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Hi,
I am mostly interested in battery life and camera quality.
Thanks for any input!
Apple bad, HTC good. lol
Seriously, I have no idea. I've never had a desire to buy an Apple product. That said, it would be interesting to see how they compare.
Of course, your question is going to have a delayed response as hardly anyone has their units. HTC hasn't shipped them yet.
I'd be happy to offer my 2 cents once my 10 arrives.
I can say this though. I've owned the M7, M8, M9, Nexus 6P, etc... (you can look at my sig).
The iPhone 6 Plus and 6S Plus are the only smart phones I've ever owned to make it comfortably through a day for me. The 6P would, but I'd have to alter my usage.
valdigre said:
Hi,
I am mostly interested in battery life and camera quality.
Thanks for any input!
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Spoiler alert... anyone's answer will be bias. iPhone fan boys will think iPhone is the best and HTC fanboys will tell you HTC is best. What you will want to compare the features. I've noticed iPhone's battery life has gotten worse. Many 6 and 6S user complain to me all the time. HTC is to be judged, the reviews seem promising but I think the two of them will be similar.
As far as cameras.. there are so many reviews on this. Keep in mind the HTC was using a preproduction firmware and could get better:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-vs-iphone-6s-no-place-home-button
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...-S7-LG-G5-low-light-camera-comparison_id80396
Good luck deciding, if you do lean towards iPhone I would highly recommend you wait until fall for the iPhone 7.
Hi
I have iPhone 6s Plus, I had Xperia z2, Htc M7, galaxy note 3, Galaxy s2 so I know both worlds.
I am not interested in fanboy's opinions, only those that had exposure to both phones and can say which phone worked better for them, in their use case scenarios.
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I have iPhone 6s Plus, I had Xperia z2, Htc M7, galaxy note 3, Galaxy s2 so I know both worlds.
I am not interested in fanboy's opinions, only those that had exposure to both phones and can say which phone worked better for them, in their use case scenarios.
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You are going to have to wait about a month for a good report. I sent you the links above and you can google htc 10 vs iphone 6S to find tons of reviews but until we get our phones and used it for a while we wont have a good comparison. I too have used both sides (see my signature) but a very small amount of people here have the 10 yet.
I'd rather have end user opinions on final software than prerelease versions of Htc 10 reviewed by "specialists".
I don't mind waiting for people until they receive their phones and have time to play with.
I will take care of this thread and hopefully people will start putting their opinions.
Keep in mind I don't expectant scientific data, just your comparisons basing on your usage.
Thanks!
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Spoiler alert... anyone's answer will be bias. iPhone fan boys will think iPhone is the best and HTC fanboys will tell you HTC is best. What you will want to compare the features. I've noticed iPhone's battery life has gotten worse. Many 6 and 6S user complain to me all the time. HTC is to be judged, the reviews seem promising but I think the two of them will be similar.
As far as cameras.. there are so many reviews on this. Keep in mind the HTC was using a preproduction firmware and could get better:
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-10-vs-iphone-6s-no-place-home-button
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...-S7-LG-G5-low-light-camera-comparison_id80396
Good luck deciding, if you do lean towards iPhone I would highly recommend you wait until fall for the iPhone 7.
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I guess since I currently own Apple products and my battery life is phenomenal, I'm a fanboy. :silly:
That being said, the 6S Plus is the most sturdy feeling phone I've used to date. No Bendgate here.
I would also second the notion that if you are seriously considering an iPhone, wait until the 7 (if you can).
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I guess since I currently own Apple products and my battery life is phenomenal, I'm a fanboy. :silly:
That being said, the 6S Plus is the most sturdy feeling phone I've used to date. No Bendgate here.
I would also second the notion that if you are seriously considering an iPhone, wait until the 7 (if you can).
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lol no I didn't say your battery life is consistent with your fanboyishness just what I have heard. The last iPhone I owned was the 6 so I cannot speak of the 6S. I didn't really have battery issues with the 6. It wasn't amazing but it got me through the day. That's all I care about really.
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lol no I didn't say your battery life is consistent with your fanboyishness just what I have heard. The last iPhone I owned was the 6 so I cannot speak of the 6S. I didn't really have battery issues with the 6. It wasn't amazing but it got me through the day. That's all I care about really.
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For me, even the 6 didn't have the stamina I needed. The 6P was the closest I've come on the Android side of the fence. I just want my phone to last through the day without me having to change my usage habits and have enough juice in case of an emergency.
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For me, even the 6 didn't have the stamina I needed. The 6P was the closest I've come on the Android side of the fence. I just want my phone to last through the day without me having to change my usage habits and have enough juice in case of an emergency.
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I never have battery problems with my 6P. It is the smoothest and best android experience i've had. I'm excited to get the 10 and see how it compares. I'm not into phablets all that much or I'd keep it.
As I mentioned I have 6s plus, it is not a matter of choosing to buy an iPhone now or Htc 10. I have iPhone and wondering if I will sacrifice too much battery life and or camera quality.
That's it.
valdigre said:
As I mentioned I have 6s plus, it is not a matter of choosing to buy an iPhone now or Htc 10. I have iPhone and wondering if I will sacrifice too much battery life and or camera quality.
That's it.
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Yeah I get it, still have to wait to find out.
All reviews point to good battery and good camera. I'm sure it will only get better so I'd say yes. But keep in mind that everyone's usage differs. This means everyone's battery life will be different based on how they use the phone. But you get 30 days to try it out... why not get it and see how they compare side by side? You are the only one that can use the 10 how you use the iPhone to see if it is worth switching. I might get the 10 and view it one way, you might get it and view it completely differently. You can always return it if you hate it.
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As I mentioned I have 6s plus, it is not a matter of choosing to buy an iPhone now or Htc 10. I have iPhone and wondering if I will sacrifice too much battery life and or camera quality.
That's it.
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If the camera really is the same module as the Nexus 6P has, then honestly, it will be an upgrade for you (IMO). My 6P, in my option, took far better pictures than my 6S+ does.
Battery life will be more subjective. As I've said, my 6+/6S+ were the only phones I've owned to last me and entire day comfortably (30%+ left at 11pm or so). The Nexus 6P, with it's battery guzzling 810 chipset and 3450mah battery could last a day for me, but towards late afternoon I'd start being more conservative in my usage. I would not be able to last the day if I did any sort of gaming (Hearthstone, etc) or heavy Facebook usage.
Additionally, I apparently am a much heavier user than most.
I'm hoping that with the increased size (3000mah) and more efficient 820, that the HTC 10 will at least his Nexus 6P stamina territory.
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Yeah I get it, still have to wait to find out.
All reviews point to good battery and good camera. I'm sure it will only get better so I'd say yes. But keep in mind that everyone's usage differs. This means everyone's battery life will be different based on how they use the phone. But you get 30 days to try it out... why not get it and see how they compare side by side? You are the only one that can use the 10 how you use the iPhone to see if it is worth switching. I might get the 10 and view it one way, you might get it and view it completely differently. You can always return it if you hate it.
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I really don't understand how could you receive a phone for 30 days with an option to return it.
I saw comments here of people's who said almost the same as you..
When i want a new phone i have to sell mine and then buying the one i want.
It's just interesting me how's it's work in other countries.
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I really don't understand how could you receive a phone for 30 days with an option to return it.
I saw comments here of people's who said almost the same as you..
When i want a new phone i have to sell mine and then buying the one i want.
It's just interesting me how's it's work in other countries.
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I own 2 phones, I will try out the 10 and if I like it I will sell my phone. If I don't I'll keep it. Some people can afford to keep both but I like being married
@valdigre
What made you replace the Z2?
The device isn't even that old yet, and it still performs really well.
The recent Marshmallow update has done wonders for the device in both performance and battery life. I doubted it would get faster, but it has.
Just curious
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@valdigre
What made you replace the Z2?
The device isn't even that old yet, and it still performs really well.
The recent Marshmallow update has done wonders for the device in both performance and battery life. I doubted it would get faster, but it has.
Just curious
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Dreadful camera, I really like making photos and very bad camera, no ois, dreadful panorama etc.
The phone is still on the family, my gf uses it and loves it but there is no comparison with iPhone 6s Plus.
To be honest none of the new flagships impressed with dramatically better camera than iPhone 6s.
I will maybe hold off for new nexuses, iPhone 7 or next year
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Dreadful camera, I really like making photos and very bad camera, no ois, dreadful panorama etc.
The phone is still on the family, my gf uses it and loves it but there is no comparison with iPhone 6s Plus.
To be honest none of the new flagships impressed with dramatically better camera than iPhone 6s.
I will maybe hold off for new nexuses, iPhone 7 or next year
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To be honest, the camera isn't the best thing ever, especially the pitiful 2mp front one (we don't speak of it )
The rear one can be good, if the phone feels like it
It really depends what you're pointing at, which isn't the hallmark of a good camera.
iPhone 6S will eat the Z2 for breakfast in the camera department, hands down.
Still a great device even today.
I'll only upgrade once phones have solar panels
OGhoul said:
I guess since I currently own Apple products and my battery life is phenomenal, I'm a fanboy. :silly:
That being said, the 6S Plus is the most sturdy feeling phone I've used to date. No Bendgate here.
I would also second the notion that if you are seriously considering an iPhone, wait until the 7 (if you can).
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For iPhone: wait until 2017 version and NOT this coming September 2016 version.
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Yes ? No ? And why ? :fingers-crossed:
Yes. My G5 has not survived the numerous accidents it had too well, and the OnePlus 5T is still a "budget" option when compared to the Honor and LG alternatives.
Would I be crazy to sell my s8 to get 5t
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Would I be crazy to sell my s8 to get 5t
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Nope. S8 is severely locked down from what I understand. I take software over hardware any day of the week. UNLESS it has gotten to the point where the hardware is making the software experience abysmal... rip little Droid Bionic loved ya <3
op5t is the most attractive phone on the market in 2017 even it still has huge bezels.
unfortunately, it has not wireless charging and ip68.
I'm stuck between ugly sams note8 with the best hardware and the worst software and medium hardware and one of the best software on op5t.
definitely, I want to get op5t when it will have unlocked bootloader, root, custom recovery, and custom rom.
Yes I will, if my current 5 sells (put it up for sale a couple days ago). I wouldn't mind paying the difference after selling my 5 to get that taller screen! And I'm also just the type of person who enjoys having the latest model, despite upgrades being minor
I'm buying it. I'm using a 3T now so it's a true upgrade. Bring on the custom ROMs. The 5T is an affordable alternative to the Pixel 2 XL but with better hardware.
Oneplus is known for pushing this out to developers quickly. Why you think they can Release a phone every 6 months. (I'm speculating Win Win for Consumer and developers.
I'm now debating between this phone, the V30 or the Razer Phone. Not too sure which one yet. Why is OP still using a 1080p screen though?
I have the OnePlus 5 now and just put it up for sale for 400. Hope it sells. If so I'll grab the 5T with that money. The screen and upgraded camera I will be happy with, the low light on the 5 is just garbage. Still not happy that the 5T didn't add OIS but it's I'm okay w/ the video looking a bit odd, not shakey but just odd, and would help with low light if it had OIS. But whatever! Yeah I want the upgrade.
My Moto x pure died in a crash a 2 weeks ago. Since then I hold myself on buying anything till 5t s release. Well I guess it’s the one , I’m definitely going to buy it wish it was on sale right now
Yep. Pixel 2 XL is already for sale.
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op5t is the most attractive phone on the market in 2017 even it still has huge bezels.
unfortunately, it has not wireless charging and ip68.
I'm stuck between ugly sams note8 with the best hardware and the worst software and medium hardware and one of the best software on op5t.
definitely, I want to get op5t when it will have unlocked bootloader, root, custom recovery, and custom rom.
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TWRP is already released for the 5T, and I'm sure root will be as easy as fastboot oem unlock.
But for this post, yep I'm buying one on the 21st! I might sell my current OnePlus 5.
I'm using a Nexus 6p and can't wait till tax time cause I'm buying this bad boy...high end specs at 500$ damn Skippy son!
bullet25 said:
Why is OP still using a 1080p screen though?
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- To keep the price down
- Better performance
- Better battery life
I will not. The 5 is already a big phone. I am at my limits with reach on it. The 5t is physically taller with a taller screen. No thanks. Plus I don't buy into the no bezel gimmick. To me, it's just vanity. It adds nothing to the actual experience. It's just something you hope people notice. Look at me! No bezels! I've never once thought to myself while actually using my phone, "man these bezels are just so ugly and huge". No, I actually don't see them... at all. I'm looking at my screen, not my bezels. And I like my fp sensor on the front. I can't tell you how many times I check my phone while it's laying face up on my desk or table. I might consider it if it did something amazing that the 5 didn't, but it's literally the same phone with a stupid tall screen and apparently a worse camera.
I'm not sure. At the moment I have the OP3. I will get the HTC U11+ or the OP5t.
It's a very hard decision
No Oreo. No treble. No sale.
pychobj2001 said:
I have the OnePlus 5 now and just put it up for sale for 400. Hope it sells. If so I'll grab the 5T with that money. The screen and upgraded camera I will be happy with, the low light on the 5 is just garbage. Still not happy that the 5T didn't add OIS but it's I'm okay w/ the video looking a bit odd, not shakey but just odd, and would help with low light if it had OIS. But whatever! Yeah I want the upgrade.
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In my opinion just keep the 5, not that big difference between the two.
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I'm not sure. At the moment I have the OP3. I will get the HTC U11+ or the OP5t.
It's a very hard decision
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Hard decision??....
HTC 11+ costs almost double than OP5T....
I recently got the OP7T and a few others before this one and there are some things that are just meh... One of them is, the famous line that most big youtube tech reviews say, "Oneplus is famous for timely updates" but is it really? Mine is still on the Jan security update, the Samsung Note 10 and the Sony Xperia 5 I had before, those were getting security updates every month, not saying that this is a deal breaker, the phone is fast and fluid with the stock Android experience, but bashing other manufacturers compared to the OP, saying that OP is very good with updates, that is simply not true. A few more reasons why Oneplus is just meh, the price, sure at launch it's hard to beat, but in the used market there are way better alternatives, here in the UK at least, Pixel 4 XL are around £450, Xperia 1 and 5 are around £280, Samsung S10 Plus around £350 and Samsung Note 10 are around £400, now the OP holds value for longer for sure, example, the OP7T 128gb is still around 400, but you're compromising compared to the other flagships, no wireless charging, no IP Rating, meh battery life, meh cameras and slow rollout of security updates, now that I've used multiple brands, this phone made me realise, OP is no longer worth it, at least for me, it is still a great phone don't get me wrong, but just imagine, I've seen Samsung S20 Plus going for £750 and this is a week after being on sale, now imaging when OP8 comes out, the current flagships will be even cheaper and probably better then the OP8, for less :/ they sure need all the paid reviewers to hype this brand, because they have settled for high prices and meh features. There is a simple solution though, release at the same time as Samsung and then the prices will make sense, waiting for OP, means cheaper real flagships.
This is just my opinion, would like to hear your thoughts about this.
There is no other phone that compares. Price for what specs you get. Not sure why people complain about getting updates every month. We get it at least bi-monthly.
From what I see, the Pixel 4XL and Galaxy S10 Plus are both around $900 compared to the OnePlus at $600. That's already a big difference right there. I don't know about Sonys devices. I don't think they are all that popular in the U.S. My device is on the February security patch. Along with the apparent statement that they are doing bi-monthly updates, the coronavirus has also probably slowed things down a bit. I came from an LG V30 and if you want to talk about slow updates, look no further than LG. Is the phone the best device available? No. But overall, I think this is the best option in this price range. And I have nothing to complain about.
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ISamsung S10 Plus around £350 and Samsung Note 10 are around £400
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Really? Get them then!
Oh, don't forget the special circumstances the world is facing. And also, the size of both companies.
sansanc said:
Really? Get them then!
Oh, don't forget the special circumstances the world is facing. And also, the size of both companies.
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I did that is why I'm saying that the OP7T is just meh, for cheaper prices you get better phones, OOS is nice don't get me wrong, the OS is very fast, but just wished for a better battery, camera and other perks like IP rating, here in the UK it rains a lot, so any protection against that is welcome, at the moment I think the best Price to performance ration are Sony phones (used, like new condition), you get near stock Android, monthly updates and very good cameras (xperia 1 and 5 at least), all this for less then £300, my only complaint about Sony is the fingerprint placement, could not get use to it, that was the reason for selling it.
And don't believe that OP is a small company, they want to make you think that, but they're owned by BBK, one of the biggest phone companies at the moment.
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I did that is why I'm saying that the OP7T is just meh, for cheaper prices you get better phones, OOS is nice don't get me wrong, the OS is very fast, but just wished for a better battery, camera and other perks like IP rating, here in the UK it rains a lot, so any protection against that is welcome, at the moment I think the best Price to performance ration are Sony phones (used, like new condition), you get near stock Android, monthly updates and very good cameras (xperia 1 and 5 at least), all this for less then £300, my only complaint about Sony is the fingerprint placement, could not get use to it, that was the reason for selling it.
And don't believe that OP is a small company, they want to make you think that, but they're owned by BBK, one of the biggest phone companies at the moment.
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Ok, not a oneplus salesman, but i think i should say this:
- First you should not compare the prices of used phones with new ones, that's simply not fair. 400 pounds for a note 10? New? Nah.
- Better camera? K, it may not be the very best, but i think it's quite competent.
- IP rating? Is that you really want? Just because they haven't IP rating, doesn't mean they aren't water proof. Oneplus is water proof at least 2 or 3 models ago.
For me, having fast, fluid and clean OS beats any spam that samsung or other brands have on their phones. I got a xiaomi phone months ago. Waiting 2 weeks (sometimes even more) just to unlock the bootloader? Nah... K, the camera is good, but then, the software is just meh.
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Ok, not a oneplus salesman, but i think i should say this:
- First you should not compare the prices of used phones with new ones, that's simply not fair. 400 pounds for a note 10? New? Nah.
- Better camera? K, it may not be the very best, but i think it's quite competent.
- IP rating? Is that you really want? Just because they haven't IP rating, doesn't mean they aren't water proof. Oneplus is water proof at least 2 or 3 models ago.
For me, having fast, fluid and clean OS beats any spam that samsung or other brands have on their phones. I got a xiaomi phone months ago. Waiting 2 weeks (sometimes even more) just to unlock the bootloader? Nah... K, the camera is good, but then, the software is just meh.
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I agree with you, I prefer the OnePlus fluid OS over Samsung and any other phone out there and not too mention here in the US OnePlus is much cheaper, and people forget that this Corona virus played a huge part with OnePlus being delayed on their updates, before all of this I could of sworn they was on point with their updates that I could remember unless I'm mistaken. Samsung makes great phone but their software is meh, same with other phone manufacturer, if it ain't stock Android I don't want it, I'm already too spoiled with it.
I just got a T-Mobile OP7T that was $499. It is currently on February security patch. I will be switching to Beta once I get the unlock bin. Beta 2 in on March security patch.
To me every phone I look at is a comprise somewhere. I care about the software experience the most so I go for oneplus. Im not a fan for samsung UI. This is the best camera Ive had on a smart phone but im coming from Moto X4 and OP6T. The camera is sufficient for my personal needs. You do you. I enjoy my OP7T but get the phone that works best for you.
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I recently got the OP7T and a few others before this one and there are some things that are just meh... One of them is, the famous line that most big youtube tech reviews say, "Oneplus is famous for timely updates" but is it really? Mine is still on the Jan security update, the Samsung Note 10 and the Sony Xperia 5 I had before, those were getting security updates every month, not saying that this is a deal breaker, the phone is fast and fluid with the stock Android experience, but bashing other manufacturers compared to the OP, saying that OP is very good with updates, that is simply not true. A few more reasons why Oneplus is just meh, the price, sure at launch it's hard to beat, but in the used market there are way better alternatives, here in the UK at least, Pixel 4 XL are around £450, Xperia 1 and 5 are around £280, Samsung S10 Plus around £350 and Samsung Note 10 are around £400, now the OP holds value for longer for sure, example, the OP7T 128gb is still around 400, but you're compromising compared to the other flagships, no wireless charging, no IP Rating, meh battery life, meh cameras and slow rollout of security updates, now that I've used multiple brands, this phone made me realise, OP is no longer worth it, at least for me, it is still a great phone don't get me wrong, but just imagine, I've seen Samsung S20 Plus going for £750 and this is a week after being on sale, now imaging when OP8 comes out, the current flagships will be even cheaper and probably better then the OP8, for less :/ they sure need all the paid reviewers to hype this brand, because they have settled for high prices and meh features. There is a simple solution though, release at the same time as Samsung and then the prices will make sense, waiting for OP, means cheaper real flagships.
This is just my opinion, would like to hear your thoughts about this.
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Being a developer friendly device ia the number 1 advantage. Price vs performance is the 2nd for me. If you researched before buying the 7t about wireless charging and ip rating, then you are at fault. The battery life is phenomenal for me because i know what im installing and what not.
Go get urself an iphone. I feel like oneplus 7t is too complicated for you.
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Being a developer friendly device ia the number 1 advantage. Price vs performance is the 2nd for me. If you researched before buying the 7t about wireless charging and ip rating, then you are at fault. The battery life is phenomenal for me because i know what im installing and what not.
Go get urself an iphone. I feel like oneplus 7t is too complicated for you.
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Uhh someone got offended... I've been flashing and repairing phones for 10 years and nowadays, there's no real advantages to flashing custom ROMs, they are sometimes unstable, you lose some functionality (Android Pay, banking apps, etc) and camera quality takes a hit (most times), nowadays keeping the bootloader locked is just fine, GCAMs work great on most phones now, customisation is also possible without rooting, so what do you need custom ROMs nowadays? If Price vs Performace and dev friendly is what you want, Xiaomi phones are way cheaper, yes you have to wait a while to get the bootloader unlocked, but once that time has passed, you normally have great Dev support, with great Pixel Experience ROMs.
iOS sure I use them sometimes, but I get bored of them quickly and I have enough experience with multiple brands to get to this conclusion, I got the 7t to see what the fuss was all about, I knew what I was going to get into in terms of features and that is why I was expecting more. In the used marked this brand is not worth it, that's all I'm saying, I always buy used, never going to pay for a new phone if used they are so much cheaper and look like new, if I was looking into a new OP7T and a new S10+ I get it, but in the used marked, there's so better alternatives.
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they are sometimes unstable, you lose some functionality (Android Pay, banking apps, etc) and camera quality takes a hit (most times)
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This.... Obviously you dont know what you are doing in order to fix those "functionality". Lots of stuff you can do to fix those. You might be one of those thinking that oh ill buy the 7t cause they said she said he said. and then vents out its not perfect. lmao.
What it all boils down to is personal preference. Personally I would buy a used OP over any other used phone, especially Samsung. Do they make excellent devices, yes, without doubt. But their OneUI or whatever the OS skin they are using is a huge drawback IMO. A dedicated button for a personal assistant that the average user can't remap... it just doesn't make sense to me. I don't like when something that should be an option is forced upon me like that. My wife loves Samsung phones. She has the s10 but hates the bixby button. I had the 6t but broke the screen. So I was using my wife's previous Note 8 phone for a month or two until the 7t was released. I was able to remap the bixby button with a pc and adb. My wife would never have been able to figure that out and I'm assuming most Samsung users don't have any idea what remapping hardware buttons even means. The only good phone I remember LG releasing was the Nexus 5.... again personal opinion. For me cameras aren't a big deal... I can honestly tell you that if I take pictures of my kids opening presents on either my 7t or my wife's s10 and then post them to social media not 1 person will say "OMG what kind of phone took those ****ty/awsome photos!" Nobody will be able to tell or care enough to scrutinize each and every picture. I was not huge into photography before smart phones and I still am not. I take pictures during certain events in my life.. Not for photo competitions. IP rating.. OP has addressed this many times. The only reason they have not gotten certified is bc the cost would trickle down to the consumer. Their phones have been waterproof for a couple generations now... just w/o the sticker that says so.. kinda like a marriage license. If you get married, but lose the piece of paper that proves it, does that mean I am no longer married? I'm sure my wife would strongly disagree. The other drawback I hear ppl complain about is wireless charging. I personal don't care.. I charge my phone @ night or in the car... granted I did buy the warp car charger and it's awesome... but other then that I don't care... It takes maybe 2 seconds to plug in my phone rather then just set it down... have we really got that lazy? I bought my wife a wireless charging pad for her Samsung phones... and she doesn't use it.. ever. Don't ask me why.. I've asked... but she doesn't know why. For me personally it's all about the user experience or the software. I don't flash custom roms anymore.. but alot of ppl do. OnePlus is very Dev friendly. I do however root my phone with Magisk. If I purchase a phone, any, phone that is my property. If I want to get into the system files and **** everything up that is my choice. It is becoming damn near impossible to have that choice on other brands especially Samsung. Its even getting harder on OP devices... but nothing like Samsung. Not being able to root a phone that I paid for... that is my property.. Is a complete deal breaker for me. It is also why I will never buy any phone that is Verizon branded. So I guess I will end where I started.. It all boils down to personal preference. I didn't realize this was so long lol... sorry
Yeah, i agree, but most people don't care root stuff. They just want a ready to use phone.
I am feeling a bit fed up with so many google apps on the phone....
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I recently got the OP7T and a few others before this one and there are some things that are just meh... One of them is, the famous line that most big youtube tech reviews say, "Oneplus is famous for timely updates" but is it really? Mine is still on the Jan security update, the Samsung Note 10 and the Sony Xperia 5 I had before, those were getting security updates every month, not saying that this is a deal breaker, the phone is fast and fluid with the stock Android experience, but bashing other manufacturers compared to the OP, saying that OP is very good with updates, that is simply not true. A few more reasons why Oneplus is just meh, the price, sure at launch it's hard to beat, but in the used market there are way better alternatives, here in the UK at least, Pixel 4 XL are around £450, Xperia 1 and 5 are around £280, Samsung S10 Plus around £350 and Samsung Note 10 are around £400, now the OP holds value for longer for sure, example, the OP7T 128gb is still around 400, but you're compromising compared to the other flagships, no wireless charging, no IP Rating, meh battery life, meh cameras and slow rollout of security updates, now that I've used multiple brands, this phone made me realise, OP is no longer worth it, at least for me, it is still a great phone don't get me wrong, but just imagine, I've seen Samsung S20 Plus going for £750 and this is a week after being on sale, now imaging when OP8 comes out, the current flagships will be even cheaper and probably better then the OP8, for less :/ they sure need all the paid reviewers to hype this brand, because they have settled for high prices and meh features. There is a simple solution though, release at the same time as Samsung and then the prices will make sense, waiting for OP, means cheaper real flagships.
This is just my opinion, would like to hear your thoughts about this.
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You're a privileged guy in a privileged country.
From where I am, all the other phones you mentioned are at around twice the price of the OnePlus 7T, brand new.
The only other value for buck phones we have here are Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo, and Realme.
this brand is expensive because you're being robbed of {long list of features} and their software developments costs are near zero. what's next. remove display? stop creating 1+ wallpapers per model to save few more bucks? hard to believe an alternative "flagship" brand does opposite of what such companies normally did - remove SD card, jack, Qi, Qc, IP etc. Exactly opposite to #NeverSettle slogan.
personally i'm going to suffer with 7T model for couple of months til Xperia 1.2 comes. That's how i imagine a flagship: no bs notch, bezels to finally hold your phone better, SD, jack, Qi, IP, 21:9 screen.. all perfect. 100% flagship.
however there are superlatives about OnePlus brand:
* battery - best of the market
* speed - best of the market
* community support or rootabilty - best of the market
some tech advances were great : they got fast refresh screens sooner, they got under display fingerprint sooner (samsung's still doesn't work well while generations 6T -> 7 -> 7T -> 8 already exist) and "invisible features" are still premium (wifi speeds, call clarity, speakers performance etc).
camera is great. so what's missing?
all i hate is iphone style removing of features and lowcost brand style of not paying for licences. i hate having 10 Qc3 chargers and not being able to charge the phone fast in any location because they don't want to pay the licence. i hate having Qi charger next to bed and not able to comfortably place the phone on it, and pick it up multiple times without struggle of using cable.
so what's the direction of the brand then?
90hz/120hz is already boring and no new innovation in sight.
well.. they have to go back to the roots.
model 8 will bring "back" wireless charging and IP68.
and if no more innovation in next iteration, they will have to bring SD card and jack.
I don't know about you but my answer is NO. This thing did not live up to my expectations at all. The specs read like they are all premium but the device is low quality at best. Using the device is an actual nightmare. The camera is a blurry mess, the GPS never locks, the file system is crap and freezes up when you try to load things. I bought into the gimmick and I lost... Anybody want to buy this piece of junk for a low price so I can buy an iphone and just have something that works?
OH... the bluetooth constantly bugs out... another thing that annoys me every single day.
I like the phone just don't love it. My Pixel 2 XL still feels better when I pick it up. What chaps my hide is when my photos disappear or when my phone app just disappears when I'm talking to someone.
The 7T is just perfect. But I won't buy newer phones if they have display a la "Samsung Edge". I hate the curved one.
I found the 5T to be super premium build quality. It's amazing. The Pixel 2 XL I bought at the same time was absolute junk. It had a noticeably poorer build quality and a really bad OLED screen.
I am getting a 7T Friday and will see if they maintained the great build quality (although I had an 8 Pro I returned for a week and it had excellent build quality like my 5T). I can't see where the OP is coming from regarding it not feeling premium? Is it just an OS perspective? I only ran OOS on my 5T for a couple weeks before switching exclusively to AOSP.
Sorry but this is nonsense! your argument is vague and silly. what is "low quality"? I still have my oneplus one, the oneplus 3t, oneplus 5t, all working good and now a 7t, which looks great and is great....
Absolutely yes! I find my 7T is perfect and worthy for the price paid. I don't have any issues or hardware errors.
Rooted and using a custom kernel
I don't know actually. I find the OnePlus phones to be still very good, but I'm kinda disappointed on how the team is struggling to keep them updated since they began to release lot of phones every year.
Plus, I like the improvements they made with the camera on the new OP8 Pro, but I want a phone that is totally comparable to iPhones/Galaxy phone in that area if I have to spend 900+ euros.
The 7T is literally perfect.
This is my first OP phone and I'd say - yes. I hope there'll be new OP phone without curved display.
If they release reasonably priced phones with flat screens. The price for the 8-series is too much considering it's a tencent phone.
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If they release reasonably priced phones with flat screens. The price for the 8-series is too much considering it's a tencent phone.
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I would gladly pay $1000 for a flat screened 8 Pro. But it doesn't exist and the S20+, even ignoring the terrible OS skin, is $1350 from Samsung unlocked. That is just too much for basically the same phone and a crippled software experience. And the S20+ has a curved screen as well! Although not as bad as the 8/8 Pro.
I have been with OP for the last 3 months, 7T is my first OP. Feel happier than with the other chinese brand X (4 years with them).
I recommend the OP, but please no pop up camera and curve edge.
I have to agree with the OP.
I'm having the exact same issues they are. Since most are software related I was hoping updates and custom ROMs could fix,a real shame there isn't any development for this device
For me 7T is almost perfect. I love it. If only battery and average stock camera indoor pic were better. I love to tinker my phone so with gcam , camera issues are solved ?. Since I don't game , so battery is enough for me to last full day with 20% left. YMMV.
I went from OP2 to HTC U11 to OP7T. Have no regrets. Will purchase OP9T if there are no better alternative. I change my phone every 2 years.
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Cowbell_Guy said:
I have to agree with the OP.
I'm having the exact same issues they are. Since most are software related I was hoping updates and custom ROMs could fix,a real shame there isn't any development for this device
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Have you even looked in this forum for custom roms and kernels?
murtazaxda said:
I have been with OP for the last 3 months, 7T is my first OP. Feel happier than with the other chinese brand X (4 years with them).
I recommend the OP, but please no pop up camera and curve edge.
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What brand? We want to know!
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Have you even looked in this forum for custom roms and kernels?
What brand? We want to know!
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Yes, there are as far as I know just 2 ROMs out there... Neither work with MMS on Verizon.
If you have another recommendation would love to hear it- for me just looking for stability and speed.
Thanks for everyone on this forum helping make the device great!
Yep, had three... OnePlus One, 6T, 7T (bought the 7T when the price went down, sold the 6T).
I don't buy them when they first are released. I wait until a new one is about to be released, then pick up the previous years model
typically at a reduced price.
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Yes, there are as far as I know just 2 ROMs out there... Neither work with MMS on Verizon.
If you have another recommendation would love to hear it- for me just looking for stability and speed.
Thanks for everyone on this forum helping make the device great!
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There are three ROMS available right now. I would recommend Omni for speed and stability, but not sure about your specific use-case.
IDK, no matter what setting I pick, the ringtone for google messages does not work and the do not auto update option in playstore does not work. This is only an issue on the 7T.
I was just interested to see who here plans on upgrading to the Pixel 7 / Pro come October? I'm on the fence but leaning towards sticking with my 6 Pro for another year. From what I've seen, spec-wise, I do not see it as a significant upgrade. And Android 13 is Android 13 on either phone. I tend to upgrade most years and am typically disappointed with the result (since my Pixel 4 XL, which I really did like). I mean, it's exciting to get a new phone but certainly not necessary unless you have a good reason (damage or whatever).
What say you all?
If the battery life, camera flaring issues and cellular connectivity is better, I might upgrade at the end of the year. I really like my 6 Pro, but its just those few things that been a bit of a pain. My OnePlus 8 Pro on Android 12 have had less issues overall compared to this phone, and being on 5G doesn't murder the battery life as much as it does on my 6 Pro.
I've read that Google's trade-in policies can be sketchy at times. I had thought about trading in the 6 Pro for the 7 Pro, but I've been on the fence with that.
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I was just interested to see who here plans on upgrading to the Pixel 7 / Pro come October? I'm on the fence but leaning towards sticking with my 6 Pro for another year. From what I've seen, spec-wise, I do not see it as a significant upgrade. And Android 13 is Android 13 on either phone. I tend to upgrade most years and am typically disappointed with the result (since my Pixel 4 XL, which I really did like). I mean, it's exciting to get a new phone but certainly not necessary unless you have a good reason (damage or whatever).
What say you all?
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Think I'll wait for the 8. The 7 sounds like a minor update so far, hardware wise. Some have speculated that the 8 may be produced on Samsung's 3nm Process, although others have said that it may not because it will be too expensive. I've got the 2XL, 4XL and 6 Pro, so just may stick with the 2 yr updates.
Yes, though I'm considering trying the next Samsung flagship for fun too
Come to think of it, excpet for the OG Pixel XL (I always use XL phones excpet for the Pixel 3, which I don't like) ), I have not liked the 3 and 5 series AT.ALL. *for obvious reasons) and still have my 2XL and 4XL as cherished backsups and am totally in love with my P6P.
So it looks like the odd-numbered series I don't like and the even I do, at least so far, so will probably not upgrade.
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Come to think of it, excpet for the OG Pixel XL (I always use XL phones excpet for the Pixel 3, which I don't like) ), I have not liked the 3 and 5 series AT.ALL. *for obvious reasons) and still have my 2XL and 4XL as cherished backsups and am totally in love with my P6P.
So it looks like the odd-numbered series I don't like and the even I do, at least so far, so will probably not upgrade.
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I love the superstition, haha.
I remember the days where upgrading your phone was a BIIIIIIG deal. This goes back to my days of having a Samsung Captivate. I mean, each new phone was a totally new experience. Now, not so much. I'd probably still be happy with my Pixel 4 XL. But I always trade my phones in to get a discount. At this point, though, I really see no reason to upgrade to the 7. Maybe when the prices drop later in the year or in 2023 it would make more sense but I am USUALLY The guy that buys the new Pixel on day 1. Definitely not this year.
Nope. Next phone is going to be either a Pixel Fold, Galaxy Z Fold 5, or the Pixel 8 Pro.
Nope. Same Modem I read. And No 50MP shots really left a terrible taste in my mouth. 12MP is 12MP I don't care if it's BINNED or not. My 3aXL took better pictures and that really burnt me.
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Think I'll wait for the 8. The 7 sounds like a minor update so far, hardware wise. Some have speculated that the 8 may be produced on Samsung's 3nm Process. I've got the 2XL, 4XL and 6 Pro, so just may stick with the 2 yr updates.
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Same here, I only got the even numbers Pixels.
Still using my 4 XL, I'm having a hard time parting with it
But I'm probably gonna use my 6 Pro very soon now that Android 13 has finally ironed out the bugs of 12.
I'm still slightly worried about the battery life and cell reception though.
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I'm still slightly worried about the battery life though.
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I know the September update did address the battery life specifically, if that eases your mind at all.
My wife and I will likely either be waiting for the Pixel 8 Pro / XL / SuperMondo, or potentially until sometime after all security updates stop for the Pixel 6 Pro, so sometime late 2026 or early 2027.
Edit: We did similar for the Pixel 1/XL - didn't update until after it stopped receiving monthly updates.
I've been testing MVK that is under volted and it has cleaned up a lotttt of the heat this phone use to give me. And he's UV the modem as we speak. We playing with . Android 13 and MVK have honestly solved 96% of my problems I had with this Raven.
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it has cleaned up a lotttt of the heat this phone
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Yeah, I've found the heating issue to be problematic myself. In fact, I think it's led to quite a few unplanned reboots of my phone. It happens a lot ON the Pixel Stand, as a matter of fact.
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Yeah, I've found the heating issue to be problematic myself. In fact, I think it's led to quite a few unplanned reboots of my phone. It happens a lot ON the Pixel Stand, as a matter of fact.
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That's why I don't like wireless charging. Nothing but heat. And where there's a magnetic field, there's an electrical current, and where there's a electrical current, there's a magnetic field. Understanding this physical principal teaches us that although it is "cool" visually, it's not "cool" physically. But yeah this phone has terrible thermals. Since google gave me the middle finger I am tempted to tear the phone apart and see if I can place A. Thermal paste, and B. Thermal pads in the phone in places to allow the phone to act more as a heat sink. But as of now my phone rarely goes above 120f anymore and the battery is consistently below 100f. It use to COOK on A12.1
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I know the September update did address the battery life specifically, if that eases your mind at all.
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Uh huh, I noticed that in the changelog. Well, let's hope so!
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But as of now my phone rarely goes above 120f anymore and the battery is consistently below 100f
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And what did you do to achieve this besides not using wireless charging? I couldn't quite understand what you meant in your earlier post.
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And what did you do to achieve this besides not using wireless charging? I couldn't quite understand what you meant in your earlier post.
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I'm on a test Kernel of MVK that is under volted. Less heat.
What I need is; faster charging, an improved 4G/5G modem and better wifi connectivity.
What I want is; a much faster processor (not gonna happen), a flat screen (never gonna happen).
Unless they give me a sweet trade in price like Apple, what's the point for a slightly better camera, probably free pixel buds, and the same screen?
If you want all the 4G/5G bands across all carriers in the US, and the ability to root the device that you own and paid for , your stuck with this 2018 era Samsung processor, and low nit screen.
I would probably spring for a Pixel Fold, just to have something new.
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I would probably spring for a Pixel Fold, just to have something new.
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I actually think I would as well.
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Think I'll wait for the 8. The 7 sounds like a minor update so far, hardware wise. Some have speculated that the 8 may be produced on Samsung's 3nm Process, although others have said that it may not because it will be too expensive. I've got the 2XL, 4XL and 6 Pro, so just may stick with the 2 yr updates.
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I have the same opinion as you, probably going to wait for the 8.