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my thoughts on windows mobile 6

i did a small write up re: the official wm 6 .. not too techy but ... well you guys let me now what you think.
http://geraldo3.senolos.com/?p=133

geraldo3 said:
i did a small write up re: the official wm 6 .. not too techy but ... well you guys let me now what you think.
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Well where is it???

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Well where is it???
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@swtaltima: [HINT] Do you see that blue text underneath his invitation? Try clicking it with your mouse. It's really neat. In the Internet world, it's called a "Link", and it'll make your browser go somewhere else. Maybe ... just maybe, the article he's talking about is there.[/HINT]
geraldo3 said:
i did a small write up re: the official wm 6 .. not too techy but ... well you guys let me now what you think.
http://geraldo3.senolos.com/?p=133
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@geraldo3: This is a nice attempt, but IMO, it really doesn't talk about WM6. It talks about other apps that can be installed on any WMx OS. It doesn't bring up many of the differences between WM5 and 6, and while it talks about how powerful the OS is, I find you're really not using any of the native apps that it includes (no problem, neither am I), so how "powerful" is THAT?
When you named your device "dopey" (a common synonym for "stupid"), I thought you were going to be detailing how the changes between WM5 and WM6 are only minor ... no real modifications to the OS programs, outside of some very minor aesthetics. No enhancement of the calendar, contacts, pie, task management, basic ui, media player, etc. Many of the "bugs" that were in WM5 still exist in WM6. But your article is mostly complimentary, instead. Left me a bit puzzled.
Yes, IMO, there are many reasons to call WM6 "dopey". The only things I really find are some slight speed improvements, and few UI changes (that some people like and some hate), and, depending on the ROM, a bit more stability. It's the ROM cookers here that have made the OS CONSIDERABLY faster, and have given us back some storage and program space, to boot. IMO, WM6 really should have been called WM5.1.
On an editorial side, you've written pretty well, but you do need to check some of your grammar, sentence structure, etc, if professional writing is your goal. If not, don't worry about it ... you have gotten your points across well enough. One thing you might consider (if you haven't already), is removal of the personal details in your screen shots. The Internet can be a nasty place at times, and you need to be careful (but maybe you made sure all the data shown is false).
Anyway, that's it for my comments. Thanks for sharing!
-pvs
-pvs

Well, Mr Dictionary Man, DID YOU noticed the time of the original post and the time of the edited post?????
There is a tiny small chance that he forgot the link in the original post thats why
swtaltima wrote "well where is it?"
Check the edits before new post of yours like this. It's in human nature making mistakes.For all of us

lagoskon;1473112 said:
Well, Mr Dictionary Man, DID YOU noticed the time of the original post and the time of the edited post?????
There is a tiny small chance that he forgot the link in the original post thats why
swtaltima wrote "well where is it?"
Check the edits before new post of yours like this. It's in human nature making mistakes.For all of us
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Nice catch, lagoskon! I didn't notice that. But you're right! I guess the link wasn't there at the time he/she posted.
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It's in human nature making mistakes.For all of us
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Me included, surely.
-pvs

Good for a Blogger. I would say battery drain comes from SPB and the Radio you are using as you made it sound like wm 6 is the problem.

thanks for the inputs guys really appreciate it.

X1 Panles from MODACO: Working Almost PERFECT!

Hi all,
Firstly, Posting this in a seperate thread, as SINGH here is getting a bit annoyed seeing me write about someone else doing similar project, in his thread. People have to have a open mind too, when it comes to developing, and should appreciate other people's work and not be insecure about their project.
This is just like different members here developing great roms for us. But we all know every rom here, suits some, doesnt suit some. And most of us here keep switching from ROM to ROM, just to try out new stuff, and i see the ROM developers here are very open to people using other roms and reporting in their thread about it, discussing out the goods of other ROM, in another ROM's thread. Rom Builders i have seen, in this forum, have been very open to this and are taking up good bits from others. Only when this is there, we have a neat and healthy run going on with new roms coming up.
Enough of this for now,
This is to present you the work of PAUL, the ADMIN at MODACO, and he has compiled these in a very good manner and is working great.
I have been using the Panels by MODACO from past 2 days nonstop now, and its working SUPERB, without any hangups at all, and i have been switching from the Fish Panel to X1 Panel to Mobile Shell Panel and they are all working just perfect. No extra Battery Drain, no big jump in memory usage, no Slowing of device, No Hangups either.
Only problem, to say if, i see is that changing between panels, is taking a few seconds, and is not instant. And it can't be assigned to a hardware button.
Please have a look here to download and know more of it.
http://www.modaco.com/content/blackstone-blackstone-modaco-com/276540/panels-on-touch-hd-installer/
Please install it at your own risk, as Paul clearly states it as EARLY BETA!, for me, It works Perfect. might not for you. But if u are game enough, then go ahead, try it out, i hope it will work just perfect for you too!
Thanks again to PAUL @ MODACO.
PS: Singh's cab when it comes out, surely must be much better than this as he is working on it in depth, and sorting out these delay problems too, i dont deny this, but as of now, to play around, Modaco has something for you. I highly respect SINGH's work on the Panels, and wish him best of luck.

For clarity, Modaco's version does not work perfectly and has all the constraints and issues that have prevented !SINGH! from releasing a CAB.
Many of insane devil's comments are valid but please don't be misled into thinking that this is a fully functional solution. Use with caution and in the expectation of lots of soft resets.
If you are desperate to have something to show to your mates, go for it, otherwise read all the stuff in !SINGH!'s thread about why it's not currently working and accept that this is a real challenge, technically.

Fraser, have u used the Modaco's cab?
Personally, still going on good with the panels at 2.5 days, i have not had to make any resets till now, and memory hasn't gone up above 58% usage,(for me, without panels, usually its around 55-56%). And best part is, i havn't even disabled the TF3D! so i have both working perfectly well. and i just hope it goes on like that for a long time! Even if i have a reset right now, its still good score having to reset it once in 2.5 days. Singh will be able to package it better and do away the flaws that i mention below, for sure, no doubt in that. But for now, this works as near perfect.
I just dont understand why everyone is making such a big deal of it, while it is working just fine. As i did say, the only problem is that the Panel's choice menu, takes a few seconds to load (takes 8-9 Seconds on mine), which is ok as of now, to think it is something new, but once u are on a panel, and dont intend to change it every few minutes, this shouldnt be a problem at all.
Another Flaw is that when the HOME button is pressed (having TF3D enabled) it goes to TF3D, and the Panels shut down. So again have to open Panels and select the one u want.
Lastly, it cant be mapped to a button. Best way is to have that to show on ur start menu. And then select from there. OR Have it as a "favourite" app on the X1 Panel / SPB Mobile Shell panel, and select it right from your screen, close to your finger.

You are right, working really good! Personally I do not notice any particular slowness even in switching between them (2-3 secs). As you said not perfect but usable.
Still have to fully test stability though.

I also installed it.
Basically it is OK.
It is not so slow as I think.
I encountered 2 episodes of hanging.
1) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then open and close communication panel.
2) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then soft reset.
It then hanged upon the green window mobile screen.
Otherwise, it is good.
Probably, complete closing of panel is essential.

So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.

I've been using the xperia panel from this morning and I had no soft resets till now. Actually I really like this panel because it's really comprehensive. No problems not having media, facebook and radio because I can have shortcuts on the panel itself for those. As for the switching I did played a lot the first hour without any issue but I don't think that you will switch tons of times a day in any case.
That said I think it's only a good thing if many people work on the same thing you know, competition just gives you one more reason to work harder...

really perfect
nice work madaco

Hey.. just installed. It is running good, no issues as yet. Will update if any... Thanks for sharing this with us.

iain.fraser said:
So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok. Afterall, people are slowly staring to use it now, and they are also having great experience. Maybe you should give it a go again, you might have a problem with the rom that u are using, which is popping troubles while using the Panels.
About the Media Facebook and Radio panels, frankly fraser, we gotta be less picky when it comes to stuff not meant for our phones. And anyway, the best panels are the X1 panel, SPB Mobile shell panel and the Today screen panel (have pocketplus today plugin+inesoft addressbook plugin+messages+calendar+tasks). And for the Fancy use, the Fish panel is the best. All these three panels are working superb!
to All:
I haven't had resets at all till now, but in next five minutes my phone will get reset as my battery is on 1% now, and i am waiting it to switch off completely, and then put it to recharge, as am using a new high capacity battery, which needs to be charged only after being discharged compeltely for first 2-3 cycles.
Till now, i didnt have any hangups with using TF3D together. And i am switching to TF3D once for 2-3 minutes once every half hour to see the stock update on the "stocks" page in TF3D, very useful for me!
Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
Anyone here knows where we can get more panels, which are made by developers other than SE themselves? i had read somewhere that there is a site which has them, but not getting it now.

Well a bit disappointing. I follow the thread on Modaco and i was happy to see this posting, but old news. Still no update and the first release was last year.

Well for something not designed for our device it runs rather well.
Actually I really like the way the default x1 panel was designed since it has almost all the essential features of tf3d in one single screen and also the way that rss feeds work that from my point of view, tf3d lacks on this matter.
I strongly recommend to all of you to test it just for the experience since in the worst case scenario you will just soft reset your device and you can uninstall it at any time.
Have fun...

i also installed it a few weeks ago. it's working perfectly on my device. sometimes it will freeze and i have to softreset but everything works fine to me.

Is there any chance this might work on a vogue?

Insane Devil said:
Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok.
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Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
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To be clear, it's not in the least bit about what I like and don't like, it's about the fact that this is imperfect and people, especially the many noobs on this site need to be aware of that fact.
I'm delighted for you that your version seems to be working, if highly sceptical. But please do some reading on the various Panels threads already in existence dating back to November and you will find abundant evidence of proper testing that confirms this is the exception rather than the norm. You have uncovered nothing new, merely Modaco's cruder version of the work !SINGH! produced for beta testing back at the end of November. Neither work properly for most people, irrespective of the amount of time you allow for it to get 'used to your rom'...!!
The reason !SINGH! did not release his version is because the many people on the site who treat it as a helpdesk would have inundated him with 'you broke my phone...' nonsense. Frankly I'm not in the least bit interested whether people install it or not, I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
So to all: please do as you wish, just do so in full knowledge of all the facts - I hope it works for you

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I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!

I think that if you read the 1st post (and not just the title) it is VERY clear that it's a beta and you install it at your own risk (like anything you can download from here, developed by highly skilled people but nonetheless without ANY guarantee). This is again stated at Modaco's. I really don't understand why you repeat the same (obvious) alerts many times. That said I'm suggesting something new here, why not start a poll to state the usefullness/stability of this panel version. That could help the common user to decide wether to give it a try or not.

Firstly.. Why create a new thread????????????
modaco created one long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453624
It's been dead a month.. with not a single post, but it is exactly the same as this thread.! Take the hint. It's no longer being worked on!
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
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I was weary on saying anything.. then I saw this post, and I too agree with what Iain & Mallman said.
I made a comment on the other thread at the start of Dec2008
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2996255&postcount=350
In that post.. I actually told them how to re-create exactly what Paul had.
Just that sweeping statements that said Perfectly.. and Brilliantly,.. for noobs with a new HD in their hands..
Perfectly = I have to have it and it won't break my phone.
and it is far far far from stable or perfect. You will learn in due time. This I know as there is no way your HD was manufactured more stable at running modaco's panels cab than any other HD on the planet.
It is flaky... and if you had read the other thread (which i know you were posting in in Nov last year)...you would know there are those way before yourself that said exactly the same.. then stated later on..' Ok.. it is bad'.. or 'it's caused hang ups... and i have de-installed it'.... have you forgotten?
Some of those are ones that made me furious and made me question why I would even bother continuing..
anyways.. I leave you to your thread...
Iain... Nice to see you mate!
Mallman.. You gets everywhere!
Have a great 2009 to you both.
PS.. I agree with the never a more correct statement ever made on here than Iains
PPS.. And If you want to advance it some.. Work on what i put on that post above.. and you can see clearly what you need to do to get to Pauls stage..and then work forward to giving everyone on here a stable version...for me too
PPPS .. You got the Title wrong... ITS X1 Panels not Panles!

I hope someone somewhere gets a working version soon, my 1 year old daughter loves the fish and I love anything that gives daddy some peace and quiet

to add what singh has already explained, i also has already tried and install the panels from modaco almost a month now.
yes it seems work alright for couple days... but eventually u will experience hangs more then b4 trust me... those panels are still inside my hd. but i never touch it anymore... do it only to show off that the hd can play the x1 panels... and show kids the fish... ofcourse after that i must reset as it create freeze.
so for you who wanted to try.. try it... but no 1 to blame hereee install the cab try the panels. and stop using it. it will give you screen freeze more day by day!!
singh i hope u still developing the x1 panel for our beloved hd bro!!!!

I downloaded the Android Cab file on TIlt 2, n luvn it

I wish all the customs roms that chefs cook up were this easy to do. I was reading on the forum last night about this and came across the cab file version of this install. Its soo easy its pathetic. by the way i have Att Tilt 2 stock rom windows.v.72001a(or somethin) windows mobile 6.5 manilla v.2.1. doing this install made me realize two things. How fast att actually can be at times. this was basically a 90mb. file. I downloaded it with opera mobile 10 on regular service in like 5 mins. Thats pretty fast to me for a phone. i can just imagine if i used opera mini but mini doesnt let store files downloaded to your storage card. which is still cool because cut and paste puts it wherever u want. Second thing i noticed is how much more Informative this forum is. That google android cab is a brilliant piece of work. i dont know how they exactly did it but it works pretty damn good to be not the final version yet. i was skeptical doing this type of modding, since it is complex and looks like your rom being reflashed or something..lol i was like ohhh lord, what i do now..lol but to much surprise, just like the instructions say, it loaded flawlessy, basically. Knowing me, i tried testing all the capabilities of it seeing how far itll let me go. I like the android set up and interface. There are still some things i noticed wasnt working yet. like the wifi. or the keyboard light doesnt come on. it still works though. i havent tried the bluetooth yet. i didnt like that my programs didnt carry over but no biggie since i guess its another format or something the phone is running. Its really cool how the install kicks windows or liniux off and boots up this android rom or whatever. they say its not an emulator or a full blown rom. seems like one to me by how good it works. Also the g sensor needs better way to calibrate. it doesnt rotate really like it should or not fast enough. When u on this though, u are limited to whats on this install. Meaning only using the programs that come on it. Knowing me, i tried going to the app store to see if itll let me download some prgrams. i got all the way to the end pressing download and an error came up on the screen. Maybe its not set up yet in this version to let u add android programs and stuff. which wouldve been insane. But hey, this is free. I definitely have to say how talented the people are that put this together. This is just like running any program really. and when i want go back to windows mobile or touch flo, just soft reset and bam, u back no problems. the first time installing is the longest, not too long though. any time after that, it boots up faster since all folders and whateva were already made. So after soft rest, i can just load it up anytime with the Haret icon just like i would load up Opera Mini. Thats just too cool. Ima fool my friends telling them i got new AnDroid Phone from HTC to mess wit their heads. Im definitely gonna read up alot more on these threads and see if any way to load or download android programs. i wanted the free opera mini 5 one so badly but error came up. force out or something. all in all, Im really liking the setup and the widgets. plus u can change backgrounds with preloaded ones, which seem high quality. just as clear as on tf3d with hdwalls. Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to rant and let any skeptical people with Tilt 2 like mines know this is One Install You definitely want to check out. I still have to test somemore on how far the capabilities go when in android mode. Ill keep ya posted.

Good post, but please press enter to break your post up into paragraphs - it makes it much easier to read!

emyllis said:
Good post, but please press enter to break your post up into paragraphs - it makes it much easier to read!
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i gotcha..lol

thanks for the post demandarin
i too am running the htc tilt2 and am rather new to all of this. so it was great to share your experience and concern. so with this android rom you saw that some things are not working. will you let me know when they get all the kinks worked out? please. i am interested. i have my phone dialed in the way i want it now with all that i have learned here, so i dont want to put anything on that doesnt have all the funtionality. so please if you remember hit me back when it is 110percent. thanks!

Doing this install/mod still enables you to use windows. you can now choose which Operating system. if u tired of windows and want to mess around with Android os, then this enables you to. this is still in developement so of course not every single function wrking. its good enough for now. i can make calls, recieve them, go online, go to android app store and download new android programs. I see what you are saying on not wanting to mess up your phone. the install cant get no easier than for this one. basically a new os/ROM without having to flash device. All i do is press Haret exe., like any other program, and it boots XDAndroid up everytime. im still amazed on having it. soon after enough reading and research, i might flash a rom or 2..lol All info needed is right here in the forum. ill keep ya posted, but this is a working version that u can text and make calls, etc...im glad i downloaded it.

(REQ) One hundred push ups app

Hello guys. I would like to request a one hundred push ups app.
This is the website: hundredpushups.com/index.html
And there is already an iphone app for it. Maybe someone is able to make the same thing? So a little stopwatch + reminder when you need to push up and the weeks etcetera.
Great thanks!

I could probably make something like this. But it would have to be on my backburners until i finish up FFP_LockScreen (which shouldn't be too much longer). And put in the time that VisualGVoice deserves (*sigh*). If there were incentive to make such an app, I could push it up my To-Do list, but realize that my other apps have incentives as well (both monetary and challenges to my coding abilities).
It wouldn't be too hard to make, in fact. If someone wants to dev it, but needs the concepts on how to code it, I would be more than glad to help that way.

Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I could probably make something like this. But it would have to be on my backburners until i finish up FFP_LockScreen (which shouldn't be too much longer). And put in the time that VisualGVoice deserves (*sigh*). If there were incentive to make such an app, I could push it up my To-Do list, but realize that my other apps have incentives as well (both monetary and challenges to my coding abilities).
It wouldn't be too hard to make, in fact. If someone wants to dev it, but needs the concepts on how to code it, I would be more than glad to help that way.
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I don't suppose you'd have time to modify imgresize to report back the image dimensions? I love the app, but I would love it even more if I fed it an argument like "-find res" - and it returned the x and y dimensions, so that I can determine whether an image needs resizing or not. Sorry for the ot.

Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I could probably make something like this. But it would have to be on my backburners until i finish up FFP_LockScreen (which shouldn't be too much longer). And put in the time that VisualGVoice deserves (*sigh*). If there were incentive to make such an app, I could push it up my To-Do list, but realize that my other apps have incentives as well (both monetary and challenges to my coding abilities).
It wouldn't be too hard to make, in fact. If someone wants to dev it, but needs the concepts on how to code it, I would be more than glad to help that way.
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Thanks for you help man! I really appreciate it
Hopefully more developers will help to get this app ready and working!

bump, anyone?

igi0n said:
bump, anyone?
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I will consider this after I release the next version of LateReader.
By the time can somebody post the screenshots from the iphone application. The screenshots really help a lot when developing a GUI intensive application.

Here are all the images you need:
itunes.apple.com/nl/app/hundred-pushups/id301174591?mt=8
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And if someone is developing it, could you please bring out a Qvga version first? I got a palm treo pro

igi0n said:
Here are all the images you need:
itunes.apple.com/nl/app/hundred-pushups/id301174591?mt=8
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And if someone is developing it, could you please bring out a Qvga version first? I got a palm treo pro
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If I happen to start developing this, it will have to be resolution independent then (usually no big deal), because I have a HD2 (WVGA).
Also the link contains only two images of the iphone app as far as I see. If we could have more screenshots (one for each screen), that would help a lot. I know, the concept is already very simple, but still having some screens to start with makes the development process real faster.
Edit : actually the link contains 5 images but still not all the screens covered. OK, whatever, this at least something to start with.

Some more images are over here,
topiphoneresource.info/hundred-pushups-app-review/
A little video about it!
youtube.com/watch?v=juRnP-Ub0h4

BUMP.
Vizier, how's it going with the app? Have you started the project already ?

igi0n said:
BUMP.
Vizier, how's it going with the app? Have you started the project already ?
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Not yet... LateReader still requires my time I believe.
Anyway, I will definitely look into this if no one starts developing, but I can not promise for when I would start it

I too have this app for my ipod touch and I have the sit-ups one. I been thinking about making this as an app, which should be simple enough. The only thing I need to figure out is the number of push ups required for each days etc.
For example, when you first use it you are suppose to do as many as you can and then enter that number. From there the program works out how many push ups you have to do each day. How do you work that out?

Gaz25 said:
I too have this app for my ipod touch and I have the sit-ups one. I been thinking about making this as an app, which should be simple enough. The only thing I need to figure out is the number of push ups required for each days etc.
For example, when you first use it you are suppose to do as many as you can and then enter that number. From there the program works out how many push ups you have to do each day. How do you work that out?
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You can use the tables provided in the website. (www.hundredpushups.com, etc.)

nice! I will take a look

Wanted to say the same, check out the tables @ the website. when you start up the app you can just choose your table and from there a little timer appears and you have to do the pushup's your supposed to do

I have started work on this application and will keep you posted with updates. Any idea for a program name? Don't really want to call it "100 pushups"

Gaz25 said:
I have started work on this application and will keep you posted with updates. Any idea for a program name? Don't really want to call it "100 pushups"
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How about "Flexiones" or "Chester" or "Daily Break" or "Earth Mover" or "Parallels"???
Just throwing out what just popped in
Can I help you with the beta... PM me.

Push it to the limit!
Could i be a beta tester?

After just discovering the hundred push up site the other day and deciding to do it; it took one quick search to find you guys have just started making this program!
Would love to help with any beta testing if I could be useful!

You can all be beta testers
There are 3 main stages/versions I'm aiming for.
Functionality - This will be the first version which will have a rubbish GUI but its purpose will be to make sure the program works.
GUI - This will be as above but a nice polished GUI to run it :-D
Final Build - After I post the GUI version I will be asking if anyone wants features added or something changed etc. This version will have those changes.
Here's what I currently have and testing in the Functionality version.
* Databased filled with the 6 weeks programs.
* Main menu with 3 buttons. "Today's Program", "Log/Charts" and "Good Form". The last 2 buttons are currently disabled.
* Today's Program displays a test screen after every week and will create a program for the next week based on the results.
* Today's Program displays the week number, Day, number of sets and the number of reps for each set. There is also a working timer for the rest periods.
* After each program has been completed the data is recorded.
At the moment everything seems to be working, I simulated 2 weeks worth and everything recorded and the correct programs loaded etc. So, if I continue as I am I may have a first release ready by the weekend for people to play with.

[Q] [Request] Simple number application

Hello,
I'm a starting devolper, i tried to install visual studio and the sdk's ect, but im stuck in a huge reducantion hell. but that aside.
I wourld realy like if someone is able to make me this application.
i want a simple application with 2 number input filelds (i would prefer if you use the sense sdk)
and the deafault value of both sould be 20, en max to 50, and min to 0.
I wourld realy like it if it has a scrolling function for the input.
it doesent have to do anything with the number.
for example of what i would like it to look like see atatchment

Hmmm,simple to do that.
May I have a question for what purpose do you need that?

TomasNM said:
Hmmm,simple to do that.
May I have a question for what purpose do you need that?
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For a game, Magic the Gathering. I would realy apriciate it if you made it

I can try to do something,but in different,bit simplier design first of all.
Scrolling or up/down controls?
Please describe better your requests,what exactly you want.

Well its realy easy to make, just ust the sense sdk, in the link upside, and it will graphicaly look right.
so that you can easly go up or down several numbers. so you can scroll it, it's nececairly

I could do that just using native code(I have knowledges just with Embedded Visual C++). I have no experiences with Sense SDK. Will be it hope enough. A will give a look at it within few hours.

Here we go.
Please check out this demo and let me know,if the scrolling is OK.
Exit from the app is by tapping area below 400pixels.

testing it now
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works like a charm but a question can you make one box next to it, and some sort of line in the middle, so that you can see what value it has and maybe move it a bit away from the corner.
TYVM

Of course.
This is just a scrolling test. I started to develop it from zero.
Can you paint some layout you like?

The first one is how it curently looks the second one is what i like it to look like

Just so simple?
Sorry,I can't share it with this design
I will prepare something more clever okay?

sure, or jou could make it like this screenshot i posted in front. XD
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like the second one only bigger, and much longer
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look what i found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701177

Btw,what a device you are using?
This link you posted for my imagine of the design or did you found what you want?

i found what i wanted, thankyou very much

OK,no problem. However I'll finish that,maybe you'll like it.
Working on this design...

Tahts way better bit i dislike the brown, can you use red perhaps?, and i dont think its quite the resolution of my phone. i'v got the hd2

Well,little bit busy at work...
However I thought,you found your needs,so I start focusing on another things.
I can spend some time with further development...