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Hi i'm new to this forum so idon't know ifthis has been posted yet. I have a T-Mobile Pocket PC 2003. I would like to know if there is anyway to update the operating system to a newer one and what is involved with updating the ROM. Thank you for your time.
ziggy88 said:
Hi i'm new to this forum so idon't know ifthis has been posted yet. I have a T-Mobile Pocket PC 2003. I would like to know if there is anyway to update the operating system to a newer one and what is involved with updating the ROM. Thank you for your time.
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helps to know what make and model of phone you have, look on the main index page for your phone and look there, only certain pones can be upraded and the info you want is there.
T-mobile pocket pc 2003
thats not enough it pretty much the name of every windows mobile phone tmobile ever released and roms are unique for each model
they add naming like
mda or mdaII or mdaIII ....
Pardon my ignorance.
Is there a wm2002 phone? What is HP Jornada, wm2002?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jornada
and yes wallaby orginaly came with pocketpc 2002
about early windows CE phones then this was the first i saw
http://www.planetomni.com/GSM_SEMN_sx45_DTL.shtml
running not pocketpc but pure windows CE 3
I guess it would be the HTC wallaby. It looks exactly like that but it says "T-Mobile Pocket PC Phone Edition" on it.
I can't really find much on it so I wasn't sure which phone it was.
http://www.romkitchen.de/
Ok I was looking over the rom kitchen site at all the informationprovided and reading the manuals and what not and i still don't understand what i'm reading.Well I understand it but i don't want to ruin my phoneso does anyone know of a simple way of explaining what to do with this stuff to us who are just getting started out? Your time and patience are appreciated.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMkitchen
or
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD
interested in learning more as well
Hi all:
Although I am not a developer, I have found this a great resource for info beyond other forums.
Like ziggy88, I went to the ROM KITCHEN and took a look.
I am using a Hitachi G1000 WM 2002 device on Sprint.
This last week I have found an abundance of info on this device and just before was was contemplating upgrading. With the new info I have found, I am going to hold off.
So, it is an Intel PXA255 XScale 400mhz processor.
Is that enough info to get started with getting a link to look into the posibility of upgrading the OS?
Thanks, Jay
roms are uniqe to a device and cant be used on other devices then the model it was made for 2 HTC devices cant even use the same rom if they are not the same model
not sure about your Hitachi but some of the pda's from Hitachi dident even have a flash rom but a hardcoded rom which can never be upgraded
As the title states, is there currently a way to upgrade the Verizon Wireless Motorola Q (black version) to Windows Mobile 6?
Regards in advance
-Evomac-
I'll second that question --
I should definitely read more on this forum before asking such dumb questions, (hi, I'm new!) but curiosity is killing me...
How cross-platform/generic are these OS?
I notice that there's a different release of WM6 Pro for every different HTC model, which scares me...
I was toying around with the idea that the T-mobile Dash (aka HTC Excalibur) is a 'smartphone' running WM6 Standard.
That puts it in the same ballpark as the Q, they're both 320x240 w/ no touchscreen!
However, the S620/excalibur/whatever runs a T.I. OMAP850 cpu on GSM;
whereas the Q features an Intel XScale PXA272, and CDMA
As a guy who has a Verizon Q which will likely be left at wm5 forever, I *really* want to try something out, but really am not excited about bricking my phone.
anyone have any great ideas?
I still have return time left on my phone so I would be willing to try something. Since you can almost be certain Verizon won't upgrade the OS.
I've been searching for a motorola Q wm6 ROM myself as well. No luck anywhere so far... ideas?
My girlfriend has a Q, even though I adviseid her not to buy it because of it's wm5 (not even professional) shortcomings for a smartphone, and now she complains about the phone contstantly. Yeah, the features she wants are all wm6, such as real windows live, etc.
anyone have a solution for Moto Q to WM6???
MOTO Q can be cooked
I just found a monster flash file wit an .SBF extension.
I renamed it to OS.NB (changing only the extension) and was able to dump the OS and OEM.
So I believe it is possible to cook it.
Personaly, For a smartphone it has good hardware; and being a motorola, the entire phone is the antena. with propper software this can eventualy be a good device...
I have the OS dump; and I am sure that with the rest of the stuff I found on (like RSDLite) it is possible to cook the Q.
Trouble is that We NEED someone who can make a kitchen for us.
A kitchen to do this sure would be nice... Bit it looks as if it'll never happen.
It's just sad. The Moto Q is a good phone, but being stuck with the crappy Windows Mobile 5 OS makes it a piece a crap these days. I'm finding more and more software that just won't work because of the dinosaur of an OS it has.
I think this will be my next project. now i just need to find a motorola q, so i can get to work on it. it was a good device, for its time. and it was so easy to type on, size was all there.
i just never been able to get it to dump, never try to rename the files. i will have to give this a shot, but i am sure it can be done.
I used the Scoter Kitchen. Renamed the Monster flash file to OS.nb and ran it. and I was able to get all of the files out of there.
Scoter Kitchen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293296
All different Motorola Flash files, all different phones all different carriers. take a look at it.
http://www.mobile-files.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54197
any news on this story?
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any news on this story?
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not at the moment. its in progress.
Are we any closer to a ROM update? I appreciate the time you are taking out of your personal lives to investigate this.
I have a Q11 and I could dump my firmware is very easy,
The program creates a folder with the "dump" and a .bin file
if you want to cook a rom just need to modify the folder called dump
Then you must convert the dump file. to a bin file with the same program
Has anyone been able to make any progress with the Q?
I'm also very interested in this. I have a Verizon Q (black) that has been reflashed to Bell mobility in Canada and I am using it on the MTS cdma network in Manitoba. I'd really like to have wm6 on this thing, as wm5 is proving quite clunky...
me 2 waiting for something......
Any rom or monster files?
i know this thread is old but i have a moto q9m
just give me any windows mobile 6 rom for the moto q
how can i backup my entire phone before flashing?
I bought Moto Q black last year (yes, im a noob), and had no clue wm5 sucked so bad, and... no upgrade options at all, even for $$$ ??? wow
so, just to bump this thread, and say thanks and hope and well, maybe get another phone,,, blah blah... oh.alsdkfha;lksdhflkj
anyway... here's hoping, after all, it is really really cool, great feel, buttons are great, all that, wonderful phone, though i'm sure i paid too much for it, flashed to cricket (new in box) for 89$ ebay
an addendum to the question/project:
can it be flashed to boost? (for the $25 plan)?
thanks and good luck
if nothing comes of this, what phone would you recommend that is 'like' the moto q black (the rubberized grip is great, the little wheel is really cool, i like the brick style, not flip or slide, fits so good in my hand, and so on, what a phone... tried an htc phone recently but the touch was non sensitive and it couldn't hold a charge long enough, though that is just that, also it seemed it was made for a small asian woman's hand)
Hello everybody, this is a really nice forum, all you need to know about flashing an Excalibur windows mobile is here. Just amazing I found this!
Well, the story goes as follows:
My Nokia E62 died for no reason (when I turn it on, it just get frozen on the nokia logo) it seems there's a cure, but I need to send it to a repair shop or something like that.
The other option I have is to buy a new "unopened" (but unlocked) HTC E600 from a store, and flash it with a WM 6.5 or 6.1... I already have some flashing experience: I own an Acer N311 PDA that sports WM5 and I flashed to WM6.0 which brought new life to my PDA (except for some minor-and-not-often unstability issues)
My dilemma...:
1-send my beloved E62 to repair and keep going with it...
2-or buy the E600, new phone, new year, new life...? is it really a good choice? I like WM6 on my PDA, but is WM good when using it as a phone? What could go seriously wrong? Is the Java implementation good enough? Will I miss symbian...? etc etc..
no option 3 I could think about... (it would become a trilemma if so )
Thank you very much in advance!
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Hello everybody, this is a really nice forum, all you need to know about flashing an Excalibur windows mobile is here. Just amazing I found this!
Well, the story goes as follows:
My Nokia E62 died for no reason (when I turn it on, it just get frozen on the nokia logo) it seems there's a cure, but I need to send it to a repair shop or something like that.
The other option I have is to buy a new "unopened" (but unlocked) HTC E600 from a store, and flash it with a WM 6.5 or 6.1... I already have some flashing experience: I own an Acer N311 PDA that sports WM5 and I flashed to WM6.0 which brought new life to my PDA (except for some minor-and-not-often unstability issues)
My dilemma...:
1-send my beloved E62 to repair and keep going with it...
2-or buy the E600, new phone, new year, new life...? is it really a good choice? I like WM6 on my PDA, but is WM good when using it as a phone? What could go seriously wrong? Is the Java implementation good enough? Will I miss symbian...? etc etc..
no option 3 I could think about... (it would become a trilemma if so )
Thank you very much in advance!
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Well basically I think you got to figure out by yourself , since you are the one who knows what phone will be suitable to fill your expectations and cover your daily mobile needs. For my point of view, you need to compare the functionability that you want from a phone and if that phone is capable of provide you that. For me and many others, the dash and the amazing roms posted in this forum provides you all of that; since they have been elaborated to the different "tastes" of the thousands of users in this site. Because here, we want to take the dash to the edge and squeeze the last drop of resources that it can provide us. That is my personal opinion and many others will have a different one or similar. Something that might help can be a basic comparison and see what phone is offering you what. You can look here and decide from this basic specifications. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=1708&idPhone1=1696. Other thing to consider is this amazing forum, something that not many other brands might have. This can provide you an added value to your purchase if you decide for the excalibur.
I hope that helps
Thank you very much for the reply!!
Im pretty sure I will end up buying the E600... I am just a little worried about battery life.
Also, what about performance? My E62 was terribly slow, it took like 7 seconds to open a message (sms), but I eventually got used to it... and such "details", menu navigation was laggy and slow. It always been this way...
Is there any noticeable difference in between the E600, S620, S621?
i cant stick with a rom for more than 2 or 3 days..without getting annoyed with it....am i a jaded rom junkie or is windows just not cuttin it
same here
i actually just flashed back to stock because it's so snappy. within 24 hours i'll probably be on the latest mightyrom 2.1 build again.
I know what you mean ! WM just doesn't seem that good anymore, it's like it stalled at the release of WM6.
I have started to think that this may very well be the last WM (or for that matter Microsoft) product I have anything to do with. Slowly all of my PCs have moved over to Linux and I feel my phone's going to go that way too.
WM7 better be a revolution and not just playing catch up or, in my opinion, WM will die !
Same here on the Microsoft front: although I'd never be seen dead with an iPhone, my brother's 'Hero' Android phone is very tasty and some of the newer Android handsets are powerful little beasties
My PC's used to run Windows but now have Ubuntu quite happily running on them - I can even sync my phone quite happily with SynCE so who needs Windows even if you have a Windows mobile phone?
hero is a nice device...but cant compare with that tiny screen...come to think of it...android on the tp2 screen is prob the only advatage to windows mobile....idnnoo i dnt wanna beat this topic to death tho....
the only rom that suits me for day to day use is josskoss 1.5...and i say that after probably trying ever single rom on this site...and some htcpedia...i am really begining to think im just spoiled by options ha
A dear friend of mine call me a "flashing whore"
But apart from the joke, it is a pleasure to flash every new ROM out!
Is part of maintaining our devices up to date with much better ROM´s than the original ones!
Thanks to XDA and Chefs & Devs is that I remain with WM, if XDA wouldn´t exist WM have died a loong time ago
orb3000
Very true! I must agree...started with the wing..then tilt then g1 and now tp2...I can't imagine how anyone could have ever used the wing as is out of the box..
Honestly, when you reach the point where you spend more time flashing ROM's than actually using your device, I think it's time for one of two things. Either get a Windows phone less flasheable (i.e, most non-HTC models), or move to a different mobile OS.
Lol, I love a fresh flash, and am a bit of a flashing addict myself. I get some pretty bad flashing withdrawl if I'm traveling and can't flash I also have to agree with Orb3000; XDA & its developers are the only things which keep me with Windows Mobile
Im done guys with Wm my Hd2 is up for sale no update for hardware that can run Wp7 they can have wp7 my hd2 is up for sale and i just picked up my new Nexus one just flashed the new HTC Desire Rom running at 1.3GHZ Im happy Hello Android mabey next time WM mabey next time
Maybe next time, punctuation. Maybe next time...
Personally, I'm in the 'Buy a phone for what it can do now, not what I hope it might be able to do in the future' school of thought.
Sure, no WP7 is a disappointment, but if you own an HD2 (as I did for a while), you got what was being promised. For me, it was the lack of a keyboard that made me get a TP2, but the HD2 is still one helluva phone.
No announcement has been made. I'm gonna laugh if the HD2 ends up getting an update.
bye bye cry baby, i swear you guys crack me up. how can you be upset when you bought the phone without anything being announced if you bought it because YOU THOUGHT it was getting an update thats your own fault, ms didnt tell you ANYTHING. and the hd2 is gonna have wp7s soon enough, maybe not officially but who cares, custom roms>>>>>>official roms
I would be glad to take your HTC HD2 off your hands
The forum would be way better without such threads. But on the flip side it's funny to see how stupid some people are (sorry but it's the truth)
RAMMANN said:
The forum would be way better without such threads. But on the flip side it's funny to see how stupid some people are (sorry but it's the truth)
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Indeed. Im mad they are not releasing Iphone OS to my HD2.
(eventually the chefs will be making a version for the HD2, so come on.)
kel16harris said:
bye bye cry baby, i swear you guys crack me up. how can you be upset when you bought the phone without anything being announced if you bought it because YOU THOUGHT it was getting an update thats your own fault, ms didnt tell you ANYTHING. and the hd2 is gonna have wp7s soon enough, maybe not officially but who cares, custom roms>>>>>>official roms
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It's not so much the lack of an upgrade that's the problem, it's the combination of that plus WP7 being incompatible with Windows Mobile software. That's one thing nobody was predicting a few months ago, and it means that there is no longer any reason for a commercial software company to continue working on any Windows Mobile project - see, for example, Adobe's decision to scrap FlashPlayer on WinMo.
To say "your phone won't get an OS upgrade" is one thing, but to say "your phone won't get an upgrade, and incidentally we also neglected to mention that your phone's current OS would cease to be a viable platform for commercial software about three months after you buy it" is something else.
And it is not by any means certain that there will be custom ROMs based on WP7.
leeuwtjevanjuda said:
Indeed. Im mad they are not releasing Iphone OS to my HD2.
(eventually the chefs will be making a version for the HD2, so come on.)
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I doubt it. The reason chefs have been able to make WM6.5 for older devices is because it is still based off of the same kernel as 5.0-6.1. If you are familiar with cooking ROMs for older devices, you would realize that we are still using 6.0 drivers on all of these 6.5 ROMs. Once the kernel changes, however, those drivers will most-likely be useless.
And yeah, buying the HD2 probably wasn't the best idea.
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I doubt it. The reason chefs have been able to make WM6.5 for older devices is because it is still based off of the same kernel as 5.0-6.1. If you are familiar with cooking ROMs for older devices, you would realize that we are still using 6.0 drivers on all of these 6.5 ROMs. Once the kernel changes, however, those drivers will most-likely be useless.
And yeah, buying the HD2 probably wasn't the best idea.
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It's also possible to run 6.5 on the Himalaya, which is originally based on PPC 2003 = different wince kernel.
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It's also possible to run 6.5 on the Himalaya, which is originally based on PPC 2003 = different wince kernel.
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But the Himalaya still got WM5, so that still means it got WinCE 5.2 kernel one way or another. Once it got a 5.2 kernel, it can run anything from WM5 all the way up to WM6.5.x
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
But the Himalaya still got WM5, so that still means it got WinCE 5.2 kernel one way or another. Once it got a 5.2 kernel, it can run anything from WM5 all the way up to WM6.5.x
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alright that finally explains it. Didn't know they got an official WM5 release.
The HTC HD2 is an impressive device even without WP7 As for upgrading it, there will be a debate but, they will chose to release a HD3 instead. Feel free to sign the petition though,lol http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7/
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5475&tag=content;col1
I'm quite on the contrary
Ironically a handful of days ago I made similar decision. Except for that I was really, really pissed off by Android and decided to switch back to WinMo. So I got a HD2.
Now I'm (again) having:
- The capability to play almost every media format on my phone
- *REAL* GPS navigation suites
- Serious, polished, and visually attractive games, by lots
- Proper tool to manage my personal (2 of them) and business mail accounts, with attachment, reply record and everything
- Excellent applications to read *AND EDIT* Word and Excel files. It's vital to have this as a translator who frequently has to work on-the-go.
- PDB, PRC, CHM, LIT, TXT, RTF, DOC, DOCX, HTML, PDF in short, whatever document format I may need to read. And the tools to do this are generally extremely polished
- The freedom of setting the phone on true mute mode once and for all, unlike on certain idiot OS where you set the thing on mute, all system notifications get silenced, while everything else from media player to games continue to sing how ever loud it likes
And what I no long have:
- Don't have to pick from a thousand not so different but frequently buggy cooked ROMs
- Don't have to flash my phone like once per week to keep up with new version of cooked ROM franchise
- Don't have to comb through 10K apps, filter 90% of them (crapware swarm), and pray "God give me some actually useful app please, amen"
Anyway, I'm not sure why so many people chanting around "Android is much, much by the outdated WinMo". I believe that the value of a smartphone is reflected by what it can achieve. WinMo so far is still much better than Android on satisfying my professional and entertainment needs. Yep its UI is no match for Android's (at least less colorful). But I can't care less about that. Beautiful or not, get the job done first.
As to WP7 update. Well, I'm having great faith on XDA. Even if Microsoft and HTC decide to screw HD2 owners big time, chances are pretty good the magnificent young men (and women) here can make an unofficial update happen. It doesn't really matter for me if this is not happening. Right now I'm having everything I need already, and I'm happy. WP7 is only a plus.
it's so true ....
chassit said:
Ironically a handful of days ago I made similar decision. Except for that I was really, really pissed off by Android and decided to switch back to WinMo. So I got a HD2.
Now I'm (again) having:
- The capability to play almost every media format on my phone
- *REAL* GPS navigation suites
- Serious, polished, and visually attractive games, by lots
- Proper tool to manage my personal (2 of them) and business mail accounts, with attachment, reply record and everything
- Excellent applications to read *AND EDIT* Word and Excel files. It's vital to have this as a translator who frequently has to work on-the-go.
- PDB, PRC, CHM, LIT, TXT, RTF, DOC, DOCX, HTML, PDF in short, whatever document format I may need to read. And the tools to do this are generally extremely polished
- The freedom of setting the phone on true mute mode once and for all, unlike on certain idiot OS where you set the thing on mute, all system notifications get silenced, while everything else from media player to games continue to sing how ever loud it likes
And what I no long have:
- Don't have to pick from a thousand not so different but frequently buggy cooked ROMs
- Don't have to flash my phone like once per week to keep up with new version of cooked ROM franchise
- Don't have to comb through 10K apps, filter 90% of them (crapware swarm), and pray "God give me some actually useful app please, amen"
Anyway, I'm not sure why so many people chanting around "Android is much, much by the outdated WinMo". I believe that the value of a smartphone is reflected by what it can achieve. WinMo so far is still much better than Android on satisfying my professional and entertainment needs. Yep its UI is no match for Android's (at least less colorful). But I can't care less about that. Beautiful or not, get the job done first.
As to WP7 update. Well, I'm having great faith on XDA. Even if Microsoft and HTC decide to screw HD2 owners big time, chances are pretty good the magnificent young men (and women) here can make an unofficial update happen. It doesn't really matter for me if this is not happening. Right now I'm having everything I need already, and I'm happy. WP7 is only a plus.
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+1
That’s what comes to my mind when I think Windows Mobile vs. Android
Actually I really don't care if Windows Phone 7 doesn’t get an "official" release for HD2.... Its current state is a "Solid Windows Mobile 6.5 PocketPC" which is exactly what was intended for it to be.
enjoy your little crappy java machine LOL that'll show em.
nucentury08 said:
Im done guys with Wm my Hd2 is up for sale no update for hardware that can run Wp7 they can have wp7 my hd2 is up for sale and i just picked up my new Nexus one just flashed the new HTC Desire Rom running at 1.3GHZ Im happy Hello Android mabey next time WM mabey next time
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"mabey" go to school and learn to spell next time? Just as a suggestion..
For Sale
My Xperia X1 is for sale as I have found out that it won't run Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition. Im also going to buy a Nexus One as it has a better chance of running Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition first! LOL
leba837 said:
My Xperia X1 is for sale as I have found out that it won't run Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition. Im also going to buy a Nexus One as it has a better chance of running Windows Mobile Phone 8.1 Service Pack 3 Turbo Edition first! LOL
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I PM'd you with my offer