I've got an S9 thats running on Androit Pie and I was wondering, what do I lose if I root my phone ? like do I lose acess to future updates on android pie and such or anything like that ?
Any response is much appreciated friends !
knox tripped 0x1 - in some countries you lose warranty (in europe you don't)
You lose (non reversable, not even if you go back on stock):
Knox,
Samsung pass,
Samsung Pay,
S-Health(you can fix this one with a build.prop tweak)
Secure folder
Moreover, if you get LineageOS there is no Iris scanner, since it's not supported on aosp. you still get it if you are on rooted stock
effry said:
knox tripped 0x1 - in some countries you lose warranty (in europe you don't)
You lose (non reversable, not even if you go back on stock):
Knox,
Samsung pass,
Samsung Pay,
S-Health(you can fix this one with a build.prop tweak)
Secure folder
Moreover, if you get LineageOS there is no Iris scanner, since it's not supported on aosp. you still get it if you are on rooted stock
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Hi !
It's "really" possible to root with "magisk" ? Or other?.... but with systemless method & WITHOUT touch the flagship efuse knox...
Thank in advance!
Loulou-13 said:
Hi !
It's "really" possible to root with "magisk" ? Or other?.... but with systemless method & WITHOUT touch the flagship efuse knox...
Thank in advance!
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To root you'll first have to flash TWRP recovery in Odin, which will trip knox.
No method to root without it.
Really? No other at this time?.......ok thank you
With lots of research about root ....and Samsung i conclude (if i have correctly understood) that with the galaxy S6 ,chainfire have done the exploit to keep devices "clean"(knox flagship,s-healf ,samsung pay......etc....and lots of apps working by creating "systemless" root , but samsung devellop and update all their security.....and Chainfire is losing the fight since S7,S8....last note..."A" series...
There are less and less apps for root devices too...
And it's possible that it's the little begining of the end of development ===> in "theory" it's stupid to buy expensively a phone for to loose functionnalities and security + warranty ....in this case we can buy an old second-hand or a low-end device for to fiddle.
But we need root for some goods optimisations ,debloats and remove spam ....really pity !!!!! And this A series 2017 is a really great phone...
I have seen that towelroot ,pingpongroot....would root (galaxy S7 MM,) without tripping knox but not "really" confirmed here in xda ( the very serious reliable "bible" of android world).....but if it really root without tripping knox ,it's possible to have problem with some samsung components and playstore apps...i don't know .
Loulou-13 said:
With lots of research about root ....and Samsung i conclude (if i have correctly understood) that with the galaxy S6 ,chainfire have done the exploit to keep devices "clean"(knox flagship,s-healf ,samsung pay......etc....and lots of apps working by creating "systemless" root , but samsung devellop and update all their security.....and Chainfire is losing the fight since S7,S8....last note..."A" series...
There are less and less apps for root devices too...
And it's possible that it's the little begining of the end of development ===> in "theory" it's stupid to buy expensively a phone for to loose functionnalities and security + warranty ....in this case we can buy an old second-hand or a low-end device for to fiddle.
But we need root for some goods optimisations ,debloats and remove spam ....really pity !!!!! And this A series 2017 is a really great phone...
I have seen that towelroot ,pingpongroot....would root (galaxy S7 MM,) without tripping knox but not "really" confirmed here in xda ( the very serious reliable "bible" of android world).....but if it really root without tripping knox ,it's possible to have problem with some samsung components and playstore apps...i don't know .
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Yes, I badly want to root my phone too but am afraid to lose warranty. I even contacted the Samsung Customer Service Support in my country to confirm whether rooting will void my warranty and they say that.
BTW I see that your location's in France. I read somewhere here that in EU, tripping Knox doesn't void warranty. So you can just root away without concern.
There are many custom ROM for A5 and A3 but unfortunately no buddy comes with A7 2017
Very big strange
I am also wondering this. Seems like no one love A7 here.
Not exactly.
zoya4u said:
There are many custom ROM for A5 and A3 but unfortunately no buddy comes with A7 2017
Very big strange
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There are a few custom ROMs for A7 2017 32GB model (A720F), you can find them here on XDA.
But I suggest care, there's talk the latest official firmware version blocks customization...
TWRP for example will cause a system lock and your phone can end up a nice paperweight (brick).
Also, don't block OEM RESET (always Allow Oem Reset in Developer options) if you use root / customs.
Samsung security may get you a FRP LOCK should you want to reflash.
Odin won't help if you need to downgrade to an older version (like a backup).
Fixes for such a situation are difficult at the moment.
I'm facing it right now and don't know if my phone will be back up and running again
ODIN'd a Stock Recovery and CP ROM, let's see in some hours!
Dan.911 said:
There are a few custom ROMs for A7 2017 32GB model (A720F), you can find them here on XDA.
But I suggest care, there's talk the latest official firmware version blocks customization...
TWRP for example will cause a system lock and your phone can end up a nice paperweight (brick).
Also, don't block OEM RESET (always Allow Oem Reset in Developer options) if you use root / customs.
Samsung security may get you a FRP LOCK should you want to reflash.
Odin won't help if you need to downgrade to an older version (like a backup).
Fixes for such a situation are difficult at the moment.
I'm facing it right now and don't know if my phone will be back up and running again
ODIN'd a Stock Recovery and CP ROM, let's see in some hours!
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Hummm!
Current situation: FRP lock.
Phone won't get off the boot logo (white screen, "Powered by Android") and FRP/OEM lock are in effect.
I relly shouldn't have fiddle with the new "Directional Lock" feature - Wich can't be disabled, btw.
For anyone in the same situation, pc tricks zone has some remedy but not for A720 at the moment.
I should also point that tutorial videos show an anti-virus alert they claim to be a false positive, but I don't know
- Can't be sure for I didn't try it, but one can't be too cautious. The tool (ADB enabler for FRP) was clean here, says Avira.
But I'm still stuck with ADB/sideload disabled, the stock ROM I found on updato is in ZIP format, useless for ODIN and ADB-e.
ROM files can't simply be converted from ZIP to TAR, they must be cooked - With a "kitchen" tool and a lot of proper knowledge that I, a simple noob/leecher, don't have.
So until finding a TAR file for stock Android 7 (Rev 2) I'm denied access to my US$400 phone just cause Samsung says so.
[A little rant, if I may]
Thanks Samsung will (greed) to enter the digital payment market and enforce security, I, a simple home user who likes the cool mods, debloated systems, freedom and privacy of a custom ROM, (not to mention A720 camera software sucks,) am locked out of my (theirs?) phone. Not buying Sammy again...
Have 2 ROMS for A7 2017 elite stock and experience nougat, all ROMS is bad. stock is more fast lol
I guess there're a couple more:
Diegocbv111 said:
Have 2 ROMS for A7 2017 elite stock and experience nougat, all ROMS is bad. stock is more fast lol
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Right, Elite was first I saw a few months back. Not much custom, just stock with a few adjustments,
but thanks the guy who gave us at least that.
Considering A7 is the worst snapper phone I saw so far and it is not even mentioned in Samsung's USA support site,
nobody will care to develop, I guess.
The A7 is dead. Hello chimium (chinese cheap premium)?
Chances of development?
suvam69 said:
Chances of development?
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Could be... considering all previous Samsung Galaxy a series variants had OFFICIAL TWRP support.
stark1296 said:
Could be... considering all previous Samsung Galaxy a series variants had OFFICIAL TWRP support.
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Getting twrp support isn't everything. I meant active development.
suvam69 said:
Getting twrp support isn't everything. I meant active development.
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TWRP is the key to development.
stark1296 said:
TWRP is the key to development.
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I bought a 6-64 model. Any news on development? When will the kernel source be available???
suvam69 said:
I bought a 6-64 model. Any news on development? When will the kernel source be available???
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Nothing yet as it hasn't been launched in most of the countries yet. Just wait for some more time. And, let's hope for the best.
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Chances of development?
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Yeah there are chances of development and the bootloader can be unlocked, but I doubt the compatibility, responsiveness of the indisplay fingerprint scanner. Most of the OnePlus 6T roms don't support indisplay fingerprint scanner.
Note that unlocking the bootloader (more probably installing the custom recovery) trips the Knox Warranty Bit. It may lead to voiding of device warranty, though I suppose Samsung may still repair the device by charging for the same.
However, it definitely permanently disables Knox on the device so you cannot use Secure Folder, Samsung Pay (not sure of the impact on Pay Mini), Samsung Health, Samsung Pass or any other enterprise features.
t3chg33k said:
Note that unlocking the bootloader (more probably installing the custom recovery) trips the Knox Warranty Bit. It may lead to voiding of device warranty, though I suppose Samsung may still repair the device by charging for the same.
However, it definitely permanently disables Knox on the device so you cannot use Secure Folder, Samsung Pay (not sure of the impact on Pay Mini), Samsung Health, Samsung Pass or any other enterprise features.
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Bro all we need is rom development (true potential of exy9610+gcam to name a few). Not these silly knox bloat features.
suvam69 said:
Bro all we need is rom development (true potential of exy9610+gcam to name a few). Not these silly knox bloat features.
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Yeah I am really excited with GCam the night sight and HDR+ Is amazing on GCam,
I am also waiting for a Lineage OS port , Samsung UI is not smooth.Although the fingerprint scanner won't work on ROMS.
suvam69 said:
Bro all we need is rom development (true potential of exy9610+gcam to name a few). Not these silly knox bloat features.
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I like the fact that the Secure Folder apps are completely isolated from the normal apps. This has enabled me to install certain apps without them being detected by other apps while also allowing me to maintain dual instances of non-messaging apps. It also prevents any malware from infecting the protected apps. Also, I use Samsung wearables for which I need Samsung Health while Samsung Pass is useful for form filling though I use a different password manager.
So, I suppose it depends on what you want from the device as ROM development with Exynos and in-screen fingerprint reader isn't going to be great. Instead, tweaked Odin ROMs that don't trigger the Knox bit would be great.
How I can turn on camera2API in samsung Galaxy A50 and when Samsung A50 will get the Gcam?
Book Bosomed said:
How I can turn on camera2API in samsung Galaxy A50 and when Samsung A50 will get the Gcam?
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Check oem unlock & usb debugging on your A50.
Enter into fastboot mode.
Connect to pc, open adb shell.
Check via commands whether your device is properly connected.
Use : setprop persist.camera.HAL3.enabled 1
This will enable your camera2api without touching any system prop files.
The prob is, i don't know how to fastboot on a samsung device, lol.
stark1296 said:
Could be... considering all previous Samsung Galaxy a series variants had OFFICIAL TWRP support.
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Any chanches to unlock the bootloader? . I have OEM unlocked and USB debg activated, but when i go to download mode, i dont have any option to unlock the bootloader. I have tried to hold Vol. Up key for a long time but nothing. Can you give some advice?? Thanks!
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
Secure folder, Samsung pay and any app that makes use of knox
Most other apps can be made to work with tweaks
rafadiego.gomes said:
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
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Most important question you should ask , What do i gain by rooting ? ad blocking ? system ui theming ? all of these things can done without rooting but if you are using exynos version you will get most of lost functionality by going custom rom route.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/development/29-08-19-n975fds-dr-ketan-rom-t3962839
rafadiego.gomes said:
I couldn`t find some kind of list of which apps I lose access to if I root the Note 10/10+.
The last android fone i had was in android 4.4, so its been a long time.
I want to root, but it would be nice to know the apps that i can't use if i rooted.
Thanks.
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If you want just root + Stock ROM
- Secure folder
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung Pass
- Samsung Health
- Google Pay - There are some workaroun, search XDA
- Many banking and other app but should be fixed with magisk hide
but I believe those app can be run if you reboot to device without root.
From above many things can be fixed with some patch like
- Secure folder can work
- Samsung health can work
- Samsung Pay can be used with Gear watch
only samsung pass won't work but you can use Google's auto fill option instead.
Good to know all these things. I decided to root it when it arrives. Thank you.
rafadiego.gomes said:
Good to know all these things. I decided to root it when it arrives. Thank you.
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Is rooting difficult and is it really worth rooting? Isnt it possible to mess up your phone / void warranty? Seems like a big risk just for a little customization
dr.ketan said:
If you want just root + Stock ROM
- Secure folder
- Samsung Pay
- Samsung Pass
- Samsung Health
- Google Pay - There are some workaroun, search XDA
- Many banking and other app but should be fixed with magisk hide
but I believe those app can be run if you reboot to device without root.
From above many things can be fixed with some patch like
- Secure folder can work
- Samsung health can work
- Samsung Pay can be used with Gear watch
only samsung pass won't work but you can use Google's auto fill option instead.
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Hello
WHen i change ro.config.tima from 1 to 0 in build prop of galaxy note 10+
and i reboot
it goes back to 1 and samsung health still doesn't work.
Do you know what i can do ?
Thank you
Blaalad12 said:
Is rooting difficult and is it really worth rooting? Isnt it possible to mess up your phone / void warranty? Seems like a big risk just for a little customization
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Yes it is worth rooting in any aspect.
Rooting is not "little customization" rather then deep changes "under the hub" and "risk" is only for those who doesn't know why and what to do with rooted device.
And warranty ?...Really, due to "effective" Samsung "support"...who cares about warranty...
Hello XDA community,
I am considering installing a custom ROM on my Samsung Galaxy S22 (Exynos variant) and would like to gather some information regarding the implications of this action, especially if I decide to revert back to the official Samsung firmware later on.
Apps Compatibility: Which apps will no longer work if I switch back to the stock firmware after installing a custom ROM? I understand that tripping the Knox flag by rooting or installing custom ROMs can cause certain Samsung apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, and Secure Folder to stop functioning. But what about other apps? Specifically, I am concerned about the compatibility of my banking app from Belfius (Belgium) with features like contactless payments.
OTA Updates: Will I still be able to receive Over-The-Air (OTA) updates once I have installed a custom ROM and then switched back to the official firmware?
I understand that the Exynos variant might not differ significantly from the Snapdragon variant in this context, but I thought it's worth mentioning.
Any insights or experiences that you could share would be immensely helpful. Thank you in advance!
So first thing you need to understand is that you would be installing a GSI and not a fully maintained device based Rom.
That means forget about the timely updates.
Secondly, GSIs are not optimized for particular phones and you might encounter bugs. From what I remeber, VOLTE won't work on GSI and for some phones even Bluetooth audio and mobile Hotspot won't work. Not to mention erratic battery life and unoptimized system.
App compatibility won't be an issue. But you have to say good bye to the samsung ecosystem. Also, if you do decide to install a custom rom, you will trip Knox and a few apps like secure folder, Samsung pay, samsung pass and Health might not work (unless they are patched). As for banking apps, they should work fine unless you are rooting your phone. If you do, you just to install a magisk module to pass the play stone security settings (forgot the name of it).
Also, if you again decide to go back on the stock rom, you just need to relock the bootloader and you should be able to get Ota updates again.
Overall, it's a good experience but you will grow tired of the bugs present in the GSI soon.