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MDA III - Newbie Set-Up Confusion (MSN Messenger)

Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt

OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt

I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.

I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?

I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet

Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !

Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.

I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?

Exchange Sync Kicks Dial Up

So, I am having this issue that when ActiveSync (on the Pocket PC) goes to sync with exchange, it'll kick the dial-up connection that my PC has (via bluetooth) to the internet so that it may sync. Its really bizzare and driving me nuts. Can anyone lend a hand?
My setup:
Audiovox vx6600 (EVDO for Verizon)
Firmware 2.03
ActiveSync 3.8 -- using an Exchange 2003 server syncing "Items as they arrive" (note that changing this to scheduled does not fix the issue).
What happens as as soon as ANY application on the Pocket PC tries to sign itself onto the web, it decides to kick the DUN call that the computer made. This means the computer gets disconnected, very irritating.
The problem seems to lie in the fact that DUN connections are not seen as real phone calls, so they are kicked in preference of a data connection. This happened this 1.35 firmware and is still happening with the 2.03 upgrade. When I delete the connection on the PPC completely, it seems to connect fine and will never get kicked. This, however, is an annoying, half-ass work around.
Does anyone know a way, in short of making an app to do it (which I'm tempted to do if I can't solve this), to make the DUN connection take preference over the data connection, so that the laptop doesn't get kicked?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Andre
http://blog.decav.com/andre/

Blackbeery GPRS and WIFI drives me nuts....

Hi there!
Has anyone an idea, how to make the Wifi and the Blackberry GPRS
Connection work at the same time?
It drives me nuts, as i am turning on WIFI, the Blackberry GPRS gets
disconnected. BUT, in 99% of the cases it reconnects the GPRS within
5 seconds. So there is not enough time to connect to any WIFI AP.
As i want to sync via WIFI its very annoying.
I know i can turn of the Radio, so that GPRS is disabled, but then
i cannot receive any phone calls, thats NOT what i want.
Any ideas, anyone???
cheers
Darwin69
PS: i forgot: Using Blueangel MDA III from Austrian T-Mobile, with newest Austrian German ROM from T-Mobile (like the one on the xda ftp).
PPS: Thanx for the extrom unlocking tool, really good stuff.

I must admit, I've never had that problem, but I make sure that I close ALL applications before turning on the WiFi. It can take 10-20 seconds for the WiFi interface to estbalish a connection and get an IP address. During that time, the device will try and connect via GPRS when you launch email, internet explorer etc

Hi!
The great problem is not an application. the problem is the
blackberry service, which you cannot deactivate without loosing
all data and settings :evil:
thanks to t-mobile
cheers
darwin69

Ouch that could get expensive if you didn't realise - I'm glad I don't have blackberry services, just plain old POP3 & SMTP email

hi!
no it actually doesnt, because t-moblle has an extra gprs setting for the blackberry client. when you are connected with the blackberry gprs, there are no costs. on the other hand, you can only use the blackberry service with this gprs connection, no internet, nothing.
its really annoying. No one else any ideas about that ??? pleeeease :roll:
cheers
darwin69

Blackberry and GPRS
Hi,
just use a taskmanager like "supertasks" which supports starting and stopping of services. Go to the services tab and stop the blackberry service. Then you can use WiFi as you like and afterwards you just turn on the service again. Nice handling so.
Wolfgang

Question about internet access

I'm quite sure I have my xda iis configure incorrectly.
When I go into connections. There is only one entry. That is "my work network". I have my isp set up in there so I can access the internet via gprs.
This works perfectly. I have outlook checking my email every 5 mins.
Here's the problem.
When I connect it to my computer, it still checks for email, but it doesn't use gprs, it looks like it uses the network my computer is on. (which is great!)
Now, the problem I'm having is when I disconnect it from the cradle gprs does not start back. it says its using the grps connection, but never connects. (I can tell that it's not doing anything because the computer speakers dont' make their normal noises when the phone is communicating with my wireless provider).
Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong? do i need to provide more information?

Download the pdf file from PapaDocta's post in 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21876'. Your Connections screen should actually look like shown in the picture below. I actually needed a hard reset coz I had checked the "network connections" in the non volatile memory, and it kept loading earlier settings which caused the problem. A hard reset, and following the instructions in the pdf sorted my internet access problems out!

Orbit as modem for Laptop on hols?

Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks

I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.

Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers

It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.

USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
TangerineTractor said:
I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.

i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?

toosas said:
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!

This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs

Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)