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Link here
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/index1.htm
Psiodon said:
Link here
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/index1.htm
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this is on a wizard aint it?
if it's flash it shouldnt matter what it's on, right?
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if it's flash it shouldnt matter what it's on, right?
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I guess not if the whole thing is done in flash, do you think it could be? also wouldnt flash be quite a big program?
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I guess not if the whole thing is done in flash, do you think it could be? also wouldnt flash be quite a big program?
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The Flash Lite run-time (cab) itself is very small, about 800K. The size of the application built of course would depend on the application itself. As flash itself is vector based, the application can be very optimised if the developer use vector graphics instead of bitmap like jpg as much as possible.
You can get the Flash Lite cab for Windows Mobile from Adobe site at:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/flashlite.html
Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for this
yeah its done in flash and the whole thing is probablly really really small as bchau mentioned its vector, if we get the source flash we can easily modify it to our liking
Looks interesting and very promising
Looks great!
Hmm..Ok when the cube thing came out for the first time, it was a hype for a short time. Its not that special. Its not that new, Iphone was the first with so called "touchflo". Like the design. But touchflo just dont work on the Hermes. So people want to copy it and make their own version of it. It just takes alot of space and there will always be bugs..
Don't know why people bother so much creating something that is not so useful. If you have to press any button to be able to show the cube it is useless. Maybe it looks nice but the main features are also included into htc home. The one thing that would be realy useful from touchflo is the "dragging" instead of scrolling...
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Hmm..Ok when the cube thing came out for the first time, it was a hype for a short time. Its not that special. Its not that new, Iphone was the first with so called "touchflo". Like the design. But touchflo just dont work on the Hermes. So people want to copy it and make their own version of it. It just takes alot of space and there will always be bugs..
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well for me, i don't even want the cube; but the ability to do drag&throw to a list would be useful.
so I'll watch the "TouchNav" thread closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
it's fun to have but i don't think anything special.
Any application that can provide one handed operation for most common functions is a welcomed app by me. I am currently using spb today and though it lacks the ability to really truely customize it, it beats the hell out of having 10 different plugins trying to create the same effect. Flash is a new thing for mobile interfaces so you should support it every chance you get. As you can see some really truely wicked things can be done with it in a decent footprint. With that being said, SOMETIMES its easier to start from scratch instead of reverse engineer something. There are enough threads, questions, flames to show there are enough people interested in such an application. He has not worked on it long it seems and its almost completed as well as doing work for the whoneedsaniphone project.
So, keep up the good work developers, you are appeaciated by those who can see the potential for fully customized applications.
I'll be watching this thread with interest as Flash can do some amazing things so lets see what our developers can come up with.
Hi all,
Firstly, Posting this in a seperate thread, as SINGH here is getting a bit annoyed seeing me write about someone else doing similar project, in his thread. People have to have a open mind too, when it comes to developing, and should appreciate other people's work and not be insecure about their project.
This is just like different members here developing great roms for us. But we all know every rom here, suits some, doesnt suit some. And most of us here keep switching from ROM to ROM, just to try out new stuff, and i see the ROM developers here are very open to people using other roms and reporting in their thread about it, discussing out the goods of other ROM, in another ROM's thread. Rom Builders i have seen, in this forum, have been very open to this and are taking up good bits from others. Only when this is there, we have a neat and healthy run going on with new roms coming up.
Enough of this for now,
This is to present you the work of PAUL, the ADMIN at MODACO, and he has compiled these in a very good manner and is working great.
I have been using the Panels by MODACO from past 2 days nonstop now, and its working SUPERB, without any hangups at all, and i have been switching from the Fish Panel to X1 Panel to Mobile Shell Panel and they are all working just perfect. No extra Battery Drain, no big jump in memory usage, no Slowing of device, No Hangups either.
Only problem, to say if, i see is that changing between panels, is taking a few seconds, and is not instant. And it can't be assigned to a hardware button.
Please have a look here to download and know more of it.
http://www.modaco.com/content/blackstone-blackstone-modaco-com/276540/panels-on-touch-hd-installer/
Please install it at your own risk, as Paul clearly states it as EARLY BETA!, for me, It works Perfect. might not for you. But if u are game enough, then go ahead, try it out, i hope it will work just perfect for you too!
Thanks again to PAUL @ MODACO.
PS: Singh's cab when it comes out, surely must be much better than this as he is working on it in depth, and sorting out these delay problems too, i dont deny this, but as of now, to play around, Modaco has something for you. I highly respect SINGH's work on the Panels, and wish him best of luck.
For clarity, Modaco's version does not work perfectly and has all the constraints and issues that have prevented !SINGH! from releasing a CAB.
Many of insane devil's comments are valid but please don't be misled into thinking that this is a fully functional solution. Use with caution and in the expectation of lots of soft resets.
If you are desperate to have something to show to your mates, go for it, otherwise read all the stuff in !SINGH!'s thread about why it's not currently working and accept that this is a real challenge, technically.
Fraser, have u used the Modaco's cab?
Personally, still going on good with the panels at 2.5 days, i have not had to make any resets till now, and memory hasn't gone up above 58% usage,(for me, without panels, usually its around 55-56%). And best part is, i havn't even disabled the TF3D! so i have both working perfectly well. and i just hope it goes on like that for a long time! Even if i have a reset right now, its still good score having to reset it once in 2.5 days. Singh will be able to package it better and do away the flaws that i mention below, for sure, no doubt in that. But for now, this works as near perfect.
I just dont understand why everyone is making such a big deal of it, while it is working just fine. As i did say, the only problem is that the Panel's choice menu, takes a few seconds to load (takes 8-9 Seconds on mine), which is ok as of now, to think it is something new, but once u are on a panel, and dont intend to change it every few minutes, this shouldnt be a problem at all.
Another Flaw is that when the HOME button is pressed (having TF3D enabled) it goes to TF3D, and the Panels shut down. So again have to open Panels and select the one u want.
Lastly, it cant be mapped to a button. Best way is to have that to show on ur start menu. And then select from there. OR Have it as a "favourite" app on the X1 Panel / SPB Mobile Shell panel, and select it right from your screen, close to your finger.
You are right, working really good! Personally I do not notice any particular slowness even in switching between them (2-3 secs). As you said not perfect but usable.
Still have to fully test stability though.
I also installed it.
Basically it is OK.
It is not so slow as I think.
I encountered 2 episodes of hanging.
1) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then open and close communication panel.
2) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then soft reset.
It then hanged upon the green window mobile screen.
Otherwise, it is good.
Probably, complete closing of panel is essential.
So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
I've been using the xperia panel from this morning and I had no soft resets till now. Actually I really like this panel because it's really comprehensive. No problems not having media, facebook and radio because I can have shortcuts on the panel itself for those. As for the switching I did played a lot the first hour without any issue but I don't think that you will switch tons of times a day in any case.
That said I think it's only a good thing if many people work on the same thing you know, competition just gives you one more reason to work harder...
really perfect
nice work madaco
Hey.. just installed. It is running good, no issues as yet. Will update if any... Thanks for sharing this with us.
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So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok. Afterall, people are slowly staring to use it now, and they are also having great experience. Maybe you should give it a go again, you might have a problem with the rom that u are using, which is popping troubles while using the Panels.
About the Media Facebook and Radio panels, frankly fraser, we gotta be less picky when it comes to stuff not meant for our phones. And anyway, the best panels are the X1 panel, SPB Mobile shell panel and the Today screen panel (have pocketplus today plugin+inesoft addressbook plugin+messages+calendar+tasks). And for the Fancy use, the Fish panel is the best. All these three panels are working superb!
to All:
I haven't had resets at all till now, but in next five minutes my phone will get reset as my battery is on 1% now, and i am waiting it to switch off completely, and then put it to recharge, as am using a new high capacity battery, which needs to be charged only after being discharged compeltely for first 2-3 cycles.
Till now, i didnt have any hangups with using TF3D together. And i am switching to TF3D once for 2-3 minutes once every half hour to see the stock update on the "stocks" page in TF3D, very useful for me!
Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
Anyone here knows where we can get more panels, which are made by developers other than SE themselves? i had read somewhere that there is a site which has them, but not getting it now.
Well a bit disappointing. I follow the thread on Modaco and i was happy to see this posting, but old news. Still no update and the first release was last year.
Well for something not designed for our device it runs rather well.
Actually I really like the way the default x1 panel was designed since it has almost all the essential features of tf3d in one single screen and also the way that rss feeds work that from my point of view, tf3d lacks on this matter.
I strongly recommend to all of you to test it just for the experience since in the worst case scenario you will just soft reset your device and you can uninstall it at any time.
Have fun...
i also installed it a few weeks ago. it's working perfectly on my device. sometimes it will freeze and i have to softreset but everything works fine to me.
Is there any chance this might work on a vogue?
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok.
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Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
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To be clear, it's not in the least bit about what I like and don't like, it's about the fact that this is imperfect and people, especially the many noobs on this site need to be aware of that fact.
I'm delighted for you that your version seems to be working, if highly sceptical. But please do some reading on the various Panels threads already in existence dating back to November and you will find abundant evidence of proper testing that confirms this is the exception rather than the norm. You have uncovered nothing new, merely Modaco's cruder version of the work !SINGH! produced for beta testing back at the end of November. Neither work properly for most people, irrespective of the amount of time you allow for it to get 'used to your rom'...!!
The reason !SINGH! did not release his version is because the many people on the site who treat it as a helpdesk would have inundated him with 'you broke my phone...' nonsense. Frankly I'm not in the least bit interested whether people install it or not, I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
So to all: please do as you wish, just do so in full knowledge of all the facts - I hope it works for you
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I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
I think that if you read the 1st post (and not just the title) it is VERY clear that it's a beta and you install it at your own risk (like anything you can download from here, developed by highly skilled people but nonetheless without ANY guarantee). This is again stated at Modaco's. I really don't understand why you repeat the same (obvious) alerts many times. That said I'm suggesting something new here, why not start a poll to state the usefullness/stability of this panel version. That could help the common user to decide wether to give it a try or not.
Firstly.. Why create a new thread????????????
modaco created one long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453624
It's been dead a month.. with not a single post, but it is exactly the same as this thread.! Take the hint. It's no longer being worked on!
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
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I was weary on saying anything.. then I saw this post, and I too agree with what Iain & Mallman said.
I made a comment on the other thread at the start of Dec2008
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2996255&postcount=350
In that post.. I actually told them how to re-create exactly what Paul had.
Just that sweeping statements that said Perfectly.. and Brilliantly,.. for noobs with a new HD in their hands..
Perfectly = I have to have it and it won't break my phone.
and it is far far far from stable or perfect. You will learn in due time. This I know as there is no way your HD was manufactured more stable at running modaco's panels cab than any other HD on the planet.
It is flaky... and if you had read the other thread (which i know you were posting in in Nov last year)...you would know there are those way before yourself that said exactly the same.. then stated later on..' Ok.. it is bad'.. or 'it's caused hang ups... and i have de-installed it'.... have you forgotten?
Some of those are ones that made me furious and made me question why I would even bother continuing..
anyways.. I leave you to your thread...
Iain... Nice to see you mate!
Mallman.. You gets everywhere!
Have a great 2009 to you both.
PS.. I agree with the never a more correct statement ever made on here than Iains
PPS.. And If you want to advance it some.. Work on what i put on that post above.. and you can see clearly what you need to do to get to Pauls stage..and then work forward to giving everyone on here a stable version...for me too
PPPS .. You got the Title wrong... ITS X1 Panels not Panles!
I hope someone somewhere gets a working version soon, my 1 year old daughter loves the fish and I love anything that gives daddy some peace and quiet
to add what singh has already explained, i also has already tried and install the panels from modaco almost a month now.
yes it seems work alright for couple days... but eventually u will experience hangs more then b4 trust me... those panels are still inside my hd. but i never touch it anymore... do it only to show off that the hd can play the x1 panels... and show kids the fish... ofcourse after that i must reset as it create freeze.
so for you who wanted to try.. try it... but no 1 to blame hereee install the cab try the panels. and stop using it. it will give you screen freeze more day by day!!
singh i hope u still developing the x1 panel for our beloved hd bro!!!!
CleanRAM Amazing utility which helps you to clean up the wasted RAM memory without having to restart the device and eventually saves a lot of time
Features:
Level 1 - Basic purge only (quick) - Close non-responding tasks without TouchFLO 3D interface
Level 2 - Quality Purge - recommended for best performance
Level 3 - Fundamental purge (time-consuming) - Reset non-responding tasks and services, maximum clean up!
Customized Processes List - Select the processes you wish to clean
Schedule - Automatically clean up by schedule feature. Get clean up event at a specific time
Exceptions List - Select programs (process) that you want to skip/ignore
Backup / Restore - Backup and restore all settings to INI file
Settings - Define cleanRAM behavio
you can also find the file and more info HER
or better and closer from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490:p
thanks for the "news". get a habit of searching before posting.
thanks for the "news". get a habit of searching before posting.
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..that post was originally for Diamond and I did not notice it yet, so I thank skuffx for pointing out that it also works good for the Touch HD. No offense, but a lot of visitors including myself do not have the time luxury to read every single post for every device.
I agree! Thank you!
KukurikU said:
or better and closer from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490:p
thanks for the "news". get a habit of searching before posting.
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I have stopped frequenting many forums due to replies like this....there are ways to point things out and ways to annoy...can you guess which yours was?
Let's try and get back to the "community" based way forums are supposed to be run.....
KukurikU said:
or better and closer from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490:p
thanks for the "news". get a habit of searching before posting.
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If you have a htc touch hd you dont search on other phones formus like Diamond to find what your looking after.... thats why i postet it in HTC touch hd forum
Guys I've been using this excelent utility for months now on my HD and it works like a charm, I always had it in schedule mode using another tool to launch it at specific times but now use the built in scheduler, since using this I've seldom had to soft reset or had any freeze issues!! I should've mentioned it here earlier sorry guys I guess I was selfish!
Works on the omnia too!
(lets see if this becomes a sticky )
Hello all. I just received my brand spanken new Touch Pro 2 and im currently playing with it to figure it out. Now most of you vet WinMo users know generaly what you want/need to do with your phone as soon as you get it. You know the tweaks that need to be done to make it faster, and what Aps work better than the defaults. While i know that knowledge is spread all around the forum, i though it would be nice if we collect that knowledge and pool it into one thread so that new owners can go right to it, and pick out everything they want with out hunting..
To that end, now that i am a new owner, i would like to know what I should do to it first and foremost. Ive heard their is a way to tweak the camera to make it preform better (for instance), and i know theirs a way to turn off, or make a quicker way to switch on and off 3g. This is manly the kind of stuff im looking for..
Also. Ive seen a recommendation on how to charge the battery for the first time. Pretty much Anything you guys can think of that new owners should/or need to do to get their Touch Pro 2 working in Top order. I would like to know this (so i dont end up running a slower version cause i missed something..
So how bout it? (i will edit this post as suggestions/links are posted)
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Recommended Programs to start with
* Speedbooster - Speedbooster can help you distribute the resources of your mobile device to certain tasks, more important to you in a given time moment.
* S2U2 - S2U2 is a simple lock/unlock application which has the iPhone style slide unlocking (be sure to get the VGA version for the Touch Pro 2)
* SPB Backup - Spb Backup is an application for creating backup copies of the data on your Pocket PC
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For those not in a 3G area (or have the European version in the U.S.
Disabling the 3g
Start -> Settings -> All settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Band,
and switch the network type box between Auto (depends on signal), GSM (2G) and WCDMA (3G).
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Install speedbooster.
S2U2
SPB Backup
and follow this thread...
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Where would you get these softwares from?
HeavyComponent said:
Where would you get these softwares from?
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Google, to start.
Wow some help! I already know google would, but I thought their would be DIRECT links to speed up the process. If I knew you guys were going to say Google I would of never asked!
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Wow some help! I already know google would, but I thought their would be DIRECT links to speed up the process. If I knew you guys were going to say Google I would of never asked!
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that is the point of this thread.. Ill google them and post links since people are lazy.
powersquad said:
Install speedbooster.
S2U2
SPB Backup
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
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That is a *little* more than i want to be throwing at first time WinMo users. IVe been using smart phone edition for a while so i can atleast find my way around, but given this is a new phone, and my first time using a full Winmo, i dont feel quite comfortable (yet) playing around in the registry. What im looking to collect here is "Out of the box" type of adjustments that most here would say should be made.
That other thread is good for later, but i just want to get the "ok you have your phone, now set it how it should be" mode.
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Google, to start.
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excellent! which one of the 645,000 links would you suggest i use for s2u2?
Personally, I'd start with the first one, or maybe the second one since that one is on XDA- Dev. But if you use google in a different way than me and start at the back, that' s your choice.
crazy talk said:
excellent! which one of the 645,000 links would you suggest i use for s2u2?
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Updated with the correct link. Sorry took so long.
What about using this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
Does anyone know if speedbooster is widely used in this community, and known to make a significant difference to all-round performance?
I wish all the customs roms that chefs cook up were this easy to do. I was reading on the forum last night about this and came across the cab file version of this install. Its soo easy its pathetic. by the way i have Att Tilt 2 stock rom windows.v.72001a(or somethin) windows mobile 6.5 manilla v.2.1. doing this install made me realize two things. How fast att actually can be at times. this was basically a 90mb. file. I downloaded it with opera mobile 10 on regular service in like 5 mins. Thats pretty fast to me for a phone. i can just imagine if i used opera mini but mini doesnt let store files downloaded to your storage card. which is still cool because cut and paste puts it wherever u want. Second thing i noticed is how much more Informative this forum is. That google android cab is a brilliant piece of work. i dont know how they exactly did it but it works pretty damn good to be not the final version yet. i was skeptical doing this type of modding, since it is complex and looks like your rom being reflashed or something..lol i was like ohhh lord, what i do now..lol but to much surprise, just like the instructions say, it loaded flawlessy, basically. Knowing me, i tried testing all the capabilities of it seeing how far itll let me go. I like the android set up and interface. There are still some things i noticed wasnt working yet. like the wifi. or the keyboard light doesnt come on. it still works though. i havent tried the bluetooth yet. i didnt like that my programs didnt carry over but no biggie since i guess its another format or something the phone is running. Its really cool how the install kicks windows or liniux off and boots up this android rom or whatever. they say its not an emulator or a full blown rom. seems like one to me by how good it works. Also the g sensor needs better way to calibrate. it doesnt rotate really like it should or not fast enough. When u on this though, u are limited to whats on this install. Meaning only using the programs that come on it. Knowing me, i tried going to the app store to see if itll let me download some prgrams. i got all the way to the end pressing download and an error came up on the screen. Maybe its not set up yet in this version to let u add android programs and stuff. which wouldve been insane. But hey, this is free. I definitely have to say how talented the people are that put this together. This is just like running any program really. and when i want go back to windows mobile or touch flo, just soft reset and bam, u back no problems. the first time installing is the longest, not too long though. any time after that, it boots up faster since all folders and whateva were already made. So after soft rest, i can just load it up anytime with the Haret icon just like i would load up Opera Mini. Thats just too cool. Ima fool my friends telling them i got new AnDroid Phone from HTC to mess wit their heads. Im definitely gonna read up alot more on these threads and see if any way to load or download android programs. i wanted the free opera mini 5 one so badly but error came up. force out or something. all in all, Im really liking the setup and the widgets. plus u can change backgrounds with preloaded ones, which seem high quality. just as clear as on tf3d with hdwalls. Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to rant and let any skeptical people with Tilt 2 like mines know this is One Install You definitely want to check out. I still have to test somemore on how far the capabilities go when in android mode. Ill keep ya posted.
Good post, but please press enter to break your post up into paragraphs - it makes it much easier to read!
emyllis said:
Good post, but please press enter to break your post up into paragraphs - it makes it much easier to read!
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i gotcha..lol
thanks for the post demandarin
i too am running the htc tilt2 and am rather new to all of this. so it was great to share your experience and concern. so with this android rom you saw that some things are not working. will you let me know when they get all the kinks worked out? please. i am interested. i have my phone dialed in the way i want it now with all that i have learned here, so i dont want to put anything on that doesnt have all the funtionality. so please if you remember hit me back when it is 110percent. thanks!
Doing this install/mod still enables you to use windows. you can now choose which Operating system. if u tired of windows and want to mess around with Android os, then this enables you to. this is still in developement so of course not every single function wrking. its good enough for now. i can make calls, recieve them, go online, go to android app store and download new android programs. I see what you are saying on not wanting to mess up your phone. the install cant get no easier than for this one. basically a new os/ROM without having to flash device. All i do is press Haret exe., like any other program, and it boots XDAndroid up everytime. im still amazed on having it. soon after enough reading and research, i might flash a rom or 2..lol All info needed is right here in the forum. ill keep ya posted, but this is a working version that u can text and make calls, etc...im glad i downloaded it.