The forums here seem dead with very little activity. Understandable as most people have moved on from an old phone.
But this phone IMO still holds up very well. Would be great to see more people here.
I’ve never used a 2XL personally, but those older Pixels seem to be great (even as daily drivers). There are also custom ROMs (PixelExperience) that are pretty good.
Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.
I rooted and used custom rom's on almost every phone I owned including Nexus line, but stopped that when I bought a Pixel as it just didn't seem needed.
So my 2XL is still on Android 11. When 12/13 came out I didn't bother. But now I'd like to install a custom rom and get 13 and 14, as I looked at new phones and realized not much has changed except software.
But there's so much less traffic here now, and things have changed and I'm confused - slot a/b, much more complicated steps to flash, no custom kernels etc.
runekock said:
Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.
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are you using a custom rom, if so which one? or are you on stock Android 11?
I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...
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I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...
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does safetynet/google pay work?
No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.
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No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.
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Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.
neilth said:
Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.
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interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?
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interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?
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My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.
Used it until I upgraded to a Samsung galaxy S9 a few weeks ago.
Using Crdroid on both devices
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.
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What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
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I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.
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What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
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I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.
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To pass SafetyNet, the bootloader must appear to be locked. The "fix" module makes it look that way. Probably fakes other stats as well.
To run the fix module, root using Magisk is needed. However, it is possible for the rom developer to include the same mechanisms directly in the rom, and in that case, you don't need Magisk or the module.
You are correct that SafetyNet is going away, though it will happen already in June. It is replaced by Play Integrity. However, that is just a new API for the apps that want to check the phone. The underlying detection is the same, and the same workarounds apply.
The thing that will make faking SafetyNet/Play Integrity impossible is hardware attestation.
Currently, the "fix" module makes the phone claim that hardware attestation isn't possible, just as it isn't possible on phones with too old hardware.
AFAIK, no app yet requires that, because it would also make it unable to run on old phones. But that is likely to change gradually in the future.
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So I read an Article
That states
Using a feature called verified boot, Android 7.0 Nougat will check the cryptographic integrity to detect if your device has been tampered with.
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With that said, will there ever be root again for android 7 and up?
so, with cm14 at least, i believe root is included. If anything i think it will just disable certain features if the device has been rooted. although i suppose that it would depend on the manufacturer. It will certainly be more difficult with samsung, anyways. I'm done with samsung after this one, though. samsung has been bending root users over the table since knox was first included with consumer phones - since before then, but it was a minor inconvenience before then.
when they didn't include adoptable storage with their marshmallow update, i was OUT! looking at the lg v20 now, i sampled it for a bit and it literally made me want to throw my note 4 in the trash
Look at the Pixel, Android 7.1 + root, It's possible. We're not getting official Android 7.x more likely than not, but it's possible to root 7.x.
I'm running CM14.1 on this device and SuperSU is just fine.
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Look at the Pixel, Android 7.1 + root, It's possible. We're not getting official Android 7.x more likely than not, but it's possible to root 7.x.
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Thank you this is the answer I was looking for.
Hi,
First of all I'm new here. I have recently rooted and installed Lineage OS on my HTC One m8. I have noticed that one of my apps (Adidas Confirmed) does not support rooted devices. Therefore I just tried (15 min ago) to flash SUhide on my phone. This resulted in a boot-loop and I therefore had to restore my device. Is there any other way to hide the fact that my device is rooted? As far as I know Xposed framework isn't out yet for Android 7.0 and I can't get Cydia substrate to work with root cloak. Btw I have S-off (not sure if this makes a difference to why the methods I have tried didn't work or not. Just wanted to mention)
Thanks in advance!
Use Rootcloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
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princepavs said:
Use Rootcloak
There is version for nougat too google it too
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
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There's no Xposed Framework for Nougat. Maybe he can try to use Magisk. Magisk has option to hide the root.
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There's no Xposed Framework for Nougat. Maybe he can try to use Magisk. Magisk has option to hide the root.
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Thanks! I'll try it out. Btw I can see you have S-off. Should I do that too for my m8?
BeastyUmbrella said:
Thanks! I'll try it out. Btw I can see you have S-off. Should I do that too for my m8?
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No, you don't need to. S-OFF is giving you more permissions, like to flash h/k mod on sense rom or to flash firmware easily.
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No, you don't need to. S-OFF is giving you more permissions, like to flash h/k mod on sense rom or to flash firmware easily.
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Thanks! The Magisk manager worked
BeastyUmbrella said:
Hi,
First of all I'm new here. I have recently rooted and installed Lineage OS on my HTC One m8. I have noticed that one of my apps (Adidas Confirmed) does not support rooted devices. Therefore I just tried (15 min ago) to flash SUhide on my phone. This resulted in a boot-loop and I therefore had to restore my device. Is there any other way to hide the fact that my device is rooted? As far as I know Xposed framework isn't out yet for Android 7.0 and I can't get Cydia substrate to work with root cloak. Btw I have S-off (not sure if this makes a difference to why the methods I have tried didn't work or not. Just wanted to mention)
Thanks in advance!
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I cannot give you a definative answer concerning your ROM mut I too have a rooted HTC One (M8). Post rooting I tried various ROMs from Cyanogen mod but none of these were very up-to-date for long and Android has been quite vulnerable since most manufacturers take an expediant and cynical view when it comes to supporting non-cutting edge hardware (HTC was one of the worst) and supplying security patches. I should add I try to avoid Google and the big social media platforms because I am not prepared to trade privacy (hand over personal data) for the sake of functionality. So, I have been using Moke ROM - MK60.1 Android security patch 1 April 2017. I tried usin MK71 Nightly OTA release but found them unstable - they lost dialer and network functionality after 24 hours. This is where my comments become more relevant. I have several proprietry UK banking apps installed including FinTek ones. None of them is supposed to instal on a rooted device, not at least without saying 'rooted - no go'. Under settings, developer options root access is controlled. The options are: Disabled Apps only ADB only Apps and ADB. None of the Fintek apps function but the main legacy bank app does even though it is not supposed to. In conclusion it seems to be that the app has code capable of interrogating the phone OS and detecting rooted status. Depending on the quality of the program it may correctly determin rooted status, or not. It is highly unlikely there is any intervention available to the rooter to combat this.
nickbw said:
I cannot give you a definative answer concerning your ROM mut I too have a rooted HTC One (M8). Post rooting I tried various ROMs from Cyanogen mod but none of these were very up-to-date for long and Android has been quite vulnerable since most manufacturers take an expediant and cynical view when it comes to supporting non-cutting edge hardware (HTC was one of the worst) and supplying security patches. I should add I try to avoid Google and the big social media platforms because I am not prepared to trade privacy (hand over personal data) for the sake of functionality. So, I have been using Moke ROM - MK60.1 Android security patch 1 April 2017. I tried usin MK71 Nightly OTA release but found them unstable - they lost dialer and network functionality after 24 hours. This is where my comments become more relevant. I have several proprietry UK banking apps installed including FinTek ones. None of them is supposed to instal on a rooted device, not at least without saying 'rooted - no go'. Under settings, developer options root access is controlled. The options are: Disabled Apps only ADB only Apps and ADB. None of the Fintek apps function but the main legacy bank app does even though it is not supposed to. In conclusion it seems to be that the app has code capable of interrogating the phone OS and detecting rooted status. Depending on the quality of the program it may correctly determin rooted status, or not. It is highly unlikely there is any intervention available to the rooter to combat this.
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Thanks for the reply! In the meantime, I have bought a Samsung galaxy s8 and put my HTC One m8 on a shelf. However, I remember that I managed to solve the issue somehow through Magisk and their "hide root function". It may have been because of an update to the Adidas app or a Magisk update, I am not sure. Hope this was somewhat helpful
BeastyUmbrella said:
However, I remember that I managed to solve the issue somehow through Magisk and their "hide root function". It may have been because of an update to the Adidas app or a Magisk update, I am not sure. Hope this was somewhat helpful
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Magisk is indeed a solution. It's been updated to (currently) hide root successfully from Safety Net. Although Google may update it again, and break the hide function. So the cat and mouse game goes on. But so far topjohnwu is aggressively keeping Magisk updated to bypass Safety Net.
Apps may use other methods to detect root besides Safety Net. But Safety Net is probably the most common method. Magisk works for me, in hiding root from Netflix and banking apps on my current device (OnePlus 3T).
More recent versions of SuperSU also have a function to hide root (current version is 2.82). I personally haven't tried it. But reports I've read are positive.
Xposed is a no-go, as far as I know. It inherently breaks SafetyNet. So whatever means the Xposed module used before to hide root, won't work now. Again, AFAIK (haven't personally tried, and not really an xposed user).
Also note that some custom ROMs may also trip Safety Net. And if so, there is nothing the Magisk Hide and SuperSU hide function can do about that. But I think this does not apply to Lineage (hide still works).
I'm thinking of buying a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and I want to install a quality open-source ROM on it since I don't want the Chinese or Google spying on me.
I've never installed a ROM before, and I don't think I really need any fancy features (except for basic smartphone things, like support for camera, flashlight, WiFi, Bluetooth, phone calls, audio/video recording and playback, GPS, etc.). I guess my only other requirement is that it can support something like aptX/aptX HD so I can use it with Bluetooth headphones and it won't sound like ass.
I've got some questions:
Do most ROMs generally tend to work with most phones? Can I just download some random ROM and have it work most of the time?
Are the 2 pages of ROM threads listed on this forum the only ones this phone can support? Or are these just the ROMs that forum users have tested it with? A lot of these ROMs I've never even heard of, and many are listed as [UNOFFICIAL].
Cyanogenmod has been discontinued, but could it still work on newer devices? There's projects like freecyngn which can remove propriety Google Analytics stuff from it, and I don't know if any similar tweaks exist for Cyanogenmod's successors.
What's a good resource for de-googled ROMs with no proprietary software? And which can support aptX/aptX HD or an alternative. And would hopefully actually work with the phone.
Sorry, someone is always out there listening, watching, monitoring and data mining - regardless of the OS eco-system. Learn to built your own and have fun. Good luck !
P.S. Stay away from smartphone, go back to a "dumb" phone. Find yourself a good old Motorola Startac classic or Sony-Ericson ... maybe. That is, if backdoors were not integrated at the chipset level.
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Sorry, someone is always out there listening, watching, monitoring and data mining - regardless of the OS eco-system. Learn to built your own and have fun. Good luck !
P.S. Stay away from smartphone, go back to a "dumb" phone. Find yourself a good old Motorola Startac classic or Sony-Ericson ... maybe. That is, if backdoors were not integrated at the chipset level.
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I'm not asking for a phone to go off the grid and hide in the amazon jungle with, but there's an obvious difference between an OS bloated with proprietary spyware garbage and an OS that's as barebones and open-source as possible. I want to make the best choice when it comes to what's installed on my smartphone, or as close as to the best choice as I can get.
I don't think programming is something I'll ever learn to do, let alone build my own OS. The best I can do is make a table with fancy text in HTML.
Let's start with your Google account if you want to stay under the radar - it's a given with Play Store, unless you feel comfortable going without it and sideload Gapps or manually install/update from APK mirror. A2 Lite is a good but entry level smartphone, don't expect nor realistic to count on extensive custom rom development.
You will need to learn and experiment to find out for yourself, start with rooting the A/B partition and installing TWRP, then select a ROM ... you will be flashing at least several of these to decide what work best for you. Read - there is plenty of comments, feedbacks and caution.
I run the stock Global rom, Android One - which is as close to "pure" without bloatware as it can be (having owned, used & played with probably 2 dozens+ smartphone in this decade) - and have no problems - unlike others and not eveyone is having issues with WiFi & bluetooth.
I run Lineage OS on the Huawei Honor 5X ... and there are custom roms that are barebone and/or need only minimal Gapps to be flashed (nano or pico) - it comes down to the question for you, what is your definition of spyware, proprietary or stock/OEM and preloaded. If you are paranoid, don't use it, disabled it, block it and change permission - IMHO, with Oreo & Pie roms - it will probably crippled your device badly.
Trust me, "they" all know where you've been and just left, approximate time spend and what you clicked. Give it a rest unless you have reasons to worry.
I don't know what I should download because I have no idea what would work with this phone. Online it says that Android One "only runs on certain smartphones", so probably not that. If Oreo/Pie stop working if you disable certain bloat, then I'm fine with using something older or even ancient, as long as it can function. And I'm probably going to be installing Play apps from APK mirror instead of the Play Store. What actually is the difference between that and sideloading? I thought when you installed an .apk from APK mirror it meant you were sideloading.
Again, my expectations for an OS are quite modest - basic smartphone features, along with the ability to use aptX/aptX HD or some other variants.
Can you link some de-googled and de-bloated ROMs I can choose from? I can't find any ROMs named "nano" or "pico" on the ROM section for this phone, or on Google.
dooshbagel said:
I'm thinking of buying a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and I want to install a quality open-source ROM on it since I don't want the Chinese or Google spying on me.
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Roms listed here are the ones you need, they are the ones for this phone. Successor of CM is LineageOS and people are happy with it. Being such a noob do your reading before you get into flashing, that prevents pulling too much hair. Mi A2 lite is a good phone.
Ah, avoid stock, it's a mess according to people who used it. I erased it as soon as I got the phone. I run AOSiP and am content with it.
On this phone you can also flash GSI systems (more reading), ArrowOS 9 worked just fine for me, others may be good too.
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I'm thinking of buying a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and I want to install a quality open-source ROM on it since I don't want the Chinese or Google spying on me.
I've never installed a ROM before, and I don't think I really need any fancy features (except for basic smartphone things, like support for camera, flashlight, WiFi, Bluetooth, phone calls, audio/video recording and playback, GPS, etc.). I guess my only other requirement is that it can support something like aptX/aptX HD so I can use it with Bluetooth headphones and it won't sound like ass.
I've got some questions:
Do most ROMs generally tend to work with most phones? Can I just download some random ROM and have it work most of the time?
Are the 2 pages of ROM threads listed on this forum the only ones this phone can support? Or are these just the ROMs that forum users have tested it with? A lot of these ROMs I've never even heard of, and many are listed as [UNOFFICIAL].
Cyanogenmod has been discontinued, but could it still work on newer devices? There's projects like freecyngn which can remove propriety Google Analytics stuff from it, and I don't know if any similar tweaks exist for Cyanogenmod's successors.
What's a good resource for de-googled ROMs with no proprietary software? And which can support aptX/aptX HD or an alternative. And would hopefully actually work with the phone.
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Just try this https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/development/rom-barebones-lineageos-16-0-t3931121
celrau said:
On this phone you can also flash GSI systems (more reading), ArrowOS 9 worked just fine for me, others may be good too.
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What is GSI? And I don't see ArrowOS 9 listed anywhere in this phone's forum section. Can I just download it anywhere from the internet and have it work with the A2 Lite?
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What is GSI? And I don't see ArrowOS 9 listed anywhere in this phone's forum section. Can I just download it anywhere from the internet and have it work with the A2 Lite?
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GSI stands for generic system images but as I said, do your own reading on all these. ArrowOS is here and you will need AB. And no, you can't just download it from anywhere on the internet and have it work. Search for what treble and GSI are, how to flash them and so on. Theoretically GSIs are easier to deal with since you don't need to change slots (don't ask me what slots are, you have the internet) but they are generic and some features may not work. If this is too much for you there is a thread here about debloating the stock rom, maybe that's more in tone with your current level of experience.
dooshbagel said:
I'm thinking of buying a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, and I want to install a quality open-source ROM on it since I don't want the Chinese or Google spying on me.
I've never installed a ROM before, and I don't think I really need any fancy features (except for basic smartphone things, like support for camera, flashlight, WiFi, Bluetooth, phone calls, audio/video recording and playback, GPS, etc.). I guess my only other requirement is that it can support something like aptX/aptX HD so I can use it with Bluetooth headphones and it won't sound like ass.
I've got some questions:
Do most ROMs generally tend to work with most phones? Can I just download some random ROM and have it work most of the time?
Are the 2 pages of ROM threads listed on this forum the only ones this phone can support? Or are these just the ROMs that forum users have tested it with? A lot of these ROMs I've never even heard of, and many are listed as [UNOFFICIAL].
Cyanogenmod has been discontinued, but could it still work on newer devices? There's projects like freecyngn which can remove propriety Google Analytics stuff from it, and I don't know if any similar tweaks exist for Cyanogenmod's successors.
What's a good resource for de-googled ROMs with no proprietary software? And which can support aptX/aptX HD or an alternative. And would hopefully actually work with the phone.
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Trying to reply in a simplier manner than previous comments:
I come from the similar direction to yours. I am not a whistleblower, but I'm sick of all the data collection, all my moves logged on Google servers, all the synchronization and all the targeted ads.
For downloading apps you don't need to sideload, just use F-Droid + Aurora Store for Play Store.
LineageOS is the continuation of Cyanogenmod project.
The best you can find right now is this build of Lineage: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/development/lineageos-16-0-xiaomi-mi-a2-lite-t3919060
Be aware that it has unofficial status by now and it's unclear if it's gonna change anytime soon. It means you have to put all your trust in the maintainer, plus it doesn't use official Lineage infrastracture for delivering updates etc. Also SELinux is not active, at least yet.
The phone itself I definitely recommend - cheap, 10+ hours of SOT, fast enough, camera is ok for random pic taking.
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GSI stands for generic system images but as I said, do your own reading on all these. ArrowOS is here and you will need AB. And no, you can't just download it from anywhere on the internet and have it work. Search for what treble and GSI are, how to flash them and so on. Theoretically GSIs are easier to deal with since you don't need to change slots (don't ask me what slots are, you have the internet) but they are generic and some features may not work. If this is too much for you there is a thread here about debloating the stock rom, maybe that's more in tone with your current level of experience.
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Alright, cheers. What are the basic procedures if I lightly or horribly screw up something while I'm doing this? Resetting, etc.
Might I respectfully suggest that you brew a cup of coffee or tea or whatever beverage, sit back and do some serious reading. Maybe, buy this device first and/or play with something you currently owned to get a better feel of how flashing & other basics like ADB and installing of ADB works.
You will probably need to be comfortable using (Xiao)MiFlash to fix any possible soft/hard brick to recover it back to OEM stock condition. All of the above plus other suggested files, roms and tools on your PC, ready to do its part. I also agreed, perhaps, once you decide to buy this device - start with debloating the stock rom as a beginner, to see what all this is about - before freaking out in a panic about all those warnings & errors on the device's screen as it boot up.
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Alright, cheers. What are the basic procedures if I lightly or horribly screw up something while I'm doing this? Resetting, etc.
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As the other guy is saying, best do some basic reading and install adb and fastboot on your computer, you will need them. If you stay with stock and just get rid of Google and friends (highly recommended for worm up) but **** up at some point and you can't boot or it bootloops, restart in recovery and reset. Or if you boot and something is not working but you have access to settings app, reset from there. Here, I'm doing your homework. DuckDuckGo is your friend.
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1-Do most ROMs generally tend to work with most phones? Can I just download some random ROM and have it work most of the time?
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For the past years, unlike PC systems, a ROM was device specific and each supported device (of Cyanogenmod, let's say) was maintained by a dedicated developer. We still call it the same version of the said ROM, but each one has specific drivers files for its compatible device. It's still the case nowadays, and that's what you'll see in the ROM section of this device.
However, beginning from Oreo, google introduced a project called "Treble" that intended to separate the common Android System from the device specific files and driver's, by separating the classic system partition to a "vendor" partition, which contains all the hardware specific stuff, and a "system" partition containing a only generic universal Android system.
With this "Treble" project, a new type of ROMs emerged, called GSIs. These ROMs work on all Treble compatible devices (the Mi A2 lite included), and don't need to be maintained for each one. The Treble forum is here ; you'll find a more large selection with GSI ROMs, but I advice you to stay with the device specific ROMs on the Mi A2 Lite forum, which are more optimised for their specific device.
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2- Are the 2 pages of ROM threads listed on this forum the only ones this phone can support? Or are these just the ROMs that forum users have tested it with? A lot of these ROMs I've never even heard of, and many are listed as [UNOFFICIAL].
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As answered above, these are the specific ROMs especially developed for this device, they'll be the more adapted to the Mi A2 Lite.
UNNOFICIAL just means that the developer that buildt the ROM for this device isn't working directly with the team responsible of the ROM. (For example the CrDroid ROM being official, it's A2Lite version will be hosted in the CrDroid site, an unofficial one won't).
It can be an indicator of stability, but you may find a very stable and clean UNNOFICIAL rom.
Now almost all the ROM that you've seen in the list are based on LineageOS, itself the son of CyanogenMod. We'll come to this point now.
dooshbagel said:
3- Cyanogenmod has been discontinued, but could it still work on newer devices? There's projects like freecyngn which can remove propriety Google Analytics stuff from it, and I don't know if any similar tweaks exist for Cyanogenmod's successors
4- What's a good resource for de-googled ROMs with no proprietary software? And which can support aptX/aptX HD or an alternative. And would hopefully actually work with the phone.
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The CyanogenMod project was going on like one week after it was discontinued, under the name of "LineageOS". Its 100% the same source and base, and the LineageOS team is the part of CM team that wanted to continue the CM rom developpement after their team split.
If you want a clean ROM with the basic features and independent from Google software, LOS is the more advisable. They provide their own version of all the basic feature apps (dialer, camera, music player etc) so that you don't need using Google software, and are in general VERY privacy axed, and have a centralised interface called Trust from which you can control what informations each app have access to.
Like I said above, almost all the ROMs (in the A2 Lite section) you'll see are based on LineageOS, adding customization features mostly. So if you just need the vanilla Android feature, with no obscure ROM additional software, and axed on privacy and security, I think LineageOS is your best shot.
The LineageOS 16build for this device is unnoficial but is fully buggless and regularly updated and maintained by a xda recognized developer.
Lastly, unrelated to you questions but you may need to read some "A/B devices - seamless updates" documentation, and carefully read the guides, or you risk bricking your device. (And possibly provide yourself with all the necessary stuff to unbrick your device, just in case)
Thanks GDFI, great post.
Alright bois, time for me to do some research then.
I built a custom version of LineageOS for personal use, with some built-in apps removed, patches for signature spoofing and some (mostly FOSS) apps included (microG, F-Droid, Lawnchair, etc.)
https://rarepepes.faith/lineage-16.0-20190606-UNOFFICIAL-daisy.zip
You can't really go full FOSS with any of the Android phones (Samsung S3 + Replicant ROM is as good as it gets), but you can minimize Google stuff on your device and filter network connections using apps like AFWall
Have fun!
You kids can try to Port "mokee os" ?
Hi, I recommend you to stay with AndroidOne OS.
I don't know why you want to change OS because Xiaomi still releasing security patch which is very important to protect your phone.
Custom ROM rarely update and maintain.
Not to mention in order to flash it, you need patient and time to learn the knowledge.
It is only suitable to go for custom ROM when Xiaomi not longer support Mi A2 Lite.
coolwei1 said:
Hi, I recommend you to stay with AndroidOne OS.
I don't know why you want to change OS because Xiaomi still releasing security patch which is very important to protect your phone.
Custom ROM rarely update and maintain.
Not to mention in order to flash it, you need patient and time to learn the knowledge.
It is only suitable to go for custom ROM when Xiaomi not longer support Mi A2 Lite.
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Obscurantism at its best :good:
When nobody use a custom rom, nobody will develope on this device. Ergo no stable custom rom in the end of service for mi a2 Lite
I recently managed to bollux up my 2XL, particularly the ability to install Recovery, TWRP or any other. After trying to install a series of ROMS, I found CalyxOS at https://calyxos.org/ CalxyOS is an interesting, security-focues de-Googlefied ROM that does not require or permit a Recovery installation, nor have I been able to root it. It's installed via use of a batch file run while booted to bootloader. CalxyOS comes with a lot a FOSS software, as well as the ability to use Google services if you want them (I do). I found that the best way to get some Google items installed at the system level was to use the Aroma version of Open Gaaps 11 https://opengapps.org/ and select the minimum of what I wanted, and then using the Aroma installer delete all the included stuff I did not want to make sufficient room for the installation. There is not enough room even to install Pico gaaps if you don't do it this way. I'm using this as a 2nd phone, mostly for tracking mileage in my car, so it has a Google Fi data chip, only. I booted TWRP from my computer and tried to install Magisk, unsuccessfully. Anyway, I at least have a working phone again!
From the CalxyOS website, it looks like only Pixel 3 and up are getting updates.
calyxos rapes my battery and lacks many basic android features, touts itself as secure while not taking amny extra steps to do so, beyond that of which every non-stock rom does
wheres the hardened or at least changable webview
the app isolation?
frequent security updates?
the list goes on, this rom seems just like an excuse to sell a overpriced product, a door to door scam that reminds me of purism or apple
2022-02-11
CalyxOS 2.14.0 - Android 11, February 2022 Security update is now available for the Pixel 2, 2 XL and Mi A2.
Sadly, we will no longer be able to provide OS updates for the Pixel 2, and Pixel 2 XL. The Xiaomi Mi A2 should get Android 12 at a later date, if everything goes well.
Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
This is the final CalyxOS update for these devices. Google stopped updating the Pixel 2 series as of December 2020.
Up till now, we extended these phones useful lifetimes by patching the open source components: AOSP and the Linux kernel. Linux kernel 4.4 was a long-term support kernel, but has stopped receiving updates this month. ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_version_history )
Unfortunately due to the kernel dependency, it is also not feasible to have Android 12 fully working on these devices. There are various community efforts, but there’s no fully working port as far we know.
As such, we have decided to stop updating these devices. Applications such as Chromium and microG will still continue recieving updates.
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Like Graphene, i will not spect any upgrade anymore, even microG ........
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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What device and firmware?
TheGhost1951 said:
What device and firmware?
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i want to buy normal OP9P
Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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The OnePlus 9 pro is good for customizing!
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
Evon88 said:
hello everyone, i want to buy this devie but as i see i cant install twrp!
if i can ask why? is it bc of oneplus or no devs to do it? also thx for all devs
i buy the phone for customs and roms and twrp and rooting and this things, this is my priorities
and is this device fully supported for development? any twrp coming soon?
and what about customs here? is they easy to install?
is this device good for gaming and daily use?
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You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
Evon88 said:
i want to buy normal OP9P
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Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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There's a user/team on the >OnePlus 6 & 6T forums<, that has had success with Android 12 and 13 decrypt, I use it on my 6T, and decrypt works flawlessly, I use it to flash Magisk when changing/updating ROMs.
It's Unofficial however, I hope it trickles to other devices.
Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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thank you bro for explain, what do you think about chinese OP9P? i can change the rom, 5G i dont care that much, anthing else? is quality the same like hardware and plastic and fiber and this things? i mean phone body and screen
Bugscze said:
You can in fact install and boot TWRP. But you can't do almost anything in it... But this isn't OP9P problem but every phone with Android 12 and encryprion enabled. But as other said, TWRP isn't needed for flashing custom ROMs.
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thanks, <3
Evon88 said:
thank you sir, what about chinese version? u recommend it? im pro at rooting and customs and msm, if the problem is just roms, i see used chinese new mobile, u recommend me to buy?
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All of them are made in china and I think will be good quality OnePlus phone. I don't know if they use anything different (except rom). You can change from colorOS to oxygenOS
twrp not needed
vincemue said:
twrp not needed
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Needed, maybe not. Desired, definitely. It can do a lot of things that the stock and AOSP recoveries simply can't (to name just one: it can wipe data without wiping storage, as I mentioned above; stock/AOSP recoveries' "factory reset" wipe destroys everything).
MJPollard said:
@Evon88, the fact is, TWRP hasn't been updated to properly support Android 12, at least not on the 9 Pro, and I'm beginning to suspect that it never will be. IMHO, it looks to me like encryption and other issues introduced by Google have simply gotten the best of the TWRP team. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and will be pleasantly surprised if TWRP is updated to work with Android 12 and above, but right now, that remains in the realm of wishful thinking.
The good news is that the recoveries included with most Android 12 ROMs (based on the AOSP recovery) are functional, and are capable of doing the minimum work of flashing new ROMs and upgrades (i.e. Magisk and Gapps) just like TWRP. They certainly don't have the wealth of features that TWRP has (such as the ability to wipe only the data partition without erasing the media partition; it's either all or nothing), but then, they weren't designed to have them. I keep hoping that someone will take the AOSP recovery and use it as a base for a recovery that includes more of TWRP's features. (I'd do it if I had the knowledge. I'm knowledgeable enough to poke at AOSP and cherry pick features to create a custom ROM, but the intimate knowledge required to work with the recovery code is something I don't have.)
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I was on LE2127_11_C20 A12 with tarp and root.......the mail reason it worked was no lock screen security. I did try with setting a password is be cause a script to try and make partitions R/W but that put me in a bootloader loop. Went back to 11.2.9.9..
Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
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Did you follow a YouTube tutorial step by step guide to see if you made any mistakes?
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Who are you asking?
Appreciative said:
Don't let lack of twrp hold you back. It's a fun phone. I use it for gaming (CODM) on Android 11.2.10.10 just fine. I may end up flashing an old build of crDroid for Android 11 but I'm pretty happy with how everything is set up on regular OOS now and don't want to lose L1 and start back over.
Unlocked bootloader✓
Root/Magisk✓
SafetyNet✓
Netflix, GPay, Banking apps✓
L1 Widevine✓
Real OOS✓
65w charging✓
120hz LTPO✓
No Dual Sim
The tmobile variant is still for sale on ebay at $469 brand new in the box or from OnePlus directly (also Tmo variant) for $499
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The Indian variant has dual SIM. Maybe some others variants, too.