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Hi all, I've been reading for ages on o2's xda iis or the blue angel and the probs all are having here in the uk but not once have I heard of or seen of anyone having this kind of trouble with the orange m2000. Are there any m2000 owners out there who would like to give some feedback on the issue and let us know if you too are swamped with problems. I personally would like this device to use, but really don't want to go out on a limb when the wind is already blowing. :mrgreen: As far as pda's and phones go, I'm not a whiz and certainly don't want to have to pay for something just to have to do a rom update, as well as take things off that shouldn't be there to start with...like the o2 rubbish I keep reading about. I'm thinking I'd be better off with a nokia 6630 or maybe the o2 xda ii i, but then, I have never been fond of nokias, and don't want to use a stylus all the time... the 2s would have been the answer (I think), or it is the only one that's really appealed to me in function and looks...so now I'm wondering what about an orange m2000, unlocked, using on o2...can you get manual settings to surf the net? any problems with the 2000?
I've got the M2000 and it has exactly the same problems as all the other Blue Angel's, it's just less popular (party cause Orange don't tell anyone they sell it).
I'm now waiting for Orange to send me a replacement because mine is fastly becoming unusable. It's fine most of the time (aside from the usual problems), but when it crashes, a soft reset doesn't work and I have to remove the SD and the SIM card for up to an hour before I get get it to work again.
I know other people with M2000's who don't have these problems so I've hopefully just got a dodgy phone.
Edited to add that while the M2000 doesn't look as pretty as the XDAIIs, Orange don't put on any of the O2 extra rubbish that O2 do which is good. And the phone can easily be unlocked so you can use it with anyone.
to be honest the only problems that i've ever had with my IIs were all down to the 02 active stuff. once i got rid of that and upgraded to the latest rom (think they all ship with this now anyway) it's been trouble free
I had and XDA IIs which I purchased only 2 weeks ago and it never worked properly. I never even got round to installing any useful software. Twice it hard reset itself while I was opening pictures to send as MMS’s. And I had to soft reset it at least once every day. I even removed the 02 active crap but it was still unstable. The other thing with the IIs is the screen. WHY CHANGE IT! My old one is great but the new one has an awful rancid look and you can’t see it at a slight angle, you have to look straight at it.
I’ve sent it back now and am going to try the IIi in the hope that the faster processor and bigger memory make the device more stable. I’m back to using my XDAII now which I have no trouble with at all, its just old and a bit broken.
m2000
Hi guys, thanks for the response...think I'm going to go with the nokia 6630 for the pic quality, real player, and 3g connection. Might check out the o2 xda ii i, but really wanted a keypad. However, I've got plenty of time to see if there are any bugs in both. have you guys checked out howardforums.com? there is lots of useful stuff on there too. Also, I'm wondering about the o2 magician or xda mini. they say o2 is not releasing them here but they are supposed to be pretty good. anyone know about those?
Well I have both ( and all other versions of XDA's as well.. as we have lots).
I personally prefer the Orange m2000, as we got a free memory card and none of that god awful O2 active built into the rom. Seriously.. that O2 active is such a negative thing to my users. (wake up O2 - the XDA2s / M2000 is geared towards business users with their own apps. they seriously do not need or want a damned instant install popup spam menu.
XDA 4 / M5000 / HTC Universal wont be availble till end September.. So its a case of waiting.. (mines on preorder )
The O2 Active stuff is V.V.Easy to remove so I wouldn't worry about that to much and just go for the device you like the look of the most and can get the best price on
just bought an orange spv c500 and im well impressed.. a little hard to operate at first because of the buttons.. been used to touch screen for so long ive forgoten what buttons are for but it does everything my XDAII can in a smaller package. still trying to sort out the gprs settings because its an oarange phone but apart from that..... o2 canstick the XDAIIs where the sun dont shine. :wink:
btw does anyone know the o2 gprs settings for and orange spv c500?
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Hey, why didn't you send me a pm? You're not gonna believe this. Was on ebay the other night and got a c500 myself. Figured why not give it a shot as I'm familiar with the spv, and also know a lot about the e200, but know nothing about the c500. A guy I work with has 2 e200's, 1 has a switchboard problem and the other, is working on a switchboard problem. I figured out the settings for the spv as well as the spv e200.. Have you ever heard of Modaco.com? go there... look for gprs settings repository or something like that. Loads of settings are there...but the catch is, you have to mess around with them and tweak them to make them work, but it can be done. took me 3 weeks one time of thinking, and pulling my hair out...but eventually was accomplished. This guy that has 2, one is on orange and the other is on o2. The c500 might be different, but if you are willing to work on it with me...so am I. I'll have to send the phone to HTC first to get it fixed as it has a cracked screen (lcd) and outer, but apart from that it's perfect. This is strange...but cool. I think....
Ok, so overall not impressed with the BA. It clearly has some serious issues... but I never expected this!
I noticed today that when the screen is on (ie. during a phonecall) my handset now makes a high pitched whistling noise emmitting from the screen!! It's audiable from a good 2.5 feet away and is horribly annoying!
Anyone else had this problem/found a solution? If someone could check to see if they all do it I would be very appreciative
-Mike
Yes, I had exactly the same problem. After various emails and telephone calls I sent it back to my distributor (expansys) and they sent it to Dubai. Exactly 4 weeks later it came back with a brand new screen.
Don't get too excited though, as the whistle came back after about 6 weeks. Just got used to it now. :evil:
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ROM Version 1.40.00 WWE
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Bluetooth 1.0.0.3900
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Yeah, I can vouch for you guys here...
I'm currently on handset #3, and into month #5 with my Orange UK Contract. Within a month or so, the whistle comes back, and Orange send me a new phone.
I'm sure they must now have it in their diaries to just ship me a new one!
Thankfully I have Orange's insurance, which means I get new phones... but they've recently changed their T&C to say that I must pay £15.00 to process the exchange.
As far as I'm aware, if the unit is faulty within the first 12 months, it is Orange's obligation with HTC to provide me a new unit, FOC - statutory consumer rights etc? Or is that the first 3 months for an exchange, and 12 months for repair?!
Either way, their insurance (which costs £5/month) has gone down in value for money a LOT now.
R.
Damnit. Mine went today for repair. Apparantly it has to have the same fault three times before 02 will replace it
This truly is the worst handset I ever had for reliability.
Yep same problem here. Started after about a month....not found a cure.
strange, i never had this problem!!!! :?:
does it make any difference with Asia IIs? I haven't had that issue yet. Only issue i have is when the phone is in Vibration mode .. the volume slider starts to vibrate and make a buzzing noise (kinda annoying).
XDA IIs Asia model owners
did any on the XDA IIs owners with asia model ever face this problem? put in ur views!
Yeah, I had the handset just over a month. Maybe its just the odd one has some kinda dodgy component which after about that time has an adverse effect on the screen. Strange, I hate this thing so much but after a day of no PDA I miss it terribly
mike: whats ur country
hi mike,
whats ur country of origin and was ur XDA iis of Asian origin?
Sorry no, It's UK
I've had an O2 XDA IIs for about 3 months, other than it crashing randomly when I got it, it has been absolutely fantastic.
The crashing was fixed by removing the O2 software.
I've had an O2 XDA IIs for about 3 months, other than it crashing randomly when I got it, it has been absolutely fantastic.
The crashing was fixed by removing the O2 software.
Mine also crashes randomly, 02 software or not.
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Mine also crashes randomly, 02 software or not.
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maybe you could try an IMATE rom 1.40 i have this and it solved all the minor problems that i had when i was on the pants o2 rom!!!
Apparently, the whistling we are hearing is from the backlight circuit.
I can't remember whether the BA uses fluorescent or elctroluminescent devices for backlight, but if you listen to almost ANY EL device (mp3 players, watches, etc) you will find they, too, eminate a slight whistle.
The emphasis, however, is on _SLIGHT_.
It's due to the high-frequency AC power that is used to give the glow - what we're hearing is the oscillator... well... oscillating.
That is (so I'm told) the technical blurb - and I've listened to all my other EL things I own, and yes, they do whistle too, very very quietly.
So - whistling BA owners - we have FAULTY DEVICES. :-(
R.
Wowzers you know your stuff. My whistling was immediately noticable when it first started and from a distance so it's defo not slight lol.
Cheers for the technical Jargon! I'll use it as ammuntion in the 02 shop when I try to trade this for a 2i
i spent 10min listening to my screen and another 10min on the phone to test out this theory. no whistling BA's here. maybe it's a bad batch of BA?
So the 02 shop just rang me at home. Apparantly the repair centre has decided that I have damaged the screen and that I have to pay £160 for a new screen or £17.50 to get it sent back unrepaired.
I'm not happy considering I KNOW I didn't damage the handset. If it was sat on the desk not doing it, I didnt move it, then it started doing it then I'd say I had nothing to do with it. I especially don't want to pay £160 to get a screen back which will only start whistling again in a month.
02 are scum.
Hi
Just got off the phone with Orange as the replacement phone they sent me also has the "no sound in call" bug (can not hear other party without soft reset)
They said, that as far as they are aware, there is no known fault with this Phone and no inherrent fault.
The Phone was supplied to me in working order and must have developed a fault after.
Their technicians are not aware of any known issues with "no sound in call" and the manufacturer is not aware of any issues with the SPVM2000.
I said itis well reported on this site, to which they said this is not an XDA it is a SPVM. so it is not relevant.
I said it is the same phone!!
I told them that I was surprised at their repsonse, but I would ask others to see if I am alone in having a Orange SPVM phone that about once a week needs a reset becuse the other party can not be heard.
Please help me. If you are another SPVM2000 user, that has suffered with this fault at any time, please reply, as I will then present them the information, that they can not deny.
Hi,
I have two SPV 2000 from Orange UK and *both* exhibit this problem with the ROM's they were shipped with (one had 1.40 the other 1.31). The one phone has been abandoned by it's user as it's just too unreliable, whilst my phone now has the Wizard WM5 port, and that does work OK (although WM5 has it's own problems).
As we all know this is the most common problem with the BA device - funny how Orange have never heard of it!
Yeah - this happens to me. It happens consistently when you turn bluetooth off. If you do a soft reset all works fine.
great, thats what I needed.
Pity no one else replied.
Ill give it another couple of days.
After this I will present them all the results and maybe a letter from Small claims, as they should not be selling phones they know will fail in service.
Hi everybody.
2 weeks ago my MDA PRO has decided to get DIVING license and rendered itself completely useless. I have taken it to the t-mobile shop since I am still in guarantee period (well I did dry it with the hair dryer)
So t-mobile sent it off to their aftersales department and today they called me and sayd that they are declaring the device Total Loss and that it is not covered by the guarantee since they found evidence of liquid. Anyhow it does not help to argue with the lads there (especially if it is true)
But the reason I am writing this is: I am going to fetch it on monday(I meant the wrek) is there something I could do with it besides taking it apart and looking what's inside? Any suggestions are welcome
suggest it rained on the way to the shop, so that's when it got wet?
I had an ipod go like this a month or two back. Nothing I could do could get it going again, including leaving it in the airing cupboard by the hot water heater for a week.
That sucks! I took out insurance on my o2 EXEC out of fear of that.
they can see on the residu if it was clear water like rain, salt water or water from a pond.
when you have insurrance lose it or maybe they will steal it from you, thieves cant see if it is broken in advance....
good luck :twisted:
No need! My insurance covers accidental damage.
insurance (maybe off topic)
Hi mates,
I was just wondering where you guys get the insurance from. I tried to find one and couldnt get any insurance.
Thank you
H
Ah, I'm with o2's Insurance Gold Monthly package, which I took out when I bought my Universal from them. (As an o2 XDA Executive)
mate easy peasy
ok,get ur pda then post it with postal insurance .post from your workplace to your home,you can say that you went on holiday from work and left your device and a work mate had to post it to your home as you were away
take a pic of it all of before hand and in tact viusaly(you can say he did this pic as the company has had probs in past with damages and its policy to take pics of all fragile goods prior)
when it arrives at home jump up and down in the bugger till its mashed or locate a pic of a mashed pda the exact same
then claim it was done during transit with your postal recipet and pic evidence
cant say i have done it and it works out fine :wink: :wink:
I'll add the Disclaimer:
JaceUK, his wholly- or partly-owned subsidiaries and affilliates take no responsability for anything that happens to your device while undergoing these procedures. Do NOT try this at home, I repeat: Do NOT try this at home.
No really, Don't.
OK guys...
I have gone today to pick up the wreck and tmobile has made me an offer I gould not resist. My subscription has another year to go till sept. 2007, so if would prolong my subscription for another year they in the same rate plan they were prepared to give me an MDA Vario for free. Of course I took the offer.
Then when I cam home and was setting up my MDA Vario and waiting for the sync to finish I opened my broken MDA-PRO which had a huge yeloow sticker on it saying that there is oxidation found indside and that this device is unrepeirable... What do you thing I hit the power button and the device woke up battery was low I loaded it and the device is still running. All my data was intact. Thank god it did not happen in the store...
Anyhow I am going to see how long it works.... keep you posted
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
THAT is brilliant.
Now for goodness sakes insure them!
I know isn't it?
I was with a friend who actually was the first one to notice that the device works in the store and he was shouting: "It Works, It Works" I almost shot him... Luckily the clerk was bussy with something else and did not hear
But it is absolutely Brilliant
Oh And I have also an official Letter from T-Mobiel that states that my device is a total loss and is beyond repair
Churchill said:
Oh And I have also an official Letter from T-Mobiel that states that my device is a total loss and is beyond repair
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LOL...Lucky you, My friend also had a MDA Vario that fell in a puddle and he dried it out and the next day it started working again. Guess there is hope hahaha
OK..
The device is working and I think I am going to keep the big yellow sticker saying that there is OXIDATION found in the device and that it is unrepeairable LOL
Anyhow the battery is screwed up, it depleetes too fast. After a 1 minute long phonecall to my voicemail I am down from 90% to 60% so this can not be good.
ANYBODY who's Universal died and they can not revive it PLEASE let me have your battery....
if you think it's worth it, but yourself a new exec battery, can't be that expensive. So which one are you going to carry around now? The more powerful but semi-reliable Pro or the mediocre Vario? >:>
Churchill said:
OK..
The device is working and I think I am going to keep the big yellow sticker saying that there is OXIDATION found in the device and that it is unrepeairable LOL
Anyhow the battery is screwed up, it depleetes too fast. After a 1 minute long phonecall to my voicemail I am down from 90% to 60% so this can not be good.
ANYBODY who's Universal died and they can not revive it PLEASE let me have your battery....
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That oxidation sticker could mean they saw some corrosion on a power regulator or somesuch which is shorting and killing your battery. I wouldn't use it further, I'd open it and scrub the board with an old toothbrush and some IPA.
This problem is more than your battery IMO but it's cheap enough to buy another to test it out.Lend you battery to another universal owner if you know one and see if it flattens so quickly in their device.
Richard
jaceuk said:
mate easy peasy
ok,get ur pda then post it with postal insurance .post from your workplace to your home,you can say that you went on holiday from work and left your device and a work mate had to post it to your home as you were away
take a pic of it all of before hand and in tact viusaly(you can say he did this pic as the company has had probs in past with damages and its policy to take pics of all fragile goods prior)
when it arrives at home jump up and down in the bugger till its mashed or locate a pic of a mashed pda the exact same
then claim it was done during transit with your postal recipet and pic evidence
cant say i have done it and it works out fine :wink: :wink:
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I got a good luagh from that one. LMAO. "jump up and down in the bugger till its mashed" And that was the best part. Poor lil bugger!!! :twisted:
Well the battery depleetes too fast and the device would not sync on any PC (I have tried 5). So I have opened the device and saw the OXIDATION myself, just like fluffcat1 suggested with a dry tooth brush I have cleaned the whole thing and put it back together, and now everything is perfect, although the battery still depletes too fast.
Since I am between jobs now I am not going to spend money on a battery but simply use the device as a navigation system. I got the Brodit holder and all. So this is going to be a great navigation, large screen...
Already installed the latest AKU 3.2 ROM and installed TT5 with ! GB SD card completely full wit the maps of most of the wester Europe. From now on I am going to keep the thing in the car so my wife does not have to complain about the small screen of the TT5 on her Nokia 6680. Sounds like a perfect situation.
I still have the MDA Vario (which I aplanning to give to my little brother) and the QTEK 8500. Plus in the end of september I can prolong my subscription and get myself the long awaited TyTn or MDA Vario II (does anyone know when will it be available from T-Mobile Netherlands?
So my earpiece has gone.
Not crackly, not distorted, just nothing - silence.
It was fine a couple of days ago and now it's completely dead.
The phone hasn't been dropped (well, tossed on a mattress/duvet when I'm heading to bed but not onto anything hard and from no great height), I haven't tempted fate by submerging it, I've properly nursed this phone and it's still died on me.
The one thing that I did do between it working and today was flash a different ROM.
I'm just wondering whether there's any chance that might've had something to do with it?
I went from '3.4.2 131-003' to '3.4.2-155-2'.
I know it's a long shot but that couldn't possibly be the cause, could it?
Many people have already complained about that problem (just google it!), return the phone (if your warranty isn't void because of the flashing, but i think it only affects software warranty), and they'll get you a new one. As far as I know, the newly produced defys don't have that defect anymore, mine - which I bought a couple of weeks ago - works just fine (fingers crossed!).
I'm aware that it's a known issue, I was asking because it seems that normally the earpiece gets crackly then dies whereas mine has gone from absolutely fine to completely dead in a couple of days with no usage in-between and the fact it happened after I flashed a new ROM seems coincidental to say the least.
As for the warranty, I have flashed ROMs, so fingers crossed.
same problem
I've the same problem.. no crackling, total silence. yesterday it worked perfectly fine, but since today no sound at all.
didn't do anything weird with it; flashed another froyo rom one week ago, but I can hardly imagine it has something to do with it...
I red there were more persons with a earpiece problem, but I couldn't find anyone who's got total silence from one moment to another..
is there info about this issue?
greetz
mine has gone from working to total silent the way mine was crackly was if i blew into it, it would work sometimes but now nothing at all i need to get a replaceable but dnt ave time
The problem is due to a bad connection, so I suppose it is possible it would break cleanly, going from working to silence with no interference/crackling.
I was just hoping I could fix it myself without having to rely on the Motorola warranty lottery
The fix-it-yourself thread is here. It's easily done if you are even mildly practical. I have sourced 2 SE K850i earpieces as a hedge against the future, once I'm out of warranty.
However, I am currently in warranty, so I sent an email regarding my Defy to Motorola as soon as my earpiece started acting-up. I tried to demand a replacement on the grounds that they were offering for sale devices that they knew were defective. Unfortunately, they were adamant that a repair was my only option so I sent my phone to their centre. I followed their advice, backing up, removing SIM and SD card, performing factory wipe from within Settings/Location & Security, and only sending the phone.
My phone had a custom ROM with the "android" text boot-loader so it was obviously not stock but there have been no complaints from them and I'm able to track my phone through their system. It's been repaired and is in "final testing". I'm expecting it back early next week.
Given the perceived "openness" of android, it would be a PR disaster for Motorola to void the hardware warranty on the grounds of software modification.
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So my earpiece has gone.
Not crackly, not distorted, just nothing - silence.
...
The one thing that I did do between it working and today was flash a different ROM.
I'm just wondering whether there's any chance that might've had something to do with it?
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mmm, i have something to say ... i flashed lots of different roms, two weeks ago i went back to China 0.26, still one of the best in terms of performance BUT, i had some trouble with the earpiece.
The first time it happened i thought "ok my earpiece has gone", it was just silent, people could hear me and i could hear nothing. Surprisingly after a reboot the earpiece was working, then silence again the day after... so on for 3 - 4 times.
Then i flashed the 3.4.2-155 and the problem disapperead. No failure, no silence, after 10 days it still works.
So, could it be the problem was related to that specific rom or software i used?
Btw, did you try to flash back to your previous rom?
I got same issue last week, and my mobile operator change my phone by a new one.
It's a know pb with first MB525 products.
After flashing did-you remove back door and battery to power off/power on you phone ?
I think when we do that, we push on the back of phone and so increase earpiece failure risk.
Thanks, I'd seen that thread before but I'm still well inside my warranty and have no urge to risk voiding it any more than I potentially already have.
I have no qualms about having to send the phone back to Motorola, I just want to be sure it'll be fixed when I do is all.
It's a shame that Motorola don't allow third-parties to fix the handsets - I know an engineer that works for one of the UK high street mobile phone retailers and he says that any earpiece issues, they have to send the phones back to Motorola themselves, they can't even source the necessary parts.
If they could fix it, I wouldn't think twice about the ROM as I know he couldn't care less, he'd get it sorted for me.
technome said:
Given the perceived "openness" of android, it would be a PR disaster for Motorola to void the hardware warranty on the grounds of software modification.
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Also, since the issue is known to be purely hardware and there are plenty of cases of it afflicting handsets that are entirely stock, they would leave themselves in a very shaky legal situation.
Personally, I think I'd prefer to have my current handset repaired instead of replaced as it seems to be a little gem in terms of battery life.
As for the warranty, I doubt I'll have this phone for more than a year or so.
Part of the reason I chose it was the excellent deal on the T-Mobile contract I'm on meaning that if I get the urge to 'upgrade' early, I won't feel bad about buying a second phone out of my own pocket.
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Btw, did you try to flash back to your previous rom?
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No I haven't.
I only discovered the problem at work this afternoon and started this thread as soon as I got home.
I might give it a go over the weekend but part of me can't really be bothered, I might just send it away.
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MisterWB said:
I got same issue last week, and my mobile operator change my phone by a new one.
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UK law only gives a customer a limited period after purchasing during which they can demand a replacement, after that a retailer is entitled to try and repair a faulty item if it is reasonable to do so.
Only if repairing the phone is in some way unsuccessful would the customer then be entitled to a replacement.
Sorry to hear that.
Let us know if Moto honor the warranty. It's very unreasonable to void hardware warranty just because of software modification.
My defy earpiece failed after 4 weeks. I had the orange 2.2 on the phone. Sent it to solidvision (they do warranty repair for motorola phones in belgium and netherlands). 3 weeks later they sent me a new phone, under warranty. On other sites I read that motorola doenst make a problem about earpiece issue even when you flashed other firmware.
So I handed my handset in to be sent away for repair on the 21st of March.
On the 18th of April I contacted CPW's repairs department to query where my handset was at 28 days had elapsed. The guy I spoke to raised a £10 voucher on their systems and put some sort of trace on it for me.
And on the 21st I was contacted by the store I'd handed my phone into to say it was back.
When I say 'it was back', it's not the same handset I sent away - it's a 'clearance' replacement handset. Thankfully my mate who works for CPW checked the handset's history on their systems and it's not a refurb, it was sat in a store for a month without being sold, then recalled to the warehouse so they had one to send to me.
I just hope this 'new' handset has as good a battery life as the one they kept...