Hi all,
Firstly, Posting this in a seperate thread, as SINGH here is getting a bit annoyed seeing me write about someone else doing similar project, in his thread. People have to have a open mind too, when it comes to developing, and should appreciate other people's work and not be insecure about their project.
This is just like different members here developing great roms for us. But we all know every rom here, suits some, doesnt suit some. And most of us here keep switching from ROM to ROM, just to try out new stuff, and i see the ROM developers here are very open to people using other roms and reporting in their thread about it, discussing out the goods of other ROM, in another ROM's thread. Rom Builders i have seen, in this forum, have been very open to this and are taking up good bits from others. Only when this is there, we have a neat and healthy run going on with new roms coming up.
Enough of this for now,
This is to present you the work of PAUL, the ADMIN at MODACO, and he has compiled these in a very good manner and is working great.
I have been using the Panels by MODACO from past 2 days nonstop now, and its working SUPERB, without any hangups at all, and i have been switching from the Fish Panel to X1 Panel to Mobile Shell Panel and they are all working just perfect. No extra Battery Drain, no big jump in memory usage, no Slowing of device, No Hangups either.
Only problem, to say if, i see is that changing between panels, is taking a few seconds, and is not instant. And it can't be assigned to a hardware button.
Please have a look here to download and know more of it.
http://www.modaco.com/content/blackstone-blackstone-modaco-com/276540/panels-on-touch-hd-installer/
Please install it at your own risk, as Paul clearly states it as EARLY BETA!, for me, It works Perfect. might not for you. But if u are game enough, then go ahead, try it out, i hope it will work just perfect for you too!
Thanks again to PAUL @ MODACO.
PS: Singh's cab when it comes out, surely must be much better than this as he is working on it in depth, and sorting out these delay problems too, i dont deny this, but as of now, to play around, Modaco has something for you. I highly respect SINGH's work on the Panels, and wish him best of luck.
For clarity, Modaco's version does not work perfectly and has all the constraints and issues that have prevented !SINGH! from releasing a CAB.
Many of insane devil's comments are valid but please don't be misled into thinking that this is a fully functional solution. Use with caution and in the expectation of lots of soft resets.
If you are desperate to have something to show to your mates, go for it, otherwise read all the stuff in !SINGH!'s thread about why it's not currently working and accept that this is a real challenge, technically.
Fraser, have u used the Modaco's cab?
Personally, still going on good with the panels at 2.5 days, i have not had to make any resets till now, and memory hasn't gone up above 58% usage,(for me, without panels, usually its around 55-56%). And best part is, i havn't even disabled the TF3D! so i have both working perfectly well. and i just hope it goes on like that for a long time! Even if i have a reset right now, its still good score having to reset it once in 2.5 days. Singh will be able to package it better and do away the flaws that i mention below, for sure, no doubt in that. But for now, this works as near perfect.
I just dont understand why everyone is making such a big deal of it, while it is working just fine. As i did say, the only problem is that the Panel's choice menu, takes a few seconds to load (takes 8-9 Seconds on mine), which is ok as of now, to think it is something new, but once u are on a panel, and dont intend to change it every few minutes, this shouldnt be a problem at all.
Another Flaw is that when the HOME button is pressed (having TF3D enabled) it goes to TF3D, and the Panels shut down. So again have to open Panels and select the one u want.
Lastly, it cant be mapped to a button. Best way is to have that to show on ur start menu. And then select from there. OR Have it as a "favourite" app on the X1 Panel / SPB Mobile Shell panel, and select it right from your screen, close to your finger.
You are right, working really good! Personally I do not notice any particular slowness even in switching between them (2-3 secs). As you said not perfect but usable.
Still have to fully test stability though.
I also installed it.
Basically it is OK.
It is not so slow as I think.
I encountered 2 episodes of hanging.
1) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then open and close communication panel.
2) switching to TF3D without closing panel, then soft reset.
It then hanged upon the green window mobile screen.
Otherwise, it is good.
Probably, complete closing of panel is essential.
So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
I've been using the xperia panel from this morning and I had no soft resets till now. Actually I really like this panel because it's really comprehensive. No problems not having media, facebook and radio because I can have shortcuts on the panel itself for those. As for the switching I did played a lot the first hour without any issue but I don't think that you will switch tons of times a day in any case.
That said I think it's only a good thing if many people work on the same thing you know, competition just gives you one more reason to work harder...
really perfect
nice work madaco
Hey.. just installed. It is running good, no issues as yet. Will update if any... Thanks for sharing this with us.
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So can you:
Use the Media Panel? No
Use the Facebook Panel? No
Use the Radio Panel? No
Switch between panels more than 5-10 times without a soft reset? Probably not
So it's not working perfectly then. Even the posts over on Modaco say that.
At the moment this remains no more than a toy and again, to the inexperienced and unwary I would say by all means try this, but please do so in full awareness of the issues it may cause.
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok. Afterall, people are slowly staring to use it now, and they are also having great experience. Maybe you should give it a go again, you might have a problem with the rom that u are using, which is popping troubles while using the Panels.
About the Media Facebook and Radio panels, frankly fraser, we gotta be less picky when it comes to stuff not meant for our phones. And anyway, the best panels are the X1 panel, SPB Mobile shell panel and the Today screen panel (have pocketplus today plugin+inesoft addressbook plugin+messages+calendar+tasks). And for the Fancy use, the Fish panel is the best. All these three panels are working superb!
to All:
I haven't had resets at all till now, but in next five minutes my phone will get reset as my battery is on 1% now, and i am waiting it to switch off completely, and then put it to recharge, as am using a new high capacity battery, which needs to be charged only after being discharged compeltely for first 2-3 cycles.
Till now, i didnt have any hangups with using TF3D together. And i am switching to TF3D once for 2-3 minutes once every half hour to see the stock update on the "stocks" page in TF3D, very useful for me!
Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
Anyone here knows where we can get more panels, which are made by developers other than SE themselves? i had read somewhere that there is a site which has them, but not getting it now.
Well a bit disappointing. I follow the thread on Modaco and i was happy to see this posting, but old news. Still no update and the first release was last year.
Well for something not designed for our device it runs rather well.
Actually I really like the way the default x1 panel was designed since it has almost all the essential features of tf3d in one single screen and also the way that rss feeds work that from my point of view, tf3d lacks on this matter.
I strongly recommend to all of you to test it just for the experience since in the worst case scenario you will just soft reset your device and you can uninstall it at any time.
Have fun...
i also installed it a few weeks ago. it's working perfectly on my device. sometimes it will freeze and i have to softreset but everything works fine to me.
Is there any chance this might work on a vogue?
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Really sad to see that u dont like it one bit, Fraser, but then, its ok.
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Just keep playing around, maybe it will get set in a few days once it gets used to your rom.
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To be clear, it's not in the least bit about what I like and don't like, it's about the fact that this is imperfect and people, especially the many noobs on this site need to be aware of that fact.
I'm delighted for you that your version seems to be working, if highly sceptical. But please do some reading on the various Panels threads already in existence dating back to November and you will find abundant evidence of proper testing that confirms this is the exception rather than the norm. You have uncovered nothing new, merely Modaco's cruder version of the work !SINGH! produced for beta testing back at the end of November. Neither work properly for most people, irrespective of the amount of time you allow for it to get 'used to your rom'...!!
The reason !SINGH! did not release his version is because the many people on the site who treat it as a helpdesk would have inundated him with 'you broke my phone...' nonsense. Frankly I'm not in the least bit interested whether people install it or not, I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
So to all: please do as you wish, just do so in full knowledge of all the facts - I hope it works for you
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I just think sweeping and inaccurate statements like 'it works perfectly' are dangerous and need to be balanced out by the weight of evidence.
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
I think that if you read the 1st post (and not just the title) it is VERY clear that it's a beta and you install it at your own risk (like anything you can download from here, developed by highly skilled people but nonetheless without ANY guarantee). This is again stated at Modaco's. I really don't understand why you repeat the same (obvious) alerts many times. That said I'm suggesting something new here, why not start a poll to state the usefullness/stability of this panel version. That could help the common user to decide wether to give it a try or not.
Firstly.. Why create a new thread????????????
modaco created one long ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453624
It's been dead a month.. with not a single post, but it is exactly the same as this thread.! Take the hint. It's no longer being worked on!
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never have I agreed more with a statement on this board. Absolutely well said Iain!!
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I was weary on saying anything.. then I saw this post, and I too agree with what Iain & Mallman said.
I made a comment on the other thread at the start of Dec2008
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2996255&postcount=350
In that post.. I actually told them how to re-create exactly what Paul had.
Just that sweeping statements that said Perfectly.. and Brilliantly,.. for noobs with a new HD in their hands..
Perfectly = I have to have it and it won't break my phone.
and it is far far far from stable or perfect. You will learn in due time. This I know as there is no way your HD was manufactured more stable at running modaco's panels cab than any other HD on the planet.
It is flaky... and if you had read the other thread (which i know you were posting in in Nov last year)...you would know there are those way before yourself that said exactly the same.. then stated later on..' Ok.. it is bad'.. or 'it's caused hang ups... and i have de-installed it'.... have you forgotten?
Some of those are ones that made me furious and made me question why I would even bother continuing..
anyways.. I leave you to your thread...
Iain... Nice to see you mate!
Mallman.. You gets everywhere!
Have a great 2009 to you both.
PS.. I agree with the never a more correct statement ever made on here than Iains
PPS.. And If you want to advance it some.. Work on what i put on that post above.. and you can see clearly what you need to do to get to Pauls stage..and then work forward to giving everyone on here a stable version...for me too
PPPS .. You got the Title wrong... ITS X1 Panels not Panles!
I hope someone somewhere gets a working version soon, my 1 year old daughter loves the fish and I love anything that gives daddy some peace and quiet
to add what singh has already explained, i also has already tried and install the panels from modaco almost a month now.
yes it seems work alright for couple days... but eventually u will experience hangs more then b4 trust me... those panels are still inside my hd. but i never touch it anymore... do it only to show off that the hd can play the x1 panels... and show kids the fish... ofcourse after that i must reset as it create freeze.
so for you who wanted to try.. try it... but no 1 to blame hereee install the cab try the panels. and stop using it. it will give you screen freeze more day by day!!
singh i hope u still developing the x1 panel for our beloved hd bro!!!!
Related
i really want to upgrade to wm 6.
my htc tytn does seem to run slugish with wm 5.(i have done some updates)
i use the USA cingular network
rom 1.18.255.3
radio 1.35.00.11
protocol ver 32.68.7020.10h
extrom ver 1.18.255.106.
i have done a lot of searching on the forum and have seen some programs have problems. some of these have fixes like slingbox.
i want to make sure that these programs will work after the black 2.5 upgrade. so far black 2.5 seems to be the main one people like.
here is a list of programs i am worried about.
any feed back would be great.
thanks
1.sling box. (will all ver of sling box work witht the patch? what made it stop working? would that effect any other programs?)
2.tomtom ver 6 (i really hope this works still)
3.google earth
4.vnc
5.bluetooth gampad
6.webcamera plus/cool camera
7.Implus
read the wiki and do some searches before posting a new thread please
i have read the wiki for a lot of things and the many new rom updates
and read and searched a good handful of threads.
i am not asking for anything big
just a small yay or nay. on some of the listed programs.
so hence the new thread.
1 ?
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
5 ?
6 Yes
7 ?
If you actually took the time to read for a while you'd know that with any ROM some apps will be buggy, and then along comes some fixes. Stick with WM5. If you don't have time to investigate what you're getting into, don't waste your time flashing a new ROM unless you know before-hand that you're gonna run into problems. How about this. Try a ROM, add the apps you want. If you run into problems work through them like EVERYONE else, because your configuration wont be the same as someone else's, and IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ THREADS you'd already know what apps are buggy with WM6, and the ones not listed you can add if you experience a problem. That's how the whole problem/fix thing works. Sorry. I'm just sick of these threads everyday from people wanting to know some magical setup or which ROM is TEH BESTEST cause they just want a finished product and don't care about the learning process. When you make the jump to flash your device, you become a "tester" like everyone else. It's not rocket science, but it's not finger paints either.
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1 ?
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
5 ?
6 Yes
7 ?
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cool thanks
ronfin44,
i "READ" the posts i know there are bugs.(hence the question on the programs)
why would i risk a bricked phone or waste any extra time if some one else has already found out the needed info. most of the programs i asked about are some what common. it would not be so crazy to think there are a few people here that have tried and have some feed back.
based on the feed back i will decide if i want to go farther.
is it too much to come up with a risk analysis before committing to a project?
my god if asking for some feed back on a small list was such a sin why even have a forum.
"Risk annalysis". When you decide to do something like this there's a risk, but an app that may not be "buggy" for one, may be "buggy" for another. Try 2.5, load your apps, and see if everything runs fine. It's usually not the apps that cause problems but the development of the ROM, ie a ton of fixes that follow once one has been released. The apps with a history are posted ALL over this forum. If you haven't seen any of yours then why not try the ROM and see? It's not magic. If you run into a problem, post it and we'll help ya work it out. The forum gets cluttered with so many threads asking questions that could be answered by hanging around and doing a lot of reading and using the search feature. I know the search function isn't perfect, but it works.
Advice; load 2.5, load your apps. Good luck. If you run into some problems, check the 2.5 thread FIRST for an answer, if not, POST IN THAT THREAD about the problems you're having with THAT ROM and people will be happy to help. It just keeps the forum cleaner.
I can report that IM+ 4.3 works without crashes or any downtime, although it drains the battery like a mofo (didn't on WM5), it works 1000x better than it ever did on my 8125 with WM5.0.
Edit: other versons of im+ 4.9 ect. will crash / lock up your hermes on WM6.0 roms so be aware you MUST use 4.3 or higher.
Link here
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/index1.htm
Psiodon said:
Link here
http://www.tolna.net/~szabika/wm/index1.htm
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this is on a wizard aint it?
if it's flash it shouldnt matter what it's on, right?
ahfunaki said:
if it's flash it shouldnt matter what it's on, right?
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I guess not if the whole thing is done in flash, do you think it could be? also wouldnt flash be quite a big program?
bennec83 said:
I guess not if the whole thing is done in flash, do you think it could be? also wouldnt flash be quite a big program?
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The Flash Lite run-time (cab) itself is very small, about 800K. The size of the application built of course would depend on the application itself. As flash itself is vector based, the application can be very optimised if the developer use vector graphics instead of bitmap like jpg as much as possible.
You can get the Flash Lite cab for Windows Mobile from Adobe site at:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/flashlite.html
Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for this
yeah its done in flash and the whole thing is probablly really really small as bchau mentioned its vector, if we get the source flash we can easily modify it to our liking
Looks interesting and very promising
Looks great!
Hmm..Ok when the cube thing came out for the first time, it was a hype for a short time. Its not that special. Its not that new, Iphone was the first with so called "touchflo". Like the design. But touchflo just dont work on the Hermes. So people want to copy it and make their own version of it. It just takes alot of space and there will always be bugs..
Don't know why people bother so much creating something that is not so useful. If you have to press any button to be able to show the cube it is useless. Maybe it looks nice but the main features are also included into htc home. The one thing that would be realy useful from touchflo is the "dragging" instead of scrolling...
Bram87 said:
Hmm..Ok when the cube thing came out for the first time, it was a hype for a short time. Its not that special. Its not that new, Iphone was the first with so called "touchflo". Like the design. But touchflo just dont work on the Hermes. So people want to copy it and make their own version of it. It just takes alot of space and there will always be bugs..
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well for me, i don't even want the cube; but the ability to do drag&throw to a list would be useful.
so I'll watch the "TouchNav" thread closely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
it's fun to have but i don't think anything special.
Any application that can provide one handed operation for most common functions is a welcomed app by me. I am currently using spb today and though it lacks the ability to really truely customize it, it beats the hell out of having 10 different plugins trying to create the same effect. Flash is a new thing for mobile interfaces so you should support it every chance you get. As you can see some really truely wicked things can be done with it in a decent footprint. With that being said, SOMETIMES its easier to start from scratch instead of reverse engineer something. There are enough threads, questions, flames to show there are enough people interested in such an application. He has not worked on it long it seems and its almost completed as well as doing work for the whoneedsaniphone project.
So, keep up the good work developers, you are appeaciated by those who can see the potential for fully customized applications.
I'll be watching this thread with interest as Flash can do some amazing things so lets see what our developers can come up with.
Perhaps I'm being a numpty, but I can't get the camera to save pictures!
I start the camera, zoom, focus and press the button. The viewfinder freezes for a second and then the toolbar appears at the bottom, giving me all options except saving the picture. A quick view in the My Picture folders doesn't yield a picture. If they are saved where are they and if not saved, then what is going on?
WM6 with B&B v4.0 on O2 XDA Orbit
Thanks in advance.
Fucawi
The camera in B&B4 is pretty much screwed beyond use. Tom is too busy making money from the sycophants by writing the next ROM to do anything to fix this one, which has a list of problems as long as the contributors to his Pay-Pal account. If you want touch-Flo though it is about the best your going to get.
The flo thingy is ok, but not enough to get pants all knotted about. The camera would be useful to make best use of the picture contacts facility. I never used the camera much anyway as it wasn't that good. I suppose I can take piccies on a proper camera and pop them onto the card.....no huge loss really.
Fucawi said:
Perhaps I'm being a numpty, but I can't get the camera to save pictures!
I start the camera, zoom, focus and press the button. The viewfinder freezes for a second and then the toolbar appears at the bottom, giving me all options except saving the picture. A quick view in the My Picture folders doesn't yield a picture. If they are saved where are they and if not saved, then what is going on?
WM6 with B&B v4.0 on O2 XDA Orbit
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Fucawi
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hello,
i have also a orbit and i can save my fotos on the storage card. There is a new folder called DCIM. The fotos and videos will be storaged there.
I have the same problem if i want to save a contact foto. this function doesn`t work.
But you can shot a normal foto and select this in pocketcm as contact foto.
Marcus
MaskedMarauder said:
The camera in B&B4 is pretty much screwed beyond use. Tom is too busy making money from the sycophants by writing the next ROM to do anything to fix this one, which has a list of problems as long as the contributors to his Pay-Pal account. If you want touch-Flo though it is about the best your going to get.
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i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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no sry, he is right.
its not like the camera bugs are minor things. these are major bugs, which are really annoying.
and yet, in the B&B 4 Thread, tom never replied to a post where something with the camera was mentioned. (correct me if i'm mistaken, but i read all 100 pages).
And now hes doing a new rom, so i don't see a fix for B&B 4 coming :-/
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i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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I did install B&B4, I don't have it on now. And I did think about my comments. As for complaining my ass off, no, I don't think so. There is more I could complain about, much more, like the transcriber being missing, but won't because it is no longer a concern of mine.
I have respect for Tom for what he does but his latest ROM was rushed out, not fully tested, among shouts from people that they would donate if he got a Touch-Flo version out, other Touch-Flo ROMs were appearing, but were full of other stuff not everyone wanted and with minor operating problems like the 'X' close button not working etc. So people screamed for Tom's next ROM, and out it came. Complete with all the bugs reported so far.
If Tom chooses not to fix the bugs then that is fine by me, I can't use his ROMs if features of my device that I want to use don't work right. But Tom needs to be careful, up until recently all his efforts were for the community you want to build, but money can skew people without them realising it is happening. Perhaps if he sorted the bugs out then started looking for donations again....
no problems here...
@ Fucawi: Did you set your camera to save your pictures on your card? Then look in \Storage Card\DCIM\100MEDIA.
@ MaskedMarauder: For some people not being able to save the pic as a contact pic isn't the end of the world. Thusfar the B&B rom has been working fine with a few minor bugs. Personally I think your comment about Tom going for the money and not solving your problem is pretty cheap.
-Hans
This bug isn't reported entirely correctly, the camera does save pictures but only at the highest resolution. If you try and reduce the res then it doesn't save them. To be fair though if you really want a camera on your phone get a sony ericsson as HTC cameras are rubbish! Perhaps the fact that Tom is working on a new ROM suggests that he is going to implement all the fixes found for v4.0 in the new one therefore creating a fixed ROM... just a thought.
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@ MaskedMarauder: For some people not being able to save the pic as a contact pic isn't the end of the world. Thusfar the B&B rom has been working fine with a few minor bugs.
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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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Right, of them is about 75% who refuse to read the first 1000+ posts, so they ask the same questions others have asked and resolved before, the other ones are in my opinion mostly pretty minor or feature requests.
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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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Equally a lot of the posts are people who haven't search for an answer or don't know how to flash a rom to their device.
I'll admit that tom's rom isn't faultless but compared to the dire GPRS issues in the Dopod rom and the general lack of anything exciting in the O2 rom it is still the best out there - unless of course you want your camera to work
The whole thing with the camera is a shame as the new camera looked nice with a clean interface, it is just a pity it does not work on anything but the basic setting.
And for the record the reason I gave up on B&B 4 was that I was having to continually hard-reset my device at least every other day. I did not go on about it, I just will wait the next version, put it on and see if it works.
I agree with MaskedMarauder
bb4 is full of minor faults.
and i just saw that Tom isn't going to repair all those faults.
that's why i go back to version v3.0
the last one that worked like it should have to.
And Tom never reply's when people ask him about the camera problems or other problems.
It's a pity.
Not having the contacts picture facility is not the end of the world and I have made do with the normal camera and save piccies to contacts. There were other niggles on the v4.0 ROM that made me try the v3.7 and the O2 WM6 ROM and I think that the BB v3.7 was the best of the bunch. They all suffered from an inability to turn off the WiFi from the top toolbar and v4.0 needed to have a soft reset to get the GPRS sync started in the morning. So I will reinstall v3.7 and run it for a few days.
I liked the clock face and the contacts, weather and other HTC toys, but could do with a blue colour rather than black (does this only require a .rar file?) and a reliable GPRS sync connection (no issues on WM5 O2 settings).
Keep up the good work.
Fucawi
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Right, of them is about 75% who refuse to read the first 1000+ posts, so they ask the same questions others have asked and resolved before, the other ones are in my opinion mostly pretty minor or feature requests.
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yes, i totally agree, it's not fine to read such a big thread...
and some of the issues have nothing to do with the main post.
that's what i don't like. There are a lot of people who don't know that there is a "search"-function
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There are a lot of people who don't know that there is a "search"-function
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It also has to do with people not knowing how the search function works too and getting so many hits across all the forums that they give up with it.
I wish all the customs roms that chefs cook up were this easy to do. I was reading on the forum last night about this and came across the cab file version of this install. Its soo easy its pathetic. by the way i have Att Tilt 2 stock rom windows.v.72001a(or somethin) windows mobile 6.5 manilla v.2.1. doing this install made me realize two things. How fast att actually can be at times. this was basically a 90mb. file. I downloaded it with opera mobile 10 on regular service in like 5 mins. Thats pretty fast to me for a phone. i can just imagine if i used opera mini but mini doesnt let store files downloaded to your storage card. which is still cool because cut and paste puts it wherever u want. Second thing i noticed is how much more Informative this forum is. That google android cab is a brilliant piece of work. i dont know how they exactly did it but it works pretty damn good to be not the final version yet. i was skeptical doing this type of modding, since it is complex and looks like your rom being reflashed or something..lol i was like ohhh lord, what i do now..lol but to much surprise, just like the instructions say, it loaded flawlessy, basically. Knowing me, i tried testing all the capabilities of it seeing how far itll let me go. I like the android set up and interface. There are still some things i noticed wasnt working yet. like the wifi. or the keyboard light doesnt come on. it still works though. i havent tried the bluetooth yet. i didnt like that my programs didnt carry over but no biggie since i guess its another format or something the phone is running. Its really cool how the install kicks windows or liniux off and boots up this android rom or whatever. they say its not an emulator or a full blown rom. seems like one to me by how good it works. Also the g sensor needs better way to calibrate. it doesnt rotate really like it should or not fast enough. When u on this though, u are limited to whats on this install. Meaning only using the programs that come on it. Knowing me, i tried going to the app store to see if itll let me download some prgrams. i got all the way to the end pressing download and an error came up on the screen. Maybe its not set up yet in this version to let u add android programs and stuff. which wouldve been insane. But hey, this is free. I definitely have to say how talented the people are that put this together. This is just like running any program really. and when i want go back to windows mobile or touch flo, just soft reset and bam, u back no problems. the first time installing is the longest, not too long though. any time after that, it boots up faster since all folders and whateva were already made. So after soft rest, i can just load it up anytime with the Haret icon just like i would load up Opera Mini. Thats just too cool. Ima fool my friends telling them i got new AnDroid Phone from HTC to mess wit their heads. Im definitely gonna read up alot more on these threads and see if any way to load or download android programs. i wanted the free opera mini 5 one so badly but error came up. force out or something. all in all, Im really liking the setup and the widgets. plus u can change backgrounds with preloaded ones, which seem high quality. just as clear as on tf3d with hdwalls. Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to rant and let any skeptical people with Tilt 2 like mines know this is One Install You definitely want to check out. I still have to test somemore on how far the capabilities go when in android mode. Ill keep ya posted.
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Good post, but please press enter to break your post up into paragraphs - it makes it much easier to read!
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i gotcha..lol
thanks for the post demandarin
i too am running the htc tilt2 and am rather new to all of this. so it was great to share your experience and concern. so with this android rom you saw that some things are not working. will you let me know when they get all the kinks worked out? please. i am interested. i have my phone dialed in the way i want it now with all that i have learned here, so i dont want to put anything on that doesnt have all the funtionality. so please if you remember hit me back when it is 110percent. thanks!
Doing this install/mod still enables you to use windows. you can now choose which Operating system. if u tired of windows and want to mess around with Android os, then this enables you to. this is still in developement so of course not every single function wrking. its good enough for now. i can make calls, recieve them, go online, go to android app store and download new android programs. I see what you are saying on not wanting to mess up your phone. the install cant get no easier than for this one. basically a new os/ROM without having to flash device. All i do is press Haret exe., like any other program, and it boots XDAndroid up everytime. im still amazed on having it. soon after enough reading and research, i might flash a rom or 2..lol All info needed is right here in the forum. ill keep ya posted, but this is a working version that u can text and make calls, etc...im glad i downloaded it.
Hey all, Ive been thinking about what i miss about my pre, and besides the obvious wireless charging (one can dream, right) touchstone, the one other thing i miss the most is the glowing of the trackball device at the bottom of the phone for a notification.
Now i know there are many people who have WIMAX Notifier and will say to use that, but i really dont like it as much as a more behind the scenes and clean look, and W.N. keeps crashing and is really buggy.
My app idea would incorporate the 4 buttons at the bottom using different patterns for different notifications.
Ex:
Text: Glow all 4 slow
Email: Run from right to left back to right and repeat. (8 secs for one rotation)
Missed call: Glow only home
etc.
I searched and was not able to find anyone in the developing stages of an app for this. I would be more than happy to assist with the coding, but i have no programs or anything downloaded so far, and dont really have any idea what im doing, though i do know C, Java, & C++ a bit and can learn coding quickly.
Any idea on if this could be made to work, im pretty sure there has to be a way the light sensor sends a signal to the mocrocontroller to light the keys, but can it be done independently, outside of that code section? Any words of where to start with development of this app?
Thanks for the advice, please keep it relavent and to the point, i would REALLY like to make this a reality. Also please link me to any current development on this if you can find any.\
PS. I have an evo 4g, but i assume this would be a global android app.
PPS. Dont let my 2 post count dissuade you from the ferver i have to make this app a reality. I dont post a ton, but i am very serious about creating/developing this app with some help.
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Hey all, Ive been thinking about what i miss about my pre, and besides the obvious wireless charging (one can dream, right) touchstone, the one other thing i miss the most is the glowing of the trackball device at the bottom of the phone for a notification.
Now i know there are many people who have WIMAX Notifier and will say to use that, but i really dont like it as much as a more behind the scenes and clean look, and W.N. keeps crashing and is really buggy.
My app idea would incorporate the 4 buttons at the bottom using different patterns for different notifications.
Ex:
Text: Glow all 4 slow
Email: Run from right to left back to right and repeat. (8 secs for one rotation)
Missed call: Glow only home
etc.
I searched and was not able to find anyone in the developing stages of an app for this. I would be more than happy to assist with the coding, but i have no programs or anything downloaded so far, and dont really have any idea what im doing, though i do know C, Java, & C++ a bit and can learn coding quickly.
Any idea on if this could be made to work, im pretty sure there has to be a way the light sensor sends a signal to the mocrocontroller to light the keys, but can it be done independently, outside of that code section? Any words of where to start with development of this app?
Thanks for the advice, please keep it relavent and to the point, i would REALLY like to make this a reality. Also please link me to any current development on this if you can find any.\
PS. I have an evo 4g, but i assume this would be a global android app.
PPS. Dont let my 2 post count dissuade you from the ferver i have to make this app a reality. I dont post a ton, but i am very serious about creating/developing this app with some help.
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Already been done, go search the apps forum
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PM link? Cant find after hours of searching!
jerryparid said:
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It actually has not been done yet. All that has been done is Flashlight Alerts and WiMax Notifier.
jabbawalkee said:
It actually has not been done yet. All that has been done is Flashlight Alerts and WiMax Notifier.
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Right, which are not clean at all. I want a more subtle item that is similar to the pre functionality.
Thanks for the clarification, ive been looking forever and couldnt find what i was looking for.
I think that is a great idea and would look cool as hell. Try making a quick flash demo to illustrate your idea. I'm with you and can definately visualize it but, maybe others can't. Don't give up, it's a great idea.
Blackcircle said:
I think that is a great idea and would look cool as hell. Try making a quick flash demo to illustrate your idea. I'm with you and can definately visualize it but, maybe others can't. Don't give up, it's a great idea.
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I think it's a FANTASTIC idea having the 4 bottom capacitive buttons blinking/flashing/glowing for notifications. I would definitely pay for this.
The number one thing I miss about my Nexus One (which I sold back in May) is the trackball notifications where it would glow different colors. Getting the 4 bottom buttons to glow/flash would suffice for me. $10 bounty pledged by me!
This would be such an awesome app...
Alright guys it sounds like there is an interest in making this happen. I will start to look into what it will take for the process to begin.
Stage 1: Getting a coding program installed and getting the HTC Sense open source code to start looking into the light sensor callout for hints of making the bottom LED's come on.
I am committed to this one guys! Sounds like there is a definate want for it thus far.
Good luck man...with all the devs have done with this device, I dont see why this wouldnt be possible.
Btw.... shouldnt this thread be in Apps/Themes section?
sent from EVO with XDA app.
This sounds great!
Alright guys, small update, got the software downloaded and the code/sdk for android 2.2. Wasnt motivated enough to put on my nerd hat and get into the code and start searching out the specific lines im looking for. The good news is I have a flow chart laid out for the notification in each scenario.
Gotta figure out how to ensure the program boots on startup and continues working until force closed.
I will be starting with Froyo, and will move it back to 2.1 eventually. My primary focus will be 2.2 on the Evo.
Welp guys i spent 10+ hours this weekend just to figure out that those LED's are only allowed control when the screen is on. This app is not possible without a significantly more experienced developer, who could make the screen control independent of the LED's. Given my little experience this has become too difficult for me to handle. I will sell my idea for free though!
Thanks for trying, would def be awesome if someone could come up with this. My old samsung instinct use to light up the bottom when it had messages, being that it was a samsung as well, I would *think* (i'm not developer) that there are def ppl with the skills to figure this out .... eventually =) thanks for trying....