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A5 root method ....i have some questions...sorry!

Hi !
It's "really" possible to root with "magisk" ? Or other?.... but with systemless method & WITHOUT touch the flagship efuse knox...
Thank in advance!

Loulou-13 said:
Hi !
It's "really" possible to root with "magisk" ? Or other?.... but with systemless method & WITHOUT touch the flagship efuse knox...
Thank in advance!
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To root you'll first have to flash TWRP recovery in Odin, which will trip knox.
No method to root without it.

Really? No other at this time?.......ok thank you

With lots of research about root ....and Samsung i conclude (if i have correctly understood) that with the galaxy S6 ,chainfire have done the exploit to keep devices "clean"(knox flagship,s-healf ,samsung pay......etc....and lots of apps working by creating "systemless" root , but samsung devellop and update all their security.....and Chainfire is losing the fight since S7,S8....last note..."A" series...
There are less and less apps for root devices too...
And it's possible that it's the little begining of the end of development ===> in "theory" it's stupid to buy expensively a phone for to loose functionnalities and security + warranty ....in this case we can buy an old second-hand or a low-end device for to fiddle.
But we need root for some goods optimisations ,debloats and remove spam ....really pity !!!!! And this A series 2017 is a really great phone...
I have seen that towelroot ,pingpongroot....would root (galaxy S7 MM,) without tripping knox but not "really" confirmed here in xda ( the very serious reliable "bible" of android world).....but if it really root without tripping knox ,it's possible to have problem with some samsung components and playstore apps...i don't know .

Loulou-13 said:
With lots of research about root ....and Samsung i conclude (if i have correctly understood) that with the galaxy S6 ,chainfire have done the exploit to keep devices "clean"(knox flagship,s-healf ,samsung pay......etc....and lots of apps working by creating "systemless" root , but samsung devellop and update all their security.....and Chainfire is losing the fight since S7,S8....last note..."A" series...
There are less and less apps for root devices too...
And it's possible that it's the little begining of the end of development ===> in "theory" it's stupid to buy expensively a phone for to loose functionnalities and security + warranty ....in this case we can buy an old second-hand or a low-end device for to fiddle.
But we need root for some goods optimisations ,debloats and remove spam ....really pity !!!!! And this A series 2017 is a really great phone...
I have seen that towelroot ,pingpongroot....would root (galaxy S7 MM,) without tripping knox but not "really" confirmed here in xda ( the very serious reliable "bible" of android world).....but if it really root without tripping knox ,it's possible to have problem with some samsung components and playstore apps...i don't know .
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Yes, I badly want to root my phone too but am afraid to lose warranty. I even contacted the Samsung Customer Service Support in my country to confirm whether rooting will void my warranty and they say that.
BTW I see that your location's in France. I read somewhere here that in EU, tripping Knox doesn't void warranty. So you can just root away without concern.

What do I lose if I root my S9 ?

I've got an S9 thats running on Androit Pie and I was wondering, what do I lose if I root my phone ? like do I lose acess to future updates on android pie and such or anything like that ?
Any response is much appreciated friends !

knox tripped 0x1 - in some countries you lose warranty (in europe you don't)
You lose (non reversable, not even if you go back on stock):
Knox,
Samsung pass,
Samsung Pay,
S-Health(you can fix this one with a build.prop tweak)
Secure folder
Moreover, if you get LineageOS there is no Iris scanner, since it's not supported on aosp. you still get it if you are on rooted stock

effry said:
knox tripped 0x1 - in some countries you lose warranty (in europe you don't)
You lose (non reversable, not even if you go back on stock):
Knox,
Samsung pass,
Samsung Pay,
S-Health(you can fix this one with a build.prop tweak)
Secure folder
Moreover, if you get LineageOS there is no Iris scanner, since it's not supported on aosp. you still get it if you are on rooted stock
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What apps do I lose on root?

I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.

Secure folder, Samsung pay and any app that makes use of knox
Most other apps can be made to work with tweaks

rafadiego.gomes said:
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
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Most important question you should ask , What do i gain by rooting ? ad blocking ? system ui theming ? all of these things can done without rooting but if you are using exynos version you will get most of lost functionality by going custom rom route.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/development/29-08-19-n975fds-dr-ketan-rom-t3962839

rafadiego.gomes said:
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
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If you want just root + Stock ROM
- Secure folder
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung Pass
- Samsung Health
- Google Pay - There are some workaroun, search XDA
- Many banking and other app but should be fixed with magisk hide
but I believe those app can be run if you reboot to device without root.
From above many things can be fixed with some patch like
- Secure folder can work
- Samsung health can work
- Samsung Pay can be used with Gear watch
only samsung pass won't work but you can use Google's auto fill option instead.

Good to know all these things. I decided to root it when it arrives. Thank you.

rafadiego.gomes said:
Good to know all these things. I decided to root it when it arrives. Thank you.
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Is rooting difficult and is it really worth rooting? Isnt it possible to mess up your phone / void warranty? Seems like a big risk just for a little customization

dr.ketan said:
If you want just root + Stock ROM
- Secure folder
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung Pass
- Samsung Health
- Google Pay - There are some workaroun, search XDA
- Many banking and other app but should be fixed with magisk hide
but I believe those app can be run if you reboot to device without root.
From above many things can be fixed with some patch like
- Secure folder can work
- Samsung health can work
- Samsung Pay can be used with Gear watch
only samsung pass won't work but you can use Google's auto fill option instead.
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Hello
WHen i change ro.config.tima from 1 to 0 in build prop of galaxy note 10+
and i reboot
it goes back to 1 and samsung health still doesn't work.
Do you know what i can do ?
Thank you

Blaalad12 said:
Is rooting difficult and is it really worth rooting? Isnt it possible to mess up your phone / void warranty? Seems like a big risk just for a little customization
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Yes it is worth rooting in any aspect.
Rooting is not "little customization" rather then deep changes "under the hub" and "risk" is only for those who doesn't know why and what to do with rooted device.
And warranty ?...Really, due to "effective" Samsung "support"...who cares about warranty...

Anyone still using the Pixel 2XL?

The forums here seem dead with very little activity. Understandable as most people have moved on from an old phone.
But this phone IMO still holds up very well. Would be great to see more people here.

I’ve never used a 2XL personally, but those older Pixels seem to be great (even as daily drivers). There are also custom ROMs (PixelExperience) that are pretty good.

Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.

I rooted and used custom rom's on almost every phone I owned including Nexus line, but stopped that when I bought a Pixel as it just didn't seem needed.
So my 2XL is still on Android 11. When 12/13 came out I didn't bother. But now I'd like to install a custom rom and get 13 and 14, as I looked at new phones and realized not much has changed except software.
But there's so much less traffic here now, and things have changed and I'm confused - slot a/b, much more complicated steps to flash, no custom kernels etc.

runekock said:
Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.
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are you using a custom rom, if so which one? or are you on stock Android 11?

I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...

runekock said:
I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...
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does safetynet/google pay work?

No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.

runekock said:
No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.
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Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.

neilth said:
Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.
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interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?

ECrispy said:
interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?
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My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.

Used it until I upgraded to a Samsung galaxy S9 a few weeks ago.
Using Crdroid on both devices

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.
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What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
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I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.

ECrispy said:
What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
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I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.
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To pass SafetyNet, the bootloader must appear to be locked. The "fix" module makes it look that way. Probably fakes other stats as well.
To run the fix module, root using Magisk is needed. However, it is possible for the rom developer to include the same mechanisms directly in the rom, and in that case, you don't need Magisk or the module.
You are correct that SafetyNet is going away, though it will happen already in June. It is replaced by Play Integrity. However, that is just a new API for the apps that want to check the phone. The underlying detection is the same, and the same workarounds apply.

The thing that will make faking SafetyNet/Play Integrity impossible is hardware attestation.
Currently, the "fix" module makes the phone claim that hardware attestation isn't possible, just as it isn't possible on phones with too old hardware.
AFAIK, no app yet requires that, because it would also make it unable to run on old phones. But that is likely to change gradually in the future.

Question Impact of Installing Custom ROM and Reverting to Stock Firmware on Galaxy S22 (Exynos Variant)

Hello XDA community,
I am considering installing a custom ROM on my Samsung Galaxy S22 (Exynos variant) and would like to gather some information regarding the implications of this action, especially if I decide to revert back to the official Samsung firmware later on.
Apps Compatibility: Which apps will no longer work if I switch back to the stock firmware after installing a custom ROM? I understand that tripping the Knox flag by rooting or installing custom ROMs can cause certain Samsung apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, and Secure Folder to stop functioning. But what about other apps? Specifically, I am concerned about the compatibility of my banking app from Belfius (Belgium) with features like contactless payments.
OTA Updates: Will I still be able to receive Over-The-Air (OTA) updates once I have installed a custom ROM and then switched back to the official firmware?
I understand that the Exynos variant might not differ significantly from the Snapdragon variant in this context, but I thought it's worth mentioning.
Any insights or experiences that you could share would be immensely helpful. Thank you in advance!

So first thing you need to understand is that you would be installing a GSI and not a fully maintained device based Rom.
That means forget about the timely updates.
Secondly, GSIs are not optimized for particular phones and you might encounter bugs. From what I remeber, VOLTE won't work on GSI and for some phones even Bluetooth audio and mobile Hotspot won't work. Not to mention erratic battery life and unoptimized system.
App compatibility won't be an issue. But you have to say good bye to the samsung ecosystem. Also, if you do decide to install a custom rom, you will trip Knox and a few apps like secure folder, Samsung pay, samsung pass and Health might not work (unless they are patched). As for banking apps, they should work fine unless you are rooting your phone. If you do, you just to install a magisk module to pass the play stone security settings (forgot the name of it).
Also, if you again decide to go back on the stock rom, you just need to relock the bootloader and you should be able to get Ota updates again.
Overall, it's a good experience but you will grow tired of the bugs present in the GSI soon.