Hello.
I've got a rather anoying problem
I can't set up my device to automaticly choose to use wifi for programs that accesses the internet.
This causes the phone to enable an gprs connection every time i try to access the internet instead.
I have sucsessfully set ut the phone to connect to my wifi network and the communication works (skype runs)
In troubleshooting on HTC webpage you can find these instructions:
On your handset, 1. Click start > settings > connctions > connections > Advanced >Select Networks: Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using: "Internet".
My problem is that the option "internet" dosent exixt in the menu, can i have missed something in the setup?
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
strongp said:
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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So what is the best way to get around it??? Another program to help us disable their "feature" and allow us to access the setting we need???
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Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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i hve an orbit but sicne i opeend the box i shoved in my t-mobile sim
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if it is activted how is gprs being used now with another sim??
NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???
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Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???
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a message comes up at the top of the screen saying connecting : o2 Active
If you have wifi on as well they both appear in the connectivity list.
Cheers
NICK
I prefer wifi to GPRS
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
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Hi,
First post here.
I experienced similar problems just like you. What I did was to ring up O2 and asked them to disable GPRS on my line because my XDA Orbit was defaulting to GPRS connection whenever I tried to connect to the Internet using WiFi. I told them that I was very unhappy about it. Needless to say, they promptly disabled it.
After this, I saw an X on the title bar, where the GPRS connection used to show up (next to the signal strength).
I no longer have the default GPRS connection whenever I try to access the Internet via WiFi. This means that I can now surf the Internet from my PDA without having to incur any data charge.
kiwi992.
Well I have no problems, it all works as it should, the programs use the connection already established or connects to GPRS. If it is plugged in on USB it uses that. If you make a Wi-Fi connection it uses that. If you don't make either of those it connects to GPRS. But it won't look to make a Wi-Fi connection first. None of my devices have done that, not just the Orbit.
aloisia said:
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
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That is done on purpose as a security measure, you can not have two simultaneous connections (except if your using the phone as a modem when you can have USB & GPRS.)
Hi, Maskedmaraudore. Thanks for your answer. For me the problem isn't it: often I've both connections simultaneously (I supose, both are connected but only one is working and carrying out data, it's clair).
Problem is: with both active connections (wifi correctly started and GPRS available), but no sessions initiated, I run any program having an automatic connection to internet (explorer, outlook,...), and the device starts a GPRS connection without use the current, and able, wireless connection. Why I must pay with GPRS having my home wifi active???
I've the program "NO GPRS", that I found in this forum, I think, but not always I remember to use it: I only want that HTC choice wifi if it's available.
Thanks,
Related
Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt
OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt
I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.
I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?
I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet
Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !
Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.
I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?
Hi guys, I recently destroyed my XDA2 and got a 2s on the insurance
Bluetooth on WM2003 SE if fair poor, but I managed to upgrade the stack thinger to 3900..... so I'm not completely XDA illiterate.
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
It has become clear that I have no idea what I'm doing with regards to networking. Could someone post a quick guide as to how to set up the wifi (from scratch) so that when it finds an unsecured network it will automatically use it for the internet.
Sorry if there's already a thread on this but I really can't find it. Cheers guys
-Mike
just what i need as well, i have just bought a wifi router so i can use the internet on my xda2s.
using the wireless manger -> wireless LAN manager i get:
STATUS: connected to network
SSID: NETGEAR
TX RATE: AUTO
MODE:INFRASTRUCTURE
CHANNEL 11
BSSID: 00-09-5B-D7-DC-2A
MAC: 00-09-2D-0B-C0-A6
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
if anyone has a any ideas it would stop me pulling my hair out.
Sorry to hijack this thread
mike freegan said:
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
-Mike
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Mike, I dont think the wifi first and GPRS next works. It doesnt work properly on mine either. If I try a internet access via gprs and a local wifi is readily available, the system does not automatically switch to local wifi.....I think this could be a microsoft issue than a xda issue.
robboy said:
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
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when u pull out the ethernet cable from the back of the router, can you still surf the net from you xda or PC?? that seems odd. So either you are not connecting to "your" own router, or someone else has a same router with unsecured setup and you were locked onto their service....if you follow what I mean. what happens if you kill the power to your router? you should definitely notice that the wifi service disappear in your xda and PC.
Dont expect a router to disappear by simply unplugging the ethernet cable, if the router is powered up, it will show up on your xda and the PC although obviously there will be no internet access.....
sorry if i wasn't clear. i meant i was still receiving a signal from the wifi router. i could never use the internet on the pda
update:
i can browse my pc files wirelessly using resco explorer, using the standard file explorer i can view the pc files using \\network/c and i have finally been able to connect to activesync.
however i still can not connect to the internet.
Any ideas, from looking on this forum it seems lots of peeps are having problems with this but nobody seems to have the answer
XDA Wi-Fi Solution....It Works!!!!
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to XDA2i (presumably XDA2s is same!) ....
I too had many frustrations connecting the wi-fi...but now I've cracked it, here's how.......
On first very first use (or following a hard re-set) device users are prompted to choose “What do you want WLAN to connect to?” The option bullets are ‘Internet’ or ‘Work’….’Work’ should be selected, this will connect them to the nearest WLAN (if this network is WEP encrypted it should be switched to ‘Open’ rather than ‘shared’ as is often the case).
Next prompt asks for any WEP Encryption ‘Pass Key’ to be input, when doing so omit any ‘-‘ between character pairs. Normal start-up should then be completed. Once device is up and running…..
From ‘Start’ pull-down on the ‘Today Screen’ select…. ‘settings’>’connections tab’>’connections icon’>’advanced tab’>’Select Networks’> pull-down ‘My Work Network’ > ‘OK’ out of selections to save and exit.
Go to ‘Wireless Manager’ in programs, select WLAN icon from main screen (which should turn green to show active), then select mini ‘WLAN’ icon from lower toolbar to see the status of the connection, quality of signal etc.
That did it for me......
Cheers
windupmerchant
Hi,
I have a new O2 Orbit but its connectivity to GPRS, WiFi and via cable/ActiveSync is driving me mad. In turns one or all of them don't work without me making any changes. O2 support have suggested:
- setting the username/password for GPRS, WAP etc - tried
- cleaning the SIM card - tried
- Hard reset - not tried yet, I don't want to have to re-install all the apps
This forum has suggested setting the setting the second drop down on Network Management to My ISP instead of My Work Network (which seems to be a WAP network). That helped for a while then it stopped.
GPRS thinks it has connected (showing the G icon with various arrows) but just doesn;t transfer any data.
Is this a hardware fault? I have a good signal on WiFi and GPRS but connectivity just comes and goes.
Any ideas?
Jon
It also forgets http proxy settings on the work connection when you run Internet Explorer. So annoying! The orbit is unusable if you need to set a proxy for your wifi.
I am having problems of GPRS connecting when i don't want it too!
Does anyone know of an app or setting that will make the orbit require authorisation to go connecting to GPRS? So i am in control of when i spend money!
I've been looking into this myself and found this on another forum.
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I have just installed it and it works perfectly.
doublehard said:
I've been looking into this myself and found this on another forum.
CLICK HERE
I have just installed it and it works perfectly.
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excellent mate! ... just what i need..
cheers for that!
Hi,
Now updated to Activsync 4.5 on my laptop - when I connect the phone via USB it immediately makes a connection to O2 GPRS which obviously I do not want as their data rates are high.
Shall I just install and use the program thats been reported here to disable the auto GPRS connectivity.
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
Gavin
gavinlew said:
I wish the Orbit could just use wifi as the default network connection
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Now that would just lose them money from the people who don't know any better.
A little off subject here - I went with T-Mobile "web n walk" with my calling plan. Unlimited GPRS usage.
What b******t
So are you sugesting he needs to get a head to cure a headache ?
Obviously NOT, unless of course you work for T-Mobile.
I would suggest you check the options on the ActiveSync software to disable the posibility of syncing over the internet, or perhaps as you rightly found, simply try the software to disable GPRS download.
@Longhair - People get in this forum to seek others opinions and not to be taken a mickey off!
whenever I want to sign in to msn live messenger, my hermes tries to connect to gprs connection. even when I have free direct access to internet through wifi connection.
I tried everything but it still tries to connect.
Apart from live messenger I can connect to every type of internet service through the active wifi connection.
Is this a bug o the live messenger ?
Is there any newer version that beats this bug ?
I believe that it is a "feature" of WLM that no user actually wants but the network operators are quite happy with and probably had a say in.
Best workaround I know of is to have a network set up with no connections defined, and select that in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks. You may already have a network defined there called "Wifi" (my Orange M3100 did).
If you do that, all apps will be forced through wifi (if enabled), but if you want to use GPRS, you will have to switch the network back.
Anyone know of any apps that will make it quick and easy to change this with a single button click? I hoped that Phoneweaver would have it in the profiles but it doesn't
Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
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Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
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interesting, it works.
but if I reset, then connect to gprs for any other reason.
and then disconnect.
then it never connects to msn with no gprs connection.
after a reset it works again.
thanks for the workaround...