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Will it work on the xda IIs?
It may. A user on another forum just reported succesfully using a Tanscend 4gb card in his XV6600 even though he was told it would only support 2gb...http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61612
Have tested with 2GB SData SD card myself, works fine. Didn't have 4gb but it should work as well.
The SX66 supported SD list was created back when the highest SD card was like 512meg or 1gig, that's why the supported lists are different
hi, thanks for the replies. i see it everything should be fine using a 4gb sd card.
due to the nature of the BA, and as far as i kno all other fairly recent PDAs they will support all current and future SD cards as they don't suffer the limited memory addressing of smaller less complex devices such as normal mobile phones like nokias and digital cameras
i've read somewhere the SD card standard will theoretically go up to 16gb, lets hope they arn't too far away, and that the BA will support it.
Still hoping some random company will develop and release an SDIO USB host though. Damn the BA not having Compact Flash.
http://www.everythingusb.com/news/index/5929.htm
http://sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
Much cheaper, and from SanDisk...
1 GB SD which doubles as a USB thimbdrive w/o need for adapter. MSRP $134.99
Dear All,
I was thinking of buying a 4GB SD card for my Xda Exec but i'm not quite sure if it supports it. Could someone please enlighten me on this, thanks alot.
regards,
Ravi
really interested to know your experience on this, or anyone else, as I am also looking.
This seems pretty cheap:
http://www.offtek.co.uk/item_detail.php?id=406125
Transcend do a compatability list, but doesn't have exec:
http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/FAQ/index.asp?axn=Detail&FAQNo=400
This is £109. Seen any cheaper for 4gb ?
interesting info:
Apparently, the 4gb sd card doesn't work on the treo650 as 4gb sd cards are in fat32 format and treo only accepts cards in fat format and not fat32 format.
Does exec recognise fat32 sd cards ?
Saw one on e-bay a couple of days ago for about £85 including shipping. I believe it was 150X speed (22Mbps). Will see if i can locate it, if you are interested.
cheers,
Ravi
Hey Everyone,
bought a couple of days ago a 4Gb SD card on ebay for £85.00.
Got it yearsterday put it in the Xda Executive works with no problem.
I formated it with Pocket Mechanic in FAT 32.
Copied all my stuff from my only 2GB MMC to the 4GB SD card a pop it in the XDA Executive and up to now I've had no problems.
Works Great.
The make of the card is:
My Flash
150X Turbo
Regards
Gigino
Gigino, can the camera save to the card? That appears to be where most people have had problems
Hey Coldpenquin,
I tried what you have said to save a camera photo to the Storage card.
You are right they is a problem I get a error message saying:
Camera
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:110:0
So it looks like that the 4Gb card does not work 100% on the Xda Exec.
Any another problem that I should be aware of.
Hope this is helpfull.
Any another person what me to try something please let me known.
Ciao
Gigino
the only card I know that does 150x is the transcend. wonder if this is the same OEM as the mycard ?????
Does camera save work ok on the 2gb ?
If you have an o2 xda exec it might worth a support email or call to o2. It sounds like a simple issue to fix, just some check in the camera software that is failing probably being due to using 32 bit integer, as this is 2gb address. 33bit is 4gb
just found out, myflash is actually adata.
adata is a good memory company, I have 2gb ddr2 in my pc from adata and np. They also make SD cards from samsung.
I never use the camera in any event. Cards the seem to be available in the uk:
Transcend (offtek)
Pretec
Myflash-adata (ebay)
Samsung-adata (samsung)
Ora (expansys)
rgds
gigino said:
Hey Coldpenquin,
I tried what you have said to save a camera photo to the Storage card.
You are right they is a problem I get a error message saying:
Camera
Unable to capture.
Not enough memory.
36009:110:0
So it looks like that the 4Gb card does not work 100% on the Xda Exec.
Any another problem that I should be aware of.
Hope this is helpfull.
Any another person what me to try something please let me known.
Ciao
Gigino
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I've had the same problem 5 months ago when I bought the 4GB Transcend. That is why I returned mine. The only solution is to store more than 2MB of whatever you want on the 4GB SD Card before the camera application will even recognize it. The camera application only supports up to 2GB Cards from my experience.
hey cktlcmd, r u saying that if more then 2m are stored in the photo sub-folder then the camera works as normal ?
+ personal qu. aren't you a bit pissed that you can't use umts in new jersey ?
I think that he means 2GB.
Basically, if you try and store a number greater that 2GB (i.e., 33bit), in a 32bit integer, the number will be returned as negative when read back as a 32bit integer. The camera program must be converting the amount of free space to a 32bit integer, which is not a correct assumption to make, but this is microsoft.
I was wondering whether the flash could be partitioned to be two 2GB partitions and whether this would fix the problem. But, if the programmers were so lazy not to check the bounds on variable or that they are the correct types, then it would probably not be possible to see the second partition
Gareth
colonel said:
hey cktlcmd, r u saying that if more then 2m are stored in the photo sub-folder then the camera works as normal ?
+ personal qu. aren't you a bit pissed that you can't use umts in new jersey ?
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Coldpenguin is right.
Unfortunately, we have to accept our service providers' limitations.
Using 4Gb card for already few months and works great.
it is a 150X.
Of course, you can't use it to save pictures, but this is a pure software problem.
Patrick.
off topic, sry: hey patrick is there a umts network in Isr ?
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off topic, sry: hey patrick is there a umts network in Isr ?
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there is one, it's the Orange network.
So, can I confirm from you guys? Since I'm about to buy a 4GB SD Card, too.
1. Both Transend and Adata 4GB will work on Universal.
2. Only camera application cannot store directly to the SD Card, but if we have the SD Card filled up with more than 2 GB amount of data, then the camera can store files on it? Has anyone try it before, or its just an assumption?
Thanks in advance.
I can personally speak to the 4gb Transcend - works exactly as you described in #2. fill with at least 2gb and camera saving to card works fine.
Hey guys (&girls?)
DId anyone of you discovered the same problem as I did in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=269843#269843
I just tried the camera to save to the 4GB SD Card (Transcend x150) and had no problems with the two pictures I took.
Saved them directly to the Card in folder
SD-CARD-MyDocuments-EigeneBilder (288k / 270K per image @high res)
2881,66 MB Used 1068,34 MB Free
ROM Version: 1.30.96 Ger
ROM Date: 03/01/06
ProtokollVersion 42.42.P8
ExtROM 1.30.185 GER
Someone posted that the newest QTEK ROM fixes this 4GB Camera problem. I have this ROM installed in my device but I don't have a 4GB card to test on.
Just thought some of you guys would like to know.
From PRETEC, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=6609
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I found one on eBay for £96.00 + £4.00 p&p.
150X 8GB OEM SAMSUNG SECURE DIGITAL SD CARD 8 GB G NEW
Looks good.
Gonna test that on Universalinux too?
wonder if it will work in a prophet (JAMin)
RE
If your PDA do not have a SDHC slot then PRETEC card is not backward compatible
Quote
"SDHC cards are recognized by new SDHC host devices differently than standard SD cards and are not backward compatible with legacy SD format host devices. "
Bad luck!!
What IS SDHC compatible?
I was gonna ask that one, so i will ask it anyway!
What is SDHC?
Never mind, i found this information:
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf#search="sdhc compatible"
But now we need to know whether our Universal is SDHC compatible or not. Has anyone managed to find out if these new cards work with our PDA's?
Maximum capacity for this device: May support up to 2GB
But we know that's already true. So...
This quote is right from the article linked to by the first post here...
The maximum capacity of SD card is 2GB under SD 1.1 of Secure Digital Alliance (SDA) specification; however, by using file format of FAT32, many SD 1.1 host devices can use a 4GB SD card. SD 1.0/1.1 uses traditional "Byte Addressing" scheme which limits the maximum capacity to 4GB while SD 2.0 adopts "Sector Addressing" scheme which can reach the maximum capacity of 2TB (2048GB).
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In other words, they 'cheat' to get the Universal and other SD 1.1 devices to see 4G, but that won't work with the 8G cards.
Brett
Would the Universal still not work with an 8GB SD card if that card was partitioned into 2x 4GB's? It certainly would be helpful if someone could try this? You just never know!
re
I guess no one will know for sure until someone tries it. BTW how do you partition a SD card anyways? Do you really think that could work?
hello
if SD 2.0 is the later version then would not all new 4 GB SD cards support "sector addressing" which would limit the ma. capacity to 2 GB
I have a 4gb that works in uni
I keep reading that people aren't able to use anything above a 2gb SD but I have been using a 4gb that I purchased on eBay for pver 6 months now. I used in with the original Jasjar ROM and also with JWrite's, Indra, and currently Helmi's. (not with the WM6's yet though)
It is interesting to note however that it won't work in any of my desktop or laptop systems without the included dongle. Not even the built in SD slot in my TC1100 tablet.
It says it's made by a company called "TopRam" if that helps anyone.
I also purchased an 8gb that SUPPOSEDLY supports SD 1.1 and 2.0 according to the documentation. It took a great deal of hunting to find one that didn't say it was HC and I'm still skeptical as to whether or not it will actually work, but as soon as it comes in and I have a chance to try it I will post the results here if anyone is interested.
I know there are one or two people here who make claims of such things, but if there are any doubters I will take some screenshots of the storage card memory screen if I need to.
SDHC uses a different software for the controller. The hardware is exactly the same. The point I'm trying to make, is that the SD people went to very radical lengths to ensure that there is no compatibility betweens SD and SDHC. They also have two different kinds of memory addressing. Bottom line, you can't use SDHC. Your device must say SDHC, and AFAIK, no PDA is SDHC compatible. With all of that said, I'm a Scoter owner, and we have valid reports of being able to access SDHC cards from a PC, through my device. It may be possible to create drivers for the SD controller, or create some kind of emulator, but that is a long way off. I've seen similar threads about those asking about 4 GB and 8 GB. Unfortunetly most don't understand the difference between SD and SDHC. SD is capable of 4 GB. SDHC starts at 2 GB and has potential in the terrabyte range. In addition, many of the real cheap 4 GB SD cards don't strictly adhere to SD standards, and may work on some reader designs, and not on others. A perfect example is that I bought a 4 GB SD card, that only works on one card reader, but not my PC reader or PDA.
Regards,
Jason
SDHC Patch
I just read on a forum for Palm Treo that they have a working patch for the Treo which forms compatibility of SDHC on the Treo.
Now perhaps we can take a lesson from them and see what changes where needed to make it work. Besides, you can't tell me that there are more people working of patches for the PalmOS than WM.
well , the sdhc 8gb does not work on my xda exec-universal. so I just bought a 4gbcard "MyMemory 4GB 133X SD" from ebay that is stated as being compatible 21.94 pounds.
I'll just use my sdhc 8gb as an expensive mem stick in my sweex sdhc reader .
got it
So I received my 8gb (supposedly NON SDHC) and as expected, it won't read in my Jasjar. I am going to try and reformat it into 2 or 4gb partitions to see if that will work but I am going guess and say no. It is already in fat32 but it doesn't recognize the card at all in the PDA. Just to make sure it was in fact a full 8gb (7.6gb actually) I copied a handfull of movies (7gb) to it and then ran them on another laptop and it is in fact a good card.
I can't repartition it in XP since it sees it as a removable disk, so as soon as I get my Linux laptop back up and running, I will repartition it there and see what happens. I don't expect much though.
TBOMB said:
So I received my 8gb (supposedly NON SDHC) and as expected, it won't read in my Jasjar.
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Could you, please, try AKU 3.5 ROM (Helmi 1.3.1 or Ivan B2)?
Because this ROM comes from device which support SDHC.
There were reports also, that Triniti with last Dopod ROM (AKU 3.5)
support Mini SDHC 4GB (maximum for mini SD now).
BTW tell us which ROM you are tryinng.
why not
If someone will send me the link to the rom files, I'll be glad to. I just don't have a lot of time right now to search the ftp site.
Two questions about Helmi's 1.3.1, first, will it support my bluetooth stereo headset like the pdaviet 207 I'm using now does? and second, I don't suppose any of these new roms has the new timechange fix already applied do they? I just don't want to keep reflashing my Jasjar and still having to apply all the reg fixes etc to correct for the new timezone/dst changes.
Guess nobody was in a hurry for me to test using the other ROMs as I have had no PM's with info as to where I can find the ROMS now that they are no longer on the ftp server here.
I find my copy of Helmi's aku3.5 1.3 and tried it with the 8gb (non-sdhc) card with no luck. I assumed as much. Not quite sure where you heard that it had SDHC support but I guess it doesn't.
I had the PDAVIET 2.0.0.0.7 or whatever the latest incarnation was and that didn't work either. I now have Helmi's WM6 1.1 that I put on last night and that one also doesn't work.
I'm sure we have some developers out there who know palm and ppc hardware who can take a look at the "fix" that was created for the Treo which allows SDHC use. I can "open" the prc file but I don't know enough about what I'm looking at to be helpful.
Not sure why this fix is so slow coming. Perhaps not enough people see the need for 8gb cards. I have a 4gb but I have to continue taking off stuff in order to put anything else on because it's always full.
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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Internal NAND is usually orders of magnitude faster. Also, it is less complicated to deal with when you dont have to play the "Which Partition To Use Today" game.
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
Its not worth getting anything over 16gb as long as you can expand with micro sd. If no external storage is available, that's the only reason to get a 32 or 64 variant.
Plus, that extra storage is WAY over priced. A 32gb micro sd card can be as low as 20 bucks if you shop around. A 64gb can be had for about 50 bucks, so paying an extra 150 for the 64 over the 16 is robbery.
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Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
I appreciate all the responses so far. I'm thinking I might just get the 32 GB middle-ground in this case (which is what I did when I bought my to-be-replaced iPhone 4), and it's served me well enough. If the difference between 32 GB and 64 GB ends up being $50.00 I'll likely just pick up the larger one as, at least in Canada, it's a 3-year phone term, so, I might as well add as much life to it as I can up front.
I definitely agree with the NAND vs MSDHC performance. The reason I only question it is that I am, of course, thinking of only doing a media dump on the device. Now, I also plan on loading in direct Blu-ray to 720p files, so, I'm not sure of the performance marker there of pulling 720p content from a MSDHC to the device would be, but I can only imagine my performance would be better realised if I was pulling it direct off the NAND.
I guess it'll come down to price, more than anything. I am not heavy into doing large-media storage, so, I doubt there will be much going on where I really need to hit 128 GB of space, but, you know, having the option is nice, especially when travelling around. At least Samsung didn't decide to get foolish and only offer the internal NAND as options, MSDHC is definitely a very nice feature in a device that's intended to bridge the smartphone and tablet market.
...it will also come down to what AT&T offers!!!!
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Exino said:
Hi,
I am pretty confident at this point I'll be picking up a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 once it hits the market (presuming it's not banned off the face of the Earth by Apple first, somehow), but I have a question, and, I'm not entirely clear on something:
The Note II comes in three variants, 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB. However, what's the point of buying anything other than the 16 GB (maybe 32 GB) if it supports up to 64 GB via micro SDHC? Plus, to my understanding you can install apps directly to the MSDHC as well? I presume this is due to local caching, performance, etc. which is why you would want to use local storage only, but, to that, I ask: if you buy the 64 GB, is there really enough of a reason to require it? The app store just doesn't provide enough interest to need it for apps themselves, music and video can put dumped in the much cheaper MSDHC instead; so why buy the higher storage capacity? I know this is a very subjective thing, so, it's a bit of preference involved, but, I'm curious to know what the leading factors are, so when the time comes to pay the premium I'll know for sure what I'll be picking up internal-storage wise.
Anyone who wants to clear this up for me, please, do, I'm sure I'm missing something fundamental here.
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It's the same game that has been around for decades now regarding storage space and price. The price per unit of storage is always going down and your usage of said storage is always going up. One day you will be wondering how you lived with anything less than an Exabyte of space and laugh at those who paid $100 per terabyte. There are only relative usage profiles for the space and everyone's budget is also relative. For me, I will be rocking the 64GB variant with a 64GB micro SD card and claim 128GB in 2012... but you sir will have the last laugh at my expense
16gb internal with micro sd is better, so all game data will go to internal sd, while all your important file(pics,mp3,vids etc) in your micro sd(whatever size it is) much safer if something wrong happen to internal sd
32gb way to much, better having a large micro sd than internal sd
r4$h1d.f41ru$
If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
fr8cture said:
If its anything like the S3 you wont be able to move apps to a sd card.
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16gb wont enough?
r4$h1d.f41ru$
robyr said:
Internal NAND will be faster, bar none, than any SD card on the market. Class 10 or not. Its not a rip off, and it very well could mean the difference between slow loading apps (if they reside on the SD card) and a lagless experience. Just letting you know.
If all you plan to store is media, then by all means go for the minimum and augment with an SD card, but it it NOT robbery to be given far faster storage. It is like the difference between an IDE drive and SATA. No comparison or contest when it comes to board-mounted NAND.
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Sweeping comment, TROLLING?? I have seen many Micro SD cards from Sandisk reaching upto 100MBps despite being marketed as Class 10. This is VERY IRRESPONSIBLE comment as there is no holy grail engraved in your beloved "NAND" Flash. Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
One major benefit of having 64GB onboard would be Micro SD card will become more redundant if you live with that space for years. Also, you would have an opportunity to have upto 124GB or so when using 64GB Micro SD cards (I am optimistic though that these new phones may support even higher capacity 128GB or so MSD cards may be after some software tweaks by some of our dev gurus here).
rashid.fairus said:
16gb wont enough?
r4$h1d.f41ru$
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Not for me. I ran out of storage already.
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Prankey said:
Its just a type of flash and doesn't dictate in terms of performance unless Samsung's hardware can not utilize the higher speed Micro SD cards.
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All card readers/writers have their throughput limits.
How fast the note 2's is is yet to be determined.
Has anyone determined the max write /read speed of the note 1?
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hi all,
i currently own a Galaxy s3 and i would like to switch to LG G3, but i'm a bit confused about the two different version of the device. The additional 1 GB of ram with has the 32GB worth the much money they want? And what about the modders that have bought the phone: it is going to be a great modding support (like my gs3 has)? and if i buy the 32gb version, can i install rom created for the 16gb version or i have to wait for someone to "convert" them? thank you in advance :laugh::fingers-crossed:
noitide said:
hi all,
i currently own a Galaxy s3 and i would like to switch to LG G3, but i'm a bit confused about the two different version of the device. The additional 1 GB of ram with has the 32GB worth the much money they want? And what about the modders that have bought the phone: it is going to be a great modding support (like my gs3 has)? and if i buy the 32gb version, can i install rom created for the 16gb version or i have to wait for someone to "convert" them? thank you in advance :laugh::fingers-crossed:
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16 and 32GB version share the same version number and firmware, so I think any mod for one will apply to the other as well.
Now the question whether it's worth the money difference is subjective of course, you have to weight how much 16gb of internal storage is valuable to you (bearing in mind you can add additional storage with an SD card although of course it's not the same). It is valuable to me as I install a lot of games and I don't want to have to find workaround to move them to the SD card which is slower, so I got the 32gb version, but I don't think the extra 1gb RAM is making much of a difference. I have zero problem with mine and am very happy with it, I guess I would still be happy with the 16gb version.
Choose 32GB
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Protagoras said:
16 and 32GB version share the same version number and firmware, so I think any mod for one will apply to the other as well.
Now the question whether it's worth the money difference is subjective of course, you have to weight how much 16gb of internal storage is valuable to you (bearing in mind you can add additional storage with an SD card although of course it's not the same). It is valuable to me as I install a lot of games and I don't want to have to find workaround to move them to the SD card which is slower, so I got the 32gb version, but I don't think the extra 1gb RAM is making much of a difference. I have zero problem with mine and am very happy with it, I guess I would still be happy with the 16gb version.
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well, actually the problem isn't the internal memory (i don't play games with my phone) but the ram, because i don't change phones that often (once in two years) and i'm afraid that "only" two gigs of ram could make my phone obsolete before the "planned" two-years use.
thank again for replies :fingers-crossed::laugh: