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Also, tell from which device you are upgrading or staying...?
Big news!
quote from http://bgr.com/2018/02/25/galaxy-s9-preorder-pricing-best-deals-t-mobile-vs-verizon/
"Best Buy’s preorders will open on Friday, March 2nd, and Best Buy has a big headline offer to try and entice customers. Best Buy customers save $100 when preordering on a Verizon, AT&T or Sprint plan, on top of saving up to $350 when trading in a qualified smartphone. That’s total savings of $450, although as we note below, Verizon and AT&T are charging significantly more than Samsung for the device, so assuming Best Buy is using Verizon and AT&T’s pricing, the savings compared to buying from Samsung are not as great as it might seem."
That's 390 for S9+ and 270 for S9
What!
Currently have S7 Edge and i'n thinking to get the S9+, but i'm very disappointed with the design.
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I'm coming from a Oneplus 3, i really like this phone(i've tryied s8) but i'm not sure because of modding barriers like locked bootloader and knox counter
Nah!!! Sticking with the best phone...One Plus 5t....
If it doesnt come with the OEM unlock issue the note 8 has (talking about exynos, i dont waste money on crapdragon versions) i will get one.
If it does then ill pass on it like i did not on the note 8.
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In all likelihood I'll be going to the S9+ from the Essential PH-1. The Essential was a terrible choice for me but I couldn't justify over $1000 for a pixel 2XL. I'll likely get the S9+ through my carrier. I've gotten quite used to stock Android over the years so a skinned version on the Galaxy will be different. We'll see....
I'll be getting the S9+ at the beginning of 2019, when the price starts to decrease a little. I'll be upgrading from my S7 Edge which just turned a year old few weeks ago.
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I'll be getting the S9+ at the beginning of 2019, when the price starts to decrease a little. I'll be upgrading from my S7 Edge which just turned a year old few weeks ago.
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Dont do it.
I got a S8+ last december and i regretted it. battery was the worst (3,5-4h sot max) and the software lag too annoying. samsung is good for the first 6 months, then they begin to age rapidly
everybody knows that so i had sell my s8+ for a lot less than i bought it for. got me a mate10pro, happy now.
if u want s9 so badly, try to look for second hand around 2 months after launch... i think thats the better choice if you still want to experience the high
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Dont do it.
I got a S8+ last december and i regretted it. battery was the worst (3,5-4h sot max) and the software lag too annoying. samsung is good for the first 6 months, then they begin to age rapidly
everybody knows that so i had sell my s8+ for a lot less than i bought it for. got me a mate10pro, happy now.
if u want s9 so badly, try to look for second hand around 2 months after launch... i think thats the better choice if you still want to experience the high
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I would have to agree on the first part, where Samsung's software does not age beautifully most of the time (my S7 edge thankfully is still running well and has maintained it's fluidity even after a year). Samsung still needs to learn to prioritise on optimisation IMHO. They focused wayy to much on the UI/UX till they forgot about the core system itself.
And yeah. I might also consider going for a second hand S9+ if the reviews don't go according to my expectations. I'll be waiting for MKBHD's (popular tech guy) review and will be watching it the moment it becomes available.
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I would have to agree on the first part, where Samsung's software does not age beautifully most of the time (my S7 edge thankfully is still running well and has maintained it's fluidity even after a year). Samsung still needs to learn to prioritise on optimisation IMHO. They focused wayy to much on the UI/UX till they forgot about the core system itself.
And yeah. I might also consider going for a second hand S9+ if the reviews don't go according to my expectations. I'll be waiting for MKBHD's (popular tech guy) review and will be watching it the moment it becomes available.
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I will agree, upgrading from a s7e is useless, the only reason that can be is a little more processing power, but still it isn't enough, and s7e for me too is running smoothly although there had been issues with build quality, but i really don't think mate 10 is more in performance than s8, maybe in other areas like ui etc it could be. I will pass on s9 and wait until there is a phone with real upgrade not some marketing gimmicks.
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I will agree, upgrading from a s7e is useless, the only reason that can be is a little more processing power, but still it isn't enough, and s7e for me too is running smoothly although there had been issues with build quality, but i really don't think mate 10 is more in performance than s8, maybe in other areas like ui etc it could be. I will pass on s9 and wait until there is a phone with real upgrade not some marketing gimmicks.
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True, the mate10pro has exceptional battery life as well as lag free UI though. Before s8 I had a huawei Nexus 6p, had great battery life too (got warranty replacement after 1.5 years with fresh battery) so the s8 kinda feld like a downgrade.
I think the CPU speed is highly overrated nowadays and does not make a real impact on everyday use. (Apples Chip ist supposedly 2x faster than 835 but does the iPhone feel 2x faster?
All in all I upgraded for the bezelless screens... Anything else my Nexus 6p was almost as good at.
Anyone else who has a 2016 flagship (s7e or mate 9 or iPhone 7) should not upgrade for another reason than the larger screens... Anything else in the new phones has only improved a little and does not justify the price in my opinion (unless having the latest tech is part of your lifestyle)
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True, the mate10pro has exceptional battery life as well as lag free UI though. Before s8 I had a huawei Nexus 6p, had great battery life too (got warranty replacement after 1.5 years with fresh battery) so the s8 kinda feld like a downgrade.
I think the CPU speed is highly overrated nowadays and does not make a real impact on everyday use. (Apples Chip ist supposedly 2x faster than 835 but does the iPhone feel 2x faster?
All in all I upgraded for the bezelless screens... Anything else my Nexus 6p was almost as good at.
Anyone else who has a 2016 flagship (s7e or mate 9 or iPhone 7) should not upgrade for another reason than the larger screens... Anything else in the new phones has only improved a little and does not justify the price in my opinion (unless having the latest tech is part of your lifestyle)
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Agreed , but iphone 8 and X is almost 2x faster in real life too, so yes cpu power does impact in real life, search for their app loading times and video editing times on web, the fastest android phones were note 8 and then s8, they were lagging almost 1.5x.
And yes mate 10 got excellent battery life too thanks to its 4000 mah battery, i think every phone should have atleast 4000 mah battery these days,
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Agreed , but iphone 8 and X is almost 2x faster in real life too, so yes cpu power does impact in real life, search for their app loading times and video editing times on web, the fastest android phones were note 8 and then s8, they were lagging almost 1.5x.
And yes mate 10 got excellent battery life too thanks to its 4000 mah battery, i think every phone should have atleast 4000 mah battery these days,
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Well I don't know anyone who is editing video on his phone... That's what I mean with everyday a friend friend of mine has iPhone 8 and it doesn't feel significantly faster in my opinion, it's more about ram keeping apps for running (so you don't actually need to look for launch speed) and internet speed
Yes I think the biggest Upgrade in the future needs to be bigger batteries in order to keep up with the screens and all the other new stuff
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Well I don't know anyone who is editing video on his phone... That's what I mean with everyday a friend friend of mine has iPhone 8 and it doesn't feel significantly faster in my opinion, it's more about ram keeping apps for running (so you don't actually need to look for launch speed) and internet speed
Yes I think the biggest Upgrade in the future needs to be bigger batteries in order to keep up with the screens and all the other new stuff
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You know I have the s7 edge since release, it is still a beast. Can handle any game on the play store, lags here and there. But dont thing upgrading is worth it imo. Maybe when foldable phones come lol
Which custom rom & kernel developers will be getting the S9/S9+ ?
If not, will they be getting the Note 9 instead ?
I think i would be upgrading because this sounds like a perfect replacement for iphone-7. As for performance , I think it depends individual to individual on his config and usage patterns. There are 3 galaxy phones in my house including an aging s6 edge and all seem to be working fine.
Yes, its hard to match iphones in their speed and zero-lag but there are so many trade-offs that purchasing a iphone ahead of a s9 or a note-8 is not a worthy option.
I'm on Galaxy Note 4 and LineageOS 14.1. UHD video recording is not working and I need it. Better low light performance too on S9+. I don't like the curved glass though. I'd also much rather take a removable battery over any kind of IP rating but gotta move along with the times, I guess. I don't undertsand the all-glass exterior idea at all - it's slippery and a protective case is a must, adding to the cost.
Definitely getting an S9 as long as there's no down payment on Jump on Demand. On a v30 now, and the thing is just crap. It stutters - literally. As in the sound stutters and I have to reboot to fix it. It also has all kinds of lag on bluetooth stuff. 8 years on Android and never had anything this bad. Going back to Samsung and not looking at LG for a long time again.
I will stay on my S8 for now... S9 designed so bad... ?
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Definitely getting an S9 as long as there's no down payment on Jump on Demand. On a v30 now, and the thing is just crap. It stutters - literally. As in the sound stutters and I have to reboot to fix it. It also has all kinds of lag on bluetooth stuff. 8 years on Android and never had anything this bad. Going back to Samsung and not looking at LG for a long time again.
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I wouldn't buy a US or Canadian version, the bootloader's will be locked again...total waste of money.
Go exynos for sure, the OEM unlock issue is a helluva alot better to have than have the device be totally locked down.
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So i am one of those unlucky sort who had prebooked note 7 and couldnt get hands on and was refunded the cash 2 months post fiasco. i since then have carried multiple spare phones just waiting for note 8. when note 8 released though i sadly couldnt be one of the early adopters and now that i am looking into buying one, i am held back by the performance new exynos/qualcomm chips are promising to bring on the table.
Currently i am using an s3 (some AOSP Rom ofcourse) but i am in bit of a fix here. should i buy note 8 now or do you guys think s9+ is really worth the wait?
Thank you.
Note 8 is a great phone with S-Pen so i would go for it.
I've been torn on this as well. At first I was all about the new tech and said I'd wait. Then really looking at the Note 8 it is really nice device and can get it now and at a discount.
Though in the end with the additional performance improvements (CPU/GPU), process improvements to improve battery life, and camera features... its pretty hard to not say yes to the new S9's. Let alone the S9+ which will be basically a note without the pen and more power. And just being just weeks away now if you haven't gone out and gotten one and can wait, really its probably the best option.
I am in the process of either buying a P20, or an S9. This is a 35 vs 40 euro per month question (10 total as I need two phones) and since it is 2 years contract I am very interested in the reliability part of the phone, hardware, and software wise.
I am interested in using the phone mainly for communication calls/whatsapp, but also very important for taking pictures and recording videos. No gaming for me.
Reviews, in general, are very good about the P20, but reviews are short-lived usage experiences, and my only experience with Huawei (a Hero 6X), has not been very good: slow to update, the phone freezes from time to time (it is obviously not a flagship, I know), so I was wondering, now that you have (hopefully) used the phone for a while, will you get a P20 or an S9 if you had the chance?
As a former user of the S7 Edge, I tend to think the Samsung is a more reliable phone, but I wanted to hear from real users here.
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Without headphones from bose i would definitely choose s9.
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Without headphones from bose i would definitely choose s9.
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Thanks, but I don't understand your answer. If you had bose headphones you will choose the P20? why?
I have choosen p20 because of bose headphones. This phone with star price 599£ is bot worth it. No amoled, no stereo speakers, no water resistant, bad selfie camera, plastic frame around screen and back glass, pure emui experience ( you cant scan gift cards with android pay f.ex), now huawei is locking bootloader pernamently so you will be not able to mode your phone in the future.
Go with samsung s9 or lg g7 or p20 pro. P20 is worth 550$ imo
S9 price is a joke, too much money for too little improvement compared to S8, for the price of S9 you can get P20 & Moto G6 plus
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S9 price is a joke, too much money for too little improvement compared to S8, for the price of S9 you can get P20 & Moto G6 plus
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Thanks, like I said here the option is the P20, for 35 euro, or 840 euro per 24 months, including service, or 40 euro for the S9, or 960 euro per 24 months, so the difference between the P20 vs the S9 us only 120 euros.
I like the P20 in papers, but I am not so sure about the reliability of it. That is my main concern with it.
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I have a friend who bought the S9, I on the other hand bought the P20.
I can tell you that the S9 is a little bit powerfull than the P20, other than that it does not impress me in any other way ( except the price tag ).
Take S9. P20 Community is dying before it was coming Up, since Huawei will stop provide bootloader unlock possibility soon.
Or take a look at the Sony XZ2 compact or Honor 10. The Honor 10 is very similar but cheaper, the XZ2 Compact costs about the same and is much faster and has better battery life than both the P20 and S9.
From a reliability standpoint, the Huawei charger heats up the phone a lot, shortening the lifespan of the battery considerably. I wish they used the same kind of fast charging as oneplus.
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Take S9. P20 Community is dying before it was coming Up, since Huawei will stop provide bootloader unlock possibility soon.
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Thanks.
ikkefc3 said:
Or take a look at the Sony XZ2 compact or Honor 10. The Honor 10 is very similar but cheaper, the XZ2 Compact costs about the same and is much faster and has better battery life than both the P20 and S9.
From a reliability standpoint, the Huawei charger heats up the phone a lot, shortening the lifespan of the battery considerably. I wish they used the same kind of fast charging as oneplus.
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The XZ2 is more expensive here than the P20, S9, S9+, and almost as expensive as the P20 Pro.
Interesting options are: P20 $35, S9 $40, Mate 10 $42, S9+ $45, P20 Pro $50, Note 8 $50, XZ2 Compact $50
I think I'll go with the s9 or s9+
Go with the S9 for Headphone jack, amoled screen, better camera and micro sd slot.
S9 has better dev support also unlike the P20.
Dont bother with s9... Samsung software is rubbish, had s9 plus for a month.. took em 2 months just to solve calls issue.. absolutely a joke.. so for the first time in long time i jumped the ship and moved to pixel... And absolutely bo regrets.. amazing phones in software wise.. and camera etc.. please mind i am not here to push u towards pixie, but from personal experience over the years, finally realized how bad sammy software is.. and they still sucks on updates, anyway if u wait a day or two i can tell u how p20 is.. ordered one for my missus and should be here today, contact was 300 quid cheaper over two years compared to likes of s9, but honestly i would still pick pixel 2 xl here if u lookin at phone that's supported for the next two,three years with updates,
Personally I went with the P20 because I like the overall design better and the pricing for me was lower. P20 is a good phone but Huawei itslef is being retarded. I don't recommend P20 just because of how Huawei treats us.
On the other hand I love the back camera and overall performance. It's a good phone and should last quite a while, but too bad it's in Huaweis hands.
Never had a Samsung so can't tell, fanboys can be hard on both sides but seems like the s9 will suit you better.
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The question here is whether the phone is reliable, from that point of view the answer is a resounding yes. It is a brilliant phone that has not let me down since I got the phone 2 months ago. Everything just works and works very well. If you are looking into unlocking, rooting etc then the question changes and the answers are reflected in the other posts. TBH I have not rooted a phone since my LG G5 2 years ago and quite frankly I personally have no need to root anymore. The phones are pretty fast and I don't flash a new rom every few weeks.
I've never been as happy with a phone as I am with p20. Had Samsung, Sony, LG.
Hello, I got the phone a week ago. I was using samsung before that. I am very happy with the P20. I think samsung's interface is a bit laging and updates are very slow. Camera performance is very good. Fingerprint reader and face recognition work incredibly fast. I was undecided between S9 and P20, but the P20 is a much better phone. There are also people who say that Huawei is threatening people; but how do you know the others don't? Nobody is as innocent as they seem. If you're not going to root your phone, take the P20.
I bought it for 400€, I love the phone, the battery lasts very long, the camera is remarkably good, especially in low light conditions and the phone feels fast and smooth. The only problem, which has more to do with the brand rather than the phone, is the prohibition to unlock bootloaders via official way, although there are shady services who charge from 30$ to 50$ to unlock your phone. If flashing stuff is not important to you then go for it, although I hope a free method of obtaining the unlock code will eventually be leaked.
This is my first Huawei.Before I had a couple of Samsung phones.I'm satisfied with the P20:great battery life,great camera,good price and I allready have android 9.For now I don't see any reason to miss Samsung.
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I bought it for 400€, I love the phone, the battery lasts very long, the camera is remarkably good, especially in low light conditions and the phone feels fast and smooth. The only problem, which has more to do with the brand rather than the phone, is the prohibition to unlock bootloaders via official way, although there are shady services who charge from 30$ to 50$ to unlock your phone. If flashing stuff is not important to you then go for it, although I hope a free method of obtaining the unlock code will eventually be leaked.
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I find no eligible reasons to unlock the bootloader of P20 since there is no usable custom ROM, kernel & custom recovery, also no real developers working toward this phone. Thankfully, EMUI 9 features already cover all of my basic needs.
I am planning on buying the Galaxy S9 as an upgrade from my current LeEco Le Pro3 for $349 off of Cricket since they have a pretty good 50% off deal.
My question is: Is the phone still worth getting even today? Should I buy a different phone or should I just wait until S855 powered devices start coming out?
What do you guys think? And if you think I should buy it, how good is the SOT? (worried about the small battery)
The phone is amazing. If you wait till jan or feb you will get some big deals.
The only drawback is battery and the lack of updates. But hoping that improves with OneUI.
The UI might be a turn off for someone like me.
I personally am going to trade it in for a s10
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I am really enjoying this phone, but the battery isn't very good for the price, at least for me... I don't know... There's a lot of guys posted in (screen on time) thread that they get 6, 7 or even 8 hours of SOT on their S9. Also my friend can easily get more than a 24 hours of usage with more than 6 hours of SOT.
For that price I say yes it is a very very good phone. If it were paying full retail price, I'd advise to do some comparison shopping first.
great phone with mediocre battery. Perfect size for me.
I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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I would say no. You get
CONS:
a smaller outer display
A smaller battery,
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a kinda invisible under display inner camera, which is a worse compared to fold 2.
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I would say no. You get
CONS:
a smaller outer display
A smaller battery,
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a tad better processor
a kinda invisible under display inner camera, which is a worse compared to fold 2.
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Thanks, that is what I was thinking. Just wish the z fold 2 had a better inner screen protector like the 3 as the rubbery feeling kind of sucks on the 2. I think I will just keep the 2 and see what they do with the z fold 4 next year and then maybe upgrade to that.
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Thanks, that is what I was thinking. Just wish the z fold 2 had a better inner screen protector like the 3 as the rubbery feeling kind of sucks on the 2. I think I will just keep the 2 and see what they do with the z fold 4 next year and then maybe upgrade to that.
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You will probably be able to get a better deal on trade in, too. I managed to snaffle an au$1,300 trade in discount (~us$900) plus half price care + by trading in my Z Flip that only cost au$1,000 last year. It was a limited time offer, and Samsung often do these.
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I would say no. You get
CONS:
a smaller outer display
A smaller battery,
PROS
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a kinda invisible under display inner camera, which is a worse compared to fold 2.
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I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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The outer display is the exact same size on both devices. And the battery size is very close. 4500 vs 4400.
You also get water resistance and SPen compatibility.
I had the ZF2 for almost a year, and the ZF2 has been a great upgrade, well worth the money in my opinion. $500 to upgrade is a really good real, but I think Best Buy has some pretty crazy offers right now too.
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I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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I would say what's $500 worth to you. $500 isnt much to some, I spend more on dinner. So I would upgrade all day everyday. I will say that the z fold 3 is the first phone in years that I won't switch from until it's successor comes out (the Motorola RAZR back in 2004 was the last). It does everything right for me. Especially since I use the camera only once a month.
I would upgrade without question. If not just for the fact that I live in an area with bad reception and the F3 is getting much better reception then the F2 to the point where I don't have to be on wifi calling to use the phone on the F3. The internal screen is much better to the touch and definitely feels tougher and certainly not as sticky and rubbery as the F2 screen does...love the F3.
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The outer display is the exact same size on both devices. And the battery size is very close. 4500 vs 4400.
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Whilst battery is 5% smaller, SOT & usage from a full charge is 25 to 30% less on the Fold3..
Definitiely a much worse battery drain on an Fold3 vs Fold2. I would NOT upgrade right now!
(I do have my fingers crossed Android 12 closes the battery life gap ... but am not holding my breath).
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Whilst battery is 5% smaller, SOT & usage from a full charge is 25 to 30% less on the Fold3..
Definitiely a much worse battery drain on an Fold3 vs Fold2. I would NOT upgrade right now!
(I do have my fingers crossed Android 12 closes the battery life gap ... but am not holding my breath).
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I've had the ZF3 since launch and yes at first battery life was terrible. All new devices are like that. Go through ANY forum here, and you'll see complaints on every single one of them about battery life at launch. ALL of them.
But it has improved and I would say it's very comparable now to the ZF2, which I owned for almost a year.
I would definitely upgrade from the ZF2 to the ZF3 given a good deal.
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I've had the ZF3 since launch and yes at first battery life was terrible. All new devices are like that. Go through ANY forum here, and you'll see complaints on every single one of them about battery life at launch. ALL of them.
But it has improved and I would say it's very comparable now to the ZF2, which I owned for almost a year.
I would definitely upgrade from the ZF2 to the ZF3 given a good deal.
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I had a Fold3 for 2 months and battery life was CONSISTENTLY 25 - 30% poorer than on the F2
Some Forum members point at Snapdragon 888 as a power hog. Other people have other ideas
Constant factor for me is 25% WORSE battery life.on F3 over what I had with F2
@OP Don't upgrade from a F2 to an F3 if getting a full days use on one full charge is important to you
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I had a Fold3 for 2 months and battery life was CONSISTENTLY 25 - 30% poorer than on the F2
Some Forum members point at Snapdragon 888 as a power hog. Other people have other ideas
Constant factor for me is 25% WORSE battery life.on F3 over what I had with F2
@OP Don't upgrade from a F2 to an F3 if getting a full days use on one full charge is important to you
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I didn't have the Fold 2 but I had S20 Ultra and the Fold 3 battery time is better than the S20 Ultra's.
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I didn't have the Fold 2 but I had S20 Ultra and the Fold 3 battery time is better than the S20 Ultra's.
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Cool yes coming from different devices will be a different experience for Fold3 upgrade
I was trying to answer the OP who has an F2 and asked if it's worth the upgrade to F3
I can only offer my experience of battery and that it has been excellent. I have about 40% left at the end of a day.
Thats with alot of spotify streaming, gps/fitbit as I use for a run, YouTube for about an hour, with Twitter and Facebook thrown in for extra.
The real question is if you didn't have the Z fold 3 and being 60 days away when the S22 Ultra/Note with Spen hits the stores is it even worth upgrading? You know many on XDA will be running to the S22 Ultra with built in Spen when it hits.
I currently have the S21Ultra and love the Note line. Saki will be Flossy will be all saying to get it when it hits.
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The real question is if you didn't have the Z fold 3 and being 60 days away when the S22 Ultra/Note with Spen hits the stores is it even worth upgrading? You know many on XDA will be running to the S22 Ultra with built in Spen when it hits.
I currently have the S21Ultra and love the Note line. Saki will be Flossy will be all saying to get it when it hits.
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-If- Samsung gets their sorry Note act together it will likely be in the fall of next year.
Even if that happens Android has dropped the ball twice now with Android 11 and 12.
It will be probably closer to 2 years before their scoped storage mess gets effectively implemented.
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-If- Samsung gets their sorry Note act together it will likely be in the fall of next year.
Even if that happens Android has dropped the ball twice now with Android 11 and 12.
It will be probably closer to 2 years before their scoped storage mess gets effectively implemented.
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the S22 Ultra IS the Note It's called the S22 Ultra but it's just the Note with a new name. Going forward the Ultra is the Note device released with the S series.
I don't like the Android 12 myself. My S21 Ultra is flawless, was and Android 12 it's acting buggy now. Seeing a lot of people complaining about it with their Fold devices as well.
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the S22 Ultra IS the Note It's called the S22 Ultra but it's just the Note with a new name. Going forward the Ultra is the Note device released with the S series.
I don't like the Android 12 myself. My S21 Ultra is flawless, was and Android 12 it's acting buggy now. Seeing a lot of people complaining about it with their Fold devices as well.
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We'll see what the rabid box of gerbils know as Samsung does in the coming year.
I bought my second new N10+ 2 months ago because I like them a lot, they're a solid workhorse and don't want to deal with the multiple issues both Samsung and Android are having with their new technologies. I'm running on Android 9 and 10 with zero incentive to go beyond Android 10.
Of course it depends what's important to the individual. I've never had any major security issues even on the 2 yo Pie variant, but scoped storage would trash my freeware office app for starters.
Color rendering, good low light display usability and battery life are more important variable refresh rates. Add to that I know the N10+'s display is long lived and reliable.
5G isn't worth the power trade off as 4G gets it done and will even speed up a bit because of the 5G users reducing the pressure on the 4G bandwidth.
A faster Snapdragon and ram memory be nice but that be offset somewhat by scoped storage and forced encryption.
A SD card slot is mandatory; I need my dual drive computer.
I prefer the square display corners immensely as well as the 7mm profile with no cam hump.
Absolutely insist on a native spen, preferably on the right side and with bt remote capability.
Samsung runs hot and cold.
When they're running what you consider to be hot, grab it.
When they're cold, let Samsung hold on to it
When in doubt, wait.
blackhawk said:
I bought my second new N10+ 2 months ago because I like them a lot, they're a solid workhorse and don't want to deal with the multiple issues both Samsung and Android are having with their new technologies. I'm running on Android 9 and 10 with zero incentive to go beyond Android 10.
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Each to their own.... N10+ x2 and Android 9 and 10. on them. You are in a unique group with a membershuip of 1!
I will stick to using the latest & greates devices with the current OS & all available security patches applied as soon as released.
(like 99.9999% of XDA users I imagine)
dezborders said:
Each to their own.... N10+ x2 and Android 9 and 10. on them. You are in a unique group with a membershuip of 1!
I will stick to using the latest & greates devices with the current OS & all available security patches applied as soon as released.
(like 99.9999% of XDA users I imagine)
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Remember Google stopped reporting their user Android version adaptation... we know why.
Had Goggle and particularly Samsung done their job well... I be holding it
blackhawk said:
Remember Google stopped reporting their user Android version adaptation... we know why.
Had Goggle and particularly Samsung done their job well... I be holding it
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To he honest I have used Android 10 11 and 12 on many brands and devices and never had any serious issues with any of them - never ever ...
In the last 8 weeks I have used Android 12 as daily driver on Xiaomi Mi11, Google Pixel 6 Pro and S21 Ultra and all of them were stable and smooth as butter... And all with spectacular battery life over my own previous Android 11 SOT experience with each of them
That's why I'm holding onto my F3 until A12 stable is released... just to see if I can manage a full days use on a Fold3 without experiencing battery anxiety by mid afternoon