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ActiveSync via wifi is awsome, but one question remains

I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle. So far I haven't had the troubles that I have had when I used the cable and cradle. No more inactive activesync, can't synchronize errors, and having to restart activesync every few hours or so.
I managed to have activesync running for 2 days straight without any problems and restart of any sorts. This leads me to beleive that using wifi with activesync is more stable than using a usb/cradle.
My question is, can I completely abandon the USB/cradle when upgrading ROM, app installs, or anything that has to do with using the cradle and usb cables?

I don't know the answer for certain but I should think so.
What I need to know is how to sync using wifi without it trying to access GPRS instead.
Any ideas?

My 2s is configured to access wifi first (I think the setting is under the wifi config). If wifi isn't available, then it tried to access GPRS. My carrier charges an arm and a leg to use gprs, so I never configure the phone to access my carrier's GPRS. I rely on free public WIFI access and my home WIFI access to do all my internet jobs.

You'll still need the USB for ROM updates; everything else you can do over WiFi or BT.

wifi
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.

@3waygeek, Thanks as I have not tried update anything since I pay a service to upgrade my things on my PPC. Sprite also does not like to backup via WiFi. I had to connect the PPC to the cradle.
@hoobas, I have WinXp/Sp2 installed. I have not had any problems connecting other than the occasional ActiveSync annoyance when I'm connecting with the USB cable. I'm sorry that I can't help you. I have not experience your problems so I can not give you a diagnosis.

wifi and MS Activsync
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem

ActiveSync starts automiatically on USB, serial, and Bluetooth connections. You'll have to use the ActiveSync link located on your PPC to connect to the PC via WiFi. This is assuming that ActiveSync does work on both your PPC and desktop. So it's best to connect to ActiveSync at least once via cradle before going ActiveSync via WiFi.
Only install ActiveSync on either your lappy or your deskop, but not on both. One limitation with ActiveSync is that you can not use more than two partnerships without some fiddling around with your PPC and your networked PC.

About Cradle ActiveSync.
Uninstall ActiveSync -> Reboot PC -> Reinstall Active Sync 3.8 and don't touch any thing or open any programs while installation is in progress.
Mine is working like a charm

nomadman said:
I managed to finally figure out how to use activesync without having to use a cradle.
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How did you do it?
I've used the search function but I couldn't find anything about it.
Thanks,
Dino

OK, got it to work, too. Very nice
But I had to set my Network Connection from "Internet" to "Work".
Is it possible to use both settings? My Wireless LAN connects also
to the internet, so I won't switch everytime I want to sync or surf.
Dino

Re: wifi
hoobas said:
Hi nomad,
im trying to configure my laptop wifi (peer-to-peer) and 2s. My 2s can connect to laptop wifi but the activesync is not performing connection or no connection at all. appreciate your help.
thanks.
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Hi hoobas, how do you configure your laptap wifi for peer-to-peer? (this is quite off topic ) been trying to do this for sometime. thanks

Here is a great site site that might help some of you guys out.
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/installation.htm#Installation:

hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...

hoobas said:
hlim,
go to settings, network connections, right click wireless connections, click properties...
tab to wireless networks, click add...
enter your ssid, and click the "ad hoc" at the lower portion of the form...
hope it helps...
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Thanks a lot how about the settings on the computer side?

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
hi nomadman
can u let me know how u set up wifi to sync activesync? i have a WLAN at home and cannot see where the option is to use wifi to sync MS Activesync.
I also want to get away from having to use the cradle each time i want to sync . AT present i am doing it using infrared which is ok but like u said wifi must be better.
Also, i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
cheers
azeem
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In the network settings of yr phone, enter the ip address of machine you want to sync with as WINS server. That will tell yr phone which machine it has to connect to. You can set up peak and offpeak timings in the mobile schedule of activsync on ye PDA, so that it can sync every 10 or 15 mins .

Sorry if my question is too noobish. I have read so many articles talking about establishing wifi sync between a wifi enabled PPC and a wifi enabled PC, but havent been able to do yet. Do i have to have another software to enable the connection ?
Can any one please explain slowly and in detail how you could do that, i've been searching for quite a long time but still no result. And 1 more question is that after i can sync through wifi between my O22s and my laptop, does it affect the wifi connection of my laptop and my O22s? A bit silly right but i'm a new user and i'm not in IT field also. Thanks for any suggestion from you guys.

@azeemakhtar,
http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/multiplepartnerships.htm
@ducga,
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
* The above procedure should be able to get activesync working via wifi as long as there isn't a setting problem in your router managment or firewall.
* The above precedure should work if your are able to connect to the interent on your PPC via wifi.

nomadman said:
1. Install ActiveSync 3.8 on your lappy or PC, but not on both.
2. connect to activesync via cradle first.
3. remove unit from the cradle and reset.
4. click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button.
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I also have to do the following:
3a. Click Start / settings / connections / Network cards
3b. Select Network Adapters
3c. Change 'My network card connects to' from 'The Internet' change to 'Work'
3d. Close, reset (for luck)
3e. Open ActiveSync on your desktop PC, select File / connection settings / and tick allow Network Ethernet !!
4. Now when you click on the ActiveSync link on your PPC and tap on the Sync button - it won't try to use GPRS to connect and WiFi will be listed as your Work connection.
I always have to change my network card settings back to 'The Internet' before I can browse again.
Rich

Re: wifi and MS Activsync
azeemakhtar said:
i have two machines (a laptop and a desktop) in my wifi network. Desktop is hardwired and laptop hangs off wirelessly. How will my xda IIs know which machine to sync with?
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Go to ActiveSync on your XDA, click tools, options.
It will say "When syncing remotely with a PC Use this PC:"
It should list the network name of the PC you currently have a partnership with. i.e. "TOMSLAPTOP"
Rich

WiFi problems

Hello.
I've got a rather anoying problem
I can't set up my device to automaticly choose to use wifi for programs that accesses the internet.
This causes the phone to enable an gprs connection every time i try to access the internet instead.
I have sucsessfully set ut the phone to connect to my wifi network and the communication works (skype runs)
In troubleshooting on HTC webpage you can find these instructions:
On your handset, 1. Click start > settings > connctions > connections > Advanced >Select Networks: Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using: "Internet".
My problem is that the option "internet" dosent exixt in the menu, can i have missed something in the setup?

Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject

strongp said:
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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So what is the best way to get around it??? Another program to help us disable their "feature" and allow us to access the setting we need???

strongp said:
Are you by nay chance using an O2 orbit? If so this is a 'feature' that O2 have introduced to make themselves richer. Check out the other posts on this subject
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I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.

NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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i hve an orbit but sicne i opeend the box i shoved in my t-mobile sim
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if it is activted how is gprs being used now with another sim??

NickR said:
I've got an orbit and can use the internet, email and anything that needs to access the internet via connecting to my wifi router?
I doesn't access the gprs.
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Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???

wombat45 said:
Stupid question I guess but how do you know for definite that it is not connecting via gprs???
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a message comes up at the top of the screen saying connecting : o2 Active
If you have wifi on as well they both appear in the connectivity list.
Cheers
NICK

I prefer wifi to GPRS
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
HTC P3300 rom movistar Spain

Hi,
First post here.
I experienced similar problems just like you. What I did was to ring up O2 and asked them to disable GPRS on my line because my XDA Orbit was defaulting to GPRS connection whenever I tried to connect to the Internet using WiFi. I told them that I was very unhappy about it. Needless to say, they promptly disabled it.
After this, I saw an X on the title bar, where the GPRS connection used to show up (next to the signal strength).
I no longer have the default GPRS connection whenever I try to access the Internet via WiFi. This means that I can now surf the Internet from my PDA without having to incur any data charge.
kiwi992.

Well I have no problems, it all works as it should, the programs use the connection already established or connects to GPRS. If it is plugged in on USB it uses that. If you make a Wi-Fi connection it uses that. If you don't make either of those it connects to GPRS. But it won't look to make a Wi-Fi connection first. None of my devices have done that, not just the Orbit.

aloisia said:
I've the same problem. No answers for me in the rest of the threads. I can't select mi wifi connections without ti disable the GPRS connection.
HTC P3300 rom movistar Spain
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That is done on purpose as a security measure, you can not have two simultaneous connections (except if your using the phone as a modem when you can have USB & GPRS.)

Hi, Maskedmaraudore. Thanks for your answer. For me the problem isn't it: often I've both connections simultaneously (I supose, both are connected but only one is working and carrying out data, it's clair).
Problem is: with both active connections (wifi correctly started and GPRS available), but no sessions initiated, I run any program having an automatic connection to internet (explorer, outlook,...), and the device starts a GPRS connection without use the current, and able, wireless connection. Why I must pay with GPRS having my home wifi active???
I've the program "NO GPRS", that I found in this forum, I think, but not always I remember to use it: I only want that HTC choice wifi if it's available.
Thanks,

Orbit as modem for Laptop on hols?

Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks

I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.

Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers

It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.

USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
TangerineTractor said:
I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.

i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?

toosas said:
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!

This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs

Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)

Hermes as a Wireless access point???

Hello everyone can anyone tell me of some program which can turn my hermes into a wirless access point , i know there is a program called "WMWifiRouter" but it can only use gprs for internet access and here in our country gprs is still much expensive . I would like to have a program which can use the usb connection from my pc as a internet source .why do i need it?....... because i want to connect my few other devices such as nintendo ds to internet through it .plz plz plz can anyone help. Thanks in advance and one more thing thanks to all the great cheifs here who do wonderfull job for us specially the legendary Schaps, faria and Shamanix.anyways thanks again.

hi,
use WiFi Router.
wfg
starbase64

Thanks alot "starbase64" for replying but i already mention that wifi router is not suitable for me because it only uses gprs for internet connection and i cant afford gprs its way too expensive in our country what i am searching is a program which works like "wifi router " but uses usb connection from the pc(connected to the internet through regular lan card) as internet source not gprs .sorry for my bad english if i am not making my point clears ,thanks anyways.anyone plz help.

erhm, considering the hassle you'd be going through (even if WiFiRouter worked with USB), why dont you just dish out the 10$ USD for a cheap wireless network card for your PC?
Then simply run Ad-Hoc WiFi internet sharing from your PC.
If you're thinking of having MULTIPLE devices connect to the phone like a router, well, that's simply not going to happen. The WiFiRouter software might call itself a "router", but the WiFi adapter in the phone isn't able to handle more than one wifi connection.
If you want PORTABILITY (plug in WiFi an internet cafe PC or public PC or school PC), buy a USB WiFi dongle adapter (maybe 20$ USD)
Sure, it would mean seting up internet sharing every time on a new PC, but then again you wouldnt be assured all public PC got Activesync installed to allow internet sharing via USB from your phone anyway.
OR
have you tried UNCHECKING "Allow Wireless Connection On Device When Connected To The Desktop" in Activesync connection settings (on the PC ) and then using WMWiFiRouter?

Thanks everyone for replying but still i think i am not making my self clear ,I will check about the active sync option .Anyways thanks alot and if some one found such a software plz do inform me here or by my e-mail [email protected]

There is also this new program, ICS, in the Development & Hacking forum. I haven't tested it, but you might want to check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377047

Thank u dgaud007 i will check this out.

Touch Pro2 as dialup usb modem

Hi guys,
i need to use my tp2 as dialup usb modem trought my pc. I rember that i can do it with a old htc tytn II ...
Now the qestion is: can i do the same with a tp2 ? I need install a driver ? Which ?
I need use the tp2 for connect to a remote modem NOT for share a internet connection.
Thanks in advance.

create a new connection use cellular line enter the number and user and pass and whatever else then go to internet sharing but use that connection. and it will actually dial to use as dial up...
but i dont really see the point because even tho its dialing a number isnt it still using data FROM the carrier because it has to transfer?

Hi,
thanks for your reply.
I need to connect my htc tp2 to my notebook using a usb cable for start a dialup connection trought windows.
In really i have install on my notebook a RemoteAccess Software that use a dial up modem (and for this i would use my htc) for a number and connect t remote appliance
So i thinks that if i create a new connection cellular line on my tp2 is a not good solution.
About 4 years ago i rember that can do it with my htc tytn using a usb driver form htc cd-rom and install it on my windows system.
Now anybody have you any idea for do it with my tp2 ?
thanks in advance.

Hi ,
anybody have a idea ?
thanks

The previous answer is the way you need to go.
Your speaking in circles, if your PC is dialing a number you need to replace that with your phones connection.
In other words, whatever software on your pc that needs to connect to the internet should use one of the connections you setup, one being "Cellular".
Updated....
I think after a few reads I get you.
Your PC is dialing an access number directly into a remote server?
So you need the phone to just be a telephone line for the PCs modem to dial over?
And you would like to know how to do this through USB?
Is this correct?
I don't know how to do that but my clarification of your question may help get you an answer.
Question can't the server be access by IP address?
Then you could use the phones internet connection.
Good Luck.

Hi
thanks for your reply;
mc_365 said:
Updated....
I think after a few reads I get you.
Your PC is dialing an access number directly into a remote server?
So you need the phone to just be a telephone line for the PCs modem to dial over?
And you would like to know how to do this through USB?
Is this correct?
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YES! Thanks for clarification my post !
Question can't the server be access by IP address?
Then you could use the phones internet connection.
Good Luck.
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NO i need to call a remote server with a direct connection (no internet, no ip)
Anybody have a idea ?
Thanks in advance-

I used to do this (dial-up) and since I switched to Verizon PC card I no longer remember how I did it... I think I installed a usb modem driver for my phone, but it wasn't a Touch Pro2...