Everyone talking about Linux - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

I hear everyone talking about Linux for PDA's and I find this amazing because I'm an old heavy Linux user. I am wondering, since they are coding Linux for PDA's will you still be able to use your GSM phone with Linux is installed? or GPRS features and such. Or is it just the operating system, no phone applications, etc. So mainly I'm trying to ask is Linux PDA ment for PDA's or PDA Phones?

I don't know about Xanadu (the linux being worked on for the Wallaby and Himalaya devices), but there is a Korean company whose name escapes me that does make a linux for PocketPC devices that are phones. Unfortunately I think that it is only compatible with CDMA phones.

Mizi linux is what the name is.
I looked at the company but they seem to be an OEM solution, they don't sell to individuals

AdmiralAK said:
linux being worked on for the Wallaby and Himalaya devices
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Blueangel is the most active and advanced port at the moment with the Universal
coming soon

I welcome anything not MS on my computers and PDAs. I'm moving to MacTel when it is released. Keeping a 5gig box just to sync PPC contacts, then migrate those contacts to Mac. I can't wait till the day I eradicate my units of MS crapware.

http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8728350077.html
All linux pda's listed here including Yopy, Sharp and also Ipaqs although not native Linux it refers to the projects.

Those are nice units. But I was hoping that since Linux is an Open Source OS, us current PDA and PPC users don't have to buy a seperate unit to be able to use Linux. I would buy/donate USD$50 for a fast and stable Linux OS and buy shareware apps for it.
Edit: okay, maybe I'm being a cheep bastard for offering 50 bones. But I would even pay equal to MS XP as long as it proves to be stable and reliable.

cr2 said:
AdmiralAK said:
linux being worked on for the Wallaby and Himalaya devices
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Blueangel is the most active and advanced port at the moment with the Universal
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wow :shock:
the link in the wiki doesn't tell me much - I just assumed it was wallaby and himalaya only

AdmiralAK said:
wow :shock:
the link in the wiki doesn't tell me much - I just assumed it was wallaby and himalaya only
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wiki editing is dead at the moment, but i have already modified some pages to reflect the current status.

Is the wiki the only place to get information? or is there a forum within xda-dev where people gather?

nomadman said:
Is the wiki the only place to get information? or is there a forum within xda-dev where people gather?
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Join #htc-blueangel on irc.freenode.net if you need support or want to help bringing linux to the blueangel

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How to upgrade from wm2002 to wm2003 or higher

Hi i'm new to this forum so idon't know ifthis has been posted yet. I have a T-Mobile Pocket PC 2003. I would like to know if there is anyway to update the operating system to a newer one and what is involved with updating the ROM. Thank you for your time.
ziggy88 said:
Hi i'm new to this forum so idon't know ifthis has been posted yet. I have a T-Mobile Pocket PC 2003. I would like to know if there is anyway to update the operating system to a newer one and what is involved with updating the ROM. Thank you for your time.
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helps to know what make and model of phone you have, look on the main index page for your phone and look there, only certain pones can be upraded and the info you want is there.
T-mobile pocket pc 2003
thats not enough it pretty much the name of every windows mobile phone tmobile ever released and roms are unique for each model
they add naming like
mda or mdaII or mdaIII ....
Pardon my ignorance.
Is there a wm2002 phone? What is HP Jornada, wm2002?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jornada
and yes wallaby orginaly came with pocketpc 2002
about early windows CE phones then this was the first i saw
http://www.planetomni.com/GSM_SEMN_sx45_DTL.shtml
running not pocketpc but pure windows CE 3
I guess it would be the HTC wallaby. It looks exactly like that but it says "T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition" on it.
I can't really find much on it so I wasn't sure which phone it was.
http://www.romkitchen.de/
Ok I was looking over the rom kitchen site at all the informationprovided and reading the manuals and what not and i still don't understand what i'm reading.Well I understand it but i don't want to ruin my phoneso does anyone know of a simple way of explaining what to do with this stuff to us who are just getting started out? Your time and patience are appreciated.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMkitchen
or
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
interested in learning more as well
Hi all:
Although I am not a developer, I have found this a great resource for info beyond other forums.
Like ziggy88, I went to the ROM KITCHEN and took a look.
I am using a Hitachi G1000 WM 2002 device on Sprint.
This last week I have found an abundance of info on this device and just before was was contemplating upgrading. With the new info I have found, I am going to hold off.
So, it is an Intel PXA255 XScale 400mhz processor.
Is that enough info to get started with getting a link to look into the posibility of upgrading the OS?
Thanks, Jay
roms are uniqe to a device and cant be used on other devices then the model it was made for 2 HTC devices cant even use the same rom if they are not the same model
not sure about your Hitachi but some of the pda's from Hitachi dident even have a flash rom but a hardcoded rom which can never be upgraded

Breaking! - winmo 7 is not based on wince at all

CASE SOLVED, GO HERE OR LOOK AT PAGE 13
NOTE: Typo in poll, CE 7.0, NOT 6.0
I was in Bett 2010, an official rep there said that winmo 7 WAS NOT BASED ON CE AT ALL!!! No more infomation was given, my source is based in an office next door to the winmo development centre, he says that there is no CE BUILD USED AT ALL!!! He didn't anything else, if this is the case, we may have a serious problem, sorry to break the bad news
Will answer any questions i can
Badwolve1
Don't mean to be harsh, and thanks for informing the community,
but... so what? if it were true, why would it be a bad thing?
Why a bad thing?
Maybe because all our programs will become a unusable piece of ce code?
jfrm said:
Why a bad thing?
Maybe because all our programs will become a unusable piece of ce code?
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Exactly. Cab files and all that would be a thing of the past and we'd all have to start over from square 1 and re-learn everything.
dwizzy130
How about not being able to use all those apps you may have purchased that are based on CE. (Unless of a compatibility feature/how'd that work with vista? lol) May have to wait till software developer creates new version (if they decide to port).
I seriously don't doubt that in this case there will be some compatibility functionality. It just would not make sense business-wise if microsoft didn't, so I still don't see why it's a bad thing...
Survey says....... thats a lie.
how do I know?
Simple, we would've seen OEM software i.e. HTC, LG, Samsung leak something totally unfamiliar to us.
WM7 rumors get crazier by the year.
Unless Microsoft has suddenly turned into Apple, they will provide backwards compatibility.
vetvito said:
Survey says....... thats a lie.
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I'm with you in that survey.lol
dwizzy130
Badwolve1 said:
I was in Bett 2010, an official rep there said that winmo 7 WAS NOT BASED ON CE AT ALL!!! No more infomation was given, my source is based in an office next door to the winmo development centre, he says that there is no CE BUILD USED AT ALL!!! He didn't anything else, if this is the case, we may have a serious problem, sorry to break the bad news
Will answer any questions i can
Badwolve1
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Please, give us more information if you can. Because if that is true, then it would confirm a very interesting theory that I thought about, based on things I've heard.
So please, try to find out more! Most important, try to find out information about the next CE based version (WM6.6?).
EDIT: By the way, I think this is in the wrong forum, shouldn't it be in General?
As far as I know, WM7 will be based on CE7. That means we'll need new bootloaders etc. There's also some stuff that seems to point to CE5.2 (WM5+) code not running on the CE7 base (the CE6 Zune HD things won't run on CE5.2 and I think the reverse is true), but I heard there was an emulation layer much like the way you can run programs in XP mode on W7.
CE7
Could this be the new WM7?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#
Given that the memory model changed in CE6 and that WinMo 7 apparently has a HAL (http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12103) it's likely that a lot of CE5.2 apps won't run on WinMo 7
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if apps built in .NET CF can simply be recompiled to run on WinMo 7 - it would be very unlike Microsoft to not provide some sort of backwards compatibility
Ut0p1a said:
Could this be the new WM7?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#
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Thats Schaps project. He has been working on it for a while, and looks like he is back...!
Ut0p1a said:
Could this be the new WM7?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq02FFo-lOI&feature=player_embedded#
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Nope.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411836
Theres a wm7 wince 5.2 bsp thats all i can say =]
Badwolve1 said:
I was in Bett 2010, an official rep there said that winmo 7 WAS NOT BASED ON CE AT ALL!!! No more infomation was given, my source is based in an office next door to the winmo development centre, he says that there is no CE BUILD USED AT ALL!!! He didn't anything else, if this is the case, we may have a serious problem, sorry to break the bad news
Will answer any questions i can
Badwolve1
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Can't be true at all. The major advantage MS currently has in mobile segment is its vast application base. MS won't like commit a suicide by deciding to make WM7 not backward compatible.
WinCE has been around since ages now, by dumping WinCE, MS will lose it's market share in mobile/embedded devices sector. And if they are continuing with WinCE, then why not using it in their mobile OS, instead of creating a new kernel from the scratch.
Unless MS has decided to make PC and Mobile software compatible to each other natively.
Intresting...but I am calling it fake news..
the0ne said:
Intresting...but I am calling it fake news..
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+1
This shouldn't be called news unless it is really news! it can be called a rumor at best
WM7 is still a mystery, i have heared it will be based on Silverlight but who knows! i know MVPs who don't know anything about it. MS is NOT and i repeat NOT allowing anything to be leaked!
30 days 4 hours 4 minutes left till Windows Mobile 7.
http://msmobiles.com/wm7.php
anaadoul said:
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This shouldn't be called news unless it is really news! it can be called a rumor at best
WM7 is still a mystery, i have heared it will be based on Silverlight but who knows! i know MVPs who don't know anything about it. MS is NOT and i repeat NOT allowing anything to be leaked!
30 days 4 hours 4 minutes left till Windows Mobile 7.
http://msmobiles.com/wm7.php
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Look here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8902.html
dwizzy130

Ubuntu MID Development Project

I am currently asking around if people would be interested in Ubuntu MID for HTC Hero?
Now my question is would you be interested in this?
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
i am interested..
M
Just went to your site and from the look of it , it looks amazing!, really impressive and hoping this will actually come out soon
yes imteresed
kosworld said:
yes imteresed
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same here looks nice
I know that we are on the Hero section, but your post seems to be interesting for the Archos:
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualos.html?country=gb&lang=en
I think it will be easier with the dual boot
@dbschr - Will you be developing this project, compiling a capable kernel is going to require a lot of attention, especially as the hero isn't open-source.
I would be interested fo sure - but why do You ask?
Stickman89 said:
@dbschr - Will you be developing this project, compiling a capable kernel is going to require a lot of attention, especially as the hero isn't open-source.
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The kernel's open-source, and the underlying OS is open-source. Yeah, the HTC drivers are closed, but with the kernel itself being open, they would be very easy to implement in another OS, like Ubuntu Mobile.
that day i was reading in a website that nokia n900 is dual booting ubuntu mobile without any significant lag.
Count me in
as I know, Ubuntu MID is targeted for Internet devices, or recently known as Tablets..
I don't know if you can make calls with this distribution !!
but .. what's the harm in trying?! downloading..
i would be interested...as long as i would have all the basic functions of my Hero working(Phone,modem,gps,3d drivers,speakers,accelerometer,hardware buttons,etc)
HD2
how would i go about loading Ubuntu MID onto my HD2, the hardware can more than handle it i just don't know enough about the boot loader to re-write it.
You can actually mount any distro and connect with vnc to it... i know someone on Modaco who managed to run a fully Ubuntu on his Hero But it's almost unusable...
Details for running linux on your hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582347
Has any development actually begun?
Ubuntu MID edition is actually discontinued, if you read the wiki.
d3sm0nd said:
You can actually mount any distro and connect with vnc to it... i know someone on Modaco who managed to run a fully Ubuntu on his Hero But it's almost unusable...
Details for running linux on your hero here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582347
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this different. it is a chroot environment, not ubuntu actually running on the phone.
I bought this hero for android so I cant see the thing about having a sluggish os like ubuntu on it!! I would rather see slitaz linux to see how fast it runs as its a desktop distro at 27mb is quick!!!
The more ablities I have, the better the world is. I'm in!

Windows Embedded Compact 7 (CE7) released!

Microsoft officially unveiled WinCE7 which is widely believed to be the core of Windows Phone 7. Not only that, but they made a CTP download available. To grab it go to https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/non-feedback, find the "Windows Embedded Compact" product and click apply (it will automatically accept you). This is just a CTP and the product is expected to RTM Q4 of this year.
Hopefully this will help out the WP7 porting/hacking process.
oooh damn 8017 mb lol
thanks for notifying!
Been waiting for this, the headers will have alot of good stuff we need to push WP7 dev up Downloading!
Da_G said:
Been waiting for this, the headers will have alot of good stuff we need to push WP7 dev up Downloading!
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i also saw this earlier and thought it might help porting...
\WINCE700\platform\common\src\common\bldr\inc\bootdownloadbinformat.h appears to contain the structure of a flash.store.bin, but it's the same one i've looked at before, and doesn't match up with the one in the mondrian nbh, argh
RustyGrom said:
Microsoft officially unveiled WinCE7 which is widely believed to be the core of Windows Phone 7. Not only that, but they made a CTP download available. To grab it go to https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/non-feedback, find the "Windows Embedded Compact" product and click apply (it will automatically accept you). This is just a CTP and the product is expected to RTM Q4 of this year.
Hopefully this will help out the WP7 porting/hacking process.
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I thought WinPh7 was based on WinCE 6.0?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22882/Windows_Phone_7_Series_To_Finally_Bring_CE_6_0_to_Users
joe_coolish said:
I thought WinPh7 was based on WinCE 6.0?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22882/Windows_Phone_7_Series_To_Finally_Bring_CE_6_0_to_Users
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649911
Get going Da_G, we need it rapidly.
joe_coolish said:
I thought WinPh7 was based on WinCE 6.0?
http://www.osnews.com/story/22882/Windows_Phone_7_Series_To_Finally_Bring_CE_6_0_to_Users
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Indeed, the architecture documents do specifically say CE6.0.
im not progammer but i have this i duno how to use could someone help me ?
Proz00 said:
im not progammer but i have this i duno how to use could someone help me ?
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Try to MS Site, my friend
One thing I noticed after too much poking through this with a fine tooth comb,
The reason the Emulator files were marked ARMv4I Thumb in the PE headers even though they contain x86 code, is that ARMv4I Thumb is a fallback for "unknown" CPU type. I found it peculiar initially because there is a discreet "i386" value. I would guess MS has it marked somewhere as "emulated x86" rather than "i386"
hey
someone success to make NK.bin that work on qemu ?
its give me error
jumping to 0xXXXXXX somthing and halted
We are everyday nearer to the release of WP 7 , may be more leak will surface, cross our finger ... i cant help much, keep going guys...
Unless you are a good programmer, who can build a custom shell, and pick the right windows components to include in a package, there is absolutely ZERO use with this for the public.
It is a bare bones building block version of windows, which you could put on a tablet or smaller device, with a non x86 or x64 processor as well as those two kinds, which you can build your app, or shell ontop of.
Hi. i assume it is not coincidence that ctp was release in july (?) and it took just about those 5 months for wp7 hd2 dft release? and then there is of course this:
http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/WP7S/IMAG0202.jpg
so this is the starting point hey . I am getting ce7 up along with riff box jtag, ida pro, and few other tools. I may be crazzzy but really want to get this new bldr +- oal +- nk.exe to strap up (onto- ie ce7 as quasi-firmware) a ntoskrnl.exe build.
I have win(nt) source.

Noob looking for advice.

I never used Linux never knew anyone who has. What can you run on Linux game wise? Can you play any Windows games on Linux? What is the newest version of Linux? How do you buy computer parts to make a Linux computer? All I ever seen is Windows logo on parts. Whats the advantages compared to Windows? How does one get it one a computer does if come on a disk or flash someplace?
Thank you
Rbohannon89 said:
I never used Linux never knew anyone who has. What can you run on Linux game wise? Can you play any Windows games on Linux? What is the newest version of Linux? How do you buy computer parts to make a Linux computer? All I ever seen is Windows logo on parts. Whats the advantages compared to Windows? How does one get it one a computer does if come on a disk or flash someplace? Thank you
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I haven't used Linux directly in quite a long time but, the following threads may be helpful in understanding it a bit better. Don't be afraid to ask for some member guidance within one of them too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723240
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3300596
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3530696
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2885245
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076138
There's others out there but, this will give you a good start...
Good Luck!
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I looked at them but that didn't answer any my question.
There is Steam on Linux. And lot of games are available on Linux. You can't play all windows games on Linux .
http://store.steampowered.com/linux
Windows is like an LTS OS if compared to Linux.
So Ubuntu 16.04 is a safe.
Some OS are updated on daily basis like Arch , Debian.
Some every 6 months like Linux Mint & Ubuntu ,
Linux runs on everything. So basically , as long as you have a computing device.
As far as custom Linux PC is concerned, checkout System76.
https://system76.com/
There are nice builds and they come with good support.
karandpr said:
There is Steam on Linux. And lot of games are available on Linux. You can't play all windows games on Linux .
http://store.steampowered.com/linux
Windows is like an LTS OS if compared to Linux.
So Ubuntu 16.04 is a safe.
Some OS are updated on daily basis like Arch , Debian.
Some every 6 months like Linux Mint & Ubuntu ,
Linux runs on everything. So basically , as long as you have a computing device.
As far as custom Linux PC is concerned, checkout System76.
https://system76.com/
There are nice builds and they come with good support.
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What is the advantages and disadvantages in having linux? Also what do most people use it for everyday personal use?
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What is the advantages and disadvantages in having linux? Also what do most people use it for everyday personal use?
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Linux just works. Windows has lot of software. Mac is really optimized.
People use Linux to devlop software mostly. Cos it's has great support for development and most servers run on linux.
Windows is still for people who want variety of software and games.
karandpr said:
Linux just works. Windows has lot of software. Mac is really optimized.
People use Linux to devlop software mostly. Cos it's has great support for development and most servers run on linux.
Windows is still for people who want variety of software and games.
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So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
Rbohannon89 said:
So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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There are lot of steam games for linux . Older games can be played using Wine or Crossover...
Don't expect to play newer games due to graphics card limitations. (DirectX and Video graphics drivers cause issues.)
Rbohannon89 said:
So can I can play Windows games somehow? I'm only asking cause I'm thinking of buying a older laptop to experiment with and always curious about Linux. Wanted to play with Linux and learn it. Thanks for the response.
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An older laptop would be a good way to start. Since it's an older laptop I don't imagine there will be an expectation to play new games on it, Windows or otherwise. Still, remains a great way to dip in and and look at Linux's potential.
Also, the make and model of the laptop can determine how well it is suited for Linux (you have mentioned the Windows stickers earlier - especially recently manufacturers have been making it difficult to allow the switch to Linux), can do a web search with 'linux' in the search, or a distribution. e.g. ...
Code:
linux support lenovo t420
debian support lenovo t420
Lenovo, HP, and Dell are big names that appear to play nice (and System76 makes PC's for Linux). Others, can be like rolling the dice.
And when I hint at a difficult time, it's usually the wi-fi, sometimes the trackpad, maybe sound, rarely something very important like video.
Not saying this to discourage, only to suggest research when it comes to any equipment, old or new. Hopefully the toughest thing would be deciding which distribution to choose - I'm enough of an old fogey to stick to versioned, long-term releases like Debian and avoid the bleeding edge "rolling releases" provide.
Hope this helps.
Oh (looking back to the first post), advantages (which are in the eye of the beholder since they can potentially hold a disadvantage):
Free (as in freedom). I like to be able to vote with my dollar, even though Linux users are rarely obligated to pay for software. This is a philosophical reason, and one can go deep down that rabbit hole, what I like is, nothing is hidden from the public eye since the software is often accompanied by source code, on request. Which makes it difficult for say, a search assistant to send unknown data back to the mother ship.
Variety of experience. If you don't like an application, a windows manager, heck even the init process, you can replace it with something else or even write your own.
Support for older hardware. Often the method to revive a five to ten (sometimes quite older - I occasionally run an up-to-date Linux-powered laptop from 2002 with very satisfactory results) year old device for a new life.
Thank you so much for the replies. What kind of hardware and era should I look for to make a smart decision to what kind of laptop to get? From someone who has never ever used linux or even seen it only used windows how hard is the learning curb? Can I load it on the the pc and just go for it or will I be massively confused?
Rbohannon89 said:
Thank you so much for the replies. What kind of hardware and era should I look for to make a smart decision to what kind of laptop to get? From someone who has never ever used linux or even seen it only used windows how hard is the learning curb? Can I load it on the the pc and just go for it or will I be massively confused?
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I would go for a once-mid-to-high-end laptop of about six years old (newer run but still holding the Windows 7 stickers), from a vendor I noted before. It does not guarantee complete compatibility so you would still want to cross reference the model number.
I am not a fan of "chiclet" keyboards (I have enough difficulty typing on laptop keyboards) and have fond memories of the IBM ThinkPads (I used to own the popular 600X) that I maintain one of the final bastions before Lenovo took design tips from Apple (by the way, I hear MacBooks can have reasonable compatibility as well, though there would be an extra premium there).
For a laptop longevity perspective (the second thing to look for), a "flagship" laptop from a vendor (especially from Apple or Lenovo) means better access to (and thus generally less expensive) spare parts. To identify this on the Lenovo side, it would mean part of the "T" or "X" lineup (both are business grade; the X models just have a smaller footprint). For what it's worth, business-grade HP laptops are the "ProBook" series.
From what I understand, the learning curve is not that difficult. There have been people who knew nothing about computers that learned Linux quite easily. The challenge for a Windows user trying Linux becomes "un-learning" specific workflow to make way for new ways of doing things. Apologies I can only be general - me trying to share my experience with the learning curve is difficult since that transition was about two decades ago and Microsoft drastically changed the typical user's workflow three times between the early 1990's of my first computer and the year 2000 (MS-DOS -> Windows 3.1 -> Windows 95 -> NT5) that makes the transition from Windows 7 to 8 to 10 look like a food fight. The first year I was quite reliant on a guru (I was in the expectation to accelerate my knowledge for an upcoming project) until I was directed to not use that as a crutch. A bit sad to say, that moment I was told to "RTFM" for a simple problem was when I really started to learn.
But I would definitely not dive into the deep end (as they say) by wiping your main computer for Linux. For starters, even with decent backups (which you should be doing anyway), your data can be inaccessible (installing Linux on a fully set up PC means losing all your personal files there, and if your backup tool to other media is done by a Windows program, Linux may not support restoring that data).
It is also a quick way to become frustrated when hitting even a small roadblock. I would not use "confused" as asked above for this phenomenon. When you combine the impact of the problem with the time in which you would need it resolved by, it can create a sort of desperation on a forum when the answer could have been glaring back without realizing it. Depending on how well documented the issue's solution is (and when a problem that prevents the achievement of a deadline occours on short notice, blind spots tend to happen to even the best of us), would-be readers get frustrated as well and may criticize the lack of research. An exaggerated XDA example of this is when someone flashes a ROM on their daily driver, without any backups first, without wiping anything, and then frantic that their only phone has app force closures every five seconds - and the plane for their two week trip leaves in six hours. In short, a dedicated device to play on means you set the pace on how you want to learn.
A dedicated laptop would be the better way to go. For a no-cost (no additional hardware to buy) demo of Linux, can try a live CD (will also determine how your hardware can interact with Linux) or maintain a persistent instance through an install in Oracle VirtualBox or VMWare (which Linux will work even if your hardware does not play with Linux). Much further away from recommended territory we have the "cold turkey" method (gripes noted in previous two paragraphs), and finally - for a reason - dual-boot (which has to opportunity to hose one or both operating systems at any given moment - including your data - for as something as simple as a Windows Update).
This turned out to be longer than expected, but I hope this helps.
So it's been about 20 I don't know it's been about since 1997 that I played the Linux or Kali nethunter I was wondering if these are possible put on my smg900v or piece of crap that's the original smart phone from Samsung I don't remember the name but it still on Android Jelly Bean I believe was interested if I could take my two older phones and wipe the OS completely and make them nothing but Linux because I used to have a lot of fun with that we used to stay up and drink beers and play on it you know and then it went away in 2008 and I haven't had a cell phone in years because my work gave me one any advice would be appreciated but my youngest son would probably really be interested in it are you having dyslexia try to get him in anything also I found back in the day where they used to convert that phone to be 2G but I can't find anything but the source code and I don't know how to completely enter source code into an Android phone I had a computer I can do it on the computer but not a phone
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So it's been about 20 I don't know it's been about since 1997 that I played the Linux or Kali nethunter I was wondering if these are possible put on my smg900v or piece of crap that's the original smart phone from Samsung I don't remember the name but it still on Android Jelly Bean I believe was interested if I could take my two older phones and wipe the OS completely and make them nothing but Linux because I used to have a lot of fun with that we used to stay up and drink beers and play on it you know and then it went away in 2008 and I haven't had a cell phone in years because my work gave me one any advice would be appreciated but my youngest son would probably really be interested in it are you having dyslexia try to get him in anything also I found back in the day where they used to convert that phone to be 2G but I can't find anything but the source code and I don't know how to completely enter source code into an Android phone I had a computer I can do it on the computer but not a phone
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The closest thing you can do is run linux with chroot.
Here is a good post to get you started.
https://www.xda-developers.com/guid...a-gnulinux-environment-on-any-android-device/

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