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Password protect after hard reset like hp Protect tools

Would there be a way to modify the rom in order to keep the 4 digit pin and user information after a hard reset. My old hx2410 used the ipaq filestore for this and the hp protect tool.
I currently have a Qtek 9090 and would like a similar feature if possible...
Thanks in advance.
Florian

No there is no way. I would like to have the HP Protect Tools on my QTek 9100 too. But is there a way to extract the files from a rom?

Does a hard reset not clean out the rom and thus all its data.
So what do you want to protect as all the apps that you installed are gone as well as you contacts ect.
Am I missing something?

After a hard-reset the device is still locked with HP Protect Tools, so it's useless for the thiefs, they can't use the device!

Yes that's the reason I'd like the same feature...!

anyone know an security app that stores the password in a file that we could somehow modify the rom with ?

Anybody got access to a HP rom update file? We can try to take it apart.
V

Does this help????
http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/HandheldiPAQ/us/download/22776.html
It looks like hp hasn't issued a ROM update for WM5 yet.

I still have my hx2410 - if you tell me how, I might be able to send you the rom

I had a hx2110 upgraded to WM5 but i sold it I'm currently loading the german WM5 upgrade for it (donkey).

iPaq PDA (not sure about hx series), have a bit of persistant memory that they used for data backup, incases where your battery goes dead and data lost. These persistant storage is so small that it is usually used to stored data/file, not programs. I'm wondering if a hardreset will wipe this persistant memory or not. If not, they might happily store the PIN number on this persistant storage.
As for the HTC series here, either you put your PIN number on your Ext ROM or burned it into your ROM itself, there doesn't seems to have other method of keeping any means of data that is able to survive a hardreset. E.g. would be the SMS-theft software that will send silently send SMS to a defined phone number in the case of theft, but this phone number is burned into the ROM itself.

I'm on WM2003 SE on my Qtek 9090. And yes I was thinking about some kind of program that would auto-install from the rom after a hard reset and be linked to a pin also on the rom if you see what I mean. But how to do that I have no idea...

While having a security tool like HP protect tools is great against theft, dont bother using the one from HP. I tried it a few months back on an IPAQ and it is a pretty useless software, just like MS Pocket Streets with GPS. Increases bootup time by three fold, slows down general use with filesystem encryption, locks up occasionally when phone call comes in. And YES, you can remove it with a hard reset, which I did after a week to remove it.

Now i have the ROMs:
http://home.teleos-web.de/vschildmann/GER-hx2000_WM5_Upgrade.exe
http://home.teleos-web.de/vschildmann/GER-hx2700_WM5_Upgrade.exe
The First is for hx2100 and hx2400. Maybe anyone can extract files of it and test it.

"Not Enough Memory" troubleshooting thread

So, some of you have this error, some dont. So lets try and figure it out. Heres what we know.
The problem affects ALL Artemis WM6 ROMS.
Remember, the issue doesnt appear when just using it normally. Its only under certain circumstances. Heres how you re-create the problem.
Run Tomtom, this causes the error90% of the time.
Create a new word document and try to save anywhere.
Heres my setup and what ive tried to fix it.
Device: MDA Compact III
SD Card: 1gb
Ive tried font cache size, system cache, removing the memory card.
Please dont post "I dont get the error" if you havnt tried running tomtom or saving a word document.
Thanks

To add to the problem re-creation, I was trying to copy a directory with around 15 files in it from the internal memory to the storage card, the message just kept popping up for all the duration of the copy process, I stoppped clicking ok eventually. I looked at the free program mempry available then and it was pretty good at around 22mb.
Device: Orbit XDA
SD Card: 1gb

I too have noticed that looking at the free storage space seems to fix it for tomtom (but not word). There is something else wrong with Excel in that the "Save As" is in the wrong place, infact where it is isnt actually save as.

You're right, I haven't noticed this before with excel. I can't remember if it was like this before, was it? It won't be easy figuring this little memory issue out. I hope someone has a trick up their sleeves.

I have the WM6 emulator running on my pc and the excel thing isnt there. Comparing the registry settings on the emulator with my device. I would love to hear if anyone does actually have Word working without issue.

BREAKTHROUGH!
OK. I installed the original Orbit rom and... IT WORKS!!!! So the question is what did bepe and the guys do when they de-branded it? The orbit rom has an Ext-Rom with a load of branded stuff PLUS! some patches. I bet one of these patches fixes the issue!
These custom roms have NO Ext-Rom at all, hence the increased storage space. however in the process of removing the ext rom they have managed to cause these memory errors.
So guys, any chance of a rom close to the Orbit rom but with the English language and Ext rom left in tack?

Great work mate, it is the removal/merging of the extended rom that's causing the problem then. Maybe it's not even a patch in the extended rom, maybe it's the way the extended rom was merged that's causing it. This surely deserves more looking into.
Great breakthrough

Word FIX!
Thanks to pvdhelm for the tip on this one. Attached is a patch to fix the memory issue with word (and only word). To fix it for other apps you need to view the memory in the control panel and click on "Storage Card". The word fix is pernament but the other memory issue it only until you reset your phone.

Absolutely brilliant, so it looks like missing registry entries!! We need to find out what was in the original extended rom then to find out if we're missing anything else. Looks like only me and you here, you should post this fix in the main threads mate.
Cheers and well done.

I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.

Maybe this is a clue for you all. I have never had these errors, ands I use Tomtom daily and have tested word for you again with no fault.
The difference? Well I upgraded to WM6.0 the original way before USPL patch and flashed the OS only. I'm assuming you with problems used the ROM installer method. Am I right with my assumption? If so that should narrow down the culprit.
I used Bepes original WM6 WWE OS only upgrade, therefore the Ext ROM on my device is still the old T-Mobile WM5 one and was simply not allowed to run. So it can't be right to assume there is something missing from an EXT ROM patch.

It's most certainly the extended rom being merged then, there's nothing else to it.

gajet, can you give me the exact steps you took. I went from the T-Mobile rom to Black and blue then to the others. I uses USPL first though.
Can you give me a quick set of steps you took i.e Original T-Mobile rom, then ran USPL, then updated to Bepes.
Also, if you used bepe's can you also tell me which rom update util you used? as the one ive tried has errors at the end.
Thanks

dannyoneill said:
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
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VERY interesting reading!
If you move this thread, please drop a link on here for us, thanks. The first one to crack this problem will be worshipped from afar I am sure!!

I think it could be an order of upgrade issue, heres the latest.
1. Downgraded to T-Mobile WM5 rom
2. Ran USPL
3. Upgraded to Bepe WM6 using the EXE version
The word issue is no longer there but the out of memory in Tomtom is. Also no ext rom.
It would be good to know from others and gajet what steps they took and which files they uses to do it. Especially as gajet still has his extended rom.

I've tried:
official t-mobile wm5 to german wm6 to bepe uspl &
official t-mobile wm5 to bepe uspl
Both times I have had the error with tomtom but no problems with word.
Both times temp fix (looking at storage) worked (sorry about font cache red herring - thought I was onto something there).
Just tied chi-tai extended battery plugin with the storage showing on the homepage (as a way to force system to get correct memory) but no joy.
I have htc touch com manager and phone skin but not the home plugin.
Cheers
Matt

I think Ive cracked it. Just doing some final testing but watch out for a new "How to" thread.

go Danny go.
Look forward to seeing it.
Will test and report back once you've posted.
Cheers
Matt

Sadly the original thread was edited to reflect the OS update was repackaged but eddie2k still goes on the reexplain the process in this thread.
eddie2k said:
then use winrar to unpack the (bepe) wm6 wwe rom in this page (written in red). flashed using bootloader method.
after u get german rom installed , run ARTE os flash utility from xda ftp (log in properly) link don't work if not logon properly..
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Artemis/arte.zip unpack
copy os.nb from first folder (bepe) wwe rom to arte folder and rename os.nb to windows.nb then run UpgradeRom.bat
hard reset, soft reset done.
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Now I didn't bother installing the german O2 release as my MDACIII was CID locked, so I just used ARTE package with Bepes WM6 .nb renamed and flashed the OS only, then after hard resetting, at the point of about to load EXT ROM soft reset.
This thread was also the guide although you could skip the process of extracting the .os from a ROM package as Bepe originally provided us with the raw windows.nb file.

Thanks gajet, Ive just posted the steps. Your post was deffinatly the key. Once I saw you still had your ext rom I knew we could do it.
Answer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313486

My TyTN says it lost its memory...

I have just updated my TyTN to WM6. It all went well (it was renamed frpm TyTN to Hermes200, but I can live with that,,,) BUT, it seems to think it has lost its memory. When I try to start a PIM (Agenda Fusion 8.5) it just wont start properly, it goes on "updating" the appointments and tasks, and the suddenly returns to my start screen. Also, when trying to sync it says "sync can not be completed" too little memory left... And when I tried to delete a task, it said there was to little memory to start the program, and suggested that I should go to "System - memory" and stop some programs there. BUT there were no programs running, and I have 8MB memory for program and 14 MB for storing left... That has been enough before...
Anyone having had and/or solved this issue? Thanks in advance!
/H

Bad blocks?
Your device may have a bunch of bad blocks. If you've got Hard-SPL installed, they can most likely be fixed.

That sounds great! I have read through the post you suggested, but it was a bit too technical for my english, do I just take the "hard-SPL" and install it on my device, and then start it? (I might with this question not only proof that I am swedish, I might also be a bit non-technically-stupid... )

instant tall hard SPLv7 which you should have done before flashing anyway to be on the safe side. then download MTTY to your desktop/laptop. start MTTY and in the cmd prompt type info 8 and that will tell you if you have bad blocks. if you do type task 2a if I remember right and that will fix them. its not hard at all if you follow directions carefully. one thing though MTTY only works with XP not vista.

Thanks for that! You say I should have had it installed before, but I can install it now afterwords?
I have a swedish update to WM6, does that matter?

Sorry.. I have to have some more help... Should I do i like this:
1) make ha hard reset of the TyTN
2) install Hard SPLv7
3) Download MTTY (what is this..?)
4) "fix it"
5) put my back up back again
I am not so used to this, excuse if I ask stupid questions... My TyTN is though at the moment more stupid than I am. I can not start the camera (not sufficiant memory), not start the contatcs list and the backup I have put back was not properly installed, the textmessages is missing, some settings is not there, I can etc. BUT the phone-part of the phone works better!
i am very much looking forward to some help here!
Thanks in advance!
/Håkan

Dunno if this is relevant to me here...
I upgraded to WM6 and already have the SPL bootloader in and a custom, er, rom. Seemed to work ok but towards the end of the day I noticed that the TASKS (ie reminders) wouldn't work, stating out of memory. Now the PIM is corrupt

help!!!! lost data after WM6 froze!

Hi all,
I saved loads of information on my tytn II during the summer. Very important files (notes most often). I was stupid enough to let WM6 store this on the main folder instead of the micro SD card.
Earlier this evening, I tried to use the camera and the phone froze (classical...) so I pressed "reset". Except it never really restarted! I could just reach the WM6 picture on the screen and it would stay there for ages... until a white screen with black text made it clear that a program was running while i'd pressed reset (i really doubt it, i hadn't launched anything), and that i'll have to press reset to recover the initial configuration of the phone. I pressed reset just once (too scared to do a hard reset, im not crazy enough yet) but it still does the same thing, gets locked on the WM6 screen but never shows the damned white screen with the terrible message.
Is there any (even very expensive) way to retrieve the data? I hope it's not lost...
Thanks for your help guys, im a newbie and im really starting to hate WM6.

a friend of mine asked me to use bootloader... but i dunno how to use it with the software on the computer (it doesn't even display the USB port).
Actually the message on the white screen said that i could go back to the initial settings and lose all data if i pressed "send", which I never did...
I just wanna find a way to get files in "mydocuments" folder or something.
is it possible to "fix" the ROM, or save everything in a microSD card and retrieve the data?
thank you

atonavis86 said:
a friend of mine asked me to use bootloader... but i dunno how to use it with the software on the computer (it doesn't even display the USB port).
Actually the message on the white screen said that i could go back to the initial settings and lose all data if i pressed "send", which I never did...
I just wanna find a way to get files in "mydocuments" folder or something.
is it possible to "fix" the ROM, or save everything in a microSD card and retrieve the data?
thank you
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For starters, you may find a bit more help in your devices sub-forum.
Second, unless you've flashed a new ROM, I don't see a reason for you to enter bootloader, if you do, it won't hurt anything.
Also, what have you done to your device that you think may have caused this?

i haven't done much except reset the device because WM6 was frozen (I loaded the camera application and it got stuck there for miiiiiinutes). tsk tsk. I'll wait until anyone replies in the device section.
Thank you

Help please

I dont know whats wrong with my phone I flashed the romeo 6.5 htc sense 2.5 rom onto my phone earlier and it was working fine but then it started to act up. the htc sense was laggin and skipping alot and then i tried to flash to another rom but it kept telling me that i dont have enough memory to put the nbh file onto the explorer folder. so i go check my documents on my device but nothing seem to appear. so i did a hard reset but since then the only thing that keeps showing on my screen when i turn it on is just the 1st screen of that says touch pro 2 then it blinks to another screen and it just says windows mobile romeos initializing configuration please wait but it stays on that screen and does nothing else
help please

ariel123 said:
I dont know whats wrong with my phone I flashed the romeo 6.5 htc sense 2.5 rom onto my phone earlier and it was working fine but then it started to act up. the htc sense was laggin and skipping alot and then i tried to flash to another rom but it kept telling me that i dont have enough memory to put the nbh file onto the explorer folder. so i go check my documents on my device but nothing seem to appear. so i did a hard reset but since then the only thing that keeps showing on my screen when i turn it on is just the 1st screen of that says touch pro 2 then it blinks to another screen and it just says windows mobile romeos initializing configuration please wait but it stays on that screen and does nothing else
help please
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Sounds like you flashed one too many times. The Custom RUU's do not reformat the ROM chip. Flash a Stock ROM like one of the HTC Official Updates. This will have the stock RUU which does format the ROM chip. Then, you can go flash any ROM you like. I had this same problem once on my Kaiser where folders would disappear.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Sounds like you flashed one too many times. The Custom RUU's do not reformat the ROM chip. Flash a Stock ROM like one of the HTC Official Updates. This will have the stock RUU which does format the ROM chip. Then, you can go flash any ROM you like. I had this same problem once on my Kaiser where folders would disappear.
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@drkfngthdragnlrd
Hey mate, does it means that if I flashed too many ROM in a particular period then this problem would occurred? lol~ I didn't clearly understand what you explained.
Cheers

Help with flash
I flashed my rom and installed wm6.5 now I cannot sync to my pc with vista. Please help

what150 said:
@drkfngthdragnlrd
Hey mate, does it means that if I flashed too many ROM in a particular period then this problem would occurred? lol~ I didn't clearly understand what you explained.
Cheers
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Not that it would occur, but something similar "could" occur. This is why in the Kaiser section they always told you to flash stock/hard reset/flash custom ROM of choice/hard reset. It's not that you need to, but doing so an help prevent weird bugs from showing up like what he explained. It's just like installing Windows on a PC, they always recommend you format the drive on each install or your install could be buggy. For best results you format so the drive is clean & no left over files that can screw with the new install. Plus, low level formating will gain back bad clusters in the hard driver/ROM chip lost during use by data corruption. This format process is disabled in the XDA made Custom*RUU.exe for various reasons. So the more ROM's you flash, the more changes occur on the ROM Chip & the more likely a bug could appear.
sdb156 said:
I flashed my rom and installed wm6.5 now I cannot sync to my pc with vista. Please help
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Check in the ROM's thread. Also, you may need to clear the PC's sync partnerships. If you have flashed a lot the PC can only handle so many Partners. Each time you flash a new ROM, it creates a new partner as it think's it's a different device.

how do you soft and hard reset the att tilt 2? Had an old tilt and I just got this a few days ago still figuring it out

sdb156 said:
how do you soft and hard reset the att tilt 2? Had an old tilt and I just got this a few days ago still figuring it out
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Soft Reset hole is on the side of the device. It may be under the battery door. The side with the stylus, under the secondary Mic.
Hard Reset is done by holding Send/End/Power & pressing Soft Reset with stylus. Hold the Send/End/Power keys till the Hard Reset message appears onscreen.

This was the first flash I did and after a hard rest still will not sync and nothing in the thread for the rom. I cleared all my partnerships. The phone is connected and I can transfer files to and from my storage card. Do I need to update the device driver on my pc? Any way to get my outlook 2003 contacts on the phone through my storage card or any other way?

sdb156 said:
This was the first flash I did and after a hard rest still will not sync and nothing in the thread for the rom. I cleared all my partnerships. The phone is connected and I can transfer files to and from my storage card. Do I need to update the device driver on my pc? Any way to get my outlook 2003 contacts on the phone through my storage card or any other way?
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If running XP you need ActiveSync 4.5, if running Vista/7 you need Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1. All drivers for the devices come from those programs. Have you tried manually opening Active Sync/device Center to see if it's connecting/seeing the device? Also, make sure there's no setting on the device making it act as a USB Mass Storage drive. Some ROM's give a app or setting to do this as it increases transfer rates for copying files, but it doesn't allow syncing.

I have win mobile device center and know sync. the phone will connect for usb mass storage and I can access the files on my storage card. when I connect my phone it gives me the option of outlook sync or flash drive. I select the outlook sync and the first time my pc said the device was installed successfully but no recognition from mobile device center.

sdb156 said:
I have win mobile device center and know sync. the phone will connect for usb mass storage and I can access the files on my storage card. when I connect my phone it gives me the option of outlook sync or flash drive. I select the outlook sync and the first time my pc said the device was installed successfully but no recognition from mobile device center.
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Hum, I'm at a loss, I would post in the ROM's thread to see if anyone else has/had this issue. Maybe it's ROM related?!?!? I'm running ROMeOS without sync issues. Granted I don't sync anything, but when i open device center the device does show up. I always check this, because if the device isn't seen by WMDC, I can't get data connections while connected to USB. I have this problem a lot because I removed WMDC from startup as I don't want an app running in the BG taking up resources when I don't use it.

actually what i did was flash my rom through micro sd because my phone wouldnt load to the home screen so i wasnt able to connect to aactive sync. thank god i got my wife a tp2 also wich i was able to dl the nnhb file on the micro sd card and then just run it from my phone but yes i did flash my rom way too many times during this past weekend id say about t times in a days is there a limit of times you can flash a device per day because i dont want to fry my phone up lol silly me

ariel123 said:
actually what i did was flash my rom through micro sd because my phone wouldnt load to the home screen so i wasnt able to connect to aactive sync. thank god i got my wife a tp2 also wich i was able to dl the nnhb file on the micro sd card and then just run it from my phone but yes i did flash my rom way too many times during this past weekend id say about t times in a days is there a limit of times you can flash a device per day because i dont want to fry my phone up lol silly me
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For future reference, you don't need to flash via SD if you are stuck. Just follow these steps.
1) Power Off
2) Hold down Volume Down button
3) Plug in USB Cable
4) Boot Loader appears onscreen & at button in White space says "USB"
5) Flash ROM via PC as normal.

yea but its not going to be connected to active sync so how do i get the nbh file onto the phone unless i can just run the ruu and it will flash

ok now everytime i try to flash my rom back to the stock one through micro sd it starts the process but then the back light turns off and then the phone stays off and i have to hard reset it can someone help me and when i connect it to the pc it has the bootloader but it says error on the bottom of the screen
do i have to flash my radio back to stock also?

I had the same problem... luckily t-mobile has a buyers remorse program... because I could not get the active sync/WMDC to work either... did you download the wifi cab on another thread? I ask because this is what did it for me? Or maybe a combo of cabs but definately linked to the wifi cab... Gettin a new phone today... if anyone figure this out, make it a sticky!