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Windows Mobile 2nd Edition on the XDA

Has anyone attempted to port the OS onto the XDA yet?
I know this is still very early days - but I was so happy with by Yorch ROM kitchen WM2003 upgrade for my XDA1 - I was wondering whether we are likely to see the second edition upgrade here at some point.
Is anyone looking into the feasability - I know certain IPAQ devices have already been given the upgrade by the OEM and that certain models are not compatable due to ROM size??
Also - is there the possibility that the windows media centre mobile OS may make it onto the XDA?? I only ask because I have read that the 4gb microdrive from the muvo2 works in the backpack CF slot - byebye mini Ipod.
I know there are legal issues involved - but I am more interested in the logistical factors and possibilities at the moment?
Let me know what you think.
Jayman :shock:

i dont think that any of the 2003 versions were portet from another type of pda
they were as far as i know all based on 2003 versions beta and otherwise from tmobile, o2 and siemens
not sure if one could port a rom from like an ipaq
since it may have a different hardware

maybe O2?
I've read several time on the web that O2 will release the WM2003SE upgrade. Seriously. Don't know how reliable this info is though :?

Update Verizon Motorola Q (black) to WM6

As the title states, is there currently a way to upgrade the Verizon Wireless Motorola Q (black version) to Windows Mobile 6?
Regards in advance
-Evomac-

I'll second that question --
I should definitely read more on this forum before asking such dumb questions, (hi, I'm new!) but curiosity is killing me...
How cross-platform/generic are these OS?
I notice that there's a different release of WM6 Pro for every different HTC model, which scares me...
I was toying around with the idea that the T-mobile Dash (aka HTC Excalibur) is a 'smartphone' running WM6 Standard.
That puts it in the same ballpark as the Q, they're both 320x240 w/ no touchscreen!
However, the S620/excalibur/whatever runs a T.I. OMAP850 cpu on GSM;
whereas the Q features an Intel XScale PXA272, and CDMA
As a guy who has a Verizon Q which will likely be left at wm5 forever, I *really* want to try something out, but really am not excited about bricking my phone.
anyone have any great ideas?

I still have return time left on my phone so I would be willing to try something. Since you can almost be certain Verizon won't upgrade the OS.

I've been searching for a motorola Q wm6 ROM myself as well. No luck anywhere so far... ideas?

My girlfriend has a Q, even though I adviseid her not to buy it because of it's wm5 (not even professional) shortcomings for a smartphone, and now she complains about the phone contstantly. Yeah, the features she wants are all wm6, such as real windows live, etc.

anyone have a solution for Moto Q to WM6???

MOTO Q can be cooked
I just found a monster flash file wit an .SBF extension.
I renamed it to OS.NB (changing only the extension) and was able to dump the OS and OEM.
So I believe it is possible to cook it.
Personaly, For a smartphone it has good hardware; and being a motorola, the entire phone is the antena. with propper software this can eventualy be a good device...
I have the OS dump; and I am sure that with the rest of the stuff I found on (like RSDLite) it is possible to cook the Q.
Trouble is that We NEED someone who can make a kitchen for us.

A kitchen to do this sure would be nice... Bit it looks as if it'll never happen.
It's just sad. The Moto Q is a good phone, but being stuck with the crappy Windows Mobile 5 OS makes it a piece a crap these days. I'm finding more and more software that just won't work because of the dinosaur of an OS it has.

I think this will be my next project. now i just need to find a motorola q, so i can get to work on it. it was a good device, for its time. and it was so easy to type on, size was all there.
i just never been able to get it to dump, never try to rename the files. i will have to give this a shot, but i am sure it can be done.
I used the Scoter Kitchen. Renamed the Monster flash file to OS.nb and ran it. and I was able to get all of the files out of there.
Scoter Kitchen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293296
All different Motorola Flash files, all different phones all different carriers. take a look at it.
http://www.mobile-files.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54197

any news on this story?

81344songz said:
any news on this story?
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not at the moment. its in progress.

Are we any closer to a ROM update? I appreciate the time you are taking out of your personal lives to investigate this.

I have a Q11 and I could dump my firmware is very easy,
The program creates a folder with the "dump" and a .bin file
if you want to cook a rom just need to modify the folder called dump
Then you must convert the dump file. to a bin file with the same program

Has anyone been able to make any progress with the Q?

I'm also very interested in this. I have a Verizon Q (black) that has been reflashed to Bell mobility in Canada and I am using it on the MTS cdma network in Manitoba. I'd really like to have wm6 on this thing, as wm5 is proving quite clunky...

me 2 waiting for something......

Any rom or monster files?
i know this thread is old but i have a moto q9m
just give me any windows mobile 6 rom for the moto q
how can i backup my entire phone before flashing?

I bought Moto Q black last year (yes, im a noob), and had no clue wm5 sucked so bad, and... no upgrade options at all, even for $$$ ??? wow
so, just to bump this thread, and say thanks and hope and well, maybe get another phone,,, blah blah... oh.alsdkfha;lksdhflkj
anyway... here's hoping, after all, it is really really cool, great feel, buttons are great, all that, wonderful phone, though i'm sure i paid too much for it, flashed to cricket (new in box) for 89$ ebay
an addendum to the question/project:
can it be flashed to boost? (for the $25 plan)?
thanks and good luck
if nothing comes of this, what phone would you recommend that is 'like' the moto q black (the rubberized grip is great, the little wheel is really cool, i like the brick style, not flip or slide, fits so good in my hand, and so on, what a phone... tried an htc phone recently but the touch was non sensitive and it couldn't hold a charge long enough, though that is just that, also it seemed it was made for a small asian woman's hand)

I32 hiphone

Okay im very new to this website so if ive done this wrong pls no flames just point me to where i gotta go.
But Generally Im trying to know if it is possible to get windows mobile on my I32 Hi-phone (the new Iphone fake from japan).
I tried looking in the list on the forum but im unsure as to where to begin.

wm roms are taylored directly for a special phone
making a rom for a device which was not made for wm
would require special tools only the ms patners get
and drivers for all hardware and alot of time
so i would not hold by breath waiting for wm on nokia or other
non wm devices to be able to run wm ever
included your phone

waslit said:
Okay im very new to this website so if ive done this wrong pls no flames just point me to where i gotta go.
But Generally Im trying to know if it is possible to get windows mobile on my I32 Hi-phone (the new Iphone fake from japan).
I tried looking in the list on the forum but im unsure as to where to begin.
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Offtopic: Gotta tell you, the coolest thing with this phone is that you can add background sound to ongoing calls... So if you are home on a saturday and want everyone who calles you to belive you are out partying - just add the "party background sound" LOL! Hehe!

The only iPhone clone that has WM6 is the Daxian X999, I highly doubt the other phones have the components necessary to run windows mobile. That said I had a Daxian X999 and it was good but unfortunately the ram has corrupted or one of the pieces of memory in it has and I had to return it for repair.

i had this phone for 2 days, that's how long i could bare with it. it is crap and doesn't have all the functionalities advertised. it didn't even support java for god's sake one advice, get rid of it fast!

@ hiphonepro.com we have ripped the firmware out and put new firmware in via usb and spiderman 2.20 but we so need coders to put this firmware straight

h6325 Series windows 6.1

Hello,
First I would like to say that you guys are doing great work.
I have an iPaq h6325 which if you are familiar with the model, has an issue with losing all your data when the battery in drained or removed. This problem may or may not be resolved with software -- to date.. no fix has EVER been made, and HP deny's this as an issue -- it's by design!! The same thing goes for the extremely low volume for sound direct from the handset.
Anyway, my question for you is that I have noticed cooked copies for various models of iPaqs, including 6.1 for the h2000 series. What is necessary for you to make a copy of 6.1 for my model of iPaq. I am really sick of looking at Windows CE 2003, on my pure touch device when it can do just as much as an iPhone if using Windows CE 6.1 (hardware wise).
Please help.
Thank you.

.... anyone please ?

p.s.
I modded my ipaq 6325 so it now reads as a 6365 ... if that helps....
i can't believe this topic is so dead....
this is one of the best pieces of hardware they have.. even better than a lot of the newer garbage with tiny screens.... the biggest downfall is something which is fixed using a newer OS ... aka ... Windows Mobile 6 ... stores the information so it NEVER gets lost.. even if the battery dies... (which is retarded.... at this moment... I hate the lazy engineers at HP!!!... I will never buy another one cuz their support stinks... and they are so happy to replace the defective one with another one, just as defective!!!)
gaaaaaaaarrrh.... why couldn't everything go the way of the Vic 20!! .. instant OS... stable!!... and fast!!!

not to sound impatient, but day 3 now, and still no response to my post ?

Why do I want WM6.5 on my BA?

My apologies if I'm posting in the wrong area...
SO, I recently aquired an SX66 and am deciding on the 2003se Tmo rom, or WM6.5 (or whatever.
I can't find a concise answer: why do I want WM6.5?
What does it do that 2003se doesn't do, or why is it better?
Is it stable?
What are the major drawbacks to using WM6.5 on my BA?
Are there problems with going back to 2003se?
And what are the chances of bricking my device, provided I follow the instructions correctly?
AND what is (are) the most common mistake(s) that will brick my device when upgrading to 6.5 (besides cutting power/usb in process)?
I know some or all of the answers to these questions are out there (I've been looking), but it would be nice to have an idiot's single post to refer to for the most basic questions/answers.
TIA!

Hi,
if I were you I would never put WM 6.5 on your BA, I don't like 6.5. I would stay 6.0 or 6.1.
But WM 6 Has more compatibility with programs and has more functionality.
I don't know if its stable, because I cant get it on my BA( I have Ran WM 6/ 6.1/6.5 on a Kaiser).
Further someone else will awnser I think

Why not on your BA (do you have a ph20b?)?

im not sure about your taste in operating systems but i'm a XP loving vistahater.
wm6.5 is vista merged with OSX for your 5 year old phone. I flashed one of my BAs with it last night. it was horrible. speed wise, i about threw the phone against the wall. GUI wise? No more start menu, no more programs menu, no more settings menu. it's all been replaced with that ohsowonderful honeycomb gui. sure, it MAY be better for fingers, not that the old style was that hard, but christ almighty it makes doing anything hairpull-hard.
shortversion:
go with wm2003 or wm5. i find they're faster. i prefer 2003, since it runs all in RAM.
as for your brick question, i aint too sure. i'd like to know how exactly you brick one of these meself. i can't find anything on it, the documentation of the BA is surprisngly lacking for most of this.

I like the new builds of 6.5 with the big bottom bar, but it is so much less functional. I would definitely go with something besides 6.5, although in my experience I found it faster than any other version of winmo. I have had a few lockups, but mostly just with the comm manager/internet.

its hard to judge its fastness since its so..hard to navigate. i can't even read the icons, let alone try and use it.
microsoft trying to copy apple does not produce good results, methinks.
and hte new homescreen irks me. its usability is horrible, its better on blueangel but on the hermes it was just bad.

I still use WM2003 because:
1. The device is designed for this OS.
2. I don't have needless time to spent for OS experiments.
3. I like small and fast Office versions like the old Word and Excel Mobile.
4. I like the build in encryption in Excel Mobile.
5. I don't like the soft keys (>= WM5), because they replace more usable and faster menus.
6. All applications I need run under WM2003.
I'll change my OS when I change my device (currently hoping for the HTC Thoth.).

You guys are great.
To be hones, I hate M$ (no flaming, please) and have been running Ubuntu Linux for about the last year. I especially hate Vista.
I also appriciate the insight into the feel of the WM6.5 os. I don't care about newest, latest, or greatest. I want "works great", so it looks like I'll be sticking with the Tmo 2003se rom.
Thanks ya'll.

..why not install linux then? i got linux working on mine. i cant seem to interface witht he actual phone though. perhaps thats tonights project.
interesting thing to play with though.

interestingfellow said:
You guys are great.
To be hones, I hate M$ (no flaming, please) and have been running Ubuntu Linux for about the last year. I especially hate Vista.
I also appriciate the insight into the feel of the WM6.5 os. I don't care about newest, latest, or greatest. I want "works great", so it looks like I'll be sticking with the Tmo 2003se rom.
Thanks ya'll.
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I also tried Linux on my BA. It's wonderful and plenty of possibilities but ... only possibilities because the hardware is not open and people needs to hack this device.
I don't want to buy anymore a device that needs the work of some guys like xplode working hard to get these devices running properly.
I don't want to spend thousands of hours getting my 500 Eur. mobile connected to wifi. And when I ask the carrier he says me that they have no plans to solve the problem, so I solved myself the problem (thnks a lot, xda-developers).
No, no and nooo. So I decided to stay with my BA in Windows 2003se wwe and wait ...
-Hum: HTC blackstone. Very nice but Windows. No more Windows, please.
-Hum: Neo Freerunner. Open but no future.
-Hum: Iphone. Very nice. Very closed. No, thanks.
-Hum: HTC Dream. Linux but hiddenly closed Android on top capturing my traffic. NOoo.
-Hum: Palm pre. Linux but WebOS in the same way that Android or Iphone. No, thanks.
-Hum: Nokia's N900. Linux debian. Open. May be this is my phone. I will wait a couple of months to see your opinions.
Regards,
Àngel

Why WM 6.5?
because sooner or later, it will have more compatibility than the old OS.
more compatible with the new apps, games, tools, hardware like gps, a2dp support,wifi type N,and many more.
maybe today WM 6.5 maybe still craps, have a lot of bugs,etc, but newer OS is designed to be better from the previous one, it's just about time whether m$ can make it better or just make another mistake like vista..we'll see

that isnt entirely relevant to the blueangel though.
yeah. wm6.5 is the new wmstandard, so new hardware will have drivers for it and not for the others.
but we're not talking new hardware here. we're talking a device built in 2004 for wm2003, there is no new hardware for it. as for new appz and gamezzzz, wm6.5 is mostly a new interface from what ive gathered. the OS core isnt changed to the point of changing older APIs. programs should work both ways.
and sooner or later? its supposed to be replaced in a year. methinks nobody is going to jump on the bandwagon that fast.
pointis, its bad. unless you like the new interface, its no different. except slower.

I flashed on the newest tmo uk rom for 2003se, and I'm happy with it. I"m used to the 2003/se OS, and all the progs I know about and have a copy of, work on it.
Linux seems like a great idea, but I don't have time to spend getting it right.
I might try WM5 or 6/6.5 after I get my hands on the universal that's on it's way, but I need my phone to work, and work well, right now.

..i hate you. the universal needs to drop a few hundred bucks in price so i can grab 3 of them. it seems like a nicephone, i want it. damnit.
if you want i can DD my linux SDcard and upload the image. just dd it to a sd, pop it in and run haret. methinks it should work. actually im going to do that.

it was quick, feel free to better clean up the article but i have created a quickstart guide using my image for linux on hte BA.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_Linux
i'm tired and fizzled out, so anyone feel free to rewrite it to more easily understandability.

Kind of off topic, but the linux for the BA is ran off an sd card? Kind of like a live cd that doesn't touch the roms and storage(s); just pop out the sd and soft reset, and everything is back to WM? I would totally advertise that aspect of it... it might get more people into linux for the HTC devices (or maybe I just caught up to the bandwagon)

of course. thats how all linux is ran on htc phones from my knowedlge, i havent heard of anyone actually replacing WM with it.

If its any help
Is it stable?
Yes both 6.1 and 6.5 is stable enough.
I tried every rom and tested throughly and decided to stick to Sun Dreams 6.1 as it is very stable
What are the major drawbacks to using WM6.5 on my BA?
None
Are there problems with going back to 2003se?
Nope, as long as you dont repart you ll be ok to go back to 2003 (someone pls correct If I am wrong) But I dont think you would wanna go back to 2003se as most of the todays apps designed to run on wm5 and later
And what are the chances of bricking my device, provided I follow the instructions correctly?
Slim
Make sure no ones using the microwave washing machine and the dishwasher whilst they are hoovering you ll be fine. Just read the instructions over and over till you are ok with it. Patience and make sure both batteries device/laptop whatever charged up and Use XP as it makes things easy.
AND what is (are) the most common mistake(s) that will brick my device when upgrading to 6.5 (besides cutting power/usb in process)?
make sure you have the right rom !!! you ll be fine
I know some or all of the answers to these questions are out there (I've been looking), but it would be nice to have an idiot's single post to refer to for the most basic questions/answers.
I remember my first time I was totally scared !!!

i wasnt scared.
i was more scared when i realized i had a flash going on my harrier and had just popped out the battery. bricked to ****.
and 2003 is better than them. faster. and **** appcompatibility. OS speed matters more.

Yeah, there are no linux or android flashable roms... yet, but in regard to reasons to upgrade
1.smooth flick (or kinetic) scrolling basically everywhere in the operated system
2.some built in app are updated i.e. internet explorer, contacts app
3.compatibilility with newer programs, alot of newer programs wont run on 2003
4.new today screen with bigger font and new plugins
If any1 would like to add feel free to do so.