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Worth going from Note 4 to OnePlus 3

I have my Note 4 and I thought of selling it and getting OnePlus 3. The only concern is the battery for me as I tend to use the phone a lot for emails, music, and other things for school.
I just want to get more opinions before i make the move. Also i am trying to stay away from samsung roms eventhought i read that there are some issues with OP3 roms. Well they always have some issues with roms i guess.

It's hard to tell if the battery is good or not but so far from the reviews I've read and watched , it's average and not so great. An average battery is a deal breaker for me, some users will say it charges really fast but I'm not always next to a plug. That's the same argument made for the galaxy s6 which had a terrible battery.

i do not understand how you can even think about that, changing note4 for this upper-mid telephone... note4 is still a beast phone...

Well the battery life is a deal breaker that is the only reason why I got Note 4, and Note 4 has wayy more things inside. But just thought of changing that's why I am asking for opinions here. I just wish Samsung roms were a bit better especially those from T Mobile US.

Oh damn, I had to get rid of the Note 4. It was so so laggy and it'd heat up to 75-80C. TW was horrible on it. Unusable. Battery was terrible too.
OnePlus 3 is a much much better phone in terms of everything. I'm currently on a 6P and I'm moving to OP3.

I guess it's not worth,
Since you use the note4, I'm afraid you can not get used to the display of OP3 cuz it's 1080p

edios123 said:
Oh damn, I had to get rid of the Note 4. It was so so laggy and it'd heat up to 75-80C. TW was horrible on it. Unusable. Battery was terrible too.
OnePlus 3 is a much much better phone in terms of everything. I'm currently on a 6P and I'm moving to OP3.
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My problem with Note 4 is that I can not get a stable CM12 rom. For me they all have some small problem or something that is not working well. As for display I dont really mind. I dont think I will notice the difference after using OnePlus 3 for few days.

I had a Note 4 until I drove over it about 2 months ago, and was waiting for the OP3 until I got a new phone. So far I would say it is better for me than the note. When I bought the Note, I wanted lots of battery life, expandable storage etc. Now, I carry a power brick whenever I travel and don't need expandable storage. I like the fact that it's slightly smaller, it's also much thinner and looks better in my opinion.
The screen on the OP3 really is excellent, I can't honestly tell the difference between the OP3 and Note 4 screen, despite the difference in resolution. The OP3 is also much faster than the note 4 was out of the box.
I would say: don't upgrade if you are a heavy user and cannot charge during the day. However, if you can charge, even for a few minutes (DASH!), I would upgrade. If you have the money without selling the Note 4, you could always buy the OP3 and compare the phones, OnePlus offer 15 day returns on their phones.

I ordered the phone. I wlll get it by 30th of June. I will let you know how how i feel about the phone when i get it.
Ooo, btw thanks for convincing me spend more money ahahah

How are you satisfied with the change from Note 4 to OnePlus 3 after 2 month? Thanks!
lumx said:
I will let you know how how i feel about the phone when i get it.
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Note 7 or One Plus 3???

Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!

I don't see any lag on my note 7. It's very rare
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OneEternalRound said:
Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Lag could be a result from battery problems. My N7 works even better than S7edge. I will chose a replacement for note 7 with note 7 anytime
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You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.

lisbon2004 said:
You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.
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Remind me, I forget, what other mobile has the S-pen? one gets what one pays for and those less expensive mobiles will serve their customers very well. What you totally fail to realise is the Note 7 is NOT a bog standard flagship mobile. Its aimed at high end users who will make use of the S-pen, 64GB internal memory and a possible 256GB expandable memory to name just a couple of the Note7's basic characteristics.
Ryland

LOL there's no comparison, one is a mid range bog standard phone and one is top quality premium computing device.
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I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire

winol said:
I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire
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I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/

I was thinking about getting the OP3 as opposed to the Note 7. But I realized that the OP3 wasn't going to offer me anything new. In fact, it would have offered me less (other than savings in money) considering I was coming off my S7 Edge.
I knew that the OP3 was going to be a temporary workhorse. Rooted, **** ton of roms, then I'd get tired of it after like month 3 then I would end up getting the newest Google device, while regretting not buying the Note 7 yet. Note 7 just has everything that can last me a legitimate year. Expandable storage, fast charging, multi window which i actually utilize every day, s-pen which i actually use many times throughout the day.
Sure, the price is up there. But this note 7 is a long term phone.

I have owned both phones. While I had the op3 since release and the note 7 for less than a month, I have to say the note 7 is auch better phone. I don't really need root, and didn't flash custom ROM on the op3. I used both android pay on the op3 and samsung pay on the note 7 daily and samsung pay is much more convenient. The op3 display isn't bad but the note 7 is noticeable better. I find battery life to be a bit better on the note 7. Both phone got me through a full day with moderate to heavy use but the not tends to have more battery at the end of the day. Dash charge was very convenient on the op3 and it did seem to charge much faster than note 7 (I don't use wireless charging). OxygenOS was a tad better than TouchWiz in terms of less manufacturer bloat, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I don't know if I will keep the note 7 after the new Pixel devices are announced but if I do I can see myself keeping the note 7 for 2 years.

blitzkrieg19 said:
I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.

Batfink33 said:
Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.

acheney1990 said:
I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.
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I have very little or zero lag or stutter on my Exynos. It's the smoothest Touchwiz phone I've ever used.

I have the exynos model, I have no complaints, very smooth, no lags, I had note 4, and it had many shortcomings, I am real happy with my exynos note7

Batfink33 said:
Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..

I also have the Snapdragon. Would It be possible to get it switched when I return it? I thought Exynos was only certain areas?? Never heard of it being in USA..
blitzkrieg19 said:
Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..
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I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.

THATTON said:
I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.
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Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?

OneEternalRound said:
Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?
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Online elsewhere.

THATTON said:
Online elsewhere.
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Looks like this might be my best bet! Thanks for the help.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S8+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S8+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Best phone I've ever owned!

Massive, gorgeous display. Faster than my nemesis' I7. Still need tweaks for battery life, but the trade off in performance and consumer joy is worth it.

The S8+ is the best phone I ever had so far, and the battery life is excellent.
I only have two minor issues with my S8+.
1) The speaker is too easy to mistakenly cover while gaming or watch video.
2) Sometimes on the Camera, there is a slight delay between the time you press the record button and when it starts recording, ONLY when you have it set to 4K UHD recording.
Other than that, everything else is flawless for me.

I had the Verizon Galaxy S8 from the day it was released. I really like that phone. I just purchased a refurbished Unlocked S8+ from Bestbuy for $500 because I wanted to see the difference in size and battery life. I'm so happy I took a shot on the bigger brother of the galaxies.
Battery life is better than expected and the overall size is not that different to hold. However when looking at the screen real estate the S8+ is huge and that's what I love about it. With this version I know the drawback may be reasonably timed updates, but if I decide to leave Verizon with all the T-Mobile changes, I can do it an not have to invest in a phone.
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One Of the best mobile ever
I wanna to buy this mobile, Am so interested in this mobile to buy.

Gotta say, coming from mostly Note devices, this has to be the best phone I've ever used and owned. It's only been a couple of weeks but it's already left a big impression on me. Not only that, this is the fist phone that I've used in its stock state. No root (of course our SD doesn't have it yet, anyway) but I'm not really missing it or my S-Pen. Most of the functions my S-Pen were able to perform I can do on this phone which was a pleasant surprise. I still miss interacting with the display with the pen, though. I may move onto the Note 8 at the end of the year but right now I'm very happy with this S8 Plus.

So a quick info on my background. I have owned many Smartphones in the last 5 years, form pretty much all major brands(Samsung, Apple, Sony, Motorola). I also consider myself a Poweruser.
So this is my third Galaxy device and the first I was very happy with the S8+ for the first few weeks but I stumbled upping more and more negatives about the phone.
1. After a few hours of uptime it will start to stutter when typing fast or switching between apps.
2. The over the top animations get annoying, but if you turn them off it feels weed and even slower.
3. Battery life seems good when watching videos that are supported by the hardware decoder but most hdr stuff is not no I could not even watch The Revenant on one charge and during that the device got very warm and I encountered a few dropped frames.
4. Idle battery life is very bad (loosing 30% during the night about 7-8h) but this applies pretty much to all Android phone.
Overall it's still an amazing phone but as everything it has its downsides.

Samsung
I have never used a cell phone with the features which I am using in Samsung S8

marcdegasperi said:
So a quick info on my background. I have owned many Smartphones in the last 5 years, form pretty much all major brands(Samsung, Apple, Sony, Motorola). I also consider myself a Poweruser.
So this is my third Galaxy device and the first I was very happy with the S8+ for the first few weeks but I stumbled upping more and more negatives about the phone.
1. After a few hours of uptime it will start to stutter when typing fast or switching between apps.
2. The over the top animations get annoying, but if you turn them off it feels weed and even slower.
3. Battery life seems good when watching videos that are supported by the hardware decoder but most hdr stuff is not no I could not even watch The Revenant on one charge and during that the device got very warm and I encountered a few dropped frames.
4. Idle battery life is very bad (loosing 30% during the night about 7-8h) but this applies pretty much to all Android phone.
Overall it's still an amazing phone but as everything it has its downsides.
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Nice , you are right ,

One last quick update.
Been reading through all the posts and replies on the latest root updates for the Snapdragon variants and after about a month now on this completely stock S8+ I can't see any practical reasons to go through the grind that is today's root method. It certainly isn't like it used to be as a long-time Samsung rooting fiend and now it just seems far more trouble than it's worth. This out of the box state is simply outstanding. Obviously, your experiences may vary but based on my user habits, and I run the hell outta my daily driver, it's been performing brilliantly with no issues. BixBye let's me remap that idiotic button without root so I'm good on that end which was the only real reason I was even contemplated rooting when it became available for this version.
I truly believe at this stage in Android and Samsung's combined software and hardware development on the S8+ things have finally matured enough where I'm not feeling that burning desire to root. Sure, there's a couple of apps here and there that I will miss having but I still have that Exynos Note 5 to kick around.
Fantastic phone. I will be considering getting the Note 8 but only because of that S-Pen. This S8+ is an amazing daily driver if and when I do make the switch.

The best phone on the market to date! Not only does the phone have excellent performance, but it's just a beautifully crafted device. I'd say the phone itself is..... art.
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perfect phone for me, i jumped from note 4 to this.

galvaliziman said:
perfect phone for me, i jumped from note 4 to this.
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i'm on the note 4 just and was wondering about screen width,do you lose much on the s8+ compared to note 4?

There are a lot of "best phone I've ever owned" on here. I hate to be that girl, but... I agree. I love the features at the software level such as being able to make all apps full screen. I also love the phone in general from a design perspective. The display and battery are both amazing.

Great buy and experience, even in stock state

The S8+ is the best phone

You must buy the s8+ if yo dont use too much the pencil.
I got to not use it but i miss it

It's an awful phone. Unfortunately. The four things that save the situation are the following.
1. The screen is simply beautiful.
2. The camera is wonderful
3. I didn't pay it
4. The Google pixel 2 XL will be ridiculously expensive here in Greece.
The bad things are:
1. Huge battery drain. I had the last Nexus that was awful and I found it's brother. Some times I have to charge it twice a day. I use Android since 2010 and I don't make experiments. I use the same applications for years so I have a very solid knowledge of what to expect.
2. Lag. I don't know why but I have. I use the unbranded Greek version. I always install the new versions with Odin. With full format. I do the same with the Nexus and and my iPhone. In the latter two everything works so smoothly and I usually don't make the upgrades in time since I am bored for the setup. But now no no no. I have done 3 formats. One the day I bought it to unbrand it, the second in August when the latest version appeard and another one last Monday. The same. Unacceptable lag. Not that it's like a 3 year phone but it shouldn't happen.

Definetly one of the best devices Samsung had made. A true upgrade in all areas from the S7. Improvements in efficiency as well as the addition of Bixby and "infinity" put the S8+ it a clear cut above the V20, G6, and Moto G5.

Thoughts on upgrade from OP5T to OP7P

Hello my fellow geeks! I wanted to get some opinions on this subject that I'm sure has been covered 1000 times in the last few weeks but I'm curious nonetheless. Firstly, let me say that I'm a tech mark and I switch tech at least yearly if not more often including phones, tablets, wearables, etc. Currently, I own an OP5T (8/128), Galaxy Note 9 (8/512) and an iPhone XS Max 256 that I use for work. I'm definitely waiting on the new Note 10 when it drops later this summer but since the new OP7P dropped, I'm starting to get antsy after seeing the specs, features, and performance reviews of the phone online. With that said, I absolutely love my OP5T and that's the reason I've kept it so long. The speed, performance, and overall quality of the phone is almost unmatched by more current and higher priced phones on the market today. The phone is truly a flagship killer. However, I purposely missed the last several iterations of the phone because I didn't see any features that stood out enough for me to upgrade and in that time, I grabbed the Note 9 and iPhone XS Max which was even more reason to stay put. I've been enamored with the Note 9 in particular which completey took my attention away from the OP5T but with the release of the latest OP7P, my mouth began watering all over again. I for one don't mind the curved screen and the bezeless design is a thing of complete beauty. I love big screen phones so the 6.7 inch AMOLED screen is almost enough for me to upgrade on its own. Honestly I've been spoiled by the Note 9 but I paid twice over the price of the OP5T so that should be expected. The OP7P seems to be a step closer to that true flagship but with some tradeoffs of course like IP rating and wireless charging. Has anyone upgraded to the OP7P from the 5T specifically. I'd like to know your thoughts. Also, I never really entertained trade ups because usually it's a rip off but OP is offering 200 credit for the OP5T. Seems low ball but that's a nice discount off the new tech. Any opinions out there? I'd love to hear them. Happy Saturday everyone!!!
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Honestly, I've been asking myself the same question.
The only answer that's come up to me is that I'd rather wait for the next iteration - the OP7P is amazing, sure , but I think Note 10 and the next OP devices will be even better.
tl;dr - wait for the next one.

dandrake47 said:
Honestly, I've been asking myself the same question.
The only answer that's come up to me is that I'd rather wait for the next iteration - the OP7P is amazing, sure , but I think Note 10 and the next OP devices will be even better.
tl;dr - wait for the next one.
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I was thinking that same thing. Part of my reasoning is the trade in program as well although I may be able to sell it privately for at least 300-350 but it's such a pain having to deal with that process. I've always gotten the T version of the OnePlus so I think you may be right to hold out. T version may have wireless charging and if so I'm sold!!
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go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it

AlMaghraby said:
go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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What do you like most about the OP7P? The screen is my biggest attraction. I'm not too concerned about the pop up camera that a lot of people are fussing about. Wireless charging is the only thing it's missing as well as an IP68 rating at least but then again that would make the phone $1000.
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What do you like most about the OP7P? The screen is my biggest attraction. I'm not too concerned about the pop up camera that a lot of people are fussing about. Wireless charging is the only thing it's missing as well as an IP68 rating at least but then again that would make the phone $1000.
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I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.

I was an op fan for the price to spec ratio but unfortunately they are going down the drain with the pricing and with software bugs+issues as mentioned in the last post.

AlMaghraby said:
go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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Same here, been thinking about upgrading my 5T to the 7 but for the same price I can get a S10+
And whilst OP has a better stock android experience, for the pricetag you are paying I personally think the S10+ is worth it more then the OP7 at that point.

TechieTwinToes said:
I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
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Very good advice my friend. Than you very much for the links and info. This is the type of objective opinion I was looking for. I think I will wait at least until they update the firmware and alleviate the issues. Thanks again!
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TechieTwinToes said:
I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
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Okay, so the screen doesn't have an issue... it's a bug with NFC and the digitizer. And it's also easily fixable with a patch to the kernel.
The camera is actually pretty great with GCam mod. No root required like the 5T.
And I wouldn't go saying the Note 10 is a definite winner since it's not even announced yet and no specs have really been confirmed.

I just ended up returning mine. The curved screen kind of bothered me with the glare. I updated my old 5T and it is running really smooth on the latest beta.
Will wait for the next one.

After holding the 7 pro in my hand it made me love the superthin design of the 5T even more, mine is in a sandstone protective case from OnePlus and the 7 pro feels way too thick, in a case it's going to be a brick. It's a shame they made it so big.

Question Is it worth it to upgrade to z fold 3

I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?

droid745 said:
I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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I would say no. You get
CONS:
a smaller outer display
A smaller battery,
PROS
a tad better processor
a kinda invisible under display inner camera, which is a worse compared to fold 2.

Fytdyh said:
I would say no. You get
CONS:
a smaller outer display
A smaller battery,
PROS
a tad better processor
a kinda invisible under display inner camera, which is a worse compared to fold 2.
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Thanks, that is what I was thinking. Just wish the z fold 2 had a better inner screen protector like the 3 as the rubbery feeling kind of sucks on the 2. I think I will just keep the 2 and see what they do with the z fold 4 next year and then maybe upgrade to that.

droid745 said:
Thanks, that is what I was thinking. Just wish the z fold 2 had a better inner screen protector like the 3 as the rubbery feeling kind of sucks on the 2. I think I will just keep the 2 and see what they do with the z fold 4 next year and then maybe upgrade to that.
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You will probably be able to get a better deal on trade in, too. I managed to snaffle an au$1,300 trade in discount (~us$900) plus half price care + by trading in my Z Flip that only cost au$1,000 last year. It was a limited time offer, and Samsung often do these.

Fytdyh said:
I would say no. You get
CONS:
a smaller outer display
A smaller battery,
PROS
a tad better processor
a kinda invisible under display inner camera, which is a worse compared to fold 2.
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droid745 said:
I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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The outer display is the exact same size on both devices. And the battery size is very close. 4500 vs 4400.
You also get water resistance and SPen compatibility.
I had the ZF2 for almost a year, and the ZF2 has been a great upgrade, well worth the money in my opinion. $500 to upgrade is a really good real, but I think Best Buy has some pretty crazy offers right now too.

droid745 said:
I received a used z fold 2 in pristine condition that was used for a month or less and can upgrade to the z fold 3 for $500. Is it worth the upgrade for $500?
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I would say what's $500 worth to you. $500 isnt much to some, I spend more on dinner. So I would upgrade all day everyday. I will say that the z fold 3 is the first phone in years that I won't switch from until it's successor comes out (the Motorola RAZR back in 2004 was the last). It does everything right for me. Especially since I use the camera only once a month.

I would upgrade without question. If not just for the fact that I live in an area with bad reception and the F3 is getting much better reception then the F2 to the point where I don't have to be on wifi calling to use the phone on the F3. The internal screen is much better to the touch and definitely feels tougher and certainly not as sticky and rubbery as the F2 screen does...love the F3.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
The outer display is the exact same size on both devices. And the battery size is very close. 4500 vs 4400.
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Whilst battery is 5% smaller, SOT & usage from a full charge is 25 to 30% less on the Fold3..
Definitiely a much worse battery drain on an Fold3 vs Fold2. I would NOT upgrade right now!
(I do have my fingers crossed Android 12 closes the battery life gap ... but am not holding my breath).

dezborders said:
Whilst battery is 5% smaller, SOT & usage from a full charge is 25 to 30% less on the Fold3..
Definitiely a much worse battery drain on an Fold3 vs Fold2. I would NOT upgrade right now!
(I do have my fingers crossed Android 12 closes the battery life gap ... but am not holding my breath).
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I've had the ZF3 since launch and yes at first battery life was terrible. All new devices are like that. Go through ANY forum here, and you'll see complaints on every single one of them about battery life at launch. ALL of them.
But it has improved and I would say it's very comparable now to the ZF2, which I owned for almost a year.
I would definitely upgrade from the ZF2 to the ZF3 given a good deal.

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I've had the ZF3 since launch and yes at first battery life was terrible. All new devices are like that. Go through ANY forum here, and you'll see complaints on every single one of them about battery life at launch. ALL of them.
But it has improved and I would say it's very comparable now to the ZF2, which I owned for almost a year.
I would definitely upgrade from the ZF2 to the ZF3 given a good deal.
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I had a Fold3 for 2 months and battery life was CONSISTENTLY 25 - 30% poorer than on the F2
Some Forum members point at Snapdragon 888 as a power hog. Other people have other ideas
Constant factor for me is 25% WORSE battery life.on F3 over what I had with F2
@OP Don't upgrade from a F2 to an F3 if getting a full days use on one full charge is important to you

dezborders said:
I had a Fold3 for 2 months and battery life was CONSISTENTLY 25 - 30% poorer than on the F2
Some Forum members point at Snapdragon 888 as a power hog. Other people have other ideas
Constant factor for me is 25% WORSE battery life.on F3 over what I had with F2
@OP Don't upgrade from a F2 to an F3 if getting a full days use on one full charge is important to you
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I didn't have the Fold 2 but I had S20 Ultra and the Fold 3 battery time is better than the S20 Ultra's.

vinczetibor said:
I didn't have the Fold 2 but I had S20 Ultra and the Fold 3 battery time is better than the S20 Ultra's.
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Cool yes coming from different devices will be a different experience for Fold3 upgrade
I was trying to answer the OP who has an F2 and asked if it's worth the upgrade to F3

I can only offer my experience of battery and that it has been excellent. I have about 40% left at the end of a day.
Thats with alot of spotify streaming, gps/fitbit as I use for a run, YouTube for about an hour, with Twitter and Facebook thrown in for extra.

The real question is if you didn't have the Z fold 3 and being 60 days away when the S22 Ultra/Note with Spen hits the stores is it even worth upgrading? You know many on XDA will be running to the S22 Ultra with built in Spen when it hits.
I currently have the S21Ultra and love the Note line. Saki will be Flossy will be all saying to get it when it hits.

Blues fan said:
The real question is if you didn't have the Z fold 3 and being 60 days away when the S22 Ultra/Note with Spen hits the stores is it even worth upgrading? You know many on XDA will be running to the S22 Ultra with built in Spen when it hits.
I currently have the S21Ultra and love the Note line. Saki will be Flossy will be all saying to get it when it hits.
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-If- Samsung gets their sorry Note act together it will likely be in the fall of next year.
Even if that happens Android has dropped the ball twice now with Android 11 and 12.
It will be probably closer to 2 years before their scoped storage mess gets effectively implemented.

blackhawk said:
-If- Samsung gets their sorry Note act together it will likely be in the fall of next year.
Even if that happens Android has dropped the ball twice now with Android 11 and 12.
It will be probably closer to 2 years before their scoped storage mess gets effectively implemented.
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the S22 Ultra IS the Note It's called the S22 Ultra but it's just the Note with a new name. Going forward the Ultra is the Note device released with the S series.
I don't like the Android 12 myself. My S21 Ultra is flawless, was and Android 12 it's acting buggy now. Seeing a lot of people complaining about it with their Fold devices as well.

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the S22 Ultra IS the Note It's called the S22 Ultra but it's just the Note with a new name. Going forward the Ultra is the Note device released with the S series.
I don't like the Android 12 myself. My S21 Ultra is flawless, was and Android 12 it's acting buggy now. Seeing a lot of people complaining about it with their Fold devices as well.
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We'll see what the rabid box of gerbils know as Samsung does in the coming year.
I bought my second new N10+ 2 months ago because I like them a lot, they're a solid workhorse and don't want to deal with the multiple issues both Samsung and Android are having with their new technologies. I'm running on Android 9 and 10 with zero incentive to go beyond Android 10.
Of course it depends what's important to the individual. I've never had any major security issues even on the 2 yo Pie variant, but scoped storage would trash my freeware office app for starters.
Color rendering, good low light display usability and battery life are more important variable refresh rates. Add to that I know the N10+'s display is long lived and reliable.
5G isn't worth the power trade off as 4G gets it done and will even speed up a bit because of the 5G users reducing the pressure on the 4G bandwidth.
A faster Snapdragon and ram memory be nice but that be offset somewhat by scoped storage and forced encryption.
A SD card slot is mandatory; I need my dual drive computer.
I prefer the square display corners immensely as well as the 7mm profile with no cam hump.
Absolutely insist on a native spen, preferably on the right side and with bt remote capability.
Samsung runs hot and cold.
When they're running what you consider to be hot, grab it.
When they're cold, let Samsung hold on to it
When in doubt, wait.

blackhawk said:
I bought my second new N10+ 2 months ago because I like them a lot, they're a solid workhorse and don't want to deal with the multiple issues both Samsung and Android are having with their new technologies. I'm running on Android 9 and 10 with zero incentive to go beyond Android 10.
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Each to their own.... N10+ x2 and Android 9 and 10. on them. You are in a unique group with a membershuip of 1!
I will stick to using the latest & greates devices with the current OS & all available security patches applied as soon as released.
(like 99.9999% of XDA users I imagine)

dezborders said:
Each to their own.... N10+ x2 and Android 9 and 10. on them. You are in a unique group with a membershuip of 1!
I will stick to using the latest & greates devices with the current OS & all available security patches applied as soon as released.
(like 99.9999% of XDA users I imagine)
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Remember Google stopped reporting their user Android version adaptation... we know why.
Had Goggle and particularly Samsung done their job well... I be holding it

blackhawk said:
Remember Google stopped reporting their user Android version adaptation... we know why.
Had Goggle and particularly Samsung done their job well... I be holding it
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To he honest I have used Android 10 11 and 12 on many brands and devices and never had any serious issues with any of them - never ever ...
In the last 8 weeks I have used Android 12 as daily driver on Xiaomi Mi11, Google Pixel 6 Pro and S21 Ultra and all of them were stable and smooth as butter... And all with spectacular battery life over my own previous Android 11 SOT experience with each of them
That's why I'm holding onto my F3 until A12 stable is released... just to see if I can manage a full days use on a Fold3 without experiencing battery anxiety by mid afternoon