issue with tmobile UK and Windows Live on WM6. Interestingly I have no such issues with it on WM5. Unless of course its an issue with the Radio version. I'll test that out now and report back.
Its definitely an issue with tmobileUK, wm6 and windows live, cos I just flashed the same device that had wm6, 1.41.00 radio and tmobile sim and wouldnt sync with windows live, with a wm5 rom and kept everything elas the same and it synced just fine!
Any ideas anyone?
Hi all,
has anyone else had their Orbit auto connect to GPRS? Mine was sitting on the desk beside me and just started to connect itself. According to the gprs monitor it then downloaded about 200kb of data. I had no software running in the background. The only software beyond the standard o2 stuff that is installed is CoPilot and Destinator, neither of which were running at the time.
Anyone any idea? I called O2 and put a block on GPRS until i know what's happening, but then that leaves me with the no net access over the phone. But with data costing £3/MB I don't want to risk a huge bill for no reason..
Wasn't quickgps downloading new GPS data was it? If you have autodownload set when data expires, that'll download something every 3 days.
Pretty sure it wasn't quickgps
I have that set up to download over activesync and my last sync was only last night. Besides, any time the gps info ran out before I was warned before the connection and could cancel it, this time the Orbit just went right on and connected. Most strange.
If only O2 would do a version of Web n Walk then I just wouldn't care!
Just had a thought
Since it's a feature I've never used, on any phone, a thought just struck me; does the device make a gprs connection to O2 Active to receive a MMS? I looked at the GPRS log and it's all received data; nothing was sent..
MMS
Yes MMS is transferred over O2 Active/O2 WAP.
MaskedMarauder said:
Yes MMS is transferred over O2 Active/O2 WAP.
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I use this app called Nodata...Turns off the GPRS so no accidental access and big ££££ (or €€€€)
Here's the link http://www.modaco.com/FREE-Utility-t246171.html
Thanks everyone
Thanks for the help everyone - I checked with my friends and it turns out that someone was trying to send me an MMS, so problem solved! I'll install nodata all the same though!
Hi folks,
Just a quick question...
I've just switched from the HTC Official WM6 ROM to Shamanix's Grass V1.3
On the HTC Official ROM WLM worked fine; I've installed the WLM 10.6.33.0600 (Fixed) CAB to my device but when it comes to synchronising on the first sign-in it just says that it failed with a message saying there might not be internet connectivity. I've got the T-Mobile UK settings installed and working fine because IE is happy to browse pages (and of course WLM verifies my username and password when first entering)...
I uninstalled this version and also tried the WLM Build 1400 version too and the result is exactly the same.
Does anyone have any idea why it might not be working?
Thanks in advance!
Rob.
the same prob
Welcome in my same Sh..
I have your same problem and unfortunately i couldn't fix it yet,i've tried to change different Roms too,but in vaine.Everything on my device works properly,like Skype,PIE,Etc.But the worst thing is that it doesn't allow me to check my Hotmail on internet too!!!Unbelievable!!!!
I'm using schaps and here it works flawlessly.
You might want to try that otherwise there might be a problem with the account you have at your provider.
i had the same problem, every rom i tried with it cooked in worked fine (black/schaps full etc), but using light roms and any of the various wlm cabs gave me the same errors, my account on wlive was fine.
this issue stopped my use of light roms and ive had to use full roms since.
I'm using a light rom and WLM1600.. works pretty fine..
Hard reset should do the job..
I have just added TNT's 6.1 rom but when I install TomTom 6, I can't get Plus services working.
Checked the username/password/device ID, reset the device on tt.com but it seems to bomb out with network error and not get off the hermes
I have the 6.0.030 version of TT
Any suggestions?
I'm having the same problem. Anyone have any ideas, could it be something on the SD card for the TomTom that needs to be changed or removed?
check to make sure your connections are configured properly. I was having issues with Pay's 6.1 ROM and I found that the 'ISP' connection wasn't working. I had to change the server in the ISP connection settings.
l3it3r said:
check to make sure your connections are configured properly. I was having issues with Pay's 6.1 ROM and I found that the 'ISP' connection wasn't working. I had to change the server in the ISP connection settings.
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All my other data stuff works so I don't think that's it.
l3it3r said:
check to make sure your connections are configured properly. I was having issues with Pay's 6.1 ROM and I found that the 'ISP' connection wasn't working. I had to change the server in the ISP connection settings.
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This is acting more like there is a method of connection being used by TT that is no longer there with 6.1
As above, everything else about data (email, IE etc) all work fine
I am running Dr. Faria Clean 6.1 and I just added Nav 6 today (still waiting for my BT GPS). I was able to download some new voices via Plus today without any issues. I also downloaded a new color scheme. I am on the AT&T network. I hope this helps.
Hmm, interesting. I ran Pay's 6.1 and ran into the same problem. I also ran Dr. Fari's full ROM and had the same thing as well. I'll see if I have time today to download and load the Dr. Faria Clean and see what happens.
Did you try to start IE and surf to a page to make sure data connection was working before starting tomtom?
I know some software doesn't seem to be able initiate data connection and will only work if it is already available.
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Did you try to start IE and surf to a page to make sure data connection was working before starting tomtom?
I know some software doesn't seem to be able initiate data connection and will only work if it is already available.
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That's not it. Everything else works fine. I was actually streaming internet radio stations when I tried to do it so it's not it.
One more clue.....
Looks like there is some values not being set correctly for connections on AT&T
In the case of the TNT 6.1 rom, it would seem that some apps were defaulting to "The Internet" not Media Net for the connection and not working.
So it would seem that TT might be defaulting to a value that some ROMs are not setting correctly
If someone could tell me where to check my settings I would be more than willing to post them. I would be curious if you could get it to work with faria's clean ROM though. It seems to work great for me.
ricrellim said:
If someone could tell me where to check my settings I would be more than willing to post them. I would be curious if you could get it to work with faria's clean ROM though. It seems to work great for me.
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tt and I did some more testing and ran the CINGULAR WAP cab that I keep for instances such as these. It fixed the problems with some of the applications that weren't connecting to the data network (MobiTV, XMRadio), but Slingplayer and TomTom both had troubles. The funny thing was that when it went to connect it kept trying to connect via the ISP even when MediaNET was selected for both options. Something is definitely not set correctly on TNT 6.1 so I'm pretty convinced that it's a TNT problem and not a 6.1 problem. I've posted the Cingular WAP settings cab for ease of use.
Problem solved......
The problem turns out to be that the Connection Config added an AT&T proxy server.
Delete the proxy server and it all starts working ok
I had MediaNet and 'My ISP' I simply changed the 'My ISP' server to match the one from MediaNet. Everything works. XM, MobiTv, TT6, Google, MS Live, Youtube, etc..