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Have placed my order with O2 yesterday. £179.00 and 16.50 per month 12 months. I'm sure I'm doing the right thing. Can anyone guide me in the right direction to a BT TomTom package that has all the right leads and mounts for the car. Going around in circles so many web sites. Great work people for such an informative website. Has proved valuable in making my decision to purchase.
Personally I would wait until they fix the bugs!! I have now found well over 50, many serious. Soft resets are at best a daily occurance since the PPC OS seems to have been written in such a way that one badly behaved app can take out the whole OS. Its like working with windows 3.1 again! Windows Mobile does not multitask properly - looks like some kind of windows 3.1ish co-operative multitasking. My Psion 5 with its 32MHz processor used to multitask better.
Everything works _sometimes_ and it usually stops working just when you need it to work most. Depends how much of the devices functionality you expect to be able to use.
It has the potential to be a top device if only the software was not so [email protected] They have a monopoly though cause there aint ought else like it on the market.
HTC should be ashamed of themselves...
Nigel
XDA Price
Hello again
Where did you find the XDA for that price, the main o2 website has it at 249.99 with min monthly payment at 19.00 ??
http://shop.o2.co.uk/shop/handset/O2/XDAIIs
Nigel
Where I'm getting it.
O2 online. www.o2.co.uk/business/great deals then xda2s 179.00 + vat
Hmm, I should have hunted around a bit more before buying. V strange that the phone is cheaper when you get a business tarriff:
Including the VAT the XDAIIs works out to £211.49 on their business tarrif vs £249.99 on the personal tarriff with line rental: £19.39 vs £19 on personal tarriff.
Dont suppose I can cancel mine now, and get a business tarriff instead! You probably need a company registration no or VAT no. Wish I was still contracting !!
Nigel
I got mine for 150 by ringin up o2 and asking for discount!
It should arrive tomorrow :lol:
While im here which memory card should I get i.e. size and brand ???
Thanks
Refund
Veletron,
Of course you can get a refund - O2 will roll back any contract within 14 days - you return the hardware and just pay for calls plus the proportion of the monthly charge.
I know this because I bought a new XDA2 a few days after losing my old uninsured XDA2, then the next day it turned up in France.... long story. I called the O2 shop who were happy to refund me - it was pretty impressive service.
Online sales are the same - you have distance selling regulations giving you the same deal, only it's part of the law, rather than good customer service.
This obviously applies in the UK only - all you johnny foreigners can just drool in envy
Peter
Business Credit Check
Hi,
Just wondering, when ordering of o2's business site, wether the same credit checks are carried out before they accept you as a customer.
I don't have a business could I do it ?
Thx
@Veletron
Don't suppose, given your disappointment with the xda2s, you would be willing to swap for an ipaq 4150 complete with detatchable thumb keyboard/case and screen protector and a Sony Ericcson P910i?
Based in Glasgow. You can't blame a guy for trying!
Hi
Nope, I shall be sticking. Despite its faults, the hardware is nice, and I still hold out hope that MS/HTC/O2 will get some of the (many) issues sorted given time.
Nigel
Fair enough! Looks like I'm off to ebay then!
Adrian
We are still missing his original question...
We still have not answered crisr2000 original question:
"Can anyone guide me in the right direction to a BT TomTom package that has all the right leads and mounts for the car."
To which I'm interested as well.
I answer to the original question I had the same dilama and contacted
various people within O2 to find out and in the end took the risk.
Basically the XDAIIs has the same connector as the XDAII so any tomtom
kit made for that will work.
I went for a third party all in one powered mount with GPS with a XDAII
lead and got the software seperatly and it works fine.
BP.
Just spoke to O2 (UK) becasue i sent my XDAIIs back for replacment and they have run out of stock. I asked how long it was going to take for them to get them back in, and the woman (who was very helpful) said that she did not know but there was a new XDA coming out in may called the XDAIII and it was for their new 3G network.
She said if i wanted to wait then i could and they would give it to me for free.
Sorry if it is old news, but i could not find a date anywhere else on the forum.
While it really must be a pain to wait that long it seems a darned decent thing for them to offer.
makes a change to hear something good about 02, but then people tjhat have good experiences are hardly likely to post about them, unlike you.
I hope the wait is worth it.
Dave, nice to see another Liverpool fan on the site.
Shame about the last second goal the other night.
Unless LFC meant something totally different.
Nope it means Liverpool FC, I'm looking foward to my trip to Cardiff on Sunday!
Me too mate, although i have to sit with the $%* blues.
Hi Folks,
Just wanted to check what this thing looked like as I cannot get to see one, especially the keyboard. All the marketing pictures on VF's site seem to be the original HTC ones.
Also interested to hear how folks have got on with any unbranding efforts now that we are quite a few weeks into availability. I think there are some beta CABS around...
Thanks,
Sam
Look on the vodafone business site at the picture of the Diamond. The TF looks the same as that. Horrible!
It is simple to remove using one cab file that will put the phone to a plain black. You can then use any other theme you like, or part of a theme
Stunno,
Thanks for this. Yes, had a look.... hmm. But as you say it takes just one cab file.
Has the keyboard been "painted" red in anyway or lit up in red or is it the original? Hopefully the external branding is just the front and back logo.
Otherwise are you happy with VF? About to take the plunge from another operator.
Thanks,
Sam
Double post due to system hanging....
Sam, no the keyboard appears to be standard, grey keys with black lettering until it lights up and the lettering glows white and green for the FN button. The only visible VF stuff is indeed on the front and back but is very discreet
Vodafone has been very good. I have been with Tmobile for about 6 years and the signal strength/reception is much better with VF, apart from the odd blank spot, Tmobile reception in rural areas was shocking. Having said that I haven't seen an 'H' yet with VF.
I've uploaded the VF manual for you if you want to take a look its about 14MB. It has several depictions of the branding, but as i say it only takes one cab installation of about 10 minutes to clear it
http://rapidshare.com/files/250000341/HTC_Touch_Pro2_Vodafone_UK_English_User_Manual_v1.pdf
Stunno,
You are a star...... Thanks...
Sam
Stunno,
Just scanned the manual... Very useful insight... and reassuring to be honest althought the theme is a little "blood red".
One final thing.... Have VF removed any apps off the original ie YouTube App etc... No doubt any VOIP functionality might have been nobbled as well ???
Another point that you might have thought about is the upgrade policy of VF for things such as firmware and WM6.5. Apparently they are slow. Do you have thoughts on this?
Just trying to decide between 18 and 24 months contracts now !!!
Sam
That's a good question!
I have no Youtube app on mine, but, then again, I had Facebook integration until I changed themes and now I haven't.
I have read elsewhere that the youtube app had been removed, which is no bad thing as the 'allowance' is only 500MB.
There is also no sign of VOIP although I don't know if it is nobbled or not as I don't use that either. I rarely make international calls and my unlimited landline calls makes up for it
Stunno,
Yes the unlimited calls is very attractive to me as well. I guess it will be a good "hand free" tool as when when talking through stuff on the PC or whatever. I tended to us this a bit with my standard business landline which is now costing me too much, so turning my TP2 over for "hands free" mode may be quite an improvement.
Thanks again,
Sam
Double post...
The VF upgrade policy for software doesn't really concern me. I doubt that I would download it anyway as I always tend to use this site for anything like that.
In a few weeks hardSPL will be available, hopefully, and once the chefs get working on here there will be far superior ROMs available than anything VF can put together
I initially went for the 18 month contract, but the 3 months free and a fiver off my bill swung me to the 24 month one
Stunno,
Thanks for your thoughts... Interesting to hear how other think...
Obviously you are quite a hardcore smartphoner!! How do you deal with upgrading within contract? Do you just wait until the 21st month on the 24 when VF allows an upgrade or do you sell you the current phone and get an unlocked "newer" phone to use on the current contract?
Thanks,
Sam
Keep getting these hangs and thus double posts !!
A long time user yes, but I don't know about hardcore! I just read a lot and take grateful advantage of the excellent stuff that gets shared on here!
I tend to stick with the contract until upgrade time then look around for the phone that I want on the best deal. Apart from when I broke my Wizard, which at the time would have cost more to fix than to buy another phone! I got a great deal from Orange on a 12 month contract with a free Prophet which worked out cheaper than buying the phone!
Thanks. Appreciate the comment.
Sam
Same for all the shops...damn!
Yep, just got a reply now from Handtec.co.uk (what are they doing up at this time!):
"Thank you for your email,
The HTC Desire sim free release date has now been slightly postponed, this is in response to confirmation from HTC that the release of this product will not be the previously mentioned 29th March but will be anytime between now and the 7th April,
I do apologise for this delay however this will not only affect Handtec however will affect all UK retailers as this has been imposed by HTC directly, however once the stock arrives we will promptly dispatch the goods,
Please advise if we can assist you further."
Damn.
That's funny, then how has mine been despatched by T-Mobile and they actually have them in?
Or is this just the retail / sim free units?
That's very upsetting! It's on their website now, too.
I thought the same, but their response to me made reference to sim free versions being delayed. No idea why this would be. Gutted really.
I got an e-mail from T-Mobile, saying mine has already shipped.
Supposedly it should reach me tomorrow (Saturday).
Clove sent me an email this afternoon too saying more or less the same thing. They emphasized that the unlocked/sim free version is delayed though, that's probably why the T-Mobile ones are shipping out no problem. Just a guess about that last one though.
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Yeah I got the same from Clove back to the 7th
A little annoying but I will just have to put up with the hd2 for another week or so I guess. Cant complain to much.. Just returned to its original release date. Also received the mail from Clove at about half 5-6ish..
I guess it goes to show the pushing power the networks have when they want the hardware to go to them first.
That the main thing that frustrates me... I'm willing to pay £400 for the device but have to wait an extra week or so for the pleasure. Ahhh well I'm sure I will live..
Now I have nothing to look forward to...besides Easter egg hunting bwahaha
(Anyone like Peeps?)
Yeah I hope the first shipment is bigger than expected. I ordered mine from Clove and they already told me that mine will be shipped from the second lot. That was supposed to be on 2nd April (3 days later) so I will probably have to wait until the 10th to get mine shipped
Still, it's nice of them to keep us informed. Many places I have pre-ordered from in the past (particularly from Hong Kong) just keep you in the dark when due-dates change. That is the reason I won't deal with Expansys any more (not to mention their over-inflated prices).
Well, to those of you who went the carrier route, I think you're obligated to get reviews up IMMEDIATELY so those of us who are waiting have something to look at
Does anyone know if HTC provided a reason for the delay? If it's to fix a bug I'm more than happy to wait a little longer...
Allegedly, the Desire ROM failed Google testing - and the Big T fixed the issue quicker: www-coolsmartphone-com/news5645.html
Sorry, with a join date back in 2008 I'm a new user and must not use links ;-)
I'm from Belgium and here the shops have announced the 6th of April as release date although at some point they were mentioning 1st or 2nd of April...
Not a big deal, will wait one more week
Pretty annoying. Was getting really excited already, now gotta wait a whole lot longer. As I only recently pre ordered may be even longer till I get it....
It's weird!
Expansys UK and UAE are saying that they will have it in 4 days aka April 1...
Could they have pre-release stock like T-mobile?
When I heard about this on Saturday I was gutted and immediately assumed that HTC were putting the network carriers ahead of their direct customers, but if the Coolsmartphone report is correct then all is forgiven and I'd rather wait and let the HTC engineers work their magic.
From reading the posts on here of issues found by T-mobile folks who have received their phones already then it appears to me that they are mirroring the issues that were reported of early Desire ROMs, and if these are fixed in the phone I eventually receive then I'll be a contented bunny. In fact I'd even give HTC a big thumbs up to have the "spuds" to risk upsetting their fanbase by delaying launch to ensure that those of us forking out the full ~£400 for the Desire receive the best quality product possible.
However with people reporting issues, so unnerving me about the phone I'm going to get, and others saying it's fab so turning me green with envy, I might just have to give these forums a miss for the next week or so to keep my sanity!
I've read a few reports suggesting that Orange will be making the desire available from today (Fri 2nd Apr) through its stores and possibly online. Think techradar confirmed this in a recent article.
Can anyone shed any more light on the chances of a release today?!
Go to bed.... wake up and see!
I would be suprised if they did as 4 days ago the guy at orange said he had no clue when it is out.
I rang Orange retentions at 09:01 this morning. No HTC Desire, no release date, not likely to be released later today. Just goes to show you can't always believe what you read on t'internet!
What they did say is that they feed back demand to the powers that be on a daily basis so the more people who ring up and ask for a Desire, the faster it will be released. Apparently they are waiting until their stock of HTC Hero and some other handsets is used up (around 3-4 days worth) before launching the Desire but will launch it earlier if they sense they are losing out to other networks.
If anyone hear different, let us know!
Ian A.
Well I'm gonna head off to Vodafone once Devicewire get them in - they've got a good £25/month deal with 600 mins +texts +'unlimited' internet. I have no real faith in Orange anymore unless retentions offer me a really good deal (and based on what I had to do 18 months ago, that is as likely as me playing for the Arsenal at the Nou Camp on Tuesday - although given our injuries... )
Oh and one more thing that will definitely delay it with Orange - last night the released the Xperia X10 - they'll want to shift them first before the HTC Desire. I originally wanted that but now the reviews haven't been that favourable - no multi-touch (ever!!!!), Android 1.6 with a promise to go to 2.1 (presumably when everyone has gone to 3.0) - although their mediascape, timescape interfaces do work well. Hardware wise it could've been the ultimate handset - 8MP camera, 4 inch hi-def screen etc. yet only being a smidgeon bigger than an iPhone. Yet SE screw up again by releasing a handset with a version of software that is 6 months old. And given their current record of not fully supporting their handsets when they're out (extrememly slow updates, with bugs not being ironed out) I think I'll be giving that one a miss...
IPAddis said:
Apparently they are waiting until their stock of HTC Hero and some other handsets is used up (around 3-4 days worth) before launching the Desire but will launch it earlier if they sense they are losing out to other networks.
If anyone hear different, let us know!
Ian A.
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Are they having a laugh? They'll releease it earlier if they sense they are losing out to other networks? OK, T-Mobile had first the exclusive to get it out first, but Vodafone have it and even bloody Virgin Media have it. Losing out to other networks is a masterpiece of understatement if VM have the thing and the supposed "best network of 2009" don't yet!
I doubt they will wait for them to get rid of Xerpia X10 as its the Desire's alternative option so people who dont like HTC and are Sony fans will go for that while others will want Desire.
Nekromantik said:
I doubt they will wait for them to get rid of Xerpia X10 as its the Desire's alternative option so people who dont like HTC and are Sony fans will go for that while others will want Desire.
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Ordinarily that would be true but this is Orange we're talking about here!!!
Besides I believe they are the first to be selling the X10 so whilst they have that advantage they're gonna push that to the full. If you have a choice between that and the Desire then it fragments their sales for the X10. And let us not forget there is an outside chance of them not even stocking it all!
With the X1 they were constantly saying it was coming etc. and in the end they never officially released it (even though cpw and others were selling it on Orange plans). The X10 was listed as a coming soon phone for the last month or so, and yet the HTC Desire isn't even listed as coming soon.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it never came out on Orange (esp. if they can't get their crapware onto it)...
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and yet the HTC Desire isn't even listed as coming soon.
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I'm not agree with you
(Ok, it's in France... Good news for us anyways )
fuzzmo said:
Ordinarily that would be true but this is Orange we're talking about here!!!
Besides I believe they are the first to be selling the X10 so whilst they have that advantage they're gonna push that to the full. If you have a choice between that and the Desire then it fragments their sales for the X10. And let us not forget there is an outside chance of them not even stocking it all!
With the X1 they were constantly saying it was coming etc. and in the end they never officially released it (even though cpw and others were selling it on Orange plans). The X10 was listed as a coming soon phone for the last month or so, and yet the HTC Desire isn't even listed as coming soon.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it never came out on Orange (esp. if they can't get their crapware onto it)...
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True, I hope that dont happen tho otherwise I will have to wait till July before changing to another network as upgrade can be done early but I cant afford to buy the rest of my contract and then get a new one.
I'm not agree with you
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thats good news as if its out in France I cant see why they wont be out in UK.
Kiiv said:
I'm not agree with you
(Ok, it's in France... Good news for us anyways )
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Hehe - good news for you guys but:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-pho...nvBLDTszxGDLTK1j4vwH6JG!1816178946!-514848741
Still nothing for us! For the record I reckon it will come out but Lord knows when they will announce it. The Orange PR guy said 'early April, with the black edition late April'.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/htc-desire-black-edition-confirmed-coming-to-orange-uk-in-late/
When you consider that, it is quite bizarre that officially they don't even list it as coming soon...
Sometimes, Orange guys are not very well informed
I went in a shop two days ago (Desire already were on Orange website) and the man tell me he never heard speaking about the HTC Desire... We have so good sellers in our country
Well, once again I have spoken to Orqange and the best answer they could come out with was "within the next two weeks".
FFS it's typical Orange. Always the first to announce and the last to get!
I have, and I quote, been promised that "We'll send you a text message as soon as they have the handset available, so that you can arrange to obtain the phone".
Place your bets now on whether I'll actually get a text or not...
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Well, once again I have spoken to Orqange and the best answer they could come out with was "within the next two weeks".
FFS it's typical Orange. Always the first to announce and the last to get!
I have, and I quote, been promised that "We'll send you a text message as soon as they have the handset available, so that you can arrange to obtain the phone".
Place your bets now on whether I'll actually get a text or not...
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Yeah Orange are very bad at getting new phones in, I had this issue with the Nokia N78 and they never ended up getting it. Although that time, they had not announced they will have it while they did with Desire and its on the French website so in that way it must mean it WILL come but when is the question. They got till 14th as thats when I can upgrade ha ha but o2 not getting it till 19th and 3 till 20th so Orange got till then to be same time as others.
Have any of you guys considered making the switch to T-mobile seeing as how in a few months they will both be the same 1 network anyway?
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Have any of you guys considered making the switch to T-mobile seeing as how in a few months they will both be the same 1 network anyway?
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I am - but the department that handles issuing the PAC codes aren't open today. Will be on the phone from 09:00 tomorrow to get it and then will order the T-Mobile package (£30/month 18 months) off mobiles.co.uk.
Apparently the phone isn't even in their reviews list and the bloke on the phone wasn't even sure they would be getting it!!!!
Bet i get a different story tomorrow when I finally get my PAC code....
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I am - but the department that handles issuing the PAC codes aren't open today. Will be on the phone from 09:00 tomorrow to get it and then will order the T-Mobile package (£30/month 18 months) off mobiles.co.uk.
Apparently the phone isn't even in their reviews list and the bloke on the phone wasn't even sure they would be getting it!!!!
Bet i get a different story tomorrow when I finally get my PAC code....
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If you go through T-Mobile themselves you'll get a much better deal, the are also much more reliable than mobiles.co.uk seem to be and if the phone breaks you have the added security that you can just take it back into a store for repair instead of bothering with mailing it off etc.
If you haggle on the phone you can get the prices down, I got from this:
Handset cost : £60
600 Minutes
500 Texts
Flexible Booster
3GB Internet
£25 P/M
To:
Handset Cost: Free
600 Mins
Unlimited Texts (the flexible booster)
3GB Internet
£25 P/M
Try these excuses:
- I just phoned up and was told the phone was £x (this is what I did, I was genuine but it worked, might have to phone twice as they have it on record I assume when you phoned up)
- x.com is doing a better deal
- Vodafone is doing a better deal.
Ah OK, thanks for the advice - I was assuming a lot of the good deals were for current customers - is your deal 18 months? I don't wish to be tied in to a two year contract...
fuzzmo said:
Ah OK, thanks for the advice - I was assuming a lot of the good deals were for current customers - is your deal 18 months? I don't wish to be tied in to a two year contract...
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No, Mine is 24 months but I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to do the same thing with a 18 month contract.
The 18 month equivalent of my plan is £30 a month.
I would change but like I said in previous post, I cant afford the £80 to finish off my contract till July and then another £25 a month from April so would cost me extra £80 to change over early and no point in waiting for July as by that time a new fone would be out.