So I read an Article
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Using a feature called verified boot, Android 7.0 Nougat will check the cryptographic integrity to detect if your device has been tampered with.
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With that said, will there ever be root again for android 7 and up?
so, with cm14 at least, i believe root is included. If anything i think it will just disable certain features if the device has been rooted. although i suppose that it would depend on the manufacturer. It will certainly be more difficult with samsung, anyways. I'm done with samsung after this one, though. samsung has been bending root users over the table since knox was first included with consumer phones - since before then, but it was a minor inconvenience before then.
when they didn't include adoptable storage with their marshmallow update, i was OUT! looking at the lg v20 now, i sampled it for a bit and it literally made me want to throw my note 4 in the trash
Look at the Pixel, Android 7.1 + root, It's possible. We're not getting official Android 7.x more likely than not, but it's possible to root 7.x.
I'm running CM14.1 on this device and SuperSU is just fine.
RDChase said:
Look at the Pixel, Android 7.1 + root, It's possible. We're not getting official Android 7.x more likely than not, but it's possible to root 7.x.
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Thank you this is the answer I was looking for.
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Hi everyone, hope you're having an amazing day!
I was wondering if there is a root available for the SM-N910V running 5.0.1. I've looked on google, and there are lots of yes, and no answers. Could someone help clear this up for me?
Thanks!
There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.
Redjay412 said:
There is not a root available for the retail edition of the Verizon note 4 on 5.0.1.
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Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!
JRM_3 said:
Okay, thanks! Hopefully, there'll be one eventually!
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Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.
tonycstech said:
Dont search for root, root method is already there for developers edition, so the fact that ROOT IS ALREADY THERE is 100% true.
What you need to search for is either "unlock bootloader" or "rooted firmware" or "rooted kernel" or something else.
Not much so far.
Just make sure when u search google, click search tools and select more recent results. That way u dont end up finding most popular pages that are many many months old.
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Actually, requesting root for 5.0.1 in this forum is quite appropriate and very different from unlocked bootloaders, rooted firmware or rooted kernel. In fact, installing a new kernel or rom usually requires an unlocked bootloader and getting that done usually requires a root method first so there's some chance of writing a new recovery. With root, methods such as what is now known as SafeStrap (the result of a technique discovered by Birdman, matured by myself and then claimed by another person who's made a habit of claiming others' work as his own) can allow for quite a bit of customization, but typically not so much as a new kernel, let alone different ROMs.
Right now, the state of the Note 4 is that only the Dev Edition (DE) has much of anything going on. You'll find all sorts of frustrating and unclear information about KingRoot, but it's of almost no use unless you think you can abuse it to search for a more complete and permanent root method, but if you knew how to do such a thing, I doubt you'd be here asking for root If you see ROMs or anything else advanced in this forum that doesn't specify it's only for the DE, assume it is.
I've been around since the days of CupCake (and built WiMo roms previously, along with some of the earliest ROMs and rooting) and based on experience, I'd say that the only chance left seeing root on the retail Note 4 is if another root method (new as of today/2015-12-28) is discovered elsewhere that applies to 5.x/5.0.1 OR the Note 4 sees another OTA and we get really lucky (unlikely).
exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.
tonycstech said:
exactly why am returning it and getting S5. But even with S5 its unclear if towelroot will work or not.
I assume it will if S5 was not updated to 5.0+ but runs older 4.4.4. Is this correct assumption ?
Thanks for informative reply.
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Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point
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Yes but I would do some reading in the Verizon s5 forum because there is a build cutoff for root on the s5. If you're getting a new s5 from Verizon the chances are low you will get one without the latest build at this point
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Seller said its still on 4.4.4 which is good news.
I just now need to find a thread on how to root 4.4.4 S5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23681161096070831
Whatever you do don't take any OTA updates, some are forced so get it rooted asap and then use the pre-rooted lollipop images
Am I just missing it, or is there no root or recovery ability for the 915A?
Marshmallow 6.0.1 ****ed mine up when it got pushed down, and Samsung's backup software (all 3 of them) failed to capture my apps and settings properly. Really wish I could've had a better backup ability.
Does or has anyone checked to see if the update to MM 6.0.1 has unlocked the bootloader on the SM-N915A like the Verizon variant?
How does one check?
Att have not released any M updates.
Mine updated to 6.0.1 the same day I bought it . Several small updates happened first. 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 then a small one, and finally 6.0.1. Since I had just bought it, resetting was a simple thought. But so far, no problems, I bought a PowerBear to make it last longer. :fingers-crossed:
Mine had a lot of issues after being updated. MMS didn't work at all. SMS worked sporadically, but would sometimes delete whole threads. Couldn't get a signal in many spots. Google Play Services wouldn't run and couldn't be fixed. Tried a cache-wipe and every other non-destructive method, but nothing worked. Ended up having to factory-reset, and since then the phone works as it should, but none of the backup methods captured key settings. Basically all it did was save contacts and APK's. Lost my 2-factor keys and everything.
I am with you! Since the update to MM, phone has been very laggy/unresponsive. Lock screen lights up for no reason sporadically and I have LOTS of dropped calls/deadspots. VERY irritating! I wish this release would have been tested a bit more before it was OTA pushed out
Hey all! Good news! A 9-year-old bug called the "Dirty Cow" exploit still exists in the Linux/Android kernel can easily grant root on any Android phone!!! See the video below.
http://www.xda-developers.com/9-yea...-dirty-cow-can-root-every-version-of-android/
So there's another bug to exploit for root and even possibly unlocking the bootloader! The bug has been fixed recently in Linux but hasn't been rolled into Android yet.
Could someone make this Windows compatible? http://androiding.how/dirty-cow-root-android/
JEANRIVERA said:
Hey all! Good news! A 9-year-old bug called the "Dirty Cow" exploit still exists in the Linux/Android kernel can easily grant root on any Android phone!!! See the video below.
http://www.xda-developers.com/9-yea...-dirty-cow-can-root-every-version-of-android/
So there's another bug to exploit for root and even possibly unlocking the bootloader! The bug has been fixed recently in Linux but hasn't been rolled into Android yet.
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Have you tried or someone. I'm already installing Linux into my computer.
juanfe1a said:
Have you tried or someone. I'm already installing Linux into my computer.
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did you end up doing it?
Who else could get the root on sm-n915a ??? I also have problems with the transition from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4. (Kitkat). If anyone can help write please how to do this ??
I would also like to know if I am from russia and I need a Russian language that is not available on samsung galaxy note edge n915a. Is it possible to add it like that ?? Sorry for my bad english (googl translate)). Thank you. I am hope for your help
pleasseee i need debrick image for at&t not egde (SM-N915A)
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pleasseee i need debrick image for at&t not egde (SM-N915A)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/stock-att-note-edge-5-1-1-t3241314
You may need to know your build number tho
Just to keep this alive it is now November 2017 any news?
Dr.Lost said:
Just to keep this alive it is now November 2017 any news?
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I wish...
Anything new?
Is it possible to install security updates without upgrading to Nougat (currently on 6.0.1)? Before anyone suggests just upgrading to Nougat, I have some Xposed modules that are only stable in M and they are very important to my workflow.
Thanks
illBelief said:
Is it possible to install security updates without upgrading to Nougat (currently on 6.0.1)? Before anyone suggests just upgrading to Nougat, I have some Xposed modules that are only stable in M and they are very important to my workflow.
Thanks
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Simple answer, possibly, if you use a custom ROM that's on andoid 6 it might merge in the security fixes. But other than that, no.
Answer to your question would be sultanxda rom for op3 which is regularly updated but if you want to remain on oxygen os then I don't think it's possible
I am also thinking about this option too, lots of phone company only have update their ROM for 1 year, that makes every android cell phone is not trustful after 1 year.
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Simple answer, possibly, if you use a custom ROM that's on andoid 6 it might merge in the security fixes. But other than that, no.
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I do, I'm actually on Resurrection Remix but they moved to N quite a few patches ago. Are security updates something only the ROM dev's can include in their patches or is there a zip or apk I can flash in recovery?
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I do, I'm actually on Resurrection Remix but they moved to N quite a few patches ago. Are security updates something only the ROM dev's can include in their patches or is there a zip or apk I can flash in recovery?
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Not that I'm aware of. It might be theoretically possible, but there's no way I know of to do it.
You can update your kernel to a custom version including further security fixes and update all your applications via Google Play, but there are some components of the ROM you can never update without a newer OS.
With time the small security holes will escalate to major bugs as cyber criminals take advantage of those to steal private data.
Okay so I get my pixel XL tomorrow finally after being stuck with a s7 edge with a locked bootloader for a long time now and I was wondering what everyone's favorite rom was. So tell me what your favorite rom is and why you like it the best, or even if you prefer stock android with root. So far I am leaning towards installing paranoid android. Also if you want to you can give me some tips and tricks, I have not messed with a device with an unlocked bootloader in a couple years so. One last thing too, are the devs making oreo roms for the pixel xl or has everyone moved onto new devices already?
Stock Android
If your device ships with 7.1.2 you can stay on that and have a few rom choices. Go to 8.0 you have twrp and root but no real rom choices. 8.1 gives even fewer choices.
Stock Oreo 8.0 and root seems good enough.
This guide can be helpful.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-android-8-oreo-root-stock-rooted-t3660591
8.1 Dev preview with root. Great battery and stable. At least for me. Can't go wrong with Paranoid Android 7.1.2 based ROM either. You'll have to look up how to do either
I used Pure Nexus and it was fantastic, but now I'm on stock 8.0 with root and that's good too. I miss a few customization options from PN, but I can wait for it to be updated to Oreo.
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If your device ships with 7.1.2 you can stay on that and have a few rom choices. Go to 8.0 you have twrp and root but no real rom choices. 8.1 gives even fewer choices.
Stock Oreo 8.0 and root seems good enough.
This guide can be helpful.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-android-8-oreo-root-stock-rooted-t3660591
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Can this guide be use for Dev Prev v8.1?
Especially TWRP and Magisk?
Paranoid Android has a lot of really cool and unique features. I'm on stock though until they release an Oreo release.
Poloasis said:
Can this guide be use for Dev Prev v8.1?
Especially TWRP and Magisk?
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There's a different thread for rooting 8.1 using magisk. Thing it uses stock recovery.
Do you think the devs are working on updating paranoid and pure nexus to 8.0 or have they moved onto something new? Right now I'm just running 8.1 with twrp and root. The battery life is unbelievable.
loeffler23 said:
Do you think the devs are working on updating paranoid and pure nexus to 8.0 or have they moved onto something new? Right now I'm just running 8.1 with twrp and root. The battery life is unbelievable.
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They made a statement on G+ that 8.0 is their sole focus atm
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They made a statement on G+ that 8.0 is their sole focus atm
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Oh okay thank you. I suppose I should follow their pages lol.
Sole focus for
loeffler23 said:
Oh okay thank you. I suppose I should follow their pages lol.
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Pixel phones? They are a different beast...
The forums here seem dead with very little activity. Understandable as most people have moved on from an old phone.
But this phone IMO still holds up very well. Would be great to see more people here.
I’ve never used a 2XL personally, but those older Pixels seem to be great (even as daily drivers). There are also custom ROMs (PixelExperience) that are pretty good.
Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.
I rooted and used custom rom's on almost every phone I owned including Nexus line, but stopped that when I bought a Pixel as it just didn't seem needed.
So my 2XL is still on Android 11. When 12/13 came out I didn't bother. But now I'd like to install a custom rom and get 13 and 14, as I looked at new phones and realized not much has changed except software.
But there's so much less traffic here now, and things have changed and I'm confused - slot a/b, much more complicated steps to flash, no custom kernels etc.
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Very satisfied with taimen as my daily driver.
I think the activity on XDA has declined in general. Both because fewer people play with custom roms. And because they use other ways to communicate e.g. Telegram.
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are you using a custom rom, if so which one? or are you on stock Android 11?
I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...
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I'm using ArrowOS (Android 12), but it hasn't been updated since November, so it's not really worth installing it now. I plan to try crDroid once I overcome my laziness...
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does safetynet/google pay work?
No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.
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No. It used to work, but then Google updated SafetyNet, so all old roms fail. It should work on most new roms, though. Or if you install Magisk and extra hiding.
BTW, most new roms require repartitioning, so more complicated installation (and you lose ~5 GB). I believe LineageOS is without repartitioning, even the unofficial one that passes SafetyNet.
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Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.
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Yes, Lineage OS 20 Official with Android 13 works very well on my Pixel 2XL which I have rooted with Magisk allowing me to tightly control battery charging. This has greatly extended battery life.
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interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?
ECrispy said:
interesting.
Do you mean stopping the charge when it reaches 80% etc? is that why you rooted?
I thought root wasnt really needed and you have to use complicated steps like hide etc to pass safetynet. So without root Lineage will not pass right?
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My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.
Used it until I upgraded to a Samsung galaxy S9 a few weeks ago.
Using Crdroid on both devices
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
My P2XL is no longer my daily driver. However, I don't use anything complicated to pass safetynet on it. Root is required as passing the safetynet checks is not possible otherwise. Outside of that I only need the Displax (sp?) mod version of Kdragon's Universal Safetynet Fix to pass the device and basic integrity checks so I could use Google Pay. Note that passing strong integrity is not possible at all, even if you don't root and lock the bootloader. From my testing only a stock ROM can pass strong integrity.
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What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
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I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.
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What I was told in the other custom rom threads is that SafetyNet will pass without root? I'm not sure now as I also read that root is needed.
[ROM] [13] [taimen] crDroid 9.5 [OFFICIAL] [18.04.2023]
*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...
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I think SafetyNet is still supported for another year at least which is when they will deprecate it.
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To pass SafetyNet, the bootloader must appear to be locked. The "fix" module makes it look that way. Probably fakes other stats as well.
To run the fix module, root using Magisk is needed. However, it is possible for the rom developer to include the same mechanisms directly in the rom, and in that case, you don't need Magisk or the module.
You are correct that SafetyNet is going away, though it will happen already in June. It is replaced by Play Integrity. However, that is just a new API for the apps that want to check the phone. The underlying detection is the same, and the same workarounds apply.
The thing that will make faking SafetyNet/Play Integrity impossible is hardware attestation.
Currently, the "fix" module makes the phone claim that hardware attestation isn't possible, just as it isn't possible on phones with too old hardware.
AFAIK, no app yet requires that, because it would also make it unable to run on old phones. But that is likely to change gradually in the future.