bleepsake - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,

bleepsake said:
I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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Welcome Back!
1. Yes, google pay and most banking apps work but I believe it depends on what bank you use. (I use Chase)
2. Xposed is questionable at best for the moment, at least for Pie. It's still in beta for 8.1 and, as far as I know, Rovo89 hasn't mentioned any development in that regard
3. Personally, I prefer stock. I use elemental kernel, magisk modules and substratum.
4. Magisk is simple enough to use, but some have had issues since Pie. To get a general idea of how magisk works, start here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/development/2017-11-6-root-pixel-2-xl-t3701176

bleepsake said:
I've been a member since my first ever android device, HTC Wildfire Mini. I've rooted and installed custom ROMs since back then. Ever since grabbing my self a Pixel device I felt all my needs were catered for, until now.
I miss managing my standby time battery using Greenify and a custom kernel. Not that I don't get great standby time on my phone currently but I feel the itch to get tweaking again. haha oh I miss Viper4Android
I was wondering:
1. Can I still have root access and use Google Pay/mobile banking apps?
2. Xposed framework, is that still a thing? haha I used to love those little tweaks.
3. ROMs, what's everyone using?
4. I've not used Magisk before, can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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1. I personally don't use any banking apps for making payments but from doing some reading it seems most will work as long as you don't have the Xposed framework installed.
2. It is a thing up to Oreo. It is still in beta for Oreo, however when I used it I had no issues. It felt stable as far as I'm concerned. However, it did slow down my device a bit and I also found alternate apps for the Xposed mods I used.
3. I'm on Liquid Remix and I love it! HavocOS is really great too. I've been a long time Flash kernel user, but now that is EOL. I have now switched to Kirisakura.
4. You just need to download the Magisk zip from the official thread and flash it in recovery. After you reboot you'll see the Magisk Manager app and it's pretty straightforward and self-explanatory at that point!

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wifi Roms for SM-T807P

Hello XDA!
I recently purchased a SM-T807P (10.5" LTE/Snapdragon) with the intent to use it as a wifi device.
Will anyone tell me which roms work with this device? I've heard the challenge is to find a snapdragon rom?
Its rooted with TWRP on it already. Just need some tasty roms to play with.
If there is ANY way to get cyanogenmod on it that would be my first choice (I would even be willing to offer a bounty!)
I am already running the only one I could find specifically for SM-T807P.
[ROM][TW][SM-T807P Snapdragon] SuperSkilled Basic ROM V1 + Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/rom-superskilled-basic-rom-v1-t3055473
I'm glad to find a custom rom, but am really for a lollipop de-bloated rom.
But ANYTHING that people have tried so far would be great.
OR anything that I should try that wont permanently brick my new tablet!
Thanks all!
Now you have twrp just make a full backup before you go messing and you'll never have to worry about bricking your tablet.
As for roms, pretty much all roms are based on stock, so just modify yours as you see fit.
Debloat, add mods, etc.
ashyx said:
Now you have twrp just make a full backup before you go messing and you'll never have to worry about bricking your tablet.
As for roms, pretty much all roms are based on stock, so just modify yours as you see fit.
Debloat, add mods, etc.
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Considering that I am using a snapdragon version of this tablet maybe you could point me in the right direction about which roms work for that processor versus the other?
I know one of the issues was finding a rom that had the right kernel for my tablet.
No the kernel isn't the issue. Its that the t807p is partitioned differently than what the available ROMs are compatible with. I have the same tablet and as awesome as it it, there is very little support for it. No developers have it and its very difficult to work with without owning one.
There is twrp available which I assume you have used and rooted. There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options. Xposed won't work without a deodexed rom either which is not available. But regular root options and a different launcher (I use nova) and i have it running pretty damn smooth.
agent_00_fiver said:
No the kernel isn't the issue. Its that the t807p is partitioned differently than what the available ROMs are compatible with. I have the same tablet and as awesome as it it, there is very little support for it. No developers have it and its very difficult to work with without owning one.
There is twrp available which I assume you have used and rooted. There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options. Xposed won't work without a deodexed rom either which is not available. But regular root options and a different launcher (I use nova) and i have it running pretty damn smooth.
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I flashed the only KK ROM I found and got FC's to no avail. I then basically wiped the whole thing then odin'd to lollipop. I am stock now and you're right, it's a damn nice device. -- I wouldn't mind de-bloating it myself, do you by any chance have the 'safe list' to reference as far as which apps are good to go. Last thing I wanna do is get rid of some odd-ball system file that creates hell for myself.
Thank you
Just make a backup first with twrp before you go messing then use system app remover to debloat or just freeze with titanium backup . If you get an issue after removing something you can easily restore it.
chargerfn909 said:
I flashed the only KK ROM I found and got FC's to no avail. I then basically wiped the whole thing then odin'd to lollipop. I am stock now and you're right, it's a damn nice device. -- I wouldn't mind de-bloating it myself, do you by any chance have the 'safe list' to reference as far as which apps are good to go. Last thing I wanna do is get rid of some odd-ball system file that creates hell for myself.
Thank you
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No problem. First off, listen to everything xda senior member ashyx says. I have been dealing with my rooted t807p for a while and I have found all his posts on the tab s not just accurate, but extremely useful.
here is a post regarding safe apps to uninstall: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/list-bloated-apps-to-uninstall-sm-t700-t2861180
Now what I have personally taken off my tab s has been the superficial apps. The magazine apps, office apps that I have no use for, While a lot of apps on the post may be safe to delete, it doesnt mean you should if you plan on using your tablet for wireless transfers, casting and what not. I prefer not to touch many of the "behind the scenes" apps. And also it depends on why you are debloating. Are you looking for more storage space? or for better ram and performance? Unfortunately, at least for my use, you wont save much storage space by deleting apps. But freezing them and playing with it makes a big difference. On just a standard recent apps clearing and maybe a push of my "fast reboot" app, and I can get my RAM to run at around 900mb and little battery drainage.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions, I have played with my t807p for quite a while with rooting and have learned pretty well what works and what doesnt. I am no developer like the senior members on here but there aren't many people with our specific tab s.
agent_00_fiver said:
There is a stock ROM on XDA that is lollipop that works awesomely. I just debloated it myself and tuned it with kernel tuner with stock rooted options.
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I realize it's been a year or more, but do you have a link to the Lollipop ROM for T807P? I've tried the "SuperSkilled" ROM but it was KitKat. I looked for a Cyanogen build for this tablet but no luck. Looking for any ROM that's close to AOSP or at least debloated and is Lollipop or MM.

i got my new asus zenfone2 ze551ml should i root?

title says it all thanks
Do you want to use anything that requires root? Then yes. You don't? Then no.
I personally do use apps that require root, plus I enjoy having full control over my phones, so I immediately root, unlock the bootloader, and install a custom recovery. But that's not for everyone.
Just use it for a week and see if there's any functionality you miss. Or to put it a different way: when in doubt, no.
well i use xmod b4 but now i cant even if i root my phone cos its x86 i have htc desire x b4 rooted.
but this fone i see a lot of threads "UNOFFICIAL" on rooting, unlocking bootloader, rom and etc... so im 50/50 i dont
want to brick this phone even if its cheap..
t0per666 said:
well i use xmod b4 but now i cant even if i root my phone cos its x86 i have htc desire x b4 rooted.
but this fone i see a lot of threads "UNOFFICIAL" on rooting, unlocking bootloader, rom and etc... so im 50/50 i dont
want to brick this phone even if its cheap..
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its your choice but i personally would...and the unofficial methods work perfectly fine..im getting the 4GB RAM variant today and as soon as i get it im rooting, unlocking bootloader ,installing my Xposed Modules and stuff.
Depends on why you'd want to root. I like tinkering and using Adaway, so it was a no brainer for me.
smokinjoe2122 said:
Depends on why you'd want to root. I like tinkering and using Adaway, so it was a no brainer for me.
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adaway is always a must for me when I root its the very first thing I install lol
Its your choice. Like what others mentioned. Depends on what you need.
YES. The bloatware is ridiculous. I'm probably going to write a tutorial on how to do everything start to finish if you're buying a new 551. Not that bad if you have all the files. Really easy, but good grief, are all the tutorials out there now confusing. Most don't even tell you, you need to downgrade... Took me hours to figure it out. Finally, have a debloated rom, root, and busybox installed so I can install Kali Linux
Yeah the bloatwares! But i think im gonna wait till android m has been released thanks all?
t0per666 said:
Yeah the bloatwares! But i think im gonna wait till android m has been released thanks all��
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Same, I am going to wait until Android M as well. I found that when you root phones b4 they get their "improved" stock firmware, the modem/wifi/bluetooth never seem to flash the same and are always buggy. I am being careful with this phone because it works quite good minus the terrible battery life, but on my OnePlus One, I found a 40% increase in battery life even on the early early Android M roms. Seeing that there is no roms even being worked on for 6.0, I am going to play it safe...after all, some of the bloat can be removed without root. Of course not the annoying ones though
djfirestorm said:
Seeing that there is no roms even being worked on for 6.0, I am going to play it safe...
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Wrong. Better than just being worked on, an alpha of CM13 has been released today.
kanagawaben said:
Wrong. Better than just being worked on, an alpha of CM13 has been released today.
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Yep that literally posted about the same time I made the comment lol. But having official firmware for Android M built by ASUS themselves, then having it customized by Asus would be better. I do not mean to insult CM, but I have yet to see a truly stable version of their software. Every phone I have had has shown to have issues with CM based roms. It's not the guys customizing the roms, its just the fact that CM is more universal and not necessarily developed for this specific phone by the original coders. Modded code always has issues, and if it comes out perfect, I hope these big companies pay whoever mods it to perfection and gives them a phat paying job. I want ZenUI, its one of the best non AOSP UI out there IMOP. I only want root to clean out the extras I don't want/need. It has more customization than a phone needs for the most part.
I am waiting also.
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Discussion, Benifits of rooting and available tweaks?

Hi guys, I wanted to start a discussion on the benefits of rooting and any available tweaks/mods/apps people are using. Thanks
daveyp187 said:
Hi guys, I wanted to start a discussion on the benefits of rooting and any available tweaks/mods/apps people are using. Thanks
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For me at least until my SW3 updates to Android 6 I see very little point in rooting my SW3... And as yet other than twrp and Kernel I don't feel there are enough mods etc or even Custom roms(if any) to even bother with rooting... On a phone there are huge benifits but a watch that relies on your phone for most everything I see no advantages yet...
I know what you mean, side loading apps is cool, and being able to change the DPI. Firefox and Google keyboard works well, cm cleaner works perfectly and helps uninstalling apps and es file manager is good for installing apps
Be honest. Do you really need a reason beside "it can be done"?
No lol, but I want tweaks
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Be honest. Do you really need a reason beside "it can be done"?
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LOL I guess not. Andhopefull we will get Marshmallow soon and then will have a proper play!
Hopefully, it's been seen in the wild. Just need them to pull their fingers out.
So, while I agree that waiting to root until after 1.4 might be a good idea, here is what I did with root...
Direct wifi access with apps (mostly es File Explorer for on watch app install and uninstall)
Kernel experimenting and tweaking
Uninstall wear apps but keep host apps on phone
All done without a computer (after initial install and setup)
Run most terminal commands with a single tap (like changing dpi)
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currently i am running ubuntu in a chrooted environment on my watch (rooted device needed)
Link?
if this question was dedicated to me, my answer is:
I read posts about android and chrootet linux distros and used a similar technique to do this with my smartwatch 3. As soon as I am allowed to post a DEV-THREAD I will probably make a quick tutorial about it.
Looking forward to it. Not something I've looked at

So my phone is now rooted. Is is worth flashing a rom or keeping it as is?

Usually I root just to get access to certain apps and to install a HOSTS file. My Mi max 3 is rooted but for those of you that are also flashing roms for this phone is it really worth it? Is root enough to enjoy the phone? Seems to me you'd lose many features by using custom roms. Especially three finger swipe for screenshot. Unless some roms have that?
Also, does flashing a custom rom get ride of that aggressive Android battery management? All the battery apps have their sessions segmented up into sections so it's hard to understand just how much SOT you are getting and so on.
DelphinusMinor said:
Usually I root just to get access to certain apps and to install a HOSTS file. My Mi max 3 is rooted but for those of you that are also flashing roms for this phone is it really worth it? Is root enough to enjoy the phone? Seems to me you'd lose many features by using custom roms. Especially three finger swipe for screenshot. Unless some roms have that?
Also, does flashing a custom rom get ride of that aggressive Android battery management? All the battery apps have their sessions segmented up into sections so it's hard to understand just how much SOT you are getting and so on.
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Just enable Camera2API and install GCAM. You are good to go!
Thank you, I have Gcam already but forgot to enable Camera2API.
DelphinusMinor said:
Usually I root just to get access to certain apps and to install a HOSTS file. My Mi max 3 is rooted but for those of you that are also flashing roms for this phone is it really worth it? Is root enough to enjoy the phone? Seems to me you'd lose many features by using custom roms. Especially three finger swipe for screenshot. Unless some roms have that?
Also, does flashing a custom rom get ride of that aggressive Android battery management? All the battery apps have their sessions segmented up into sections so it's hard to understand just how much SOT you are getting and so on.
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It depends on what you want to do. There are many custom roms available all with different features.
Personally i find it to be worthwile, because it gets rid of all bloatware and other preinstalled software one might not want (battery drain/privacy/security).
Many custom roms have plenty of customization options, that includes gesture control.
there is an app for everything of course (say analyzing battery life and SOT), but i find it to be better if functionality works with the rom in the first place.
Figure out what you want (and absolutely do not want) out of your rom, and i'm fairly certain there will be a custom rom for you.
I have installed a custom rom already but i think that at this point no rom can match the fluidness of miui in our phone. There are some touch issues etc.
Also i would like to ask if anybody feels this way, i am thinking to revert back to miui
tisfomic said:
I have installed a custom rom already but i think that at this point no rom can match the fluidness of miui in our phone. There are some touch issues etc.
Also i would like to ask if anybody feels this way, i am thinking to revert back to miui
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I will have access to my bootloader this week, and will try out different roms. Will let you know.
Currently looking at AEX, crdroid and aosip as first candidates.
I have been using aosip for 4 months now, its pretty solid, and was the first nongsi rom for our phone. I look forward to your opinion since yours will be more fresh than what i can recall as difference.

Question Popularity of the device?

Hey guys,
it's been 3,5 years since I've had a Oneplus 5 and couldn't root the other phone that I had during that time.
I'm happy to be back but feel like this device isn't nearly as popular as what the previous models (at least till the 5) have been.
I feel like here's much less root related stuff (like custom Roms) to be found.
Can someone give me an update or correct me if I'm wrong?
Thanks in advance.
Twrp has been out since 20th June...
Not only is TWRP a factor, but the evolution of android as a hole. Rooting isn't necessary these days to achieve desired results. My only intention on rooting my op9 pro is to remove the annoying bloatware from T-Mobile.
I feel like rooting/custom roms really are not worth it anymore.
The custom roms are designed to make the device better but in my experience you end up with more issues than you initially had when stock.
you dont have to flash custom rom when you root your phone. I use root acces for these: block ads, debloating unwanted system apps, some deep theming with swift installer and custom kernels. for example omega kernel is better than oneplus kernel now. especially while we all know that Oneplus heavily throttling well known apps.
you dont have to flash custom rom when you root your phone.
regards
sultan.of.swing said:
I feel like rooting/custom roms really are not worth it anymore.
The custom roms are designed to make the device better but in my experience you end up with more issues than you initially had when stock.
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Well, that is your opinion. From my perspective, I'm not happy with basic Android or provided extension and want to flash whatever suits me better and customize as much as I can. And rooting is must have for some specific apps I need, but generally usefull for proper ad-blocking.
Unbreakeable said:
I'm happy to be back but feel like this device isn't nearly as popular as what the previous models (at least till the 5) have been.
I feel like here's much less root related stuff (like custom Roms) to be found.
Can someone give me an update or correct me if I'm wrong?
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I felt that way at first, coming from a OP7P where my phone had been heavily modded the whole 2 years I used it and I tried about every custom ROM and kernel available. Then I bought the OP9P on release day and there wasn't anything posted in the Dev section for about 2 months. But there were some challenges early on with a brand new device, Android 11, no TWRP until last month, etc., so development is just now really picking up. I expect to see more and more in the coming months.
And like others have said, a lot of us who used to always use custom ROMs have found other ways to mod without having to rely on ROMs, which can sometimes be a hassle. With root, custom kernels, and a whole slew of magisk modules to choose from, I personally don't have a reason to switch to a custom ROM right now, other than boredom.

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