Using Orange sim with O2 ROM - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

Hi folks, this is my first post here so go easy on me, you all seem to know your stuff!
I've got an unlocked XDA Exec and I've upgraded the ROM once from the O2 website.
When I do a soft reset I see:
R.1.04.02
G.42.37.P8
D.1.13.82 WWE
I'm sure that will mean something to most of you. I assume the R stands for the radio version.
I have recently changed from an O2 PAYG sim to an Orange contract, and just want to know if there would be any benefit to changing to an Orange ROM (or iMate, Qtek etc)
(I don't need push email by the way - I'm happy to poll my gmail every 30 mins.)
P.S I am supposed to be on 3G but the little indicator at the top always says "G".
When I was with O2 it said "U" when I was in 3G range.
Any advice would be much apreciated.

Personally I'd upgrade that ROM, not for push email, but for general bug fixes and to get Radio 1.09.xx The newer ROM seems more responsive too.
As for changing to the Orange ROM, I'd say definately not. Orange have a bit of a reputation for releasing the worst versions of phone software, and unless you actually need things like line 2 there will be no benefit. The only thing you will need to do is enter the connection settings for GPRS, MMS and redirect the answermachine number.
As for the 2.5g (G) instead of 3g (U), I would be amazed if there was somewhere that O2 had 3g coverage but Orange didn't as O2's 3g coverage is still poor in comparison. Just check that under start -> Settings -> Phone -> Band that the network type is set to auto and then under Network that your current network is UMTS Orange.

Thanks Gajet, I'll probably upgrade to the latest O2 ROM then.
With regards to my phone Band etc - it is set to auto, GSM Band is "EGSM+DC1800" and UMTS Band is "UMTS 2100"
Under the Networks tab, my current network just says Orange.
If I look under preferred networks, there are 2 called Orange, 1 called @Orange, Orange CH and Orange F.

And you're sure the SIM is a 3g one? What phone if any did it come with? Working from memory I think Orange 3g USIMS are green and Orange 2.5g SIMs are white, they may have a g at the start of the printed number too, but that might be O2 I'm thinking of.

My sim is purple :?
I specifically asked Orange for a 3G sim, but I guess that's no guarantee they sent me one. It came with the SPV C600, which I will probably be selling on ebay when I can be bothered.
There is no "g" anywhere on the sim card - I'll just have to call Orange and find out what is going on. I've only just had my old number ported over today, if I have to do it again I won't be happy - especially as I left O2 because their customer service was USELESS.

lex_london said:
P.S I am supposed to be on 3G but the little indicator at the top always says "G".
When I was with O2 it said "U" when I was in 3G range.
Any advice would be much apreciated.
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That's because Orange are crap. They claim to have UMTS (3G) coverage in Derby but I don't have it.
Changing your ROM won't make it work, sadly. And O2 have been actively extending their 3G coverage - I started off with no 3G coverage, then I had it at work, and now I have it at work and at home.
I personally use the latest QTek ROM and it runs very nicely for me though some people say it's unstable with some software packages - though I've yet to see a reliable list of which packages these might be. Provided Linux meets with my expectations (which I consider bare minimum for 'Joe Public') I'll probably be ditching Windows Mobile altogether - in which case the ROM will be completely manufacturer- and network-independant.

lex_london said:
- especially as I left O2 because their customer service was USELESS.
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eeek Out of the Frying pan and into the blast furnace. Sorry mate all CS are crap nowadays and I'm afraid I would rate Orange as worse than O2 from personal experience.
They obviously have changed the colour schemes a bit with SIMs, but 3g USIM's were deffinately green. My suspicion is that they sent you a c600, looked at that handset and thought that you did not need a 3g USIM and have not sent you one. Defo phone em up to check, er don't be suprised if they say to upgrade to a 3g USIM costs £10, you can fight that one out with em.

lex_london said:
I left O2 because their customer service was USELESS.
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I tried to email a billing query in to O2 and they replied with bullcrap about reading usage data off the SIMcard. So I cancelled my Direct Debit and emailed them again to tell them that it would remain cancelled until the issue was resolved. 3 weeks later it was still unresolved and they had ignored all my emails. This month they tried to hit me with £43 (before VAT) of 3G data usage charges, having ignored my Welcome Browse & Download 5Mb allowance and having not updated my Usage online until after my first bill (thereby not allowing me to check my usage!!)
So I called them. They refunded the 14p for the text message to Romania as per my original billing query (I wanted to get that straight in case I find another 200 messages to Romania on my next bill and they try to use the defence that I didn't complain about the first one!), gave me £15 credit for the 5Mb of data I had been billed for wrongly, gave me a £10 "good will" refund and also provided me with an email address to make a formal complaint.

Oh dear. I didn't think anyone could be worse than O2! When I told O2 I wanted my PAC number to change my number to Orange, their "last line of defence" bloke offered me 1kb of data a month for free if I stayed with O2. I pointed out that I was already getting 1MB for free, which is actually quite a bit more. He said, "No, no kb is bigger than mb, I'm telling you!". :lol:
Anyway, I'd love it if Orange try to charge me £10 to upgrade to 3G seeing as I asked for a 3G sim in the first place. Any excuse to shout at them and get some money back!
I'll let you know how it all pans out, thanks for all the help.

lex_london said:
He said, "No, no kb is bigger than mb, I'm telling you!". :lol:
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Ever tried to talk to *any* broadband "support" people about Kbit vs Kbyte? Not a f#@king clue.
You should have asked for 1Gb!!

Well I spoke to Orange today and they confirmed that I have NOT in fact been sent a 3g sim card, despite the muppet on the phone assuring me that he would send me one with my new 3g phone.
As it turns out the phone isn't 3g either. :evil:
They told me I would have to cancel my current contract, start a new one on 3g and then transfer my number (again).
I was so angry at this point that I said a rude word :shock: told them I was going to cancel my direct debit, my contract and tell everyone I know to steer clear of them.
Too harsh?
Maybe.
Fun?
Oh yes!
But now I have no idea which network to use. If anyone out there can help - I need about 200txts 60mins and minimum 20-30mb data per month, as cheaply as possible. Less than £30 would be nice, but I'm guessing unlikely.
If I can draw on some of your experiences it would be a great help.
Thanks in advance.

T-Mobile for the win at the moment I'd say.
Get a Flext tariff to suit your needs and have web and walk added onto it, that's unlimited 3G GPRS (2GB fair useage policy) £7.50 a month or if you want to use as a modem for a laptop it's web and walk pro at £10 a month extra. These data prices can't be even closely touched by any other network at the moment.
Flext 20 would allow you 200 texts, 60 mins voice and a further £2 worth of credit to use on either, add web & walk and your total bill would be £27.50 a month. If you were being cautious on the voice and text needs, there is a flext 25 which gives £60 credit to spread over voice and texts for an extra £5 a month.
OK typing this I feel sick to have to keep on paying O2 what I currently do.

Thanks Gajet, I stumbled on to the T-Mobile site and snapped up the flex, web and walk offer thing. They say in the small print that VOIP, P2P filesharing and video streaming is not allowed but email and browsing is fine, which all suits me, and apparently the reception with T-Mobile is pretty good.
How would they know if I was using VOIP though? Doesn't it all just look like data traffic to them, or can they monitor what programs you are using?
I also just spoke to O2 to see if they could entice me back with a decent offer. Needless to say, their data prices for non-business users are ridiculous compared to T-Mobile, so I politely declined, which is unusual for me - but the girl did have a very nice voice. 8)
Looks like I'm finally sorted.
This forum is great, thanks to all for your help!

Also keep in mind that instant messaging software is currently not allowed, however I believe there would be a way round that in using web based system that sends replies to you as texts.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/11/t-mobile_voip_ban_responds/

I'll probably just stick with plain old sms and email for now. It sounds like t-mob will be introducing their own IM client at some point, but to be honest I'd prefer to use google talk.
Actually, thinking about it, you can access your google talk history from within gmail, but i'm not sure if you can actually use IM from within the browser. I'll have to test it out at some point.

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O2 and free GPRS :-)

i was on the phone to 02 today and was surprised by what the customer services agent told me. 02 are not charging for gprs.
i originally rang up to change my tariff as was worried about the amount of data i was downloading and getting a huge data bill. he said that i was not going to be charged for any data even though my allowance is only 100kb and i would be informed when i would be charged. seems very odd but im not complaining
i believe that someone works for 02 who uses this site just wondering he/she could confirm this
BTW im on the 02 200 tariff
sorry that this is not a BA thread but was just eager to ask
Yeh, I haven't been billed for my ridiculous GPRS usage. Good job too
Thing is, if we use it like its free, then one month they decide its not free we're buggered.
Also, I'm told if they hae been logging all your GPRS usage they're entitled to bill you for it in one massive bill whenever they choose.
something similar happened to my friend she didn't get charged for any voice calls for 3 months then 5 months later she got a massive bill. something to do with o2 computer system. so i wouldn't put it passed them.
i don't mined paying for gprs but £2.35 per meg is a ridiculous price and they give you a free entitlement of 100Kb whats all that about?????
just hoping we here from the guy who works for o2 to see if he can give us anymore details.
Try using a PayAsYouGo sim.
One day a while back all internet access got blocked. I cant use MSN anymore, or sync any of my email like I used to.
No word from O2 Why, and every single person in O2 has a different story as to why.
I wouldnt mind paying if I could actualy use it!
Im going to have to change from O2 to another company because they dont seem to offer working GPRS on PayG at all, no matter what the cost.
Orange do a good 3g bundle price, and when the new Universal comes out ill enjoy that! (contract though)
Be Carefull!!!
Be Carefull, guys!
I heard something similar and went a little crazy on GPRS, by listening to streaming internet radio one day. I phoned up to check it all, and was informed I wasn't gonna be charged.
I now have a bill for £165 (all GPRS 'Data Services')
...My phone is currently blocked, due to my inability to pay the bill.
Arf arf!!
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robboy said:
i believe that someone works for 02 who uses this site just wondering he/she could confirm this
BTW im on the 02 200 tariff
sorry that this is not a BA thread but was just eager to ask
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your correct, we do sometimes do free gprs, tho seems its most of the time these days, if u want, ill find out when it ends, but i can confirm that its free, for now.
most of the posts on here ive made are from my xda 2s and i use the gprs way too much.
i you could find out when it ends it would be great.
but its going to be a shock when it does stop. maybe 02 could sort out a better data plan. because 2.35 per mb is far to high.
i think it is important not to take the piss with downloading because if everyone starts o2 will soon change there mined
there are data tarrifs that turn £2.50 per mb to £1 per mb,
just like the text message bolt ons.........
not sure if you get it on certain tarrifs tho, ill find out prices and stuff on monday when i go back to work........... 8)
thanks joey would appreciate that, also is this through the "wap.o2.co.uk" APN?
i haven't been charged using mobile.o2.co.uk
i haven't been charged using mobile.o2.co.uk
free gprs is the only thing keeping me with O2, when it finally connects properly. :?
so why have I been charged over £150?
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well thats a strange one i assume your on o2 in the uk. what tariff are you on?
Yeah, I'm in the UK, and on O2 250.
Grr.
The o2 GPRS tariffs are not easy to find online, but if you look in the business section, there are a few options
I pay £14.50 + VAT = £17.04 per month for 36Mb free allowance and thereafter its £0.85/Mb + VAT = £1. Unused allowance rolls over for 3 months
I only use GPRS for tomtom traffic, live train timetables, light web surfing and the odd email - I do not sync with my mailbox, but use a web based email.
My useage is well below 36Mb/month
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i would have them look into that, i got one a few years ago, only had a nokia 3650, and it would be imposible to download the amount of data in the time i downloaded it, apparently i had a program that connected to gprs and constantly downloading stuff...... i wasnt happy when gprs cost me 200 quid, so i didnt pay, i called them, queried it, and even they told me it wasnt right!!
give them a call mate.... 8)
Gprs mixed messages from o2
I have called frequently about it and get this answer often: "GPRS is free for light web surfing and emails", then I ask how that is, and they say that there is a 100kb limit, which, in fact means it is not free, it appears that there is some confusion over there. I have to say I am sure that I have used more then 100KB and never been billed, we'll see how long this lasts?
100 kb is nothing thats about 5 email transfers or 5 mins on the web. i think it might be that it is free to a certain limit say 50mb however im sure o2 don’t want a situation like one2one had when they said free text messages for everyone it brought the system down and nobody could send a message
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im sure o2 don’t want a situation like one2one had when they said free text messages for everyone it brought the system down and nobody could send a message
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why do you think o2 have not announced it officially ? they wont tell you its free, u use it as u normally would and dont get charged.

Just see how GOOD Cingular is: Siemens SX66

This is related to our forum because, I have BA called Siemens SX66 provided by Cingular.
I want to you use my own ISP and dialup from my device.
Here what they say:
First you need to subscribe to Switch your number to Circuit...Blabla Switched dialing and you have to pay 3.99 per months. AND::::::::::
USE your minutes and it will be counted against your minutes plan. I have only 250 anytime min plan.
SO, I said, well, I will use at night and weekend. DA.
The rep replied to me with confidence, Sir, even if you use it at night and weekend, we will charge against your anytime minutes.. BUT< I said, I am using it at night... No one cares.
So, really what is the points of this with Cingular. I am out when my contract is over. believe me!
Sorry, I was annoyed and may be some of you have the same frustration.
i work for cingular and can vouch that it is true, you dont want CSD, unless you want like 9.5kps GPRS is much faster and it is true even when you use it at night they will deduct from your anytime minutes, just go into a cingualr store and get the media works plan
I have 19 more months left on my cingular contract and I think I will be staying - they have not done anything to anger me - never had to contact customer service (a BIG plus for me), plus coverage is good everywhere I go.
In regards to your SX66 - why would you want CSD ? even if you are not getting charged for minutes, why would you want to go online at 9.6kbps? EVEN IF cingular had HSCSD, it would still be much slower than EDGE (or GPRS for that matter)
exactly,i'drather have EDGE or GPRS then csd, and besides, if anything goes wrong, you get NO HELP from cingular, because we may offer it but DO NOT support it,
Hi: How can I upgrade my simens SX66 to have the EDGE tecknologie?
You can't; EDGE requires hardware.

Taking my TP2 across Europe and Internet charging ???

Hi Folks,
I am intending to use my planned TP2 abroad(from UK), most likely Europe. I will most likely be signing up to VF. However I have just discovered than international data charges are horrendous. Something like <£5/ < 0.5MB/ £5- 5MB etc. It is quite convoluted. I thought innocently that this would be a part of my roaming deal - no way....
Thoughts, Experiences, advice???
Sam
Earlier in the year I went to Portugal on holiday, and kept my iPhone in flight mode for almost the whole week. I found that I did not really need internet access all that much, and when I did need to use it once, I went to an Internet Cafe and paid a couple of Euro's for around half an hour.
VF have free roaming at the moment, till the end of August, which is great for calls and texts but unfortunately it doesn't include data.
They have a few data plans though, if your looking for heavy usage aboard they are probably quite good value, just give CS a call they'll explain. (Make sure you call VF Business CS, they are very helpful!)
data roaming (as opposed to voice roaming) is handy only if you need to access the Internet on the move constantly
why not consider locating café with free wi-fi hotspots as an alternative? or are they hard to come by in europe?
Yes you are right. One could of course use Wifi with the TP2 !!!
I will also ring Business CS to enquire...
Thanks,
Sam

When are Orange UK going to get this bloody phone?

Orange mad a big song and dance about being the first UK carrier to announce that they will be getting the HTC Desire. However, since them T-Mobile have beaten them to the release and now it looks like Vodafone will be next to get the handset out, judging by official release dates. (Before anyone mentions it I am well aware that it is available on Orange through Carphone Whorehouse and other online retailers. It's just that I want to know when Orange themselves are getting it).
I've heard rumours that Orange may be going for a 2nd April release, but nothing definite.
Does anyone know a definite date when Orange UK is going to get the handset? When I call them I am still getting operatives who don't even know that the thing exists, and others are still referring to it as the HTC Bravo! When I do get through to someone who knows about the Desire they just say "It wil appear on the website when we get it".
And you can bet that when it does appear on their website it already be out of stock.
Impatient? Me?!? Never!
I don't know an official date but just to let you know T-Mobile had a deal with HTC to get the phone out first.
They probably tried for an exclusivity deal (like with the G1, hero) but got rejected and got an (albeit quite short) timed exclusive deal.
Which is the reason why officially t-mobile themselves are stocking it before anyone else (I am aware you can get an unlocked handset with the contract ontop from places like mobiles.co.uk, carphonewarehouse).
It must have been a pretty late change of name.
My T-mobile supplied phone says HTC Bravo on the box!
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It must have been a pretty late change of name.
My T-mobile supplied phone says HTC Bravo on the box!
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They say HTC Desire on the box (where it matters).
The HTC Bravo sticker on the back is something which HTC has slapped on, internally they must be still calling it by it's codename.
It's been the HTC Desire for months.
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Orange mad a big song and dance about being the first UK carrier to announce that they will be getting the HTC Desire. However, since them T-Mobile have beaten them to the release and now it looks like Vodafone will be next to get the handset out, judging by official release dates. (Before anyone mentions it I am well aware that it is available on Orange through Carphone Whorehouse and other online retailers. It's just that I want to know when Orange themselves are getting it).
I've heard rumours that Orange may be going for a 2nd April release, but nothing definite.
Does anyone know a definite date when Orange UK is going to get the handset? When I call them I am still getting operatives who don't even know that the thing exists, and others are still referring to it as the HTC Bravo! When I do get through to someone who knows about the Desire they just say "It wil appear on the website when we get it".
And you can bet that when it does appear on their website it already be out of stock.
Impatient? Me?!? Never!
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I'm in the same boat - be interested to see what they offer you on upgrade. Phoned today and they said it should be out soon, but then said it's not available to upgrade customers until a few weeks later
They are so full of *beep* it's unreal. I think I might actually get my PAC code and go with Vodafone. If you see the other thread that I created T-Mob customers have had some cracking upgrade deals. Whereas Orange are still contemplating charging me for the phone. So in short the wait may not be for much longer, but it may not be worth it to stay with Orange...
If it is a Pay As You Go option you are looking for, some Carphone Warehouses still have stock (unlocked but with an Orange SIM).
As I mentioned in another thread, this is how I got my hands on one and I'm on an O2 contract.
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I'm in the same boat - be interested to see what they offer you on upgrade. Phoned today and they said it should be out soon, but then said it's not available to upgrade customers until a few weeks later
They are so full of *beep* it's unreal. I think I might actually get my PAC code and go with Vodafone. If you see the other thread that I created T-Mob customers have had some cracking upgrade deals. Whereas Orange are still contemplating charging me for the phone. So in short the wait may not be for much longer, but it may not be worth it to stay with Orange...
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Their operatives really haven't got a clue what's going on. When I spoke to them a couple of days ago I was told it would be available to upgrade customers at the same time as new customers! I had this exact same issue when I upgraded to the Diamond - it really depends who you speak to. Sometimes you'll get someone who's really clued up and will fall over themselves to help you, othertimes you get put through to someone who would appear to be the most unhelpful person on the planet.
The more I think about it, the more I'm tempted to jump to T-Mobile. I can get exactly the same deal that I am currently on with Orange (600mins, unlimited texts, "unlimited" mobile internet) for £30 per month, with the handset costing £60, directly from the T-Mobile website. So (and this is addressed to fuzzmo) if Orange say that they want £100 for the handset, tell them to go forth and multiply!
The other benefit of switching to T-Mobile is their rather tasty 3Gb "fair use" policy (compared to Oranges paltry 500Mb) for mobile internet on Android phones.
Oh, I'm going to have so much fun with Orange once they get the phone!
I've ordered my upgrade from buymobilephones yesterday. Switched from Racoon 30 to Racoon 25 and added 500mb of internet for £5. Phone cost me 69.99 which is a bit of a rip off now I think back but I suppose its not a huge deal.
Did say they had no idea when they'd actually have it in stock though. "Could be next week, could me in a months time"
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The more I think about it, the more I'm tempted to jump to T-Mobile. I can get exactly the same deal that I am currently on with Orange (600mins, unlimited texts, "unlimited" mobile internet) for £30 per month, with the handset costing £60, directly from the T-Mobile website. So (and this is addressed to fuzzmo) if Orange say that they want £100 for the handset, tell them to go forth and multiply!
The other benefit of switching to T-Mobile is their rather tasty 3Gb "fair use" policy (compared to Oranges paltry 500Mb) for mobile internet on Android phones.
Oh, I'm going to have so much fun with Orange once they get the phone!
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Just to let you know, if you like Orange (their coverage, orange Wednesdays etc) it's an excellent time to now go for T-Mobile. On T-Mobile you can get some excellent deals with a barrowful of minutes and texts AND a 3GB internet FUP policy. In around 2 months time they'll be merging with orange and while your plan will stay the same you'll be able to enjoy benefits like <insert whatever the new network's name is here> Wednesdays and the combined strength of Orange & T-Mobiles network coverage
Probably around the same time as O2
Teppic24 said:
The more I think about it, the more I'm tempted to jump to T-Mobile. I can get exactly the same deal that I am currently on with Orange (600mins, unlimited texts, "unlimited" mobile internet) for £30 per month, with the handset costing £60, directly from the T-Mobile website. So (and this is addressed to fuzzmo) if Orange say that they want £100 for the handset, tell them to go forth and multiply!
The other benefit of switching to T-Mobile is their rather tasty 3Gb "fair use" policy (compared to Oranges paltry 500Mb) for mobile internet on Android phones.
Oh, I'm going to have so much fun with Orange once they get the phone!
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Yup I am really thinking about it as they appear to treat their upgrade customers with much more respect and they certainly do give you a great Internet bundle. I am gonna tell them to go forth and multiply as they are just like Nationwides adverts - 'New Customers only'. Why they don't give a *beep* about their current high spending customers lord only knows....
My only concern with T-Mobile is their network coverage which leads me to....
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Just to let you know, if you like Orange (their coverage, orange Wednesdays etc) it's an excellent time to now go for T-Mobile. On T-Mobile you can get some excellent deals with a barrowful of minutes and texts AND a 3GB internet FUP policy. In around 2 months time they'll be merging with orange and while your plan will stay the same you'll be able to enjoy benefits like <insert whatever the new network's name is here> Wednesdays and the combined strength of Orange & T-Mobiles network coverage
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Is this confirmed? Is it true that they will be using Orange masts etc. and also bringing in 'Orange' Wednesdays?.... If so (although the latter isn't important - coverage is) then that is a deal clincher for me...
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Is this confirmed? Is it true that they will be using Orange masts etc. and also bringing in 'Orange' Wednesdays?.... If so (although the latter isn't important - coverage is) then that is a deal clincher for me...
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Orange wednesdays isn't confirmed but they will be 1 network after the merger, not 2 and it;s been given the goahead by the EU and will be done in the next few months so it stands to reason they will use each other's current masts and have better coverage.
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Orange wednesdays isn't confirmed but they will be 1 network after the merger, not 2 and it;s been given the goahead by the EU and will be done in the next few months so it stands to reason they will use each other's current masts and have better coverage.
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[topic=off]I wonder what they'll call the combined network? T'orange? A good northern name. [/topic]
The deal is confirmed
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/...miX+(cellular-news)&utm_content=Google+Reader
As for the name I thought Tangerine using the T-Mobile font in White on an orange background thus combining both.

Desire + Orange?

Hi, im currently up for renewal on my vodafone contract, but with them not being able to offer a decent tarrif or give me an actual date for when they think they will be getting stock (been told approx 2weeks but nothing confirmed) ive been forced to shop around, ive been offered 500mins 3000texts and internet (500mb, is that enough for the desire?) and a free phone tomorrow so to speak from orange. I know from past experience with orange that back in the day they would fill there phones of junk, i was wondering if the Desire was full of the old orange stuff? or is it unbranded so to speak?
Cheers, Joe
Oh, i can however get a nexus one with vodafone on a contract that i could live with, is it worth jsut going for a nexus over the desire? is there any major differences between the two other than the sense ui? which is the main reason i prefer the desire over the nexus tbh.
I think it all depends where you get the phone from. Orange, Phones4U and most Orange stockists will sell you their crapware filled, branded, crippled Desire that really is an awful experience in comparison to stock Desire. Thankfully this branding is pretty easily removed.
The Carphone Warehouse will sell you an unlocked, branding free Desire on contract from Orange etc. and they may give you quite a good deal.
As for the Nexus, it has pros and cons. It has Froyo, gets updates seemingly quicker than other Android phones, and has a uni-body design (honestly, it's not that much different). The Desire IMHO is better due to HTC Sense, more RAM and physical buttons which are more responsive than the touch buttons on the Nexus One.
It's your choice but I'd go with the Desire -- preferably NOT on Orange (they even give you a measly 500mb data plan [I've had the phone three months and gone over twice due to Spotify and podcast streaming] unless you pay another tenner and their customer service sucks) or via The Carphone Warehouse. Look around for the best deals
Cheap Desire offer!
Ive just bought one via mobiles.co.uk, it comes from them and it is a stock desire rather than an orange.
They have an offer on half price line rental for 12 months on one of them cash back thingys. Only had the phone a couple of days but pretty happy with it!!
The Orange phone is filled with rubbish you can't rid of.
I've just unbranded mine.
As above. Mobiles.co.uk i found were offering the best deals.
The Orange Network i've found to be very good, and the customer service again has been excellent
I came from O2 with an iffy data network and rubbish customer service
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The Orange phone is filled with rubbish you can't rid of.
I've just unbranded mine.
As above. Mobiles.co.uk i found were offering the best deals.
The Orange Network i've found to be very good, and the customer service again has been excellent
I came from O2 with an iffy data network and rubbish customer service
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Orange have been terrible to me. They even got my name wrong on a bloody direct debit when my name is on the account!
steve228uk said:
Orange have been terrible to me. They even got my name wrong on a bloody direct debit when my name is on the account!
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I guess they can't get it right all of the time, I can testify to that on O2's behalf, they were crap for me.
Yea whatever you do dont go on 02, had a 30 day rolling contract with them.. took me 3months to get that canceled.
Im on orange now 500mb of internet is fine for me, i just do general internet browsing facebook etc. Ive worked out 500mb will get you 16mb a day. Mines from phones4u had no problem with them, just make sure you cancel all the insurance addons they give you (unless you want them)
Cheers
Sorry to sound like I'm fighting the tide but I've always found O2 to be decent, both for customer service and network. I've always managed to negotiate a deal with retentions that is comparable to the best competitor tariff. I'm kind of limited because O2 are the only network that get a signal inside my house. Voda, Orange and T-Mob are all low signal but that's because I'm in a semi-rural location.
In fact my local mast must have been upgraded recently because I started getting a strong H signal inside the house a few days ago when I ALWAYS had plain G before.
As for data plans, ALL the main networks in the UK are going to tiered data plans. There's no such thing as unlimited data any more, it's 500MB for starters and then increasing cost for more MBs (750,1000 etc).
I spoke to O2 about the data and they told me it was only going tiered on the iPhone. I didn't think it was true but it was kinda interesting to hear.
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If that's true then fair enough, but it would be sensible to keep an eye open in case O2 do change the data plans across the board. I took out a new contract on 22-June with "unlimited data". My understanding is that O2 are looking to review "unlimited" sometime in October. It doesn't afect me as such anyway because I tend to run at 200-300MB per month.
Im on the same tariff and I got the phone from carphone warehouse for 2 reasons, Orange weren't selling it at the time, and it was unbranded.
The tarrif works fine for me (Managed to go over the 3000 texts , I know not to do to much with the phone on 3G, So it only gets used for emails using the net and stuff, I don't watch videos on it or stream or anything for to keep myself covered
Install at 3G Usage monitor for good measure
I am on the same tariff too. Mine is locked and a pain, just wondering whether to root it or not. Is it actually worth it? I am only wanting to do it because I want to change how many apps boot up to save battery life since all the apps take up 60%+ of battery power?
Anyway, 500mb is fine for internet usage, so far. I have 3g.Watchdog app so it tells me when I go over 75% and warns me when I get close to my quota. Just don't stream and use it for MSN and browsing when your out. When I am in I use the WiFi
I'm on a similar tariff, only with 300 minutes but with a free phone at £25/mth on an 18-month contract I'm not complaining
I just use the 'Your Orange' app from the market to keep track of it all. Seems to work a treat.
steve228uk said:
I'm on a similar tariff, only with 300 minutes but with a free phone at £25/mth on an 18-month contract I'm not complaining
I just use the 'Your Orange' app from the market to keep track of it all. Seems to work a treat.
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It does, but it doesn't give you a up-to date usage all the time, Im sure it states in the app minutes and data may be up-to 48 hours old
well due to the first few posts i decided to go against orange, just got off the phone from vodafone they hae stock but im on the end of the waiting list though it wont be soon before the phone is in the post, got the phone for free on £35 a month over 18months with 600mins unlimited texts + unlimited internet cant really complain!
i'm on orange and upgraded through them. i got
1100 mins
unlimited landline
unlimited internet
600 texts
£25 a month for 18 Months
I got my desire on orange, i have debranded mine & got it unlocked.
orange have been good to me never had any probs with customer service.
By the sounds of it some of you still run the stock Orange app, any chance someone could back the stock Rom up an send me a copy, would be mucho appreciated.
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