Hi all.
I have recently flashed my Herm to have the fantastic Black MAJIK rom. All went very well and I was pleased with the rom. I did have issues with the wireless not working and also with the blank screen detailed below.
When HTC released the update for WM6 for the TyTn, I decided to flash to that rom and give it a try. Again, works well, although I had to flash back to Radio 1.38 to get the Bluetooth to work properly with my Jabra headset. (I am on Orange in the UK - have not tried 1.43, as could not find it!)
The big problem is this :- randomly (could be 6 hours, could be ten minutes), the phone does not wake up from sleep. The lights are still flashing (I have not tried calling the phone - I will do that next time), but it will not wake up. No ActiveSync at all.
Soft reset is the only viable option.
Does anyone know a fix for this? (Yes, I have roamed through a number of forums and tried the link for 'DisableSyncSchedule', but that did not work.)
I have tried to re-flash the rom a few times, even soft-reset before the HTC stuff installs, stopped GPRS traffic and made sure that the IMAP does not connect. Whatever I do, the problem persists.
I have installed the following: HTC TyTn rom:
- SPB Diary
- SOTI Controller
- mfrazz CommManager
- WMG 3G Video Black Keypad
- GreenBatteryFix
- HTC X-Button
- Pimp my Black
I am loathed to revert to WM5, but if that is the only way foreward, then I might need to.
Any help would be superb!
One other thing
Sorry, meant to say that I am currently running with just the base HTC rom and nothing else installed. Let's see how that goes.
First, The radio should not have anything to do with bluetooth. This is the radio rom for cellular calls, not the BT radio.
BSoD question: Do you have a media card? Have you installed apps on the media card? There have been issues with the media card falling asleep. I had issues in the past installing applicaitons on the card. As make sure that you configure mail NOT to store messages on the media card.
Next....Uninstall all applicaiton that you have installed. Do you still have the problem? IF this fixes the problem, reinstall apps 1 at a time untill you figure out which is causing the problem.
I do have a memory card installed, but no apps are installed from it and the mail attachments are not stored on the card but in the memory. I have recently reset the mobile and have noting installed (not even ext rom) and have only set up mail, sync'd and configured for Orange.
Interesting about the radio having no affect, as it made the Jabra work - no other changes made. (I have re-flashed since then, but still using 1.38 radio rom.)
So I get this all the time, I don't have an SD card - so its not an SD card issue.
I've got 2 Tmobile MDA Vario II's and ever since upgrading from the stock Tmobile rom the phone will hang with a black screen but the message light will blink. If I put the phone in flight mode it never does it.
Its happened on the following roms:
XDA Mobile / Faria's rom
All the Black roms
LVSW
It didn't do it with Tmobile WM5 Rom. Tried various radio updates and it doesn't seem to make any difference. I know Jasjammin mentioned he had seen it but nothing further from him on this.
ITS DRIVING ME NUTS
Some other people must be seeing this also? Please help. When it happens no mails/sms or voice calls so its like the phone is switched off. I too am now looking at downgrading back to WM5
I'm wondering if it might be in the boot loader / rom flasher issue? But I sure I've not done anything others haven't done.
Regards,
Neil.
Bump - nobody else seeing this? Find it hard to believe?!
prophetuser said:
....The big problem is this :- randomly (could be 6 hours, could be ten minutes), the phone does not wake up from sleep. The lights are still flashing (I have not tried calling the phone - I will do that next time), but it will not wake up....
Hi prophetuser
I did notice this issue in the new HTC WM6 ROM (not the dopod one) which you have mentioned. But I flashed my ROM to Black Majik and its cool....I didnt notice this problem.
My device is imate JASJAM. I think the black majik ROM is better, but I noticed one more post in this thread mention all black ROM had the problem as I have not come across it yet.
Maybe the new Black Satin which jasjamming is cooking will not have it and probably you may have to try it, until a new HTC ROM update is leaked I suggest you to use black majik.
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100% solution
SOD CAUSE
IN my whole 6 months having my hermes i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. when I traced the source that SOD had came from it was a bad extended rom flash i done. This cause the device to go sleep after the screen time out, and also if i put the phone in idle mode i had to soft reset everytime.
i flashed an original operator t-mobile rom with the extended rom and all my problems went away.
My device has never been quicker no more SOD and battery life is superb with the new radio 1.47 after one whole day with normal use with 3g internet I am still on 70% battery life.
Now I have the perfect device and i think hermes WM6 crave and addiction will be thinned out as there is not much you can do now with the hermes as to wait for PROTON or fully integrated touchflo working ROM.
p.s
TRY FLASHED A AN ORIGINAL OPERATOR ROM WITH THE EXTENDED ROM YOU CAN USE ROMKOCH TO EXTRACT THOSE TWO AND FLASHED YOUR ROM BEFORE FLASHING WM6 AND GUANRANTEE YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL A MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE HERMES. THATS MY 2 cents
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....i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. ....
What is SOD? please mentione as I am new to the terminologies
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SOD= Sleep Of Death
Definition of SOD
1. A piece of dirt and grass, usually found stuck to the bottom of shoes after running (Or walking) On a muddy field.
2. Short for "Sodomy", meaning anal sex, which comes from the Sodomites of Sodom. This term, usually used in a derogatory manner, can be used to say **** off, as in "Sod off" or it can be used as an adjective "That sodding bastard"
3. An idiot, a fool. Someone you dislike.
4. S(Screen/Sleep) O(of) D(death) - Blank screen nothing happens..
Examples
Man, all this sod was stuck on the bottom of my shoe, and even worse, it dried out and now it's hard as a rock!
Look at that sodding bastard over there, scoping out girls he doesn't even have a chance with when they're drunk!
F'ing sod spilt my drink, and i wasn't having any of that!
Arghh FFS !! Me blinkin phones crashed again, I soo hate you SOD's.
loool ripdool . nice definitions
duttythroy said:
IN my whole 6 months having my hermes i had never had SOD until i flashed the official dopod rom with matt kitchen. when I traced the source that SOD had came from it was a bad extended rom flash i done. This cause the device to go sleep after the screen time out, and also if i put the phone in idle mode i had to soft reset everytime.
i flashed an original operator t-mobile rom with the extended rom and all my problems went away.
My device has never been quicker no more SOD and battery life is superb with the new radio 1.47 after one whole day with normal use with 3g internet I am still on 70% battery life.
Now I have the perfect device and i think hermes WM6 crave and addiction will be thinned out as there is not much you can do now with the hermes as to wait for PROTON or fully integrated touchflo working ROM.
p.s
TRY FLASHED A AN ORIGINAL OPERATOR ROM WITH THE EXTENDED ROM YOU CAN USE ROMKOCH TO EXTRACT THOSE TWO AND FLASHED YOUR ROM BEFORE FLASHING WM6 AND GUANRANTEE YOU WILL SEE AND FEEL A MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE HERMES. THATS MY 2 cents
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hi mate, is it possible for you or someone else to give more specific instructions to do this? I am running Sleuths rom which i am v happy with apart from SOD every now and again in the mornings when the phone has not been used for hours whilst i have been sleeping!
thanking you in advance.
yans.
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Following a couple of previous spontaneous hard-resets, my SPV2000's now developed a liking for it, and I've got a completely repeatable hard-reset issue...
All I need do is press the telephone "Green" button!
What's odd is that if, following the hard reset, I hit the green button after the PDA's started up, but before all the Orange McGuffery installs, the phone just pops up fine. Soon as the Orange stuff's installed, it's back to green=hard reset.
WTF? Anybody else had anything similar?
If that is the case, it would seem that something in your EXtRom is the cause.
I suggest you try updating your rom, or just generally cooking your Extended rom.
Instructions on working with your extended rom are here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_RomKitchen
TheLastOne said:
I suggest you try updating your rom, or just generally cooking your Extended rom.
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Is that as scary as it sounds?
BTW - I've just tried to demonstrate this utterly-repeatable behaviour and... it's working as it should. <cries, bangs head on table>
I had a problem with my first M2000 in that it wouldn't soft reset. Whenever I tried it would just stall and would take over an hour with the sim card out before it would work again.
Finally get a replacement and I found the rom was insanely old. After a couple of questions in the upgrade folder I *just* flashed the phone with the latest rom and a slightly modified extended rom. While it does look tricky, its not.
Look here for more...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19354
xyon said:
I had a problem with my first M2000...
I found the rom was insanely old.
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Thanks - I seem to be fairly recent, though :-
Operator 5.31.1.124
ROM Version 1.31.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/13/04
Radio Version 1.06.02
Protocol Version 1337.38
ExtRom Version 1.31.124 WWE
AdrianC said:
BTW - I've just tried to demonstrate this utterly-repeatable behaviour and... it's working as it should. <cries, bangs head on table>
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And it's back at it.
The phone was ringing, I pressed "Green" to answer it, and got a hard reset. Restored the backup, pressed "Green", and got a hard reset.
This is getting VERY depressing.
Has nobody ever experienced similar? <whimper>
<UPDATE>
It gets worse! The f**king thing's now wiped my contacts and calendar in Outlook.
Excuse me, I'm just off to take to drink.
It would be worth you trying to upgrade the radio to v1.08.00.
My SPV had the audio problem and it seems to have cured that (tho I haven't re-installed much of the 3rd party s/w I had on there yet) so maybe it will help you too.
I upgraded to v1.10.00 initially (from v1.06.00), but couldn't get my wifi link to work properly. I then tried v1.08.00 and everything seems fine.
Me too, just started this week
I am also having spontaneous hard reset problems with my pda2k. I have been using it for about 6 months and for at least two months with all the sw I now have on it. When I press the power button to bring it back from sleeping it starts the "time to align your touch screen" crap. I am fairly sure it is NOT my ROM but in case anyone needs to know that:
ROM: 1.22.00 WWE
Radio 1.06.00
Ext ROM: 1.22.162 WWE
The only other remote possibility I can think of it some combination of the aftermarket 2200 mAh battery combined with the very high side seat bolsters in my new car. Perhaps I am twisting or stressing my unit in my front pocket when getting into or out of my car and that causes a momentary loss of contact with the battery contacts. I have tried to duplicate that with my hands but have not been able to. I guess I will not put it in my pocket for a while to continue testing. To the fellow who lost all of their contacts. I sympathize! That is why I set my ActiveSync to NOT actually perform any updates. I know many like the features of AS but it is not transparent, bidirectional enough nor stable enough for me to embrace. I use Sprite for backups instead and keep the data on my pda2k as "primary". Any more insight on such new and random hard resets is appreciated.
Good info on Himalaya forums also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12802
When ever the phone is in standby for a few minutes or so, it refuses to power back on when I press the power button. The only way to bring the phone back is a soft reset. While it is frozen in standby mode it does not receive phones calls, emails or texts. Im running lvsw 03-26. I noticed it didn’t happen with lvsw 3-20…but it was happening with both versions of xda live. I did a few hard resets to see if that will get rid of it…but nothing. I tried searching high and low on the site and even read wiki for answers but no one seems to know what is going on. I saw a few people post up the same issue but still no help….so I decided to open a new thread. Can anyone help?
It happens. Do you have a Storage Card in? If so, take it out for a while and see what happens. What 3rd party apps are you using too. I know Wisbar Advance causes this issue. Can you list what you're running and maybe I can see if you're having the same problem I was.
I've had the same problem with most WM6 roms. Having upgraded to BlackEd2.0 the problem seems to have gone though...
are you running a today plugin off storage card perhaps?
none of the roms i've tried had power on problems
Sometimes you can have that problem with having a cluttered SD Card or having a program that is accessing online in the background.
I have a 512 storage card. I’m not running much 3rd party apps…I have Mundu IM, Microsoft live search, Google maps, WM black commander, macromedia flash player active x…and that’s it. I Had mundu, live search and Google maps installed to my storage card. After reading rabanJR’s post, I uninstalled them from the card and installed them to the phone. I then went back to the card and deleted all program folders and files….I also did a general clean up of the card. Lets see what happens now.
Also to swampy…im not running much of anything on my today screen….just the messages, calendar and the com manager plug in that came with the rom. That’s all. Lets hope for the best.
Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
funny thing, that just happened to me today. greed led was flashing, but i couldn't get out of standby mode without soft resetting. maybe some kinda software issue? Its the first time it's happened to me since going to wm6. i did notice it before however.
rzanology said:
Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
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maybe try a hard reset?
What Radio Rom?
Have you flashed a new radio lately? If not, what radio ROM version do you have? I had an issue with my TyTN that was definitely a radio issue. Flashed to 1.38.0.11 and haven't had a single issue with freezing since.
Just an idea, of course.
rzanology said:
Bad news, it froze up twice again today. I’m all out of ideas….any more suggestions?
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yes sir...i tried many hard resets. A radio upgrade is one of the things i tried...i saw a few people trying it. i went to 1.34 though. im going to flash to 1.38 riiight now! im desperate right now. i'll let you know how it goes.
I had the same problem until I upgraded to black 2.0. I had the radio 1.38.0.11 from the time I upgraded to wm6 and my 8525 was freezing until upgrading to black 2.0 solved my problem.
well i have good news. i upgraded to LVSW(2007/04/08) last night...and so far so good. didnt freeze once today. hope the issue is gone for good. thanks all for the help.
same exact issue here running LVSW 03-26 (goes unresponsive while in standby, green blinking LED, soft reset to recover). 2gb card installed...i'll try removing it to see if freezes go away.
rzanology: if LVSW 04/08 fixes the issue, please post back and let us know!
installed (all to device, not card)
salling clicker
resco explorer/registry/ftp/today
kyphur hold comm button toggle
wmxl apps 8525 keyboard fix
shogun cing
will do...one more note...i updated to 1.38.11 i think it was. what funny is right after i updated the radio the phone froze on the first standby. while i was coming back to post i saw the new rom update for lvsw.
This has a been a long reported problem on WM6 ROMs. 'wont wake from sleep' is the common phrase. Radio and bacground app using net I think was the problem, but no real solution if I remember correctly. On LVSW 3 26 I have gone weeks without this though. In the beginning LVSW 3 26 still did the freeze but after a week it stopped and works pretty good now. Sounds like MS is behind it since it makes no sense at all. LOL.
rzanology said:
When ever the phone is in standby for a few minutes or so, it refuses to power back on when I press the power button. The only way to bring the phone back is a soft reset. While it is frozen in standby mode it does not receive phones calls, emails or texts. Im running lvsw 03-26. I noticed it didn’t happen with lvsw 3-20…but it was happening with both versions of xda live. I did a few hard resets to see if that will get rid of it…but nothing. I tried searching high and low on the site and even read wiki for answers but no one seems to know what is going on. I saw a few people post up the same issue but still no help….so I decided to open a new thread. Can anyone help?
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Wow, I thought I was crazy becasue nobody mentioned this issue before. I had this problem from day 1.
However, i recently noticed that the 1.38 Radio was eating up my battery life and downgraded to 1.34. This combined with installing Black2.0 seems to have taken care of this problem. I just came back from a weekend away from my phone (which i know is a crime since it is so much fun to use) and it woke up right away.
What Radio do you have?
How long are your phones in standby when it happens?
well....bad news again. even after the new rom update it is still freezing. do you guys think this is hardware? I never froze on wm5...i can't see it being a hardware issue. im almost tempted to call cingular and have them send another one, but i dont know how to go back to wm5. for me, the phone will be in standby for 30 minutes or so....then wont turn back on. any more suggestions?
try disabling everything completely.
1 events and notifications
2 beam auto receive
3 bluetooth
4 wifi
5 put device into flight mode
6 all startup items (including those in rom) move to a temp for now
7 disable activesync
8 disable push email
9 disable all today items
1. disable error reporting customer experience
11 remove anything that reads the sd card
12 remove sd card entirely
13 remove sim card
literally disable everything that runs automatically or otherwise.
power down ur phone by pressing power button for 3 secs. shutdown. leave it for 20secs.
power it back up. then test it now.
if u have a problem now then it could be scary bear notifications fix only. u could have a notification queu problem that is causing ur device to contradicory items simultaneously.
this could be caused activesync so no matter which rom u use it comes back via activesync of calendar or tasks.
if at this stage its fixed then bring things back systematically with the most important first like the sim card. turn off flight mode
c how u go. sometimes pda just gets confused and doesnt wake up from a sleep to well (bit like me in the morning... sometimes bed and sleep is just way to good compared to work/life)...
good luck.
Hi all,
As many of you have heard (or experienced), many Hermes units seem to exhibit less than stable behavior with the production WM5 ROM, or even some of the cool ones here.
Browsing the other forum, we are all to familiar with:
1 - Camera taking black pictures
2 - SD Card not recognized
3 - System hangs
4 - Unit gets very hot and drains battery
5 - Using the alarms is out of the question due to reliability
etc.
After two months of testing, I have two choices:
A - Go back to my Wizard 8125.
B - Move on up to WM6, and see if these issues will be resolved.
My question for those of you have taken the WM6 leap is:
"If you have experienced annoying system hangs, battery drains, and so forth, with WM5, have these issues been resolved when you upgraded to WM6?"
I want so badly to stick with the Hermes, and I'd love to learn all about the various WM6's ROMs... But not if this unit will be as unstable as before.
Any quick thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm ready to hit this forum and the wiki, and learn all there is to know about WM6... but NOT if this unit is still going act up.
I eagerly await your quick replies!
To be honest, I think WM6 is more stable overall compared to WM5 on my 8525.
I also have an 8125, and I have WM6 on that as well. The differences in functionality and the nice new interface are well worth it. The key (in my opinion) is to pick a ROM without all the extra 'garbage' added in, and be careful about the 3rd party apps you add. The core OS is very solid.
Generally speaking WM6 is faster with less hangs.
My only gripe with it is that after you have about 300 sms messages, typing gets slow .... like really delayed ... to solve this i turned the Autospeller thingy off, and it seems to be working flawlessly now!
Compatability is great, it actually just WORKS! .... *cough* most of the time *cough* ... no seriously it rarely hangs, and only the really old applications don't seem to run.
Alarms, christ don't get me started ... i personally just add a calender entry, with the alarm function turned on, it always works and reminds me 15 mins earlier than the desired time
My unit only gets hot while in my pocket a lot or while charging ... i have radio rom 1.41 and the battery life is good, but not as good, i advise 1.40 (for my device it worked best)
SD card not being recognised? never had that problem with WM6
Camera taking black pictures? ... well moving it out into the light generally helps, but out of 300 pictures so far none have been black!
i've also noticed that boot times are slightly quicker
and using IE is MUCH faster and smoother
WM6 is more visually pleasing and is smoother with less hangs. I'm using Sleuth's VARIANT of LVSW ... and its good, i'm an anti-black guy, Black just doesnt do it for me, too unreliable (IMHO!) but well done to JJ for it all, i'm not knocking him, just my personal experience
dropped calls or missed calls are a thing of the past with WM6, i suffered SO MANY during WM5 ... also the lack of OEM images is good, byebye orange customisations horay!! (backup your extended rom 1st, it might be useful later on)
i completely agree with the above statement.
WM6 is great. Haven't had any problems with it. but choose your ROM carefully. I use LVSW, and tried Black Dymond. Both were great, i personally had better luck with LVSW. Radio 1.41 seems to be working well for me, I haven't tried 1.40, so i can't speak to the battery life. make the WM6 jump. you won't be sorry.
WM6 works for me
I had some of the problems you described with WM5 that came with my JASJAM. I have since upgraded to WM6 using the Elf version of LSVW. It works very well for me so far. The only thing to watch out for is that after installing the WM6, it somehow changed the device id and my WebCamera Plus app would not activate anymore. I have to call the Ateksoft to issue me another activation code.
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I had some of the problems you described with WM5 that came with my JASJAM. I have since upgraded to WM6 using the Elf version of LSVW. It works very well for me so far. The only thing to watch out for is that after installing the WM6, it somehow changed the device id and my WebCamera Plus app would not activate anymore. I have to call the Ateksoft to issue me another activation code.
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There's always going to be these small problems with an upgrade, but i think it's still agreed that WM5 < WM6
Hey hey!
These first five posts are VERY encouraging!
I am starting to get excited about it now...!
I'll wait to see who else can offer their opinions.
Thanks guys for the great news!
Michael_514 said:
Hey hey!
These first five posts are VERY encouraging!
I am starting to get excited about it now...!
I'll wait to see who else can offer their opinions.
Thanks guys for the great news!
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No one elses opinion matters.
My only regret with WM6 is not taking the plunge sooner. See my signature for my configuration.
I am using black dymond 3.5 for past two weeks now and so far it's just rock solid and fast. No hang ups. Quick response to buttons / commands. No drop calls. Smooth operations. Nice visual interface. No complaints what so ever.
My prior cingular rom was stable but too slow and clumsy.
Anybody who is confident in performing upgrade should do it especially as now the risk of bricking the device is very low with Hard SPL 2.10 Olipro.
My 2 cents
Michael_514 said:
Hi all,
A - Go back to my Wizard 8125.
Well, I must say that my experience has been awsome with many of the roms on my 8525 especially JJ's stuff, yes I am a devoted black follower . My experience with the wizard or 8125 was horrible, never modified it at all so i don't know how it does otherwise but I thought it was a piece of ****e.
In conclusion my advice is go wm6 and you will have a new addiction. It is faster, more memory and of course the many other perks like when you get to show your friends that your already runnin wm6 and their stuck with 5
Just follow the steps hard spl, radio then rom and you should be just fine.
I almost forgot, the only times I have experience problems/ instabilities was when I installed things to storage card rather than main memory.
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I have SoftBank X01HT... I've just upgraded my ppc to Black diamond 3.5 and it works perfect... But I still had the same problem with capturing image in the dark place and it comes up with black picture.. the flash doesn't help at all.. it seems like it's not functional... I hope someone could help me with this... Any Advice? Please feel free to tell me.. I'm waiting.. thanks in advance....
Okay, guys!
I am sold!
I will do my readings; check out the various ROMs, and away I go!
And of course, Hard SPL is a must!
And I agree with the post a few posts back... I am all for a less bloated ROM.
I use my PPC for very specific tasks (Adobe Reader, Outlook, GPS, phone,voice command)... and the less junk/crap/freeware/shareware/malware/utils/bloatware/games I have installed, the better.
I will do some investigating, and I shall take the plunge!!!
Thanks!!!
Michael_514 said:
Hi all,
As many of you have heard (or experienced), many Hermes units seem to exhibit less than stable behavior with the production WM5 ROM, or even some of the cool ones here.
Browsing the other forum, we are all to familiar with:
1 - Camera taking black pictures
2 - SD Card not recognized
3 - System hangs
4 - Unit gets very hot and drains battery
5 - Using the alarms is out of the question due to reliability
etc.
After two months of testing, I have two choices:
A - Go back to my Wizard 8125.
B - Move on up to WM6, and see if these issues will be resolved.
My question for those of you have taken the WM6 leap is:
"If you have experienced annoying system hangs, battery drains, and so forth, with WM5, have these issues been resolved when you upgraded to WM6?"
I want so badly to stick with the Hermes, and I'd love to learn all about the various WM6's ROMs... But not if this unit will be as unstable as before.
Any quick thoughts would be appreciated.
I'm ready to hit this forum and the wiki, and learn all there is to know about WM6... but NOT if this unit is still going act up.
I eagerly await your quick replies!
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Hi, I have similar problems. I am trying to find out what's going on and the symptoms are like you say: battery drains too fast. Let's say it the battery gets hot, there's something wrong. If you measure the current usage with ACBPowerMeter you will see a high load, like 300-400ma, even with all stuff off, radio off, wifi off, incoming beams off, bt off etc, nada. Now, if you pull out the battery, leave the device the some hours, then start again, power it up, activate GSM and everything, you should be luck and see a current of maybe as low as 30-60ma, even with full brightness on the display. And one time it was okay the whole day, but then all of a sudden, maybe after I hooked up with Activesync or got an SMS, it's gone bananas again.. sigh.. There's gotta be something strange that's completely wrong. I've tried many radios no difference, I've tried bandswitch to limit to GSM only as I live in a area with maybe not super quality 3G signal, did not sort out the problem yet. I had WM6 from LVSW 19-05-2007 with all kinds of radios, then moved on to Pro Black, same problem, but will no try black dymond as someone else mentioned problem was gone with that ROM.
Please all, anyone else with these problems? Any good ideas what this can be? If the device is off for a long time, and I mean off as in battery pulld out, what difference does that make to having the battery off a short while, let's say some minutes? Is there some memory-stuff here? My device is just a week old, never wanted to use a native language WM5 that was in it, hoping this problem will be fixed..
thanks
Update:
I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
I use WM6 on both my 8525's without significant probs; battery drain seems less with radio v.1.38 than 1.40 or greater although use Band Switch to keep phone on GSM when not cruising the net; initial boot up is faster; I've not had overheating probs, no micro SD card issues . Wish I'd gone to WM6 much sooner, but I think having the Cingular 8525 makes a big difference as well.
My battery gets hot and discharges too quick even with radio off. I've tried all radios, am at 1.34 now, will try the 1.43 later tonight if I am able to fully charge battery quick enough... The thing is, if I remove battery for some hours and start over, it's okay, 40ma, radio on etc. Then, at some random point in time, the phone can just lay on the table untouched, it starts consuming battery as crazy, 300-400ma, measured by ACB Power Meter. It's dricing me nuts... I've tried to kill processes, to watch what's going on... I don't have a clue yet, except from there's something "running wild"..
Update:
I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
Hi all!
Okay, I am taking the plunge!
I think I'll stick with Radio 1.40, which I have instealled. Hard SPL is also installed...
...so, the only decision is to figure out which ROM!
I have rounded the choice down to two, based on what I've read.
I'm either gonna go with LSVW or Elf's version of LSVW.
Both are downloaded and sitting on my hard drive, ready to roll.
I just hope I can still use PocketMirror; iGuidance; and spb Pocket Plus.
We shall see!!!!
Any final suggestions are welcome!!!
Thanks!
What have you got to lose?
Just follow MrVanx's guide and enjoy it.
Unwired,
You actually bring up an EXCELLENT question!
"What have I got to lose?"
The simple answer: Time!
As much as I enjoy my hobby that involves tweaking PC's, PocketPCs, laptops, gadgets, and so forth...
...I am an attorney and I do run a business.
This means my time is very important and quite valuable to me.
For every hour I spend tweaking; resintalling apps; customizing e-mail settings; testing the phone; resyncing my business contacts with PocketMirror; researching the proper registry hacks....
...that is an hour I lose making MONEY!
So... As much as I would lllllllove to play with and test single new ROM and its variant, and as much I enjoy spending my day enjoying playing with the latest and greatest operating systems...
It kills me when I can't service clients, and when I can't run my business, because I am busy YET AGAIN(!) resintalling my PocketPC.
That's why I love getting opinions before I move ahead...!
So there ya go... I have no time to lose!
GilesTheAlmighty said:
Generally speaking WM6 is faster with less hangs.
My only gripe with it is that after you have about 300 sms messages, typing gets slow .... like really delayed ... to solve this i turned the Autospeller thingy off, and it seems to be working flawlessly now!
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Now i have arround 700 sms in the Inbox and about 500 in sent items, and typing works good for me, with autospell on... i keep copy of all SMS i send/receive since i get my first pda, my loved Wizard...
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Alarms, christ don't get me started ... i personally just add a calender entry, with the alarm function turned on, it always works and reminds me 15 mins earlier than the desired time
SD card not being recognised? never had that problem with WM6
Camera taking black pictures? ... well moving it out into the light generally helps, but out of 300 pictures so far none have been black!
i've also noticed that boot times are slightly quicker
and using IE is MUCH faster and smoother
WM6 is more visually pleasing and is smoother with less hangs. I'm using Sleuth's VARIANT of LVSW ... and its good, i'm an anti-black guy, Black just doesnt do it for me, too unreliable (IMHO!) but well done to JJ for it all, i'm not knocking him, just my personal experience
dropped calls or missed calls are a thing of the past with WM6, i suffered SO MANY during WM5 ... also the lack of OEM images is good, byebye orange customisations horay!! (backup your extended rom 1st, it might be useful later on)
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Really the difference is not only the ROM you use, but what you do with the ROM...this causes ppl talking about one ROM so quick and other ROM so slow, if you take a search, someone (don't remember) make a speed test after HR every ROM, and the results shows the ROMs aren't so different.
Of course if you havn't time for this, this isn't your forum
Regards.
I am running an unlocked 8525 showing on boot
M05 R1.16.00.60
S04 G32.53.7018.01H
B06 D 3.62.07.DVH
I have installed CRCs r10.04 dated fifth May and WiFi seems to be auto enabled on boot with no appreciable power problems
As soon as I start using the phone, everything starts to go wrong at once: It will make a call but then not receive any at all. And it wont easily turn on or off. Taking out the battery resets the unit, - obviously. otherwise the unit starts heating up and the screen acts sluggish freezes often after I have made a call. I dont remember the last time it actually received a call!
The only program which starts on boot is iFonz. Whatever else is wrong with it, it clearly needs reflashing though I dont really know with which ROM. Is there some incompatibility between iFonz and the Hermes? Or is this a clear case of flash with a Cingular ROM and then with whatever ROM you want? (BTW this is actually the first Rom I have flashed to this unit after unlocking)
iFonz
licensedtoquill said:
I am running an unlocked 8525 showing on boot
M05 R1.16.00.60
S04 G32.53.7018.01H
B06 D 3.62.07.DVH
I have installed CRCs r10.04 dated fifth May and WiFi seems to be auto enabled on boot with no appreciable power problems
As soon as I start using the phone, everything starts to go wrong at once: It will make a call but then not receive any at all. And it wont easily turn on or off. Taking out the battery resets the unit, - obviously. otherwise the unit starts heating up and the screen acts sluggish freezes often after I have made a call. I dont remember the last time it actually received a call!
The only program which starts on boot is iFonz. Whatever else is wrong with it, it clearly needs reflashing though I dont really know with which ROM. Is there some incompatibility between iFonz and the Hermes? Or is this a clear case of flash with a Cingular ROM and then with whatever ROM you want? (BTW this is actually the first Rom I have flashed to this unit after unlocking)
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I am also using an AT&T 8525 and use the ifonz program and have no difficulty using it - now, I do not have it starting on boot, so that may be an issue with your device. Could also be the ROM? I have used several ROMs and use the ifoz program on all of them and have no problems.
Azomus said:
I am also using an AT&T 8525 and use the ifonz program and have no difficulty using it - now, I do not have it starting on boot, so that may be an issue with your device. Could also be the ROM? I have used several ROMs and use the ifoz program on all of them and have no problems.
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Hate to sound lke a newbie but I was hoping I wouldnt receive a message like yours telling me that iFonz works with lots of ROMs. I suppose i should reflash another ROM anyway (MaRaHox seems to be flavour of the month at the moment and I tend to stay with successful flashes) and wonder how I can isolate the problem?
Even worse, mine is a direct flash from Cingular (meaning there is unlikely to be interim corruption which could be cured by reflashing the manufacturer's ROM) so I cant really reflash the Manuf and hope the problem will go away
I would go for CRC 11.2 myself, Thats what MaRaHox's is based on, well, no I think his last rom was based on 12.3 (?)
I use CRC's 12.4 and find it very fast and stable (bar glitch between HTC button (yuck) and the themes)
Hello XDA Rhodium Community!
I've been lurking these forums for a few weeks since I purchased a TP2 about a month ago.
I own a Verizon CDMA TP2 and GSM unlocked it for use with my T-Mobile sim card (pay as you go). I have successfully tried many of the custom roms available here and settled on using Mr. X's latest Sense UI release for it's excelllent speed.
The phone worked great for about 2-3 weeks before I started to get a problem with my backlight/screen.
If, for any reason, the screen goes into sleep mode or shuts off it WILL NOT COME BACK ON until I reset the phone. The screen dim function no longer works either, it's either 100% brightness or it's completely off. I re-flashed to many different ROMs (including Verizon stock and the Bare Naked ROM), ran task29, reset storage, and anything else I could think to wipe the memory and the problem continues to occur.
Needless to say this is very annoying. I've been working around it for now by turning off ALL POWER saving options and attempting to keep the screen on at all times, but it will still turn off if I place my head on it during phone calls or accidentally press the backlight button on the top.
Anyone have any clue how to fix this? I love this phone and really don't want to have to buy a new one because of this
Has anyone else run into this problem???
well mine sometimes does this... however tis like if i try messing with it when its booting up... if i leave it for the 5-10 mins it sometimes takes to fullly wake up then its fine.
I always allow it to fully boot before using it. It wake up again no matter how long I wait.
Anyone have any ideas?
Hi
Having just joined the Touch Pro 2 club from the Touch Diamond 2 and creating a custom ROM, the only thing i can think of is this:
CDMA TP2's have a few things different in hardware to the GSM ones.. Perhaps there is a driver conflict now causing a SOD (Standby of Death)
Craig
I am having the same problme as the OP. I've had my Verizon TP2 for over 6 months without this problem, the last 2-3 months running a custom ROM. A few days ago the SOD started and I have not found a solution. I have cleaned it with Task29 and tried a number of ROMS (including going back to the "official" VZW MR1/WM6.1 release) with no luck. I'm now running Android in order to get through the day. I think the only solution is a hardware exchange with VZW (although it's not a hardware issue).
Try installing LUMOS to avoid SOD
i have a couple of TP2 with the SOD problem.
I read several post recommending LUMOS, so i did a quick test and it seems that it's really solving the SOD and also giving a little more battery dimming the screen.
Give it a try and let us know your comments.
I've tried LUMOS, but no luck. WM can't control the brightness and neither can LUMOS. I'm starting to wonder if I've got a bad light sensor.
audiomixman said:
I've tried LUMOS, but no luck. WM can't control the brightness and neither can LUMOS. I'm starting to wonder if I've got a bad light sensor.
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You've got the wrong backlight.dll driver. I had this while experimenting with Topaz drivers on my GSM Rhodium. I also got a Standby of Death (SOD) with the Topaz drivers.
Craig
I'm all up for trying a different driver, but I've hard reset a number of times and flashed back to carrier ROMS with no luck. Wouldn't that have put the correct driver back? I was also running a single custom ROM for months with no changes with the SOD started to happen. Howevere, if you could post the correct driver, I'd appreciate it.
Hi,
I am also getting this problem, mine is a GSM, original rom was from vodafone uk, 6.1. I am on my 3rd tp2 from vodafone after complaints of this problem and within a couple of months use i get the SOD.
Its not as bad as the OP but i normally get the SOD a number of times per week. I have tried my first custom rom a couple of days ago (deepshining x10.235xx, i love it) with the aim of solving this problem but since i have had SODs 3 or 4 times in the last two days.
I am wondering if its a memory/ram issue as my TP2 after boot up starts with about 60-65mb free ram and with a little use the best i can get with all programmes closed is only 45mb (after using clean ram).
i do not believe it is a hardware issue because i have had the same problem with 3 phones now.
any solutions please let me know.
@audiomixman - when you flash back to carrier, do u flash back to the shipped SPL, ie remove HardSPL? I'm unable to post the correct driver as i think it needs to be cooked into the rom. I also have the GSM ver.
@rob_cunningham - I wouldn't think its memory as i routinely get down to 22mb with opera and music n about a weeks use. I also would guess if you've HSPL'd it, that could be the issue.
I don't really think its a hardware issue, more driver / poss HSPL
@both - does it happen on a clean hard reset build with no other software installed?
Craig
Craig,
I haven't removed the HardSPL because all the notes on the relocker thread say to only do as a last resort before returning device for warranty purposes.
Without removing the HardSPL, I have reverted to my carrier's 6.1 and 6.5 ROM releases and still get the same result without any software reinstalled. Right now I'm back to booting up with MightROM but with nothing installed. Once booted into WM, I go to Android. At least with Android while the screen won't quite turn off (it goes to "black" but the backlight is still on), it will come out of standby.
If you search, you will find many casues of SOD, although essentially there are two primary causes:
-Bad light sensor (actually pretty common)
-Conflicting drivers / IRQ overlap
for many, unchecking the box that allows WM to automatically control your light settings does the trick, others that does nothing. If you have a a bad light sensor, this usually works.
If you have a driver issue or IRQ conflict, usually not and going to a new ROM can help, but not a cooked ROM, as there are so many variations of hardware/software combinations for the TP2 in various countries / carriers that only real solution is to get back to the original shipped state of the phone with the carriers ROM and experiement from there. Many of the add-ons, like photo software, games, utilities all have some code that uses the light sensor and screws up the IRQ settings.
For me, I had the problem with the original ATT ROM, but the recently released update with Sense 2.5 solved my problem.
Good luck, not an easy one to find a solution to.
Hmmm, in that case, i'm lost sorry.
As the previous post mentions, I don't use the automatic backlight (and never have) you could try disabling it and seeing what happens.
Craig