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Does anybody have an idea if this is a xda
http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/...e_type=product_detail&script_name=product.cgi
HP/XDA
Its an XDA like device but from HP.
iPAQ and XDA are model names from their respective manufacturers.
Hope this helps
I think that h6300 is much much better than XDA II and of course there is no comparison between XDA and the h6300, it has WiFi, BT Manager from Widcomm, Keyboard, 3600mAh optional battery and it is much mych cheaper that XDA II which all not available in XDA II...
Best regards,,,
yes. I love this pda phone. HP is the best pocket pc ever. I will buy this pda phone. Thanks for your mention. HP ALWAYS PROVIDE GREAT SUPPORT. THE BEST COMPANY THAT WE TRUST.
You must be joking, hp renowned for its lack of support, no wm2003se for it's existing ipaq range ( paq 5550) poor quality hardware etc.
I personally wouldnt buy hp kit ever, it's great kit while it's working, but wait till something goes wrong!!!!
My company supplies IT hardware, we have no end of problems with hp, you should see their laptop warrantey requirements.
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I think that h6300 is much much better than XDA II and of course there is no comparison between XDA and the h6300, it has WiFi, BT Manager from Widcomm, Keyboard, 3600mAh optional battery and it is much mych cheaper that XDA II which all not available in XDA II...
Best regards,,,
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Battery, bluetooth(stack) and Wifi there good, BUT memory, speed wise and looks I like MDA2/XDA2 (I just dont like antenna specially holding it on landscape mode).. I guess its using OMAP (TI) 200MHZ I am not sure how to compare but memory(RAM/ROM) 64Megs is kinda small. But well wait how this two compare its other side by side. Keyboard its kind of ugly and bulky to carry with you all the time. If I want keyboard I'll wait for MDA III.. Just my opinion.
If you do buy the HP, you'll be really suprised at how slow it is,
That processor just isnt fast enough for most apps nowdays, and if you turn on wifi, it just turns into a slug!,
Stick with you XDA2's at the moment, i dont think there is an upcomming better device at the moment
Actually ....
.... although not the blazing speed of a 400Mhz XScale, the 200 Mhz TI actually held it's own, and never felt discomfortingly slow, and actually quite good in some areas (in my pre-prod sample).
My main reasons for switching from my XDA II to the 6300 will be size and autonomy ... the 200 Mhz CPU made that the battery simply lasted and lasted and lasted .... HP, imho, made a sensible trade-off between speed and autonomy.
Thanks. I will try to check on more information before I decide to it it or not. Thanks you guys!
Wiz,
What was the refresh speed like once you had wifi running?, this is where it will tax the processor and my biggest annoyance
I find the speed of my XDA2 adequate rather than blazing, we probably have different needs on device speed, but i would have rather seen 256meg inbuilt memory and the new 624mhz processor in the ipaq 6315
I'm not too worried about battery life as i am happy to carry a spare battery in my pocket as i do with my XDA2, i would much rather have speed and lots of memory than a long battery life
I suppose once it gets released and users start posting about the HP then we will see if most people are happy with it!
HP quality and support
I had 5 different iPAQs during last several years. From 3650 to 5550...
What I can say... In my case support was for 10 out of 10, but quality was 1 out of 10. HP EXCHANGED 4 times my 5550!!!!! I think so it is good example of service/quality...
About HP6315 - as long as we will be able to use BT stack from HP6315 on our I-Mate - I do not think there will be better handheld PPC Phone Edition on the market. For sure I am not mentioning for AWAITING for Windows Mobile Second Edition…
That was my brick in this discussion
The HP simply delivers what the masses want most: Cheapness, some simple extra functionality, and battery life. General users don't much care about speed, as they aren't going to add much to it nor ask much of it. Most PPC-PE users never load anything on it more than what is included--statistical fact.
We here are an anomaly--power users who demand the most of their devices. Most of us wouldn't settle for the limitations of the HP, but we need to realize that most of the general public considers the XDA II very limited. Simply because they'd never use its great capabilities, but would be annoyed at the shorter battery life and lack of things like voice dialing from BT headsets.
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The HP simply delivers what the masses want most: Cheapness, some simple extra functionality, and battery life. General users don't much care about speed, as they aren't going to add much to it nor ask much of it. Most PPC-PE users never load anything on it more than what is included--statistical fact.
We here are an anomaly--power users who demand the most of their devices. Most of us wouldn't settle for the limitations of the HP, but we need to realize that most of the general public considers the XDA II very limited. Simply because they'd never use its great capabilities, but would be annoyed at the shorter battery life and lack of things like voice dialing from BT headsets.
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Check the CPU of HP. It's Texas Instrument and not Intel based. It is not that I am loyal to Intel but I used several HP and Compaq Pocket PCs before that were cheaper because the CPU is not Intel. (Hitachi and Samsung CPU)
The problem with non Intel Pocket PCs' was compatibility with most softwares. Most of the softwares for PPCs' were optimized for Intel based.
So I preferred the XDAII because of the Intel processor and it is "Sexier" than the HP design and I don't like Stub Antennaes.
I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
It's a great device, you won't make a mistake It has Intel PXA263 400mhz processor (This is the only thing i don't like in blueangel. It is not so fast. If you plan to play 3d games it is not very good for this. But you can easily overclock it with pocket master to 530mhz. With this frequency it handles everything without Snow Rally - there's a little lag and you can't play Playstation 1 games even if you overclock it to 590. I got 21-23fps in Tony Hawk Pro Skater with @530mhz and Frameskip - 2), 128 ram (This is great! With so much ram you don't need real close button.But there are no applications that wants more than 32 ram, so this is not a big advantage), Big screen and the best design for games(The screen is perfect. It wouldn't be bad if there was VGA screen but QVGA is not so bad either. In web browsing the qvga resolution is a big dissadvantage. You have to scrool a lot. But now there are browsers now that supports Zoom function.With it the browsing is good even on qvga device. When Opera 9.5 comes out it will rock And the design is great for games. It's like joystick when you handle it in landscape position and there are many buttons), 64mb Flash Storage(It's not much but you don't need more. There are SD Cards for that), SD/MMC expansion slot( The bad thing here is that it doesn't support SDHC, there are no drivers for that and there won't be in future ), CIF camera (It is really badd. The image quality is similar. If you try to record video it lags. I don't know why :/ It does it wven in the lowest quality), WiFi( No problems here), Bluetooth (No problems here either), IrDA( It can't be used as a remote controller because the irda range is around 3 meters)
And finally the PocketPC comes with WM2003. You can install WM6.1 but I recommend you to wait for explode's WM6.1. His roms are the best With the new windows the pocket becmoes really fast and stable. That's all, it's a great device
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I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
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Nice choice. I recently picked up a hermes and while it is very nice, there are some things I miss from the Angel.
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Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
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I don't quite understand this question. If you are asking if it was sold under the name of Blue Angel, no. Blue Angel is the HTC internal name for the phone. It was never sold by HTC directly, but to the various cell carriers who rebadged it with their own plastics and ROM/applications.
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also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
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Pros:
Good CPU speed (the keiser runs at the same speed, 400 mhz)
The CPU has been around for a while, so 3rd party apps that are designed for the CPU work well.
Good physical size on the screen
Lots of storage and program memory when the extended ROM is resized/removed.
Cons:
Since it is an older platform, any MW version after 2003 is a hack. The drivers are generally ported from other phones and there are various bugs that will probably never be fixed due to a lack of hardware drivers. Everything does work, there are just various quirks.
Radio range (bluetooth, wifi, etc) are not the best. Heck, they often tend to be down right crappy.
Unless someone is able to write and release a SDHC driver for the card slot, it will never support SDHC cards, which will limit the phone to 4 gig cards. 2 gig is the official spec for SD, but there are a few 4 gig non-SDHC cards out there.
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I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
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I still like mine and plan on passing it to my wife or using it for testing and development if she doesn't want it.
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cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
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I would. MW6 is a huge improvement over 2003 and 5. The latest ROM builds out there work very well, if not 99% perfectly, and are fast.
In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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I second that! Just ditched my Hermes for my old trusty Blue Angel, which blows the pants off it! I forgot how much I loved the 3.5 inch screen!
Rookie as well with the Blue Angel
I am getting started with the Blue angel as well (O2 Xda IIs)
I like it a lot this will probably become my best buddy during my travels
I got a couple of complementary questions about it.
I intend to use it for business purposes, mainly Internet through
Wifi and GPRS, pdf and offices documents.
I saw on this forum that you advise to change from WM 2003SE to Windows Mobile 6 (the last published by Microsoft)
-My question is: This PDA is already a bit old now, is it going to work smoothly wit the very last OS, which is designed for more recent PDAs (i.e which should be more efficient).
I mainly want to use it for Internet, wich browser do you recommend ?
Internet explorer? Opera Mobile? Opera Mini? other browser?
By the way what is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
you should go with opera mobile, as it is better suited for pda's. opera mini is suited for java based mobile phones.
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Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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man i wish they would do that, or release a device with the same glorious screen but with contemporary features, all in all the blu angel is still a killer device 4 years on.
Absolutely right. I had been using the subj for 4 years in nearly extremal conditions, uprading and downgrading firmware dozen times. But, unfortunately it died as hero. Really great gadget, legend of HTC platform challenging ages.
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Well with WM 6.1 it does everything I need and thats for sure I have my pick of devices and always come back to this one - and the 11i which is just about as good
I cant think of a time I have been upset with what it does or doesn't do. I intend keep one for as long as it will run....
John P
Hi Chainfire,
Thank you for the clarification in the last thread on the different Qualcomm processor variants.
Admittedly I am still a little dubious about your specs because I'm sure I saw a datasheet for the 7200a that stated it was 90nm - however I know that you have been in this game for while (ROMs et al) so I will accept them and verify them when I get a moment)
I also agree that the TP2 did feel snappier than the TP1.
However your argument concerning the TP being a repackaged Tytn2 is a very weak one for the reasons you specified and many others.
The TP is clearly a different class of device in comparison to the Tytn 2 and definitely doesn't feel repackaged.
Also the phones have not simply been repackaged over the last few years, I've had most of them with considerable improvements in each until we reached the Qualcomm era pre snapdragon...
Also I'm not a fan for the 7200 series qualcomm processors for all types of video related reasons.
The snapdragon (also qualcomm) demonstrates innovation and shows promise as well as potential.
On another tangent I'm really loving the snapdragon capabilities they've demonstrated runing android in the netbook market at the moment too (720p hardware encoding and decoding according another engadget and gizmodo.
As usual - Time will tell - it never lies!
Question - Doesn't anyone else feel a little betrayed at the rate of hardware/software innovation in WM products at the moment?
I surely can't be the only one.
I've used these devices for ages and after seeing things like the Palm Pre and IPhone I feel a little frustrated.
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Hi Chainfire,
Thank you for the clarification in the last thread on the different Qualcomm processor variants.
Admittedly I am still a little dubious about your specs because I'm sure I saw a datasheet for the 7200a that stated it was 90nm - however I know that you have been in this game for while (ROMs et al) so I will accept them and verify them when I get a moment)
I also agree that the TP2 did feel snappier than the TP1.
However your argument concerning the TP being a repackaged Tytn2 is a very weak one for the reasons you specified and many others.
The TP is clearly a different class of device in comparison to the Tytn 2 and definitely doesn't feel repackaged.
Also the phones have not simply been repackaged over the last few years, I've had most of them with considerable improvements in each until we reached the Qualcomm era pre snapdragon...
Also I'm not a fan for the 7200 series qualcomm processors for all types of video related reasons.
The snapdragon (also qualcomm) demonstrates innovation and shows promise as well as potential.
On another tangent I'm really loving the snapdragon capabilities they've demonstrated runing android in the netbook market at the moment too (720p hardware encoding and decoding according another engadget and gizmodo.
As usual - Time will tell - it never lies!
Question - Doesn't anyone else feel a little betrayed at the rate of hardware/software innovation in WM products at the moment?
I surely can't be the only one.
I've used these devices for ages and after seeing things like the Palm Pre and IPhone I feel a little frustrated.
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Why has this been brough back to life? DaveShaw closed the last thread, can't you respect that and leave it for a bit?
No clearly I can't.
While the TP2 isn't that bad a device - if all else fails I will probably end up with one - There is an underlying issue here that needs to be discussed and addressed that isn't only applicable to the Touch Pro 2.
And further more I'm not offending anyone I'm encouraging discussion that needs to be encouraged.
I've been here since 2004 and been using these devices before 2004 and am seriously wondering what's happening with WM in the industry lately.
- WM7 promised the world but has yet to see the light of day.
- We still don't have properly implemented VGA recording in our devices
- Rich application experience is only available through 3rd party programs and pluggins when it should be available at the OS level.
- Why on earth do some programmers know how to manipulate the hardware at OS level better than Microsoft, the people that make the OS (Example Point UI)
Seriously what is going on here?
Have you seen the Palm Pre?
Have you seen the Iphone?
Have you seen Android Cupcake?
What do we have?
Microsoft has given us a half a hearted attempt at an OS refresh (6.5) and embarassingly all our rich app experiences are provided by third parties.
Why couldn't HTC release Rhodium level hardware with Android?
As for processor specs:
From the MSM7200A datasheet that I "absolutely don't have":
7200: 90 nm CMOS (15 x 15 x 1.4 mm)
7200A: 65 nm CMOS (15 x 15 x 1.4 mm)
Some more interesting changes in non-A vs A are that the A has 24bpp display support for EBI2, and the memory is clocked at 166mhz instead of 128mhz (aside from the obvious 528mhz (533 officially) addition) and also uses a different GPS core. I assume all the latter is also in the 7201A but I cannot verify that, so...
As to the repackaging thing, perhaps you misunderstood me. I do not feel like the TP is a repackaged TyTN II, nor do I really feel the TP2 is a repackaged TP. But, if you say the latter you should also say the former - the thread starter only did the latter. Even if for one you may feel instinctively that it isn't repackaged and for the other you do, it's either both or neither, from my viewpoint.
I agree there have been many improvements, but most of them were not in the 'bare' hardware. And that was the discussion point of the thread starter, who stated in one of his posts that we were not talking about software. Obviously, casing, screens, etc have improvements as well as the software.
Again, I love the TP2. The first time I played with one was love at first sight.
As for video, the 7200 series is more than capable - just not supported very well. With fully optimized drivers and software, video playback should be much better than it is right now. Its the old trick of unleashing a little bit more potential with every device release to get people to upgrade. Sound business model, but obviously us techs frown at it.
As for snapdragon, I agree it has got awesome capabilities, but there are some caveats (note that I already played with snapdragon devices and it felt really fast to me... much faster than TP2).
Caveat #1: How will it stack up versus the Tegra? I've also seen Tegra (test) devices in action up close (no touching, though, and it was bigger than my pocket) and it did seem extremely awesome.
Caveat #2: It's still Qualcomm. While HTC is partially to blame for the whole mess the past few years, so is Qualcomm. Both of these companies continuously let us down performance-wise. Will the old dogs learn new tricks? Will major corporations ever actually care about their customers? Will they ever deliver what they promise? We are talking about HTC and Qualcomm here, and due to past experience I wouldn't put the chances of that very high.
Of course, Microsoft also has a big role to play in optimizing WM. It's a dog. But it's improving... I do have high hopes for WM7.
Do I feel betrayed? I don't think that's the correct word, but yes, I am disappointed (even if I do love the TP2 ). I think over time things will get better though. WM being the slow dog that it is, with the latest hardware and some effort it should still be technically possible to top iPhone performance by a large margin.
I can easily understand your frustration though. I am myself heavily invested in WM (my livelyhood actually depends on it) so I am also frustrated. It can be much better!
Hi Chainfire,
Oh - I see... Got you.
So the A supports higher bit resolution displays and has faster memory!
Ok I stand corrected about the MSM7200 series processors.
Somehow I'm not surprised the hardware is capable of good Video - I just haven't experienced it.. yet.. - But I also put that down to poor colaboration (possibly deliberately) on MS, HTC and Qualcomms part)
I also have been wondering about the Tegra but I see it taking ages to come to market based on NVidia's PDA GPU efforts before which eventually materialised in Dells axim x51v (PDA) initially and then imates 6150(Phone) ages after anouncement.
Obviously this could change.
I agree the Tegra is a worthy force to be reckoned with if implemented correctly - I unfortunately have only seen working examples of the Tegra on Youtube but what I have seen has been very very impressive GUI wise.
The Snapdragon looks kinda crazy too with its 1.3ghz potential when its already flying at 1ghz on the TG01 and the whole netbook angle/implementation of snapdragon.
I guess we'll have to wait and see what WM7 has to offer although I imagine it's must be a little difficult for you at the mo with the whole Android and apple app store gaining ground and making their mark in industry.
Anyhow I wish you good luck with your WM based business projects/ventures.
Maybe tp2 use msm7201A http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522460
That would be interesting, it is listed as 7200A everywhere on the net. But as some people already have one, perhaps they should check the about screen?
Mine still not in...
EDIT: Checked FCC pics, that one indeed seems to have 7201A. Wonder if the EU version will also have this or have 7200A. We'll know soon enough I guess!
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That would be interesting, it is listed as 7200A everywhere on the net. But as some people already have one, perhaps they should check the about screen?
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UK version 7200A-528MHz, according the the About screen.
Hmm, that makes it likely the US versions will be MSM7201A and the rest of the world will get MSM7200A... Interesting!
out of interest im in uk and mine has the 7200A...
Hi,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I currently have a 16GB Omnia which to be honest I have been quite happy with. It's only my second Windows Mobile Phone and I upgraded from the the Original HTC Touch. When I got the Omnia I was more than happy with both the quality of the music playback (through headphones) and the DIVX/XVID support as I consider them to be second to none, really great quality. I always hated the hiss of the orignal Touch when playing MP3's and the Omnia is pretty close to a standalone MP3 player.
There were however a few things that pissed me off over the Omnia. One was the odd screen resolution which made certain programs either not run at all or display in a distorted fashion. Then there was lack of a stylus (unless you attached it on the side) which I really missed as I think it is still needed in various programs. The screen res was not great or responsive either. Biggest thing I missed was a D-Pad needed to play so many games etc..
Now I had set my hopes on actually jumping ship and getting an Iphone. I'd spent hours looking on Youtube at the apps and thought some of them were fantastic. I liked the idea that all apps should work on the phone without all the tweaking that is often needed on Windows Mobile. However when I saw the price announced yesterday as much as I want it, it is incredibly expensive and now out of my league.
Now I'm thinking of the Touch Pro 2. It seems to have great reviews so far. I will mainly be using it for Media (MP3's and playing Xvid TV/DVD Rips) and surfing the internet. Also I need Isilo ebook reader and Comic Reader Mobi to work out of the box. Do you think the Touch Pro 2 is a big enough jump from the Omnia in terms of compatibility and performance or will it still have lots of incompatibility problems. Are you missing lack of a D-pad? One thing I wanted to ask is can you play many games that previously needed a D-pad by using the pull out keyboard and re-assigining keys - is that a workaround?
Any advice would be really appreciated.
I was Onmia i900 16GB Unlocked user before. In my opinion, if you don't need a slideout keyboard and a bigger screen like me. Your Omnia is no different than TP2. Your omnia can do everything TP2 can do :> except, those i mentioned earlier and of course if you have extra bucks to spend :>
I will be still happy with my omnia if it has the slideout keyboard and a bigger screen. Otherwise I won't get the TP2 :>
Too bad, I checked out the future omnia successor I9000 or HD still dont have slideout keyboard. that is why i switch to TP2.
like it was said previously very different form factor. tp2 is a true all rounder and you wont have any problems watching xvid/avi videos as you can install tcpmp or coreplayer(corecodec). you will not experience any incompatibility issues as the tp2 is complete and versatile. also the future of rom dev on this device will be exciting and wm6.5 and hopefully wm7 will offer so much more. comparing an omnia to tp2 isn't really the best thing to do mate just need to ask yourself what do you want from your phone! if you want a keypad and bigger more vibrant screen then tp2 is your boy but if you prefer the form factor of the omnia then consider a td2. the list of software available for windows mobile is impressive and they will all be compatible with tp2. basically you need to have a play with the tp2 and decide from there. not much we can say to influence what you decide as i may think tp2 is better and others may disagree. this may actually cause you more confusion than help.
"Your Omnia is no different than TP2. Your omnia can do everything TP2 can do"
Radiowc, I know the Omnia is already a capable phone. But is the Touch pro not faster and more responsive?
shingers5
I've enjoyed reading through yor posts. When you mentioned the other day you were walking through Liverpool with the device I was going to track you down to have a look as I work in town. I hear what you are saying about the form factor and to be honest I do like the Omnia/Touch Diamond styling but with my big hands I may benefit from a hardware keyboard. What also attracts me to a hardware keyboard is the fact that virtually all Windows mobile phones are coming out with either no Dpad or a crappy one like on my Omnia. As I asked earlier is it possible for the keyboard to compensate for the lack of D-Pad/hard keys to play games/emulators etc... I have Coreplayer/TCPMP on the Omnia and it's great but had heard of the HD having problems with TCPMP so I thought this may be the same with Touch Pro 2. Also heard horror stories on Touch HD forum of choppy playback etc playing back videos. Now I won't be playing anything back other than 700 or 350mb avi files (mainly xvid) that are DVD or TV Rips I download, nothing high definition. Do you think I'll have a problem?
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"Your Omnia is no different than TP2. Your omnia can do everything TP2 can do"
Radiowc, I know the Omnia is already a capable phone. But is the Touch pro not faster and more responsive?
Well... I will say yes... but not so obvious... like super fast :> of course with the extra internal memory ... now you don't have to worry about it will ran out of memory so fast like i used to be.. looking all over samsung omnia forum on how to move the internal program to My Storage folder like other omnia's user do :>
Good Luck :>
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meddleuk said:
"Your Omnia is no different than TP2. Your omnia can do everything TP2 can do"
Radiowc, I know the Omnia is already a capable phone. But is the Touch pro not faster and more responsive?
shingers5
I've enjoyed reading through yor posts. When you mentioned the other day you were walking through Liverpool with the device I was going to track you down to have a look as I work in town. I hear what you are saying about the form factor and to be honest I do like the Omnia/Touch Diamond styling but with my big hands I may benefit from a hardware keyboard. What also attracts me to a hardware keyboard is the fact that virtually all Windows mobile phones are coming out with either no Dpad or a crappy one like on my Omnia. As I asked earlier is it possible for the keyboard to compensate for the lack of D-Pad/hard keys to play games/emulators etc... I have Coreplayer/TCPMP on the Omnia and it's great but had heard of the HD having problems with TCPMP so I thought this may be the same with Touch Pro 2. Also heard horror stories on Touch HD forum of choppy playback etc playing back videos. Now I won't be playing anything back other than 700 or 350mb avi files (mainly xvid) that are DVD or TV Rips I download, nothing high definition. Do you think I'll have a problem?
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corecodec coreplayer though similar to tcpmp player is far better. playback is amazing and i managed to get hold of an already reg version for free on here. crecodec version has a facelift and youtube player integrated withing it. works very well with tp2. haven't used the tcpmp player on it. don't really think kepad can compensate for d-pad but to be honest i dont think you will miss it. other guys who felt the same as you have prev posted that they do not miss the d-pad at all. video playback on tp2 is even better than my x1 using coreplayer. clearer smoother playback. seriously you will not be disappointed
edit: with our big hands you will defo find the tp2 to your liking.............my reason for getting rid of my omnia was that the touch input was not the best, scrolling was very bad and that screen rotation was too moody. i did however cunstomise it with tf2d at the time and liked it a bit more. tp2 is a defo an upgrade in performance and usability from omnia.
I switched from an Omnia which I've used for 7 months I think, and I've never been more happy with my TP2...
If it were a question between the Omnia HD and TP2... then it might be a hard choice. Even though i liked the first Omnia... The TP2 is a very different device.
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Check out my in-depth review of HTC's Touch Pro2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjS...e=channel_page
Go for the brilliant TP2 along with the great XDA support!
I have to admit after switching from the Touch to the Omnia I've missed the support from this site. Modaco was the only place I could check out for rom development so it would feel nice to have a HTC back in my hand.
From what I have heard the Video playback seems to be ok for what I'm looking for. Does anyone have an opinion on the quality of the music playback through wired headphones. As I mentioned the original touch had an annoying hiss during playback that was very noticible during quiet or acoustic pieces of music. At the time I did a little research and lots of people told me the problem was due to a cheap sound chip used in HTC devices at the time including the Elf and the Kasier. When I moved to the Omnia the sound was so much better, Ipod quality, in fact someone told me that Samsung made the sound chips for Apple.
How does the Touch Pro 2 compare, any issues. Or a direct comparison to the Omnia. The Omnia playback is excellent regardless of the software (Kinoma/Pocket Player/Coreplayer).
Thanks for your advice guys. I've taken the plunge. Just ordered TP2 from MobilesPhoneDirect on T-Mobile Combi 30+ Web & Walk 18months at £34 a month. Great deal!! Just hope it comes tomorrow as they told me they are waiting for a courier to deliver new stock this afternoon.
I'm really excited and it will be great to back here on XDA with you guys!!
I don't know what I'm gonna do... After giving my TP to my daughter, I got an I900 Omnia for myself for use on ATT. Don't miss the 3G, but I did miss the keyboard at times, especially since to most observers the omnia was "just a phone". Now, the TP, and most importantly the Tilt, was a "mini-computer" (Impressive!!). So the tilting screen on the TP2 is enticing. But the TP2 not having a scroll-wheel, or even a d-pad, or something like that, is holding me off, cuz I did miss that on the Omnia, even though I lived w/o it.
I'm afraid the buttons are disappearing, never to return...
i am an xperia owner (soon to be ex-) and i was able to play with a friend's rhodium (tmobile branded) and I played the same video file on coreplayer that I usually benchmark on my xperia and got benchmarks on the rhodium. Ever since I have had my xperia this same video file has given me 81% whereas the rhodium gives 111% result from the coreplayer benchmark. Aren't they both running the same chipset? is it a case of better driver implementation? I am looking to get the rhodium but I don't to pay the more money for something that uses the same tech, but bigger screen etc. Any help would be appreciated.
No, it doesn't use the same chipset. One uses the MS7201A (XPERIA) and the other uses the MSM7200A. According to another thread somewherein the forums, this means that they are both 65nm process chips (due to the "A" in the name). But the 7201 implemented some workarounds due to the legal controversy between Qualcomm and Broadcom. The workarounds implemented some performance issues. Now that the legal trouble as been settled between those two companies, they are using the 7200 which does not have the performance issues of the 7201 (though the driver issues is a whole other story).
Or at least that's what I got from that thread when I read it a while ago.
I went from xperia to touch pro 2. yes, there is a performance difference, with the tp2 being faster and smoother. That being said- I miss my xperia greatly. The whole Sony Ericsson style was to die for, especially with the optical pad, panels (in particular the xperience one). In fact, I wouldnt mind switching back to the xperia.
What video are you using to benchmark? just curious
I think xperia's processor is not running on its full speed because of heat and battery time
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What video are you using to benchmark? just curious
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Im using an episode of terminator Sarah Connor chronicles 624x352 resolution 140kbps, 23fps. Ive used this file in many different roms and consistently got 81-84% in coreplayer. Why do PDAdb and other sites and posts on XDA show the X1 as having the 7200?? Thanks for all the replies.