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Following a couple of previous spontaneous hard-resets, my SPV2000's now developed a liking for it, and I've got a completely repeatable hard-reset issue...
All I need do is press the telephone "Green" button!
What's odd is that if, following the hard reset, I hit the green button after the PDA's started up, but before all the Orange McGuffery installs, the phone just pops up fine. Soon as the Orange stuff's installed, it's back to green=hard reset.
WTF? Anybody else had anything similar?
If that is the case, it would seem that something in your EXtRom is the cause.
I suggest you try updating your rom, or just generally cooking your Extended rom.
Instructions on working with your extended rom are here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen
TheLastOne said:
I suggest you try updating your rom, or just generally cooking your Extended rom.
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Is that as scary as it sounds?
BTW - I've just tried to demonstrate this utterly-repeatable behaviour and... it's working as it should. <cries, bangs head on table>
I had a problem with my first M2000 in that it wouldn't soft reset. Whenever I tried it would just stall and would take over an hour with the sim card out before it would work again.
Finally get a replacement and I found the rom was insanely old. After a couple of questions in the upgrade folder I *just* flashed the phone with the latest rom and a slightly modified extended rom. While it does look tricky, its not.
Look here for more...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19354
xyon said:
I had a problem with my first M2000...
I found the rom was insanely old.
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Thanks - I seem to be fairly recent, though :-
Operator 5.31.1.124
ROM Version 1.31.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/13/04
Radio Version 1.06.02
Protocol Version 1337.38
ExtRom Version 1.31.124 WWE
AdrianC said:
BTW - I've just tried to demonstrate this utterly-repeatable behaviour and... it's working as it should. <cries, bangs head on table>
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And it's back at it.
The phone was ringing, I pressed "Green" to answer it, and got a hard reset. Restored the backup, pressed "Green", and got a hard reset.
This is getting VERY depressing.
Has nobody ever experienced similar? <whimper>
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It gets worse! The f**king thing's now wiped my contacts and calendar in Outlook.
Excuse me, I'm just off to take to drink.
It would be worth you trying to upgrade the radio to v1.08.00.
My SPV had the audio problem and it seems to have cured that (tho I haven't re-installed much of the 3rd party s/w I had on there yet) so maybe it will help you too.
I upgraded to v1.10.00 initially (from v1.06.00), but couldn't get my wifi link to work properly. I then tried v1.08.00 and everything seems fine.
Me too, just started this week
I am also having spontaneous hard reset problems with my pda2k. I have been using it for about 6 months and for at least two months with all the sw I now have on it. When I press the power button to bring it back from sleeping it starts the "time to align your touch screen" crap. I am fairly sure it is NOT my ROM but in case anyone needs to know that:
ROM: 1.22.00 WWE
Radio 1.06.00
Ext ROM: 1.22.162 WWE
The only other remote possibility I can think of it some combination of the aftermarket 2200 mAh battery combined with the very high side seat bolsters in my new car. Perhaps I am twisting or stressing my unit in my front pocket when getting into or out of my car and that causes a momentary loss of contact with the battery contacts. I have tried to duplicate that with my hands but have not been able to. I guess I will not put it in my pocket for a while to continue testing. To the fellow who lost all of their contacts. I sympathize! That is why I set my ActiveSync to NOT actually perform any updates. I know many like the features of AS but it is not transparent, bidirectional enough nor stable enough for me to embrace. I use Sprite for backups instead and keep the data on my pda2k as "primary". Any more insight on such new and random hard resets is appreciated.
Good info on Himalaya forums also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12802
I know this topic has be address many many times and there are still no soluation to the problem.
So.. I want to make a poll to see how many user is experiencing this problem.
I hope to grather enough data to see if it is a hardware problem or Firmware problem so that i can address to O2 regarding this issue.
I love my PDA/phone.. but... this issuse really bugs me cos i used the phone for business and it always happens when a important call arrived... :evil:
Pls, Lets Vote with your honest answer...
Derek
No problems here....
What i've experienced is that sometimes the ringing sound is very quite even though the volume is at maximum. I make a soft reset and everything's back to normal.
NO SOUND
I have also experienced the same. I normally have to do a soft reset to fix the problem. Seems its a firmware issue to me.
One more issue is that we need to disable the power off system setting after 3minutes.
If not, a phone call will be automatically ended after 3 minutes talking.
i have also experienced this problem. i had a important caller call me twice and i didnt hear my phone ring. it was also next to me. luckily, i had my backup phone with me when he tried that line.
agreed that we shouldnt have to soft reset to get back the ring tone functionality. i personally think its a caller id version problem, but thats my opinion cause its easier to fix. i just hope it isnt a firmware problem since i wont hold my breathe on O2 releasing a rom upgrade in my phone version.
im going to try some reg tweaks to see if it will help, once my main pc is up and running (currently moving). i just dont want to go back to an older rom because of a ringing problem. but it IS a big problem for most of us.
ps. sorry about the spelling mistakes and punctuations. im on my pda at a coffee shop.
Yup I have see the no sould on outgoing, no sound on incoming, reset does the trick for me. Also feel that the sound is low in general (even if set to max)
Ha.. i call XDA today in their headoffice in Singapore. The CS guy told me.. they know this issue and say there will be a new (Rom) or patch release very soon.
After seeing the vote result. I believe that the issue is do to software, not hardware.
I have a firend that design such product. he told me that it could be that DSP script is not written well. He said, the Echo Cancelling must be overflow causing the unit to manufunction. and after reset, the overflow will be clear out, so the unit function again.
I hope O2 is really releasing a new patch to fix this issue. If not, i think i am force to go back to my Sony Ericsson P910i or one PDA and one phone option.
i'm glad that O2 recognises the problem and not passing it on to other people. thanks for the information rcbear. glad you took the extra steps get them looking this way.
i hope "soon" means in a waek or two.
same problem
My ringer always works but sometimes, at least every other day. When someone calls me i can not hear them, they can sort of hear me, but the earpiece is dead. A soft reset fix's this problem. Is my issue related to the current issue dicussed in this thread? Thanks
Jeff
I have the problem
But I get it seldom and sporadically.
pda2k (out of the box)
ROM: 1.22.00 WWE
Radio: 1.06.00
Protocol: 1337.38
ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE
AT&T/Cingular
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jeffro01 said:
My ringer always works but sometimes, at least every other day. When someone calls me i can not hear them, they can sort of hear me, but the earpiece is dead. A soft reset fix's this problem. Is my issue related to the current issue dicussed in this thread? Thanks
Jeff
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Hi Jeffro01..
Welcome to the club.. :lol:
Derek
I don't seem to have the ring volume problem, but my phone will get into a state where it rings, I answer the phone, but there is no audio. In the six or so times it's happened, I haven't really determined if the caller can hear me. A reboot fixes it.
I can't pin down any one thing I do to cause it to get into this state, but it seems like a software/firmware issue.
I have this problem too.
I had to send my BT headset for repair for two weeks and noticed it did not happen during that time while it started again since I got my BT back.
When it happens (once to twice a week) I soft reset my SPVM2000 and it then is ok.
Also the BT Orange Switzerland patch makes the problem appear less often.
Phone ring problem got me twice today...
Both times, never heard three calls, but the phone still reports them as being missed.
Gotta be a solution for this or I'll be soft resetting every time I finish a call/use.
I had to send my BT headset for repair for two weeks and noticed it did not happen during that time while it started again since I got my BT back.
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If so I have 2 questions for everyone who has this issue:
1, Do you use a bluetooth headset or any other bluetooth device (gps...)?
2, What is your current bluetooth version and build?
I have Bluetooth build 3900, and I'm using 1.33.
No probleme here
not using BT or WiFi.
Where can I find my BT version?
I don't also have the 3 minutes switch off pb, the PDA function switch off after 3 minutes but the phone remains operational. I often switch the PDA off myself whilst on the phone to save on batteries.
...Hi everyone! (1st post!)...
I get the dead-speaker in calls too...
I took delivery of my first SPV M2000 a couple of weeks ago; it had a few problems, one of which was that the speaker would be dead occassionally when making or answering calls requiring a soft-reset to resolve. I initially thought this might be caused by the device not correctly recognising external hardware had become disconnected - handsfree/BT/car-cradle etc. - but it did seem to be at random.
Orange replaced the device last week; and by day 3 without using any handsfree/cradles etc. and BT and WiFi not even enabled (much less paired/connected); the dead-speaker problem reappeared.
I'm not going to bother chasing Orange about this issue on its own (this device doesn't exhibit any of the other problems I had with my first); as it seems to be a pretty common problem that's going to require a software update to fix. Needless to say when I read that HTC have written a fix I will be on Orange's back to make a fix for their ROMs public. (dreaming?).
Just FYI, both the initial device I was supplied and the replacement have the same software versions (in my sig).
Regards,
Rob.
I circumvented (temporally fixed) the ringtone problem by setting the default ringtone to "None", and also set the phone to vibrate. Then Re-enabled MS Voice Command to announce all incoming calls. The only problem is, the voice isn't loud enough in noisy places, but it does the job in the office or semi noisy environment. I guess this will have to do until a verified fix comes along our way.
Hi all.
I have recently flashed my Herm to have the fantastic Black MAJIK rom. All went very well and I was pleased with the rom. I did have issues with the wireless not working and also with the blank screen detailed below.
When HTC released the update for WM6 for the TyTn, I decided to flash to that rom and give it a try. Again, works well, although I had to flash back to Radio 1.38 to get the Bluetooth to work properly with my Jabra headset. (I am on Orange in the UK - have not tried 1.43, as could not find it!)
The big problem is this :- randomly (could be 6 hours, could be ten minutes), the phone does not wake up from sleep. The lights are still flashing (I have not tried calling the phone - I will do that next time), but it will not wake up. No ActiveSync at all.
Soft reset is the only viable option.
Does anyone know a fix for this? (Yes, I have roamed through a number of forums and tried the link for 'DisableSyncSchedule', but that did not work.)
I have tried to re-flash the rom a few times, even soft-reset before the HTC stuff installs, stopped GPRS traffic and made sure that the IMAP does not connect. Whatever I do, the problem persists.
I have installed the following: HTC TyTn rom:
- SPB Diary
- SOTI Controller
- mfrazz CommManager
- WMG 3G Video Black Keypad
- GreenBatteryFix
- HTC X-Button
- Pimp my Black
I am loathed to revert to WM5, but if that is the only way foreward, then I might need to.
Any help would be superb!
One other thing
Sorry, meant to say that I am currently running with just the base HTC rom and nothing else installed. Let's see how that goes.
First, The radio should not have anything to do with bluetooth. This is the radio rom for cellular calls, not the BT radio.
BSoD question: Do you have a media card? Have you installed apps on the media card? There have been issues with the media card falling asleep. I had issues in the past installing applicaitons on the card. As make sure that you configure mail NOT to store messages on the media card.
Next....Uninstall all applicaiton that you have installed. Do you still have the problem? IF this fixes the problem, reinstall apps 1 at a time untill you figure out which is causing the problem.
I do have a memory card installed, but no apps are installed from it and the mail attachments are not stored on the card but in the memory. I have recently reset the mobile and have noting installed (not even ext rom) and have only set up mail, sync'd and configured for Orange.
Interesting about the radio having no affect, as it made the Jabra work - no other changes made. (I have re-flashed since then, but still using 1.38 radio rom.)
So I get this all the time, I don't have an SD card - so its not an SD card issue.
I've got 2 Tmobile MDA Vario II's and ever since upgrading from the stock Tmobile rom the phone will hang with a black screen but the message light will blink. If I put the phone in flight mode it never does it.
Its happened on the following roms:
XDA Mobile / Faria's rom
All the Black roms
LVSW
It didn't do it with Tmobile WM5 Rom. Tried various radio updates and it doesn't seem to make any difference. I know Jasjammin mentioned he had seen it but nothing further from him on this.
ITS DRIVING ME NUTS
Some other people must be seeing this also? Please help. When it happens no mails/sms or voice calls so its like the phone is switched off. I too am now looking at downgrading back to WM5
I'm wondering if it might be in the boot loader / rom flasher issue? But I sure I've not done anything others haven't done.
Regards,
Neil.
Bump - nobody else seeing this? Find it hard to believe?!
prophetuser said:
....The big problem is this :- randomly (could be 6 hours, could be ten minutes), the phone does not wake up from sleep. The lights are still flashing (I have not tried calling the phone - I will do that next time), but it will not wake up....
Hi prophetuser
I did notice this issue in the new HTC WM6 ROM (not the dopod one) which you have mentioned. But I flashed my ROM to Black Majik and its cool....I didnt notice this problem.
My device is imate JASJAM. I think the black majik ROM is better, but I noticed one more post in this thread mention all black ROM had the problem as I have not come across it yet.
Maybe the new Black Satin which jasjamming is cooking will not have it and probably you may have to try it, until a new HTC ROM update is leaked I suggest you to use black majik.
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read my post
100% solution
SOD CAUSE
IN my whole 6 months having my hermes i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. when I traced the source that SOD had came from it was a bad extended rom flash i done. This cause the device to go sleep after the screen time out, and also if i put the phone in idle mode i had to soft reset everytime.
i flashed an original operator t-mobile rom with the extended rom and all my problems went away.
My device has never been quicker no more SOD and battery life is superb with the new radio 1.47 after one whole day with normal use with 3g internet I am still on 70% battery life.
Now I have the perfect device and i think hermes WM6 crave and addiction will be thinned out as there is not much you can do now with the hermes as to wait for PROTON or fully integrated touchflo working ROM.
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TRY FLASHED A AN ORIGINAL OPERATOR ROM WITH THE EXTENDED ROM YOU CAN USE ROMKOCH TO EXTRACT THOSE TWO AND FLASHED YOUR ROM BEFORE FLASHING WM6 AND GUANRANTEE YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL A MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE HERMES. THATS MY 2 cents
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....i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. ....
What is SOD? please mentione as I am new to the terminologies
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SOD= Sleep Of Death
Definition of SOD
1. A piece of dirt and grass, usually found stuck to the bottom of shoes after running (Or walking) On a muddy field.
2. Short for "Sodomy", meaning anal sex, which comes from the Sodomites of Sodom. This term, usually used in a derogatory manner, can be used to say **** off, as in "Sod off" or it can be used as an adjective "That sodding bastard"
3. An idiot, a fool. Someone you dislike.
4. S(Screen/Sleep) O(of) D(death) - Blank screen nothing happens..
Examples
Man, all this sod was stuck on the bottom of my shoe, and even worse, it dried out and now it's hard as a rock!
Look at that sodding bastard over there, scoping out girls he doesn't even have a chance with when they're drunk!
F'ing sod spilt my drink, and i wasn't having any of that!
Arghh FFS !! Me blinkin phones crashed again, I soo hate you SOD's.
loool ripdool . nice definitions
duttythroy said:
IN my whole 6 months having my hermes i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. when I traced the source that SOD had came from it was a bad extended rom flash i done. This cause the device to go sleep after the screen time out, and also if i put the phone in idle mode i had to soft reset everytime.
i flashed an original operator t-mobile rom with the extended rom and all my problems went away.
My device has never been quicker no more SOD and battery life is superb with the new radio 1.47 after one whole day with normal use with 3g internet I am still on 70% battery life.
Now I have the perfect device and i think hermes WM6 crave and addiction will be thinned out as there is not much you can do now with the hermes as to wait for PROTON or fully integrated touchflo working ROM.
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TRY FLASHED A AN ORIGINAL OPERATOR ROM WITH THE EXTENDED ROM YOU CAN USE ROMKOCH TO EXTRACT THOSE TWO AND FLASHED YOUR ROM BEFORE FLASHING WM6 AND GUANRANTEE YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL A MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE HERMES. THATS MY 2 cents
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hi mate, is it possible for you or someone else to give more specific instructions to do this? I am running Sleuths rom which i am v happy with apart from SOD every now and again in the mornings when the phone has not been used for hours whilst i have been sleeping!
thanking you in advance.
yans.
Hey guys,
First of all, thanks to all the cooks, etc. on this forum - you've made my phone into a fantastic gadget instead of just a good one...
Unfortunately, I'm now having issues with my Orbit.
I've flashed various ROM's to the device over the last year, B&B, Bepe, Meschle ROM's all without a problem (few bugs as others have reported but nothing odd).
Recently my Orbit started crashing (frozen, no reaction to touchscreen or buttons), seemingly when I twist the case slightly or squeeze it slightly (the sort of thing which happens when the phone is in a jeans pocket etc.) Anyway, what appears to be a physical fault...
Sent back to O2 for warranty repair. When it came back to me, it looked like nothing had been done except to flash it back to WM5. (I left the official O2 WM6 on it when I sent it to O2)
Now I cannot get it to crash under WM5, but as soon as I flash ANY WM6 ROM to it, the crashes reappear. I've tried downgrading the Radio ROM to see if it's that, but no luck.
Any ideas what this could be guys?
If physical movement causes a crash it has to be hadware related. The fact it does it with WM6 is just a red herring.
I have the same problem after upgrading my P3300
pnyg
I would agree with you Danny that it's hardware-related, but I CANNOT get it to fail under WM5...!
Is there some part of the hardware which WM6 uses but isn't used in WM5?
I was also wondering whether it has anything to do with the SDHC as the first set of WM6 ROMs I flashed to the device worked perfectly well.
I've also noticed that my friend's Orbit has a white-coloured Rollerball but mine is a darker colour. Do I perhaps have an early model? Which perhaps can't handle SDHC?
Hello
I have a peculiar problem with my Artemis (Xda Orbit). I have 2 situations, some times one, sometimes the other.
Situation 1: Plugging in the headset deosn't turn off the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear through the headset but also through the loudspeaker. In this situation the sound plays about 5% faster that normal.
Situation 2: After having had the headset plugged in, the sound output is not restored to the loudspeaker when I plug it out, when playing with Media Player. It stays mute. I installed TCPMP (another player) and it is the same problem there. But when calling to the phone, the call signal plays well enough through the loudspeakers. I have a MP3 as ring sound (the same MP3 will not play through the loudspeakers when I unplug the headset). However, when picking up the phone, I can not hear the caller nor can they hear me, without the headset. Only a reset restores the sound to the loudspeakers and then I can also call normally. The Radio sometimes recognizes the headset, sometimes not. Once the sound was briefly back to the loudspeakers, as I was shutting down Media Player. I even tried a hard reset to fix these problems, to no avail.
This evening I have Situation 1 but this afternoon it was Situation 2.
There was a problem before, where the speaker would stay on during a normal call, like in hands-free mode. Perhaps the problem was there already. This problem went away by itself but did it really? I didn't use the headset for a while so...
I did two things recently that may have caused this. I did it at the same time, so I don't know which of the two that may have caused the problem, if any of them.
1 I used SDHC-Artemis.cab from Bepe, to be able to use a 8GB card. Worked fine.
2 I tried two adaters I had bought on ebay, which give sound out on a female mini-jack.
Can any of you super-gurus guess what the problem is?
i dont have a ready answer - but you might need to tell us more about your rom - do you have shipped or cooked? details pls.
All shipped. But like I mentioned, I did have the patch from Bepe installed. But I actually now think that the problem was there all along, right from the time I got it used a few months ago.
ARTEMIS (Xda Orbit): Windows Mobile 6.0
ROM: 3.4.207.2 GER
ROM Date: 4/18/07
Hope this helps
your situation 1 has happened to me before, why i dont really know but i felt a complete plonker sitting on the train with my ear phones on and my phone making one hell of a racket!
to fix it i did a soft rest an bam stopped, might hav something to do with plugging in headphones whilst audio coming out, thats about the only thing i may have done and since then ive not had any further problems.
i have since flashed to 6.1 as well that may have been it, i do sometimes get this odd audio error with the FM player, sometimes its very quiet and refuses to be more than a whisper, but if i turn the volume up and down using the hardware buttons it fixes its self.
Windows Bugs im guessing!
It does seem like a Windows bug. Although, once, by fiddling with the plug, the problem went away.
Resetting doesn't do it for me. I would love to flash to 6.1 but my current ROM has Tomtom Navigator built in, with support for the internal GPS and as far as I can read here and there, you can't install Tomtom over a new ROM and expect internal GPS recognition.
Somewhere in a thread I once read about someone who had a link to O2, the provider of the Xda here in Germany, with the 6.1 Update. I haven't been able to find it again, only the 6.0 update. Perhaps I remember wrong...
no worries there mate, ive installed Tomtom on several ROMs and all have worked with the internal GPS, on tt7 you set it as an internal GPS on COM 4 in my case with something like a 56000 rate, on tt6 i think it was called other NMEA or generic NMEA on com 4 56000
just be sure to copy all your favorites, i upgraded to tt7 and silly me lost them all!
Right on dazza! It works just like you said with Tomtom. Thanks mate.
I tried it on another Artemis. I probably have to send in the first one for repair, to see if there might be a hardware problem, before flashing anything, including the guarantie!
No problem mate, it could be hardware, but im sure it happend to me only because i plugged in the headhones whilst it was playing FM radio, perhaps i shorted a couple of pins or coursed it to glitch somehow, to be honest, it might have been just the wrong day of the year! however, im pretty sure that if you flashed the lastest official ROM from the website of your mobile phone provider it will overwrite the modded USPL and put the device back to an original state.....so if you fancy giving the new 6.1 ROM ago you can recover to standard ROM for an RMA if it makes no difference.
Aha, flashing back to normal... "pretty sure" sounds a bit like "not completely sure". I wonder about that and if those tech people who would repair the thing might find traces of the other ROM somehow. Besides, I don't know where to find the original ROM.
Come to think of it, I don't understand how you could have played radio without the headset plugged in. On mine it needs the headset to do anything, saying it needs it as antenna and if you unplug it, it will complain.
yeah it wont work without the hardphones in, but the program launched as i plugged it in.
the only reason i say pretty sure is because im a bit confused by the manual
When the USPL cracks came about there was a thread that said it would revert back to normal after an official flash but i cant find that any more, also the manual for USPL states that it will not survive a reflash, but im confused because on mine ive flashed several ROMS without redoing the USPL so it clearly does remain after a flash.
Did you take out insurance on it? you could always say your dropped it in the bath, they will send you a new one and take the old one at the same time. No need to worry about it then!
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No insurance.
Are you saying that the original ROM will permanently reside somewhere, no matter what you flash?
I found the official Xda Orbit ROM now:
http://rs177.rapidshare.com/files/56...88.90_Ship.rar
No, well yes, kinda..
Im not sure of all the tech lingo but there are several parts to an artemis, the ROM its self where the version of windows is installed, the Radio ROM for the wireless part and the SPL which is something like a boot ROM, used mostly by mobile operators to lock the phone to their software
to update a phone thats Locked, not sim locked thats something different, they developed a patch if you like, that kind of by passes it, so you install this USPL which stands for something im sure, which basicly then lets you flash what ever ROM you want,
if your phones locked you have to do this otherwise you could end up with a brick, ive only ever changed the USPL once and ive put several ROMS on it perhaps my phone is unlocked already so it makes no difference
Anyhow, to warrenty it, if you changed the USPL, you would have to re flash the original USPL and ROM back, BUT and this is why im unsure if flashing a new ROM would work, according to the manual for this USPL it says that you have to run the USLP patch everytime you want to change the ROM, which means that its not perminantly changed at all which means if you put a original ROM back on it, it should be back to stock default...
its a bit vague im afraid, most of the threads seem to have vanished, the poor artemis forum used to be a busy place.