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Faulty Desire? Safe Mode and button problem

Hi all,
My missus has a UK T-Mobile Desire, it is bog standard, not been updated with a new rom or even Froyo. Today it showed the Android boot loader and then when it eventually decided to boot it seemed to be stuck in Safe Mode and the Home, Menu and Back buttons don't work.
I'm not sure what might have caused this, it's been running fine.... would a hard reset possibly fix the problem?
Thanks

if you havn't done anything to the phone, return it and get a new one just back up all your things to outlook or gmail or whatever you prefer and you are ready for a new Desire
hope this helps! good luck!

Yeah fortunately there is the return option...
Another thing about two weeks ago the Facebook Friends Stream Widget apparently stopped working for no apparent reason, I don't know if this and the bottom problem is linked...
I'll backup all her contacts etc later and try a hard reset then if necessary speak to T-mobile tomorrow.
Thanks

Tried a hard reset tonight and that made no difference. But playing with the buttons on boot and the phone booted normally..... all the buttons fully operational
Didn't last for long though.... the phone locked and I had to remove the battery.... guess what - SAFE MODE
Holding down the four buttons prevents the Safe Mode words displaying but the four buttons still don't work. I am going to call T-mobile tomorrow and see what they say.

Very angry indeed... outcome of me sending the phone to HTC... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8133471&postcount=32
Any advice would be really welcomed.

omg i just saw the email in the link
****ing outrageous
i had so much trouble with HTC when i had the HD2 but after enough arguing over the phone and threatening them with the sales of goods act they played fair and not only repaired the HD2 but gave me the Desire and a better contract.
how long have you had the phone for?
if you've had it for less than 6 months then phone T-Mobile and demand a new phone because it is covered under that law. That's right, T-Mobile, not HTC, because your contract is with them and it is up to them to supply you with a working phone for the contract agreement and the act states that these goods must last a certain period of time. So phone them up and tell them.
http://whatconsumer.co.uk/the-sale-of-goods-act/
EDIT: read them line by line this:
http://whatconsumer.co.uk/how-long-should-it-last/

To be honest with you I would have sent it to Tmobile and let them deal with HTC. When you bought the handset you entered into a contract with the retailer for the warranty, not the manufacturer. This is not the airtime contract I'm talking about by the way, that is a seperate issue.
I think you should get on to Tmobile about this and tell them you want it sorted asap. You can also contact Consumer Direct by clicking HERE. They will advise you on what your rights are and how to sort your problem out.
You should also look at getting a report from HTC to state exactly what they say the cause of damage was. At least then you will know what you are up against.

I called T-mobile earlier today to tell them what had happened... I was routed through to a call centre in Asia. The person was helpful to an extent... listened... went away... and returned and said that if the Manufacturer said the the phone is damaged and not covered by warranty then there is nothing they can do.
They suggested I take the phone into a T-mobile shop and pay for an exchange (yeah right!). I quoted the SOGA stuff and they have now said that a manager would call me back in 24 hours - the operator could not put me through to a manager nor could my call be re-routed to a UK based agent.
So at this stage I'm no better off really.
I have since heard back from HTC... and a rather abrupt message that I am not happy about... they have also taken two images that I assume shows "damage" there is no explanation with the pictures though...
One image shows a small white stick that half of which has turned red, another shows the motherboard and some circuitry and a small arrow pointing to it.. it looks fine to my untrained eye. Assuming it is damaged in some way is it possible that this is linked to moisture or as there have been issues with Desire motherboards could this be the same thing?
If anyone wants to see the images then I will email them...
Here is the content of the message and my reply however:-
From HTC:
Here are two images of the broken handset there are some more if you want some, as the phone is out of warranty you either pay the quote have the phone returned un-repaired or if you don't respond to the quote the phone will be discarded 30 days.
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My reply:
I have viewed the images and am unclear what exact "damage" exists, I will need this to be described fully in a report that summarises the exact nature and extent of any damage and repair required. I assume that the red label indicates the existence of moisture however is it not possible that this could have been activated due to ambience or humidity?
Under the Sale Of Goods Act, any fault that develops within the first six months of a product being sold is deemed to have been present at the time of sale. Since owning the phone, no incident that I am aware of has occurred that would give rise to the damage you say has been discovered, so the Sale Of Goods Act would come in to force. T-Mobile provided the phone in a sealed box, so I do not see how the damage could be down to them and as the ultimate supplier of the phone, I would have to hold you responsible for the sale of defective goods. Under the terms of the Act, it IS FOR YOU TO PROVE OTHERWISE or accept the repair or replacement of the phone at your expense.
In addition the handset is not out of warranty, in fact it is only 4 months old. It was also sent to you in a semi functional state - in other words it could be used fully except that just the bottom row of bottoms (excluding the roller) were not working. Can you please confirm that this is still the case should the handset be reassembled and returned.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU, HTC OR ANY PERSON ACTING ON BEHALF OF HTC DISCARD THE HANDSET AS THIS MAY CONSTITUTE A CRIMINAL ACT
I wish to make a formal compliant about the way in which this case has been handled, namely:-
1. I was never told nor did I agree that charges for both repair or return could be charged.
2. I was led to believe that the handset was still within warranty and would be repaired accordingly.
3. I have been told that you must replace items that do not need replacement, such as the LCD screen and the plastic surround which are known to have minor scratches consistent with fair wear and tear.
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Outrageous Story of HTCdev Bootloader Unlocking in Hong Kong and Requiring a Repair

Hey everyone.
So basically, I live in Hong Kong, and there is an official HTC support center.
So I bought an HTC One X from my carrier, and then after a few days, I noticed I had a yellow spot, but before I detected this problem, I already went on HTCdev and unlocked my bootloader. So I called up HTC HK and talked to a guy, he insisted that I am able to fix it for free. Now, don't ask me why my carrier didn't take it in, they said I must bring it to HTC support center in Yau Ma Tei because it was beyond the 7 day in-store exchange warranty.
I sent my phone in the first time because of the screen issue, and it took about a week. They called me and said, that they are unable to replace the entire device because I unlocked the bootloader, telling me it will cost HKD 1800, and I said, NO! I sent it in because of the screen and not the motherboard! They replaced my phone's screen only, and not the entire device. So when I got my phone back, I had the exact motherboard which said "RELOCKED" and my Serial number matched up with my old one. So they had their hands digging through my 12 day old phone. I checked my phone for other defects, and wouldn't you know it, I found out ANOTHER problem on my screen, yellow spots appeared somewhere else as well as either a dead pixel was located in the middle of the screen, or a speck of dust, I'm not sure. So I yelled at them, and they took it back in.
The second time I sent it in, as I said before, was because of the unidentified dot in the middle of the screen AND the relocated yellow tint on the screen. As they stated before, they said they can't replace the entire device due to the unlocking of the bootloader, so they replaced the screen again. I was told to check the phone, and I found hairline cracks all over the phone. I WAS ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS. All those cracks were due to the repair and poor service, **** SERVICE REPAIR. Okay, I calmed down, I sent it back in, and they said they will replace the housing for me. I was infuriated at the fact that after I told them to repair it for me again, they told me that they will now ask a "Senior Technician" to look over this case, in my head I thought "WHAT THE ****, did you ****ing ask a "Junior technician" to fix this HKD5198 phone?" But I let it all slide, and I got it repaired again.
So yes, the last repair was because the casing was cracked. I took it back in, and was extremely dissatisfied with their repair service. So after listening to all the bull**** they told me AGAIN (voided warranty due to bootloader unlock), I verified my entire phone and checked everything, to make sure everything worked and looked good. I left the place with a fully functioning phone with no yellow spots and unidentified black spots on the screen.
I left the HTC support center, which is a 30 minute ride from my home area (Mid-Levels), and went to my service provider (one2free), I requested to see the senior manager of the company, waited for 15 minutes, and then when I saw him, we requested to speak in a private level of the shop. All staff were forced out of the level, and we started yelling at him. After 45 minutes of constant replies saying "We can't replace your phone directly because firstly, your phone is over the 7 day in-store exchange warranty, and secondly, we need to ask HTC for permission first". At this time, it was around 10pm, and he finally gave in because he was a nice person and we were one of the extreme-VIPs with over 10 unlimited contracts per month (HKD 500/number = HKD5000 a month). After a while, he finally decided to change my phone to the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE phone, which I used for one week. I rooted that phone, and when I restarted CWM recovery, the softkeys broke, even after stock software restore, it was still broken, so they exchanged it for a new phone.
I missed my beloved HTC One X because of the speed and elegancy, so I decided to head over to 3 HK (Hutchison Telecom HK) and my friend took my Samsung Galaxy S II, then helped me get a brand new second batch HTC One X under his number and I was so happy. Flawless to the perfect detail.
That was my story. You guys have any stories on your warranties and HTCdev unlocks? Post below!

That's one hell of a story xD. Good to hear it all turned out well even though you had to go through all that ****. I want to root my phone but because of these stories I don't want to unlock the bootloader...
I have a small yellow dot on the left side of the screen. It's almost not visible only if you look closely on a white background. It doesn't bother me and I could've gotten worse problems so yeah I decided to be happy with this model.

The first post in this thread started on May 2 warned everyone that HTC's no longer providing warranty repairs if they detect a device has had third party s/w loaded on to it. You can unlock the bootloader and still get work done under warranty but you can't load non-official ROMs. There are at least three different threads discussing this and one provides a link to spam HTC's blog in the UK voicing disapproval of the new policy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466

Lol @ you yelling at them
And then taking the manager into a level and kicking the staff out to YELL at the manager aswel lol nice problem solving
They were a crap service and didn't help you much but after you kicking staff out of a level to yell at the manager
Don't expect the manager to help you out much even if you are "VIP" and you go off at the manager hes going to think your an arse and just find the fastest way to get rid of you
I used to work for a service provider in back end and the staff from front desk would always come out to the back and the first thing they'd say is "some prick just went off at me" and if its something that particular staff member didn't do and it was another staff members fault your name and "your a prick gets passed" around the office and nobody will want to help
The best way, is just let whoever your speaking to, know that youre not happy with the service your getting and that you're not actually angry at THAT person your speaking to
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Sounds like the device was fixed under warranty. His complaints are that he had to travel 30 minutes and ask more than once for repair.
He wanted a replacement device after voiding the warranty, but didn't want to pay for it, so they replaced the screen under warranty (twice?). And then the casing.
You can't please everybody.

I had a screen problem too but not a yellow spot. If i change the brightness to full and use a black wallpaper you can see a blue spot in the middle of the screen. This is my second HOX after i returned the first one through my carrier in australia because of screen flex and cracking and it took 2 weeks.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

how typical hk person OP is. (I am from HK as well, we are also known as the complain society)
voiding the warranty with htcdev before getting a replacement phone.
doesn't want to pay for repair even though the warranty is voided.
screaming and yelling...
A VIP expecting best services because his is an expensive phone (they use the more experienced to fix more complicated issues, not based on the phone price)
and then break yet another phone lol
Can't say I feel sorry about what happened to you :S

BarryH_GEG said:
The first post in this thread started on May 2 warned everyone that HTC's no longer providing warranty repairs if they detect a device has had third party s/w loaded on to it. You can unlock the bootloader and still get work done under warranty but you can't load non-official ROMs. There are at least three different threads discussing this and one provides a link to spam HTC's blog in the UK voicing disapproval of the new policy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631466
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Read the entire forum post a few days ago. I sent the device in with a relocked bootloader with the stock RUU reinstalled in it. I know that there was no "illegal software" (as they called it in the other port) present on the device when I sent it in 3 times.
anfozy said:
They were a crap service and didn't help you much but after you kicking staff out of a level to yell at the manager
Don't expect the manager to help you out much even if you are "VIP" and you go off at the manager hes going to think your an arse and just find the fastest way to get rid of you
I used to work for a service provider in back end and the staff from front desk would always come out to the back and the first thing they'd say is "some prick just went off at me" and if its something that particular staff member didn't do and it was another staff members fault your name and "your a prick gets passed" around the office and nobody will want to help
The best way, is just let whoever your speaking to, know that youre not happy with the service your getting and that you're not actually angry at THAT person your speaking to
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In Hong Kong, one2free/CSL 1O1O is the most "luxurious" and "prestigious" carriers out there for business and high-end markets, so they state. In theory they are supposed to give out good handsets and not flawed ones. Every handset could be flawed and the manufacturers don't want it to be flawed, but the fact that they had the policy of 7 day in-store exchange and I detected it one day after, is just stupid.
But, I know, we weren't actually actually mad at the person we were talking to, he was just trying to help. The other person who was actually furious was because of the phone. We resulted in a happy ending anyways, and that guy told him he wasn't angry at him, rather he was just angry at the service HTC had to provide. We're not that cold hearted you know
I understand where you're going where you said that reasoning is the best way to handle these types of situations, but then it also requires a bit of yelling, and I'll talk about it below.
BenPope said:
Sounds like the device was fixed under warranty. His complaints are that he had to travel 30 minutes and ask more than once for repair.
He wanted a replacement device after voiding the warranty, but didn't want to pay for it, so they replaced the screen under warranty (twice?). And then the casing.
You can't please everybody.
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Yes, you can't please everybody. But have a think about this: How could a repair center do such a crap job that they had to repair it 3 times consecutively? Did they not do a quality check after they fixed the device? I mean, even if I did want to just replace the screen, they should have done it more professionally, not break the casing while repairing the screen.
etismyname said:
how typical hk person OP is. (I am from HK as well, we are also known as the complain society)
voiding the warranty with htcdev before getting a replacement phone.
doesn't want to pay for repair even though the warranty is voided.
screaming and yelling...
A VIP expecting best services because his is an expensive phone (they use the more experienced to fix more complicated issues, not based on the phone price)
and then break yet another phone lol
Can't say I feel sorry about what happened to you :S
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We're not really classified as the "complain society", we just have many lazy people working for high-end companies and don't do ****, try to get rid of their assigned jobs as soon as possible and just slack off. Without requesting (yelling) to see the manager, they probably would just lie to you and say "Sorry! The manager is not here". As soon as they know how furious we are, they wouldn't mess with us and they would do their job properly.
Maybe if you lived in Hong Kong long enough and had the experience of poor service everywhere, you would know that yelling at them to get them to do something is the only way to get what you want.
If we didn't yell at them, they wouldn't have even prioritized this problem and just told us to leave with a broken phone because of a manufacturing defect on the phone THEY supplied.
This message is just to warn people that if you unlock your bootloader in Hong Kong, and you need a repair, they will repair, and not exchange, as many times as you want.
Hong Kong is a good place, but filled with lazy people due to the current social pressures. Let's say you try reasoning with them, without demanding them to look at your current VIP status, they would LITERALLY just ignore you, and tell you that they won't be able to replace it for you.
When you said "A VIP expecting best services because his is an expensive phone (they use the more experienced to fix more complicated issues, not based on the phone price)", I know where you're going at, you can't have everything. But try thinking, if you had your phone repaired, and then you knew it was an intern who repaired your phone, you would know it was poorly repaired or not, but most likely as your schemas will tell you that experts are more superior in skill that interns.
To be honest, I was fine with my repaired phone. It was the other guy I was with who had a bad day, and demanded that I go exchange my phone at my carrier. I gave my phone to him and went off looking at other phones, and he was just yelling at them in the private room. I didn't know how they actually got it exchanged, but the reasoning guy was there as well, so I guess after some demand to realize priority in this situation, and then 30 minutes of reasoning, everything worked out fine. I got my phone and left, really without saying a word.

Well, I have to agree that the repairwork sounds shoddy. When they fixed my DesireHD, they did great job in Yau Ma Tei.
And yes, service can be bad here.

Can I ask somethin about that famous yellow screen defect and flex issue?
Is it something that the phone comes with from the first day or is it developed gradually?
I mean, if we know that those are the 2 well-known issues, when we buy our phone we can check it for a couple of days and then root. Now, if the problem will develop later, we are in trouble. I'm waiting mine in a few weeks and that's why I ask.

Actually I am from hk lol
We are one hell of an abusive customer is king society.
I worked in service sector for half and it is insanely difficult to please any customers.
People asking for special favors or deals because they are buying expensive items.
I know that sometimes it feels like you have to get the situation serious for them to do anything. But most often when you have to go that far, you are disturbing other customer's who are being serviced.
The manager resolved to those solutions (such as giving a replacement phone when warrenty is void) is actually to shut you up asap. You aren't meant to get repair or replacement once warrenty is void (or so I think it is anyway).
Now that you or your fd has got it, you would feel it is their fault at the start for not just giving you one.
But you ain't supposed to have one.
So don't call them ridiculous, or need to yell to get them do something.
Generally these cases are out of standard routine and not fair for other customers
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

As stated, I did all this at night, in a special room. No other customers were there, it was dead quiet.
The point isn't that I voided my warranty. It is half of what I'm saying. We were upset of the job HTC did to repair my phone. And obviously its not like they didn't take my phone because of the warranty void, it was that we wanted to exchange a defective phone 12 days after purchase, 5 days beyond in-store exchange. Even 3 has a 14 day in-store replacement service, why does 1O1O only have 7? That's what I'm saying. Hong Kong carriers don't really give a damn if you unlocked your bootloaders, they don't know how to even check, its only the HTC service center that does this.
The point is, I am supposed to be issued a replacement if the phone THEY supplied had a defect and I had to go exchange it three times. They didn't care for bootloader unlocks, they just cared for their stupid 7 day in-store warranty and their lack of support after that.
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SGS2 LTE rooted or not?
Dear Nicholas,
I have been doing exhilarating research about rooting these days because the information available for my phone is a little confusing, really. So I'm quite anxious about making mistakes and all, you know ;-) and getting into trouble like yours.
Now you have just briefly mentioned here that:
nicholaschum said:
After a while, he finally decided to change my phone to the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE phone, which I used for one week. I rooted that phone, and when I restarted CWM recovery, the softkeys broke, even after stock software restore, it was still broken, so they exchanged it for a new phone.
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I just got a new GT-I9210 LTE and the rooting information is very confusing everywhere, people using Skyrocket ROMs and such claiming they're the same, but many saying the soft keys broke. Apparently this particular model doesn't have a solid community of users like Nexus or others. So I'm quite anxious about making mistakes and all, you know ;-)
And I happened to come across your post in another thread titled "[Q] Samsung Galaxy S II LTE Root [SOLVED]" from May 9, where you said that you successfully rooted SGS2 LTE (your mentioned specs exactly match mine) and your soft keys and everything works perfectly.
Now, I'm not trying to catch you out or anything, I was very excited when I found your instructions there first but I am just wondering, is this the same phone you are talking about here and there?
I would like to follow your method if it really worked.

Bootloader relocked, can I claim warranty?

Well, I guess my One X isn't perfect.
When I first got it, I didn't look for the flaws, I just checked that the Wi-Fi is ok and there was no ripples, so I unlocked it and flashed ARHD. But, after few days of usage I was shocked after I pressed the screen a bit harder (not VERY hard, just a bit harder because I stumbled upon some HOX screen creaking issue videos) and it started creaking in the upper corners and you can push the screen further into the casing (upper side) like it's on some kind of springs. Note: It was in a case since day 1, never fell because I treat it like a baby, I've had it for around a week. Now, I relocked bootloader and got everything back to stock. I never flashed custom kernels nor tried to overclock it/undervolt it. Plus, it NEVER got hot, after playing some more intensive (THD) games it got SLIGHTLY warm, you could barely feel it. So it is deffinitely assembly issue. My question is, can I claim warranty? Because I bought this phone in Germany (1&1) and I'm from Croatia, so I would have to ship it to Germany first. Or should I take it to repair shop so they fix the screen because it's perfect in every other way? It's model SH26.
Thanks very much.
Regards.

Well, I would say that it depends on the engineer who examine your phones. However, they always knew that you are unlocked and they have the right to void your warranty if they detemine it was caused by mis-used of custom ROM/kernels or else. Since, this is a assembly issue which was not consequences of unlocking. I can said that you are safe from this.
I adviced you get to HTC directly instead of a repair shops and query to HTC croatia asking wether they accept your device or not. For you interest, I heard that international warranty was apply my One X from a local retailer while my device is brought from neighbour country.

Either its hardware fault or not if ur device is unlocked they can refuse the repair under warranty. i have asked the same thing and they told me that if you unlocked it u cant use ur warranty.i said all the stuff about its not my fault or unlocking and its by manufacture but no luck. so i guess it depends ur rights that ur country provides .In Uk you can claim hardware fault in court.

Sounds like a shoddy products.

Yup, had to admitted the warranty may go as per country basis refering local laws. I don't think many asian countries deserves the rights for requesting changes/rejecting a device in 7 days without giving any reason as in UK. Thus, this may be why there are more strict on this unlocking issue in UK.

I sent my HOX (unlocked) for repair directly to HTC due to faulty earpiece jack.
They returned it to me fixed, and with a new and better battery.
HTC didn't charge me a cent.

Ive installed ARHD recently and a few hours after i noticed my screen making creaking and popping noises when pressed. Not sure what i should do about it, it doesnt bother me that much but if my screen falls out ill be slightly annoyed ;p. Surely they have to replace/fix the phone because this is a hardware issue?

Guess I was extremely lucky. Having heard of many defective devices, I began to worry about mine, and, to my surprise, there was no problems i could detect.

That's because generally people only shout about things that don't work. The happy folks with good phones are much quieter.

Rusty! said:
That's because generally people only shout about things that don't work. The happy folks with good phones are much quieter.
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True,i haven't had a single problem with my HOX.When it was first released many people complained about the flickering screen,after that with the memory loss problem,now with the new 2.17 update alot of people are having problems with the wifi,and even so,i don't have any problem with the phone.
ON Topic:In my country if you unlock your bootloader the waranty is completly void,a friend of mine had problems with the phone microphone and they denied his waranty,had to pay to repair the HOX.

This may not be the greatest tip to give, but if you know that they will reject warranty claims (If you are in the UK, etc...) on the basis of bootloader unlock, it might be possible to bypass the issue by just bricking the phone to the point that you cannot get to the bootloader, because it seems they determine warranty status by going to the bootloader and looking at the screen.
Hence, no bootloader screen to check, no evidence that warranty was broken.
Of course this is quite shady and if you have the means you should pay for the warranty repairs.

...or realise (UK, etc.) that your statutory rights are not affected. Which is why they are "statutory".

It's hard to tell, some users reporting that they've been charged for a new motherboard prior to fixing any issues. Until then they won't touch the device. It varies from country to country and individual on the other end.
If you got it from a carrier maybe try sending it to them and bypassing HTC.
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Im in the uk, does anyone know if they will or wont fix my phone? Also do they fix the phone or replace it?

MadCatz900 said:
Im in the uk, does anyone know if they will or wont fix my phone? Also do they fix the phone or replace it?
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Depends on the problem, but usually a fix is possible/cheaper for them.
On the UK, your statutary rights stand with the retailer. If you're unlocked (relock it) take it to them.

Great news, my One X is back and It's fixed. Big ups for HTC Germany!
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Wifi + Bluetooth not enabling anymore

Dear Forum Members,
I don't know what to do anymore. I am at your mercy. Tried everything I can. Can't seem to solve it myself.
I bought me Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 SM-T800 1 1/2 years ago and was extremely happy with it. Everything worked like a dream. I rooted it after a few weeks because I wanted to get a network going. No problems at all. A few days ago I turned it on and I didn't have any Wifi and Bluetooth was also not turned on. I don't use Bluetooth but it was on at default. I tried working with my router, modem, you name it, it wasn't my connection, so then I tried the tablet itself. Some people said it was SideSync, so I removed that, didn't do anything. I was still using android 4.4.2 so I installed 5.0.2 unrooted and that didn't do anything. After that I wiped everything and went to factory default, no difference. In the end, I looked everywhere, even removed the back panel to see if a connection was loose but everything looks fine. I did another clean install from a firmware installed from the Samsung website to make sure and still, same problem.
I rooted the device, so my warranty is gone.
I don't know what to do now. I use the tablet a lot but mostly online but can't anymore.
I would be very grateful if someone could help. This tablet means a lot to me. My little Sammy :crying:

Nobody?
Edit: Have tried starting in safe mode and nothing changes.
It did work one morning for like half an hour for some reason. Very strange. Then it stopped working again. It does now sometimes show some networks in the area and bluetooth does work sometimes but it wifi and bluetooth disconnects immediately if you connect.

I was in the same situation as you. I ended up sending my device into Samsung for warranty repair. I sent out it last week, and I received it back Tuesday afternoon. Crazy thing was, when they sent it back, there was no paperwork in the box. *Yikes*

statustray said:
I was in the same situation as you. I ended up sending my device into Samsung for warranty repair. I sent out it last week, and I received it back Tuesday afternoon. Crazy thing was, when they sent it back, there was no paperwork in the box. *Yikes*
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Thanks for sharing your experience, did it in the end get repaired?
Here is what happened with my device.
I contacted the shop and they wanted to send it to a verified repair shop and that I might need to pay money because I rooted my device. In the European constitution it says that if it is not caused by rooting, they can't void the warranty, so I mentioned that and they said it was true but the repair shop was the one who should make sure what the problem is, not them. But I found it a bit fishy so I searched on Twitter for a Samsung account and contacted a very nice woman on there. I asked here about my problem, said what the shop was going to do, she asked what the repair shop's name was and verified it was a good one. She even helped with some tests to see if some things wouldn't solve the problem. Asked her about the warranty and she told me about the European constitution law and that if it wasn't caused by a software problem, it shouldn't cost me anything.
The shop I was talking with saw me talking with them and I think they freaked out a bit. They sent me and the woman from Samsung a message what I wanted to do and I wanted to send it in for repair. I did this and a week later I got it back at no cost and the motherboard was busted. I did get paperwork with my package. Even got my original box back with it and my original cord. Even got a new USB cord for the trouble.
My Sammy is working like a charm again and I love it to bits! Samsung has greet service on Twitter and the repair service is also great!:good:

Giant Shadow Lurker said:
Thanks for sharing your experience, did it in the end get repaired?
Here is what happened with my device.
I contacted the shop and they wanted to send it to a verified repair shop and that I might need to pay money because I rooted my device. In the European constitution it says that if it is not caused by rooting, they can't void the warranty, so I mentioned that and they said it was true but the repair shop was the one who should make sure what the problem is, not them. But I found it a bit fishy so I searched on Twitter for a Samsung account and contacted a very nice woman on there. I asked here about my problem, said what the shop was going to do, she asked what the repair shop's name was and verified it was a good one. She even helped with some tests to see if some things wouldn't solve the problem. Asked her about the warranty and she told me about the European constitution law and that if it wasn't caused by a software problem, it shouldn't cost me anything.
The shop I was talking with saw me talking with them and I think they freaked out a bit. They sent me and the woman from Samsung a message what I wanted to do and I wanted to send it in for repair. I did this and a week later I got it back at no cost and the motherboard was busted. I did get paperwork with my package. Even got my original box back with it and my original cord. Even got a new USB cord for the trouble.
My Sammy is working like a charm again and I love it to bits! Samsung has greet service on Twitter and the repair service is also great!:good:
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Oops.... I forgot to mention it... but yes my device was repaired. It had root going to the shop and they didn't say anything about it being rooted. I am just not exactly sure of what they fixed so I think I am going to call in tonight and see what they did to resolve the issue.
So far, so good with it.
Here's what I hate though.... there's 1000s of folks all experiencing this very same problem as what we were experiencing. My warranty is up in just a few days because i didn't purchase an extended warranty from the place I purchased it from (BestBuy). I don't even know how long the warranty is on whatever repairs that they did. *Yikes*
BUT, I am glad you were able to get your issue resolved as well. That's awesome!

I think it's a design flaw in the first few models. Most devices these days have problems at the beginning when they come out. Dare I mention the XBOX360 that was a problem for it's entire run. I had the luck of only having to repair one but I have known people who had to send in multiple or buy multiple new ones. I probably sound like a grandpa at 28 years old but they don't make things like they used to. They test things in the field on paying customers and that is horrible. Same even counts for pharmaceutical products, it's horrible. But people buy and if demand keeps asking, they keep pumping stuff out. It's not about making a product to be proud about, it's about money, and making money as fast as possible. It's understandable to a degree, but the extremes most companies go to is just ridiculous and the people they hurt with it is even worse. But the market is also way to competitive to not do those things. They would go bankrupt in a year or less if they would do it in a fair and honest way. The world isn't fair and honest. It's a bitter view on the world and the market but these wonderful devices get made in horrible conditions by people that get payed horrible wages commanded by people that get payed incredible wages. In the end, there have to be people that are on the losing side and that are often customers and laborers. And normal people can't win from a big company, whatever they do.
Sorry for the rant. I feel very strongly about injustice in jobs and the unfairness in the world. I really wish we could go back to a time where people are proud of the things they make and sell and everyone would profit from it in some way.
What I have noticed ever since my tablet returned is that my battery is lasting much longer. Maybe it's the new motherboard or they put in a new battery pack. Have you noticed this as well after the repair?

Oneplus RMA fiasco

For a long time now I have been in love with my 1+3, but a few months back I noticed that I can barely hear anything in the handset earpiece. This wasn't such a huge problem for me because I mostly use my BT headset so I lived with it. I rely heavily on my phone in day to day work so I was reluctant to submit it to an RMA which would involve several days without a phone. Fast forward a few months and my phone started having random shutdowns and it would remain blocked like that unless I held the power button for extended times (20s+) several times, occasionally the screen backlight would flash. Couldn't even boot into fastboot with vol+power, basically every time I found my phone not responsive I would have to pray that it will turn back on. I tried all the software solutions I could, roll back to stock rom, stock kernel, update radio/modem but the problem still appeared. This was the point where I decided to contact oneplus customer support for an RMA.
It is a disaster, basically you can see why they can sell you cheap phones, well cheaper, they skim on support.
I tried to directly request an RMA and not go through the remote support since I already tried all the flashing they would guide me through but that wasn't an option so I had a remote session scheduled. On the day of the remote session after waiting half an hour without any reaction from them I was already nervous and decided to go on with my day, after another half an hour they contacted me telling me that they are ready. When I told them it wasn't the scheduled time already they came up with the defense that based on their system this is the right time, that did not comfort me at all but at least they agreed to the RMA. (All the scheduling was done in my local time zone, their idea, so it was probably them having no idea about time conversion)
So the phone went into their service, ARVATO, in Czech and spent a weekend and about a day there, there were to reported problems with the phone, one the earpiece, which I imagined is an easily diagnosed and fixed issue and the problem with the random shutdowns that happens occasionally and without me being able to actually find out why it happens. In the support ticket they kept assuring me that they will do a "full inspection" and fix all outstanding issues.
Imagine my surprise when I got a message from DHL that my package will be delivered the next day, I was really surprised as I have received no notifications from 1+ or arvato they just sent the phone back. So I get the phone in hand, nothing seems to be changed so I try to call one of my colleagues at work to test the earpiece...
Surprise surprise, it still doesn't work.
Now I had the phone for about 24h, I haven't met the shutdown issue, YET, but I can guess that they did nothing in the service to try and diagnose the problem if the "full inspection" missed the faulty earpiece.
Checking on the service protocol, what they did to the phone is: Legacy data deleted Functional test conducted Settings set Software update conducted Which pretty much sounds like software only...how nice, right?
When I asked 1+ what happened, why wasn't my phone fixed they gave me a generic response about how sorry they are and that I can send the phone back with another RMA -.-, how nice of them.
At this point I am not sure I wan't anything more to do with 1+, the phones are good but if you can't have a reliable solution for problems, it's pretty much not worth the money you save.
Did you have similar pleasant experiences with 1+ RMA?

dzsonni said:
For a long time now I have been in love with my 1+3, but a few months back I noticed that I can barely hear anything in the handset earpiece. This wasn't such a huge problem for me because I mostly use my BT headset so I lived with it. I rely heavily on my phone in day to day work so I was reluctant to submit it to an RMA which would involve several days without a phone. Fast forward a few months and my phone started having random shutdowns and it would remain blocked like that unless I held the power button for extended times (20s+) several times, occasionally the screen backlight would flash. Couldn't even boot into fastboot with vol+power, basically every time I found my phone not responsive I would have to pray that it will turn back on. I tried all the software solutions I could, roll back to stock rom, stock kernel, update radio/modem but the problem still appeared. This was the point where I decided to contact oneplus customer support for an RMA.
It is a disaster, basically you can see why they can sell you cheap phones, well cheaper, they skim on support.
I tried to directly request an RMA and not go through the remote support since I already tried all the flashing they would guide me through but that wasn't an option so I had a remote session scheduled. On the day of the remote session after waiting half an hour without any reaction from them I was already nervous and decided to go on with my day, after another half an hour they contacted me telling me that they are ready. When I told them it wasn't the scheduled time already they came up with the defense that based on their system this is the right time, that did not comfort me at all but at least they agreed to the RMA. (All the scheduling was done in my local time zone, their idea, so it was probably them having no idea about time conversion)
So the phone went into their service, ARVATO, in Czech and spent a weekend and about a day there, there were to reported problems with the phone, one the earpiece, which I imagined is an easily diagnosed and fixed issue and the problem with the random shutdowns that happens occasionally and without me being able to actually find out why it happens. In the support ticket they kept assuring me that they will do a "full inspection" and fix all outstanding issues.
Imagine my surprise when I got a message from DHL that my package will be delivered the next day, I was really surprised as I have received no notifications from 1+ or arvato they just sent the phone back. So I get the phone in hand, nothing seems to be changed so I try to call one of my colleagues at work to test the earpiece...
Surprise surprise, it still doesn't work.
Now I had the phone for about 24h, I haven't met the shutdown issue, YET, but I can guess that they did nothing in the service to try and diagnose the problem if the "full inspection" missed the faulty earpiece.
Checking on the service protocol, what they did to the phone is: Legacy data deleted Functional test conducted Settings set Software update conducted Which pretty much sounds like software only...how nice, right?
When I asked 1+ what happened, why wasn't my phone fixed they gave me a generic response about how sorry they are and that I can send the phone back with another RMA -.-, how nice of them.
At this point I am not sure I wan't anything more to do with 1+, the phones are good but if you can't have a reliable solution for problems, it's pretty much not worth the money you save.
Did you have similar pleasant experiences with 1+ RMA?
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Atleast be thankful that you got your phone back, that too in a better condition than when it was sent in.
There was one person here on XDA complaining about his phone being sent to a different country and for about a month atleast, OP was trying to trace the phone. No idea whether he got it back.

Literally sent my 1+3 back today due to earpiece being almost inaudibly quiet.
This doesn't bode well.

My RMA for replacement screen took 6 weeks.
They failed to update the RMA status and their support were incredibly slow.
I did, however, get a perfect working phone back with TGSP

I had to move on to a htc 10. The one plus 3 I bought was used but in absolutely amazing shape. But the ear speaker didn't work and when I tried to make calls I couldnt do it unless I had bt headphones. And when I hung up without bt headphones the phones would freeze and restart. Also the microphone wouldn't work to. I couldn't do a warranty return, so I took it apart and replaced what I could, didn't fix a thing. So I just bought the htc

I had RMA'd my OP3 for the faint earpiece issue. It took a week or two going back and forth for them to issue the RMA. After that, it took about about a week and half for a complete round trip. I was pleasantly surprise they sent to back with a screen protector on and a extra case. I believe it was sent to an Acer service center in Texas.

Support isnt actually bad in my opinion. There are brands such as Motorola / Lenovo who are unreachable regarding RMA and such. Then Samsung who charges €350 just for a screen replacement. I agree that something went wrong and such but this happends everywhere.