I have Skype runing fine on my PDA2K using WIFI however it doesn't seem to work at all well when I have only a GPRS connection.
I have a Vodafone SE V800 3G/UTMS phone and had 3G data working with an IPAQ 5550 although didn't get a chance to try it with Skype before getting my PDA2K.
Unfortunately the dialup networking client option that was in the bluetooth manager on the IPAQ appears to be missing on the PDA2K. Somebody has done this before on a XDA II see http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58&PN=1
however it looks like it is with an old version of the MS BT stack which I cannot load on to my device.
ROM ver: 1.22.00 WWE
ROM date: 10/22/04
Radio Ver: 1.06.00
Protocol ver: 1337.38
ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE
Using broadcom BT-PPC/PE version 1.0.0 Build 3500
Any ideas.
Graham :?
Which GPRS service offering are you using? If you are using the bulk MediaNet from Cingular then I suspect if won't work. That GPRS connection is designed to support WAP and email only, so it only allows the use of certain ports. I don't know which ports SKYPE uses, but I don't think it's limited to Port 80.
It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
grahamp said:
It is Vodafone UK's mobile connect 3G/GPRS solution which on 3g is up to 384kbps download and it hands over to GPRS when outside of 3G coverage. I doesn't appear to be limited to specific ports as it works with HTTP, VPN, POP3, IMAP. There is an option to use Port 80 on the PC Skype app but I can't see that option on the pocket PC. At the moment I can't get even get my PDA2K to connect to my phone other than through a serial port. I will test Skype with a PC connected to my 3G phone to see if the data side works however it would be great for other apps if I could use the speedier 3G data connection through my PDA2K
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The PDA2K is a 2.5G device - so 3G will not be possible through it.
Are you able to connect to other non-web services via your GPRS connection such as email or msn or the likes? I know with O2 you have an O2 Active connection for web/wap and Mobile Internet for everything else.
You could try to get a freeware telnet client and telnet to the skype server on port 80 to see if it can resolve and reach it - this is one way to prove if your connection will allow it.
Both O2 2.5G (PDA2k) and my Vodafone 3G connections (v800) work no problem. I have a connection from my PDA2K to my 3G phone using the 3G modem in the V800 phone across the infrared connection and Skype connects and works. I however want to use Bluetooth rather than infrared as I have to hold my v800 phone right opposite the infrared port on my PDA2K for it all to work. I can't however find a way to create a bluetooth dial up networking connection to my V800 on the PDA2K. On my IPAQ 5550 I had a Bluetooth dial-up connection to the same phone and it worked fine on 3G. :roll:
they troubleshooted that problem at some time (Bt dial up) of our BT
Greetings
GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
veletron said:
GPRS is not fast enough for making a skype call. It would also cost you a *fortune* in GPRS useage charges!!
3G is find in the down direction, but for VoIP, upstream is just as important. Anyone know what Voda 3G does upstream?
Nigel
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I was talking on skype over GPRS yesterday. Worked flawlessly. No delay on voice and no cutting of voice.
True, with the wrong GPRS plan you run up a cost, but otherwise it works fine.
3G's major flaw is the bandwidth limitation per AP. At 2mbit it just doesn't work well in populated areas. Besides, most 3G operators frown upon VoIP and file transfers over their network, hence trying to block it. Skype is hard to block since it cleverly looks for open ports, however, that causes voice cutouts and delays.
Hah! Try T-Mobile GPRS lmao. There is no way you can use SKYPE with TMO in US. NO WAY! If someone says you can there are full of sh.. I have a PDA2K and a XDA IIs. I tested them both with GPRS and it sounds like shi.. The only way SKYPE will work with no problems is with WIFI.
Vodafone 3G here in the UK maximum upload speed is 64kbps which IMHO should be enough for SKYPE latency could be a problem though. Unfortunately no futher forward in getting my PDA2K to dial up to 3G phone using Bluetooth. Does anybody know of a cradle that can hold the PDA2K and V800 so that the infrared ports face each other :lol:
Buying an xda2s and will join soon
You might look a bit like dom jollie when walking down the street though LOL. I use a voip and sip client on my 5550 and use this by the multitude of wifi access points around London.I have a voip pbx back at the office that i connect to and make calls from(out to the real world not to just other skype users) I have tried skype over GPRS 3G and wifi and found because of the limited bandwidth it worked in lumps of seconds at a time but was not consistant enough to be able to hold a conversation for longer than a couple of seconds (via gprs - Voda uk) and 3Gwork slightly smoother but still not as consistant as on wifi.This i can only put down to congestion on the networks.. Anyway i suppose i ambiased as i have access to pbx voip remotely..Another cheap way to make calls..LOL :lol:
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Marquee
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Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt
OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt
I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.
I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?
I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet
Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !
Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.
I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?
Hi there!
Has anyone an idea, how to make the Wifi and the Blackberry GPRS
Connection work at the same time?
It drives me nuts, as i am turning on WIFI, the Blackberry GPRS gets
disconnected. BUT, in 99% of the cases it reconnects the GPRS within
5 seconds. So there is not enough time to connect to any WIFI AP.
As i want to sync via WIFI its very annoying.
I know i can turn of the Radio, so that GPRS is disabled, but then
i cannot receive any phone calls, thats NOT what i want.
Any ideas, anyone???
cheers
Darwin69
PS: i forgot: Using Blueangel MDA III from Austrian T-Mobile, with newest Austrian German ROM from T-Mobile (like the one on the xda ftp).
PPS: Thanx for the extrom unlocking tool, really good stuff.
I must admit, I've never had that problem, but I make sure that I close ALL applications before turning on the WiFi. It can take 10-20 seconds for the WiFi interface to estbalish a connection and get an IP address. During that time, the device will try and connect via GPRS when you launch email, internet explorer etc
Hi!
The great problem is not an application. the problem is the
blackberry service, which you cannot deactivate without loosing
all data and settings :evil:
thanks to t-mobile
cheers
darwin69
Ouch that could get expensive if you didn't realise - I'm glad I don't have blackberry services, just plain old POP3 & SMTP email
hi!
no it actually doesnt, because t-moblle has an extra gprs setting for the blackberry client. when you are connected with the blackberry gprs, there are no costs. on the other hand, you can only use the blackberry service with this gprs connection, no internet, nothing.
its really annoying. No one else any ideas about that ??? pleeeease :roll:
cheers
darwin69
Blackberry and GPRS
Hi,
just use a taskmanager like "supertasks" which supports starting and stopping of services. Go to the services tab and stop the blackberry service. Then you can use WiFi as you like and afterwards you just turn on the service again. Nice handling so.
Wolfgang
Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks
I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.
Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers
It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.
USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
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I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!
This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs
Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)
As in the subject...i wanto to make voip calls over 3g networks, not wifi..!!!
It's possible or not??
with Skype 2.2beta works nicely
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with Skype 2.2beta works nicely
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Oh..i didn't say this..!! Skype is perfectly functionally...but..i wish use integrated voip of wm6..!
I use Internet Calling with my TyTN over 3G on AT&T (PDA connect plan) to my local asterisk server. My server sits behind NAT and my TyTN is on extension 500. My Asterisk server has a trunk connection to my Vonage softphone account for outbound calling. Overall, it works very nicely. There's a bit of breakup, but its quite usable. I'm working on a GSM610 codec now that will improve things even further.
My main issue is power. VoIP over the 3G data connection dramatically reduces battery life. It's like constant surfing with PIE.
I use it over T-Mobile's EDGE. Because this is not real 3G, regular calls can't be received while there is a data stream, but my VoIP provider allows me to forward to my regular phone numbers when the VoIP number is off line.
Bottom line, it works perfectly fine with the included software in WM6.
Picked up a softbank X01HT today, my first WM device. It was lots of fun upgrading the Rom to Schaps 4.01 and getting bbconnect 4.0.0.91 working. Everything is great and this appears to be the device of my dreams!
One thing I've noticed though is that if I'm plugged into the USB to charge and activesync enables, the bbconnect service is blocked... likewise if I use the internet.
Any advice if these two scenarios can be overcome?
Thanks for a great community and awesome info!
You can't bypass it while utilizing activesync. As for the internet you have to use the browser that installs when you first initialize blackberry connect otherwise all other browsers will use your internet settings rather than the blackberry connect ipn. You may be able to configure it so that other applications use the bb ipn but since I no longer have my hermes I don't recall if you can. Maybe someone that has bbconnect with their hermes can chime in.
most, if not all carriers seem to not like multiple APNs running although WM6 can handle it.
What is happening is you are not using ActiveSync to surf, rather your mobile network, which shuts down the BN APN for your standard internet
The only time I am able to use both BBConnect and IE is when I am connected to WiFi. Somehow, WM6 establishes connection to WiFi access point and yet BBConnect is still connected to the BB APN.
Strangely I suddenly cannot access the internet at all, is there a way to force the browser to use my Rogers GPRS connection to access the web instead of the BB apn? It is staying on now even when I try and access the internet. Thanks!
Actually I figured it out. If I use the default browser in WM6 it goes nowhere but if I use the Internet Browser in the blackberry program folders I'm fine on the BB apn.