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Hey Guys,
Thank you for any help you may provide in advance, and please know I did a proper search before posting this.
I am currently using Malaysk firmware (April release) and have I am very happy with such a dev.
However there is one thing I would like to do; I would like to completely remove the Xposed framework and any trace remaining of it. (I already uninstalled the framework using the app)
This is due to the fact that the current app of my tv provider gets blocked when it discovers this and I would love to have this functionality back.
Could someone point me in the right direction on this topic?
Thx Again,
Gtrz Ecniv

Did it work before on an older version of Malaysk ROM? There are xposed apps that can prevent apps from seeing a modified system like Root Cloak there was one that you could type in specific modifications not sure the name though. Does a rooted device have a conflict with your app? there are apps that disable certain features or all if root is detected. I'm not sure where Xposed is located on the storage but a simple search in ES File Explorer might find it for you.

Hey bsavoir22,
Thx for the input, to be honest I can`t remember if I ever had it working on a Malaysk ROM however I do know what you are talking about; The Irdetto fix. Unfortunately I have tried and tested that and it won`t work I did have it running on a rooted previous firmware though (Non-Malaysk, rooted Stock GS firmware) in combination with root cloak that`s why I`m suspecting the Xposed framework.
That`s why I am interested in trying to remove the framework entirely as I love the ROMs made by Malaysk really would like all functionality back that I had on my old firmware.:good:
Grtz Ecniv

bleepsake

I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,

bleepsake said:
I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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Welcome Back!
1. Yes, google pay and most banking apps work but I believe it depends on what bank you use. (I use Chase)
2. Xposed is questionable at best for the moment, at least for Pie. It's still in beta for 8.1 and, as far as I know, Rovo89 hasn't mentioned any development in that regard
3. Personally, I prefer stock. I use elemental kernel, magisk modules and substratum.
4. Magisk is simple enough to use, but some have had issues since Pie. To get a general idea of how magisk works, start here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/development/2017-11-6-root-pixel-2-xl-t3701176

bleepsake said:
I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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1. I personally don't use any banking apps for making payments but from doing some reading it seems most will work as long as you don't have the Xposed framework installed.
2. It is a thing up to Oreo. It is still in beta for Oreo, however when I used it I had no issues. It felt stable as far as I'm concerned. However, it did slow down my device a bit and I also found alternate apps for the Xposed mods I used.
3. I'm on Liquid Remix and I love it! HavocOS is really great too. I've been a long time Flash kernel user, but now that is EOL. I have now switched to Kirisakura.
4. You just need to download the Magisk zip from the official thread and flash it in recovery. After you reboot you'll see the Magisk Manager app and it's pretty straightforward and self-explanatory at that point!

Possible to get an Ambient Display working on the Oneplus 3?

Back before i came back to Oxygen OS for the release of Pie, i used various other roms that had supported a Always On Display. since coming back i have missed that feature. i was wondering if theres a way to get a Always On Display working with or without root as i am currently rooted.
- I am both rooted and have magisk installed so feel free to reply with rooted methods/magisk modules. -

AlphaEskitit said:
Back before i came back to Oxygen OS for the release of Pie, i used various other roms that had supported a Always On Display. since coming back i have missed that feature. i was wondering if theres a way to get a Always On Display working with or without root as i am currently rooted.
- I am both rooted and have magisk installed so feel free to reply with rooted methods/magisk modules. -
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Always On AMOLED is probably your best bet:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en_GB
This question has already been answered in the OP forums:
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/always-on-display.452096/

Yeah i have tried it, however it does have a issue which at least for me is a deal breaker
-Unlocking the phone using my fingerprint instead results in what seems to be the app closing

What apps do I lose on root?

I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.

Secure folder, Samsung pay and any app that makes use of knox
Most other apps can be made to work with tweaks

rafadiego.gomes said:
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
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Most important question you should ask , What do i gain by rooting ? ad blocking ? system ui theming ? all of these things can done without rooting but if you are using exynos version you will get most of lost functionality by going custom rom route.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/development/29-08-19-n975fds-dr-ketan-rom-t3962839

rafadiego.gomes said:
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
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If you want just root + Stock ROM
- Secure folder
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung Pass
- Samsung Health
- Google Pay - There are some workaroun, search XDA
- Many banking and other app but should be fixed with magisk hide
but I believe those app can be run if you reboot to device without root.
From above many things can be fixed with some patch like
- Secure folder can work
- Samsung health can work
- Samsung Pay can be used with Gear watch
only samsung pass won't work but you can use Google's auto fill option instead.

Good to know all these things. I decided to root it when it arrives. Thank you.

rafadiego.gomes said:
Good to know all these things. I decided to root it when it arrives. Thank you.
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Is rooting difficult and is it really worth rooting? Isnt it possible to mess up your phone / void warranty? Seems like a big risk just for a little customization

dr.ketan said:
If you want just root + Stock ROM
- Secure folder
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung Pass
- Samsung Health
- Google Pay - There are some workaroun, search XDA
- Many banking and other app but should be fixed with magisk hide
but I believe those app can be run if you reboot to device without root.
From above many things can be fixed with some patch like
- Secure folder can work
- Samsung health can work
- Samsung Pay can be used with Gear watch
only samsung pass won't work but you can use Google's auto fill option instead.
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Hello
WHen i change ro.config.tima from 1 to 0 in build prop of galaxy note 10+
and i reboot
it goes back to 1 and samsung health still doesn't work.
Do you know what i can do ?
Thank you

Blaalad12 said:
Is rooting difficult and is it really worth rooting? Isnt it possible to mess up your phone / void warranty? Seems like a big risk just for a little customization
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Yes it is worth rooting in any aspect.
Rooting is not "little customization" rather then deep changes "under the hub" and "risk" is only for those who doesn't know why and what to do with rooted device.
And warranty ?...Really, due to "effective" Samsung "support"...who cares about warranty...

Anyone still using the Pixel 2XL?

The forums here seem dead with very little activity. Understandable as most people have moved on from an old phone.
But this phone IMO still holds up very well. Would be great to see more people here.

I’ve never used a 2XL personally, but those older Pixels seem to be great (even as daily drivers). There are also custom ROMs (PixelExperience) that are pretty good.

Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.

I rooted and used custom rom's on almost every phone I owned including Nexus line, but stopped that when I bought a Pixel as it just didn't seem needed.
So my 2XL is still on Android 11. When 12/13 came out I didn't bother. But now I'd like to install a custom rom and get 13 and 14, as I looked at new phones and realized not much has changed except software.
But there's so much less traffic here now, and things have changed and I'm confused - slot a/b, much more complicated steps to flash, no custom kernels etc.

runekock said:
Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.
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are you using a custom rom, if so which one? or are you on stock Android 11?

I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...

runekock said:
I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...
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does safetynet/google pay work?

No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.

runekock said:
No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.
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Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.

neilth said:
Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.
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interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?

ECrispy said:
interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?
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My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.

Used it until I upgraded to a Samsung galaxy S9 a few weeks ago.
Using Crdroid on both devices

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.
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What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
forum.xda-developers.com
I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.

ECrispy said:
What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
forum.xda-developers.com
I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.
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To pass SafetyNet, the bootloader must appear to be locked. The "fix" module makes it look that way. Probably fakes other stats as well.
To run the fix module, root using Magisk is needed. However, it is possible for the rom developer to include the same mechanisms directly in the rom, and in that case, you don't need Magisk or the module.
You are correct that SafetyNet is going away, though it will happen already in June. It is replaced by Play Integrity. However, that is just a new API for the apps that want to check the phone. The underlying detection is the same, and the same workarounds apply.

The thing that will make faking SafetyNet/Play Integrity impossible is hardware attestation.
Currently, the "fix" module makes the phone claim that hardware attestation isn't possible, just as it isn't possible on phones with too old hardware.
AFAIK, no app yet requires that, because it would also make it unable to run on old phones. But that is likely to change gradually in the future.