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XDA 2s Wifi Guide anyone?

Hi guys, I recently destroyed my XDA2 and got a 2s on the insurance
Bluetooth on WM2003 SE if fair poor, but I managed to upgrade the stack thinger to 3900..... so I'm not completely XDA illiterate.
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
It has become clear that I have no idea what I'm doing with regards to networking. Could someone post a quick guide as to how to set up the wifi (from scratch) so that when it finds an unsecured network it will automatically use it for the internet.
Sorry if there's already a thread on this but I really can't find it. Cheers guys
-Mike

just what i need as well, i have just bought a wifi router so i can use the internet on my xda2s.
using the wireless manger -> wireless LAN manager i get:
STATUS: connected to network
SSID: NETGEAR
TX RATE: AUTO
MODE:INFRASTRUCTURE
CHANNEL 11
BSSID: 00-09-5B-D7-DC-2A
MAC: 00-09-2D-0B-C0-A6
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
if anyone has a any ideas it would stop me pulling my hair out.
Sorry to hijack this thread

mike freegan said:
However, the wifi baffles me! I have access to an unsecured wireless network with internet access, and my 2s will connect to it. When I go on the the internet on my XDA, even with wifi connected it still tries to connect GPRS to use the internet. If I keep clicking cancel, it will load the page (presumably through the wireless network's internet access).
-Mike
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Mike, I dont think the wifi first and GPRS next works. It doesnt work properly on mine either. If I try a internet access via gprs and a local wifi is readily available, the system does not automatically switch to local wifi.....I think this could be a microsoft issue than a xda issue.

robboy said:
but even when i pull the Ethnet cable (forgot how its spelt) out of the back of the router it still stays connected. so im thinking its more my PC than the xda. the thing is the router came with no software so i have no idea if its connected properly. when i pull this Ethnet cable out of the wifi router o get network cable unplugged. The network card is Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller. Which I have never used.
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when u pull out the ethernet cable from the back of the router, can you still surf the net from you xda or PC?? that seems odd. So either you are not connecting to "your" own router, or someone else has a same router with unsecured setup and you were locked onto their service....if you follow what I mean. what happens if you kill the power to your router? you should definitely notice that the wifi service disappear in your xda and PC.
Dont expect a router to disappear by simply unplugging the ethernet cable, if the router is powered up, it will show up on your xda and the PC although obviously there will be no internet access.....

sorry if i wasn't clear. i meant i was still receiving a signal from the wifi router. i could never use the internet on the pda
update:
i can browse my pc files wirelessly using resco explorer, using the standard file explorer i can view the pc files using \\network/c and i have finally been able to connect to activesync.
however i still can not connect to the internet.
Any ideas, from looking on this forum it seems lots of peeps are having problems with this but nobody seems to have the answer

XDA Wi-Fi Solution....It Works!!!!
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to XDA2i (presumably XDA2s is same!) ....
I too had many frustrations connecting the wi-fi...but now I've cracked it, here's how.......
On first very first use (or following a hard re-set) device users are prompted to choose “What do you want WLAN to connect to?” The option bullets are ‘Internet’ or ‘Work’….’Work’ should be selected, this will connect them to the nearest WLAN (if this network is WEP encrypted it should be switched to ‘Open’ rather than ‘shared’ as is often the case).
Next prompt asks for any WEP Encryption ‘Pass Key’ to be input, when doing so omit any ‘-‘ between character pairs. Normal start-up should then be completed. Once device is up and running…..
From ‘Start’ pull-down on the ‘Today Screen’ select…. ‘settings’>’connections tab’>’connections icon’>’advanced tab’>’Select Networks’> pull-down ‘My Work Network’ > ‘OK’ out of selections to save and exit.
Go to ‘Wireless Manager’ in programs, select WLAN icon from main screen (which should turn green to show active), then select mini ‘WLAN’ icon from lower toolbar to see the status of the connection, quality of signal etc.
That did it for me......
Cheers
windupmerchant

Connecting Laptop to internet by Dialup connect. on pocketpc

Thank you for reading this, I really need your help.
Two options: which one below is true or possible?
1- It is possilbe to Connect my Laptop to internet via Dialup connect. on pocketpc phone? and connect my Laptop to pockect pc phone via Bluetooth.
Or should I use the dialup connection on my laptop to connect to internet using Wireless modem on my pocket pc phone?
does this make sense?
I have Siemens SX66.

You must be a mind reader because I was going to ask the same question.
Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated

I've successfully connected my XDAIIs to laptop for internet access.
On USB craddle, you can
1. Laptop connected to internet ( dial up / lan / whatever ) --> XDAIIs sits on craddle and connect to Active sync ---> XDAIIs can access internet
2. Use XDAIIs as the dial up modem via GPRS and your Laptop is able to access internet. This option u will need "HTC HUB" modem driver.
IrDA, you can
1. Use XDAIIs as the "Virtual" dial up modem via GPRS and your Laptop is able to access internet. This option u will need IrCOMM2k for emulating IrDA port on your laptop to see XDAIIs as its modem on its com port.
Bluetooth
This one i never try. I don't have bluetooth on my laptop :-(

As Forum Elders and experts have been saying...PLS TAKE SOMETIME AND EFFORTS TO SEARCH ON THIS FORUM and u will need the desired.
FYI, one can use 2s/2i/mini/Jam/XDA II ...etc as a wireless Modem via USB/Serial/Bluetooth/Irda.
Pls also take efoorts to read the manual which is provided with...

MR2046 said:
On USB craddle, you can
1. Laptop connected to internet ( dial up / lan / whatever ) --> XDAIIs sits on craddle and connect to Active sync ---> XDAIIs can access internet
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Thank you my friend, This one I already know it.
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2. Use XDAIIs as the dial up modem via GPRS
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Yes, --------GPRS -------- I do not like to use GPRS. I want to use my PocketPC Phone number and dial to an ISP using my ISP account.
Can you help me this. I can connect my Laptop to my Pockect PC phone via BlueTooth dialup connection modem (in my pocket pc phone), but how can I connect my pocket pc phone to the internet using ISP dialup modem and not GPRS.
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IrDA, you can
1. Use XDAIIs as the "Virtual" dial up modem via GPRS and your Laptop is able to access internet. This option u will need IrCOMM2k for emulating IrDA port on your laptop to see XDAIIs as its modem on its com port.
Bluetooth
This one i never try. I don't have bluetooth on my laptop :-(
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thank you, btw: I WAS ABLE TO open my Laptop and put the USB BT dongle inside my laptop and this way, I have no problem, MY laptop is BT enabled now , if you like that here is a link: http://www3.telus.net/thewitt/BT/

hdubli said:
As Forum Elders and experts have been saying...PLS TAKE SOMETIME AND EFFORTS TO SEARCH ON THIS FORUM and u will need the desired.
FYI, one can use 2s/2i/mini/Jam/XDA II ...etc as a wireless Modem via USB/Serial/Bluetooth/Irda.
Pls also take efoorts to read the manual which is provided with...
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Thank you my friend, but if you get my previous reply, I want to conneted to the internet using my mobile number by dialing up an ISP account and not GPRS as I HATE GPRS, it is unreasonably expensive.
Can you help on this. I have searched and searched and searched...

Hi there,
Follow the steps below.Kindly note that to access your ISP, your SIM card should have Data Services enabled from your service provider.Also, the dial up number should be PSTN Number....viz nos start from 1 cannot be dialed from a GSM Network.Check thiis with your Network service provider.
1.FIrst of all pair your device with your laptop BT, so that your laptop checks the services which your PDA offers viz Serialport,DUN., Activesync etc...
2.Now, go to Network connections on your Laptop and opt for make a new connection.Just take care that you should opt for Bluetooth Modem while selecting the Modem.Rest all is same as you had done for your ISP.
3.Now, just dial the connection...your phone shd be able to maka a data call.
Pls let me know if you were able to do so...Best Luck

hdubli said:
Hi there,
Follow the steps below.Kindly note that to access your ISP, your SIM card should have Data Services enabled from your service provider.Also, the dial up number should be PSTN Number....viz nos start from 1 cannot be dialed from a GSM Network.Check thiis with your Network service provider.
1.FIrst of all pair your device with your laptop BT, so that your laptop checks the services which your PDA offers viz Serialport,DUN., Activesync etc...
2.Now, go to Network connections on your Laptop and opt for make a new connection.Just take care that you should opt for Bluetooth Modem while selecting the Modem.Rest all is same as you had done for your ISP.
3.Now, just dial the connection...your phone shd be able to maka a data call.
Pls let me know if you were able to do so...Best Luck
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Thank you hdubli, I will try it and let you.

How about direct dial up to ISP/PSTN from pda phone?
Can we do that?
Imagine, go anywhere only with pda phone.

Yes one can do that For doing so one has to select the "Cellular Line" while making a new connection on phone and input the dial up number provided by service provider..I suggest consult your service provider for doijg this

sherko said:
hdubli said:
As Forum Elders and experts have been saying...PLS TAKE SOMETIME AND EFFORTS TO SEARCH ON THIS FORUM and u will need the desired.
FYI, one can use 2s/2i/mini/Jam/XDA II ...etc as a wireless Modem via USB/Serial/Bluetooth/Irda.
Pls also take efoorts to read the manual which is provided with...
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Thank you my friend, but if you get my previous reply, I want to conneted to the internet using my mobile number by dialing up an ISP account and not GPRS as I HATE GPRS, it is unreasonably expensive.
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You can only get up to 9.6kbps dialing up to an ISP account (CSD service, typically USD$9.99/mo). With GPRS you can get at least 28.8kbps... That's why GPRS is more expensive (typically USD$19.99/mo)...
Now unless you plan to just browse gopher sites (gopher://quux.org/)... I don't think CSD is worth the trouble...
Can you help on this. I have searched and searched and searched...
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GPRS is fine, but expensive in the UK. It is £2.35 per MB with an 02 monthly contract. Unless you get an 02 Pay As You Go SIM and 'bolt on' 02 Active5. It's £4 for 5mb.
If you use simple old fashioned dialup PSTN/ISDN you can use (for example) a free 0845 dialup (UK2.net) and use your bundled minutes instead.
OK it's slower, but I just want email headers and have over 800 minutes rolled over this month!!
Rich

convert my P3300 into an usb wifi adapter?

heya,
i use use cardexportII to convert my P3300 into an USB flash disk. and on their web they got win98 drivers in case you want to connect it on an older system.
ok, so i wanted to know:
is there any way, a software or whatever, to connect my P3300 to an existing wifi, plug it with USB to a computer and the computer use it as wifi-adapter/access point to use that network?
i've read about people trying something like that but using bluetooth rather than USB to connect the mobile to the PC, i can use that too if you know how, but in the end what i really need is:
PC->USB->P3300->WIFI NETWORK
because i allways carry a little usb cable with me, and i don't want to carry an BT dongle around if i can avoid it.
and as we are at it, but not really important for me... would it be possible to convert my P3300 to a bluetooth dongle?
PC->USB->P3300->BT NETWORK/DEVICES
oh BTW, my P3300 has WM6 (official HTC release)
thx in advance for any help.
OH LOL, forgot to mention: all this WITHOUT ACTIVESYNC please.

not possible then?

For security reasons the device does not allow simultaneous USB and WiFi connections.

MaskedMarauder said:
For security reasons the device does not allow simultaneous USB and WiFi connections.
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if i am not wrong, i have read somewhere it was possible to share a WIFI connection through BT or viceversa... so why would USB not be possible, when it's even more secure than BT?
i am getting a little sick of microsoft and their "security" crap... first they disable activesync over wifi and now this? did they never hear of VPN or the like?
/sigh

zandadoum said:
if i am not wrong, i have read somewhere it was possible to share a WIFI connection through BT or viceversa... so why would USB not be possible, when it's even more secure than BT?
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You can share the phone's GPRS connection, not WiFi. This is so you can use the device as a modem for your laptop etc.
You can not use bluetooth or WiFi when you have a USB connection because you could use it to hook up to two different networks at once, one with the USB cable and one with the WiFi. And then move data across the two networks. Which is a network security risk.
That risk would deter customers from buying the device as it could be used as a back door into the network. An employee plugs into the corporate network with the device (which is 'trusted' and has no password required) then an accomplice connects WiFi to the device and has free entry.
A USB wireless dongle can be bought for £10. Perhaps using that to set up an ad-hock network could be a solution for you?

MaskedMarauder said:
You can share the phone's GPRS connection, not WiFi. This is so you can use the device as a modem for your laptop etc.
You can not use bluetooth or WiFi when you have a USB connection because you could use it to hook up to two different networks at once, one with the USB cable and one with the WiFi. And then move data across the two networks. Which is a network security risk.
That risk would deter customers from buying the device as it could be used as a back door into the network. An employee plugs into the corporate network with the device (which is 'trusted' and has no password required) then an accomplice connects WiFi to the device and has free entry.
A USB wireless dongle can be bought for £10. Perhaps using that to set up an ad-hock network could be a solution for you?
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where did you get all this info, that it is not possible due security reasons? as you mention, i could use a wifi dongle. and if i wanted to "hack" a network, i could use a laptop connected to a wired lan, and use it's wifi or a wifi dongle to do EXACTLY the same, so the security excuse (wherever you read it) is total bull****.
i want this, because i could just carry a wifi dongle in my bag, but if i could do it with the p3300 usb cable i always carry around, i would have one item less to worry around.
i really don't get all this security nonsense... in first place it needs a wep or wpa key to even connect to a wifi and in second place it's nothing i could not do with a laptop already, i don't understand the fuzz.
i asked the same thing on a microsoft mobile developer blog and the guy just started evading my questions and not responding at all.

Data Connection : Please Explain

Hi all,
Firstly, I'm new to winmob devices but as a developer I wanted to get my hands on one and start building some apps. I bought an unlocked TP2 and so far I'm really impressed and happy with it.
Now, I've searched the forums and can't find anything that completely addresses a question I have about Data Connection. It's a bit n00b but as I said I'm new to this I've never had a phone that could connect to the internet before.
I have a data plan with my provider, but when I'm at home I have the phone on the wifi. Sometimes I have it on the laptop at work or home (via USB cable).
What I don't quite understand yet is what is the priority for data connection? e.g. if connected via USB it will try to use the internet connection of the pc? if connected via wifi it will use that as preference? When the phone isn't connected to either, obviously it will start eating data from my plan, but I'm not clear on how the phone uses the internet etc. when on wifi or via the USB cable. I assume there's some kind of "preference" order or setting.
Can someone please enlighten me?
Thankyou for your time!

I've not seen any setting, but I believe it is:
USB ActiveSync (First priority)
Wifi
3G data connection
GPRS data connection (Last)
This is my experience anyway - certainly Wifi should be higher priority than any cellular/mobile connection. And I think I noticed that my web browsing was going via USB cable instead of Wifi when that was plugged in.

I agree with the above post, however I have noticed that If I run an app (lets say the YouTube app) with no active wireless or activesync connection it will use 3G or GPRS depending on available service, however If I then turn on Wireless I have to restart the app, it doesn't seen to automaticaly switch over to the new wireless connection which is a shame.
Tom

Question - Can you tether a Wifi connection from your Phone to your PC

Hello, I have been searching around for a day and a half now to no avail. I figure I will ask here as a last attempt before I go and buy another USB wifi adapter.
I am trying to use my HTC Dash with WM6.5 to tether an available wifi connection over to my Windows 7 PC. Basically trying to use the phone as a wifi adapter. The phone has no cell data service, but can connect to the home wifi network that is here. My Windows 7 PC has no Wifi adapter (I left it behind >.<).
Here is where I am at. The HTC Dash is connected to the Wifi network, and when I try to select a Network in the ICS program, it says there is none available. I have been able to get USB selected in ICS, and the phone connected to the computer. In Windows I see a Windows Mobile Remote Adapter in the Network Connections area when I sync the device in Windows Mobile Center. But no matter what I try, ICS sharing on the phone will not let me select the Wifi connection it has.
Through my searching I have found a lot of information on tethering 2G and 3G internet through USB, and using the phone as a Wifi Hotspot. But those where no help in this.
My friend on a G1 with Andriod can tether Wifi connections to a pc, and I am wondering if Windows Mobile can do the same thing. I can flash my ROM from to 6.0 or 6.1 WM if needed.
Thanks in advance to any advice given, hopefully someone can help me out

UPDATE: Still have no luck. I found a program called ICS Control v.21, but it only works on touchscreen WM phones, not WM standard. Which means a bunch of crashing.
This program would do exactally what I need it to do... just does not support my phone. Well the search continues... looking like I may just have to go buy an USB Wifi adapter soon.

tethering w/wifi
It does work. I'm currently answering this on my 2nd desktop Vista with my S620 via my home wifi network. Waiting for a 25' ethernet connector to hardware to wifi/modem Not quite sure how it is with a wifi adapter but 2 things I do know from experience. You shouldn't need an adapter.
1st: you can't be in Sync Center while trying to tether, at least in my case on a Vista desktop. It won't let you tether while the sync is running (or your already synced).
2nd: (this worked for me) open internet sharing on your Dash/S620, pc connection-usb and be ready to hit connect the 1st couple of seconds after pluging your usb connector into your phone, and give it 10-20 seconds to actually connect. If you wait to long to hit connect, the phone will start syncing with the computer. Won't let you tether.
RE-read post, missed thar "WinMo" remote part. My bad. Don't own Win 7. Don't know what that is.
Question: Is there an active wifi where you are ? From your post it sounds like "yes"
You do not need a wifi adapter. You do need a USB cord.
I tethered with edge for a bit, but then got to thinking. Try Wifi. It worked, but be quick.
Neither one is super fast but Wifi is definitely faster than Edge. Better than not being on the net at all. Occasionally it'll cut out, just unplug usb, get to connect screen, plug in and hit connect. Should be set.
As a side note: I also tried tethering with G1. Xferd pc driver to Vista from G1 but computer says it can't find the driver. Gave up after 2 hours.
G1 tethering works great on XP though.
Hope this helps. Good Luck. Really cool when it works.

Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers

ee.mike said:
Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers
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I'll have to break out the Dash again and let you know. It's been sitting for weeks since I repaired LCD screen and flashed my TMO Wing. Can't seem to stop playing with it.
Give me a little time and I'll get back to you.
You do have a wifi modem, correct ? I was using usb.

Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks

ee.mike said:
Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks
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Well, in your case, I won't be any help. What I did was run a 2nd computer off of my Dash with a Wifi Modem.
XP in another room with a wifi modem attached on Comcast, Dash on wifi and usb to Vista computer, since I didn't have a 25ft ethernet cable at the time.
Was running Vista-Dash-wifi modem-XP to comcast so I could run 2nd computer without being hard wired.
I'm familiar with wifirouter cab. It let's you use your phone like a hotspot, correct ?
In all my searches for various things for the phones, I thought I saw a different application that did the same thing. Possibly might even have it. I'll check and upload for ya if I find it. Have hundreds of cabs/zips to search. Let you know.
Possibly google it and you might find it yourself. There's a program called: WalkingHotSpot online for $24.99 if you don't mind spending. Dash isn't listed as a supported windows device but looking at the other phones listed my guess would be it should work. Try their DEMO version, see if it works.
Good Luck.......
2AM and I was just wondering......When you received your phone, you also got a usb cable with it, right ?
Why don't you just usb Dash to laptop and use "internet sharing" ????

My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.

ee.mike said:
My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.
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Do you have a home computer ? If so, get yourself a Wifi Modem and set up a home network. $40-60. Although Comcast sold me mine for $20 and I get to keep it. I can get all 5 phones on the internet at the same time, not that I need to. It'll also be so much faster then running thru Edge. Besides the fact video's don't play for crap tethered running through Edge. Just a suggestion.
My opinion stands concerning Apple. Get ready to cough up more fees for internet (ATT). They're doing away with unlimited data. Did you see their prices ?
You'll never catch me with ATT.
I just put WMWifiRouter on my TMO Wing 6.5. let you know how it worked. Setup went fine, so far.

did you try downloading the actual .cab from WMWIFIROUTER.COM it's only a trial for 21 days, the "Free" versions don't work on the dash i've tried many of them.
once you install and get it set up be sure to write down the Access ID and Password it gives you so you can connect to the WiFi signal beaming from your phone from your PC. It works for me to tether a WiFi connection from my Dash to PC though I prefer the more stable Internet Sharing USB to PC and I have an Unlimited Data Plan.
WMWIFIROUTER also lets you tether a connection from your phone via bbluetooth.

I use WMWiFiRouter and its a life saver. It lets you pretty much tether any connection to any other.
Just yesterday I was at a meeting in a resturant with some clients and used it to hook my netbook to the internet and used bluetooth as the connection to the phone. Yes, Internet Sharing can do that, but it has alot more it can do too.
You can use Bluetooth, USB (it shows up as a USB modem), or even set it up as a WiFi Router.
Very cool program and it works perfectly on the Dash. I love it.
I never tried the trial version. A friend of mine showed it to me, so I just bought it. It's under $20. Well worth it if you run into that situation often.