Hi,
Now updated to Activsync 4.5 on my laptop - when I connect the phone via USB it immediately makes a connection to O2 GPRS which obviously I do not want as their data rates are high.
Shall I just install and use the program thats been reported here to disable the auto GPRS connectivity.
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
Gavin
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I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
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Now that would just lose them money from the people who don't know any better.
A little off subject here - I went with T-Mobile "web n walk" with my calling plan. Unlimited GPRS usage.
What b******t
So are you sugesting he needs to get a head to cure a headache ?
Obviously NOT, unless of course you work for T-Mobile.
I would suggest you check the options on the ActiveSync software to disable the posibility of syncing over the internet, or perhaps as you rightly found, simply try the software to disable GPRS download.
@Longhair - People get in this forum to seek others opinions and not to be taken a mickey off!
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Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt
OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt
I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.
I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?
I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet
Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !
Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.
I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?
Hi there!
Has anyone an idea, how to make the Wifi and the Blackberry GPRS
Connection work at the same time?
It drives me nuts, as i am turning on WIFI, the Blackberry GPRS gets
disconnected. BUT, in 99% of the cases it reconnects the GPRS within
5 seconds. So there is not enough time to connect to any WIFI AP.
As i want to sync via WIFI its very annoying.
I know i can turn of the Radio, so that GPRS is disabled, but then
i cannot receive any phone calls, thats NOT what i want.
Any ideas, anyone???
cheers
Darwin69
PS: i forgot: Using Blueangel MDA III from Austrian T-Mobile, with newest Austrian German ROM from T-Mobile (like the one on the xda ftp).
PPS: Thanx for the extrom unlocking tool, really good stuff.
I must admit, I've never had that problem, but I make sure that I close ALL applications before turning on the WiFi. It can take 10-20 seconds for the WiFi interface to estbalish a connection and get an IP address. During that time, the device will try and connect via GPRS when you launch email, internet explorer etc
Hi!
The great problem is not an application. the problem is the
blackberry service, which you cannot deactivate without loosing
all data and settings :evil:
thanks to t-mobile
cheers
darwin69
Ouch that could get expensive if you didn't realise - I'm glad I don't have blackberry services, just plain old POP3 & SMTP email
hi!
no it actually doesnt, because t-moblle has an extra gprs setting for the blackberry client. when you are connected with the blackberry gprs, there are no costs. on the other hand, you can only use the blackberry service with this gprs connection, no internet, nothing.
its really annoying. No one else any ideas about that ??? pleeeease :roll:
cheers
darwin69
Blackberry and GPRS
Hi,
just use a taskmanager like "supertasks" which supports starting and stopping of services. Go to the services tab and stop the blackberry service. Then you can use WiFi as you like and afterwards you just turn on the service again. Nice handling so.
Wolfgang
Hello.
I've got a rather anoying problem
I can't set up my device to automaticly choose to use wifi for programs that accesses the internet.
This causes the phone to enable an gprs connection every time i try to access the internet instead.
I have sucsessfully set ut the phone to connect to my wifi network and the communication works (skype runs)
In troubleshooting on HTC webpage you can find these instructions:
On your handset, 1. Click start > settings > connctions > connections > Advanced >Select Networks: Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using: "Internet".
My problem is that the option "internet" dosent exixt in the menu, can i have missed something in the setup?
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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So what is the best way to get around it??? Another program to help us disable their "feature" and allow us to access the setting we need???
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Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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i hve an orbit but sicne i opeend the box i shoved in my t-mobile sim
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if it is activted how is gprs being used now with another sim??
NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???
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Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???
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a message comes up at the top of the screen saying connecting : o2 Active
If you have wifi on as well they both appear in the connectivity list.
Cheers
NICK
I prefer wifi to GPRS
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
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Hi,
First post here.
I experienced similar problems just like you. What I did was to ring up O2 and asked them to disable GPRS on my line because my XDA Orbit was defaulting to GPRS connection whenever I tried to connect to the Internet using WiFi. I told them that I was very unhappy about it. Needless to say, they promptly disabled it.
After this, I saw an X on the title bar, where the GPRS connection used to show up (next to the signal strength).
I no longer have the default GPRS connection whenever I try to access the Internet via WiFi. This means that I can now surf the Internet from my PDA without having to incur any data charge.
kiwi992.
Well I have no problems, it all works as it should, the programs use the connection already established or connects to GPRS. If it is plugged in on USB it uses that. If you make a Wi-Fi connection it uses that. If you don't make either of those it connects to GPRS. But it won't look to make a Wi-Fi connection first. None of my devices have done that, not just the Orbit.
aloisia said:
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
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That is done on purpose as a security measure, you can not have two simultaneous connections (except if your using the phone as a modem when you can have USB & GPRS.)
Hi, Maskedmaraudore. Thanks for your answer. For me the problem isn't it: often I've both connections simultaneously (I supose, both are connected but only one is working and carrying out data, it's clair).
Problem is: with both active connections (wifi correctly started and GPRS available), but no sessions initiated, I run any program having an automatic connection to internet (explorer, outlook,...), and the device starts a GPRS connection without use the current, and able, wireless connection. Why I must pay with GPRS having my home wifi active???
I've the program "NO GPRS", that I found in this forum, I think, but not always I remember to use it: I only want that HTC choice wifi if it's available.
Thanks,
As a previous Symbian OS user, now quite happily converted to the world of WM, there is one thing which (In my experience at least) Symbian did alot better.... Manage my data connections.
With my Nokia E61, I was able to have the device prompt me which connection type or access point(GPRS vs. WiFi vs. Bluetooth) to use whenever I tried to make a connection. It also allowed me to set default connections for certain applications etc etc...
What I would love to have is the ability to easily tell my device WHICH connection to use without alot of hassle, or fear that my device will connect to GPRS while I am roaming and have access to WiFi instead.
What applications are available to manage this type of thing, and is there any concensus on which works the best? Any and all constructive commentary would be greatly appreciated.
Do you even know about the Comm manager on your device?
You can pick connections that way. Check Schaps updated Comm Manager.
Correct me if I am wrong, but when wifi is available the device automaticely connect through it (even if data connection is still present).
There is one known exception: Windows Live Mobile which always try to use the data connection. In order to enforce it to use the wifi you have to kill the data connexion and cancel the data connexion that WLM will initiate at its start.
My guesses are that an allready opened connexion will stay on the data channel even if the wifi is fired afterward. For instance, if you start to stream a video through your data plan, then start the wifi, the video will still download through the data connexion
I had a P900, I know exactly what you need/want.
wm5/wm6 just cant do it.
you want the device to ask you what connection to use when a program tries to access the net.
you want to simply define a program and it's connection...
well, the guys at M$ didn't think we need to choose ...
Side track abit, if you don't mind.
I'm waiting for the launch of Sony Ericsson P1, which will be on Symbian. Do you know of any site where developers come together to do things to improve the OS? Much like this forum?
This forum is much of a reason why I'm still sticking on to my Dopod...
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Do you even know about the Comm manager on your device?
You can pick connections that way. Check Schaps updated Comm Manager.
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Of course I know about the com manager. UNFORTUNATELY, the device does not just go for wifi when wifi is available... It doesn't care, and defaults to a GPRS connection.
Elivne knows what I'm talking about.... I'm glad someone does.
It's just frustrating when a device doesn't seem to actually the wifi connection that is available to it.
Hey guys,
I was wondering if anyone knows a way to define a priority on the connection to use based on whats currently available, i.e First go for USB (laptop) if available, if not then WiFi if available, then 3g, gprs etc...
Thanks in advance
umm?
if you're connected to your laptop through Active Sync, i'm pretty sure that automoatically will make your phone use your computers internet.
If Wifi is on, that should automatically take priority over your phone's data service. If it doesn't, just disconnect the data service in the Comm manager.
So yeah, what you want is already an implementation of WM.