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GPRS with xdaIIs

hello all,
How can i make it so, GPRS stays on all the time?
right now, it connects to GPRS when an internet connection is needed by an application, but diconnects when done.
Can I have it on all the time, even when the xdaIIs is idle?
Didn't have that issue with my previous xdaII.
Thx in advance for your help.
Glad.

um, I'm VERY new to this & really feel that I shouldn't be answering a post for at least another few months, but have you tried changing your preferred wireless data conection channel to "GPRS"?
For me after I do that it just stays on untilI shut it off.

Thanks for the reply,
where is that setting located? can't find it

connect to the gprs munually from the signal icon and it will stay on forever or until you lose signal. If you set the gprs to be your default connection and another app calls it, it will disconnect automatically when done. So your best bet, and this is what I do and I stay connected 7-10 hours at a time is to connect manually and it will stay on.

Hi, resently I'm having problems with the Internet connection. I used to have internet connection practicly all the time but know very often on the day I lose conection and have the soft reset to conect again...
Some of you, can sugest something?

Imate PDA2K using 3G/UTMS phone as modem for VOIP (SKYPE)

I have Skype runing fine on my PDA2K using WIFI however it doesn't seem to work at all well when I have only a GPRS connection.
I have a Vodafone SE V800 3G/UTMS phone and had 3G data working with an IPAQ 5550 although didn't get a chance to try it with Skype before getting my PDA2K.
Unfortunately the dialup networking client option that was in the bluetooth manager on the IPAQ appears to be missing on the PDA2K. Somebody has done this before on a XDA II see http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58&PN=1
however it looks like it is with an old version of the MS BT stack which I cannot load on to my device.
ROM ver: 1.22.00 WWE
ROM date: 10/22/04
Radio Ver: 1.06.00
Protocol ver: 1337.38
ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE
Using broadcom BT-PPC/PE version 1.0.0 Build 3500
Any ideas.
Graham :?

Which GPRS service offering are you using? If you are using the bulk MediaNet from Cingular then I suspect if won't work. That GPRS connection is designed to support WAP and email only, so it only allows the use of certain ports. I don't know which ports SKYPE uses, but I don't think it's limited to Port 80.

It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K

grahamp said:
It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
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The PDA2K is a 2.5G device - so 3G will not be possible through it.
Are you able to connect to other non-web services via your GPRS connection such as email or msn or the likes? I know with O2 you have an O2 Active connection for web/wap and Mobile Internet for everything else.
You could try to get a freeware telnet client and telnet to the skype server on port 80 to see if it can resolve and reach it - this is one way to prove if your connection will allow it.

Both O2 2.5G (PDA2k) and my Vodafone 3G connections (v800) work no problem. I have a connection from my PDA2K to my 3G phone using the 3G modem in the V800 phone across the infrared connection and Skype connects and works. I however want to use Bluetooth rather than infrared as I have to hold my v800 phone right opposite the infrared port on my PDA2K for it all to work. I can't however find a way to create a bluetooth dial up networking connection to my V800 on the PDA2K. On my IPAQ 5550 I had a Bluetooth dial-up connection to the same phone and it worked fine on 3G. :roll:

they troubleshooted that problem at some time (Bt dial up) of our BT
Greetings

GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel

veletron said:
GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
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I was talking on skype over GPRS yesterday. Worked flawlessly. No delay on voice and no cutting of voice.
True, with the wrong GPRS plan you run up a cost, but otherwise it works fine.
3G's major flaw is the bandwidth limitation per AP. At 2mbit it just doesn't work well in populated areas. Besides, most 3G operators frown upon VoIP and file transfers over their network, hence trying to block it. Skype is hard to block since it cleverly looks for open ports, however, that causes voice cutouts and delays.

Hah! Try T-Mobile GPRS lmao. There is no way you can use SKYPE with TMO in US. NO WAY! If someone says you can there are full of sh.. I have a PDA2K and a XDA IIs. I tested them both with GPRS and it sounds like shi.. The only way SKYPE will work with no problems is with WIFI.

Vodafone 3G here in the UK maximum upload speed is 64kbps which IMHO should be enough for SKYPE latency could be a problem though. Unfortunately no futher forward in getting my PDA2K to dial up to 3G phone using Bluetooth. Does anybody know of a cradle that can hold the PDA2K and V800 so that the infrared ports face each other :lol:

Buying an xda2s and will join soon
You might look a bit like dom jollie when walking down the street though LOL. I use a voip and sip client on my 5550 and use this by the multitude of wifi access points around London.I have a voip pbx back at the office that i connect to and make calls from(out to the real world not to just other skype users) I have tried skype over GPRS 3G and wifi and found because of the limited bandwidth it worked in lumps of seconds at a time but was not consistant enough to be able to hold a conversation for longer than a couple of seconds (via gprs - Voda uk) and 3Gwork slightly smoother but still not as consistant as on wifi.This i can only put down to congestion on the networks.. Anyway i suppose i ambiased as i have access to pbx voip remotely..Another cheap way to make calls..LOL :lol:
Regards
Marquee
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MDA III - Newbie Set-Up Confusion (MSN Messenger)

Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt

OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt

I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.

I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?

I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet

Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !

Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.

I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?

Is it possible to use GPRS whilst cradled?

...I have just upgraded to T-Mobile 1.42 and decided to subscribe to T-Mobile UK's Instant Email using Blackberry Connect. This of course uses GPRS and works perfectly wherever I go.
At work, however, I often leave my phone cradled. When I 'sync-up' to the PC, I lose my GPRS connection, and forcing a connect drops the ActiveSync connection. As such, Instant E-Mail stops working.
Some may argue that if I am synced up, I instantly get all my e-mails through the cable anyways, but in fact I also get personal e-mails via Instant Email.
1) Is the disconnecting normal behaviour?
2) Is there any way of keeping a GPRS connection whilst ActiveSyncing?
3) If not, is there any other way of using BB Connect in this state?
Regards,
Darren

disconnecting is normal behaviour - I have not found a way to avoid it

Hi!!!
It´s normal, you only have one chance, sync or GPRS.........if you want to conect by GPRS while your PDA is in the cradle you sholud disable USB conection on active sync
PD:excuse me for me english

Activsync 4.5 and GPRS

Hi,
Now updated to Activsync 4.5 on my laptop - when I connect the phone via USB it immediately makes a connection to O2 GPRS which obviously I do not want as their data rates are high.
Shall I just install and use the program thats been reported here to disable the auto GPRS connectivity.
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
Gavin

gavinlew said:
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
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Now that would just lose them money from the people who don't know any better.
A little off subject here - I went with T-Mobile "web n walk" with my calling plan. Unlimited GPRS usage.

What b******t
So are you sugesting he needs to get a head to cure a headache ?
Obviously NOT, unless of course you work for T-Mobile.
I would suggest you check the options on the ActiveSync software to disable the posibility of syncing over the internet, or perhaps as you rightly found, simply try the software to disable GPRS download.
@Longhair - People get in this forum to seek others opinions and not to be taken a mickey off!