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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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The only thing I see turning someone off this phone is the size. If it is too big, steer them to the DNA, GS3 or One X+ (though battery life will suffer with those compared to the GN2). All your listed potential concerns are non existent for me. This coming from a three generation Nexus user.
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I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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I've had the note 2 for a little over 2 weeks and I can answer a few of these for you.
3. The screen is amazing. My sister bought the iphone 5 and we compared screen resolution. I assume since the note is so large it doesn't need to be close to your face so it looks much better.
4. I let my battery go from 100% to 7% and got great battery life. It lasted over 24hrs. Better than any device I've owned other than my iPad. But I dont call and text on my iPad all day either.
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5. I've only used the Spen a few times but it is very handy, and I'm left handed which you can change in the settings. The model is always garbage when they have the pen just hanging there like a detached limb It's much better in 'real life'.
7. Camera is great. I used it to record video and I felt like I was being biased about how great it was, but after uploading the video to facebook people commented wanting to know what camera I was using.
I haven't used touchwiz since I've had this phone. I use Nova Launcher which is great on rhis device.
I think the Note 2 is a great choice for your friend. I was a huge iphone fan and now I wouldn't take anything for my GN2.
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MultiLockOn said:
I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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I waited for the Note 2 for over a year and am very happy with it.
1. TouchWiz is smooth, very smooth. No problems in that respect.
2. The apps I use all work very well and i have many. A few admittedly can seem "out of focus" on the large screen. Ver few!
3. The screen is brilliant. Reading small text is the test and it is crisp and clear, the blacks are as black as night CHOOSE A SCREEN PROTECTOR CAREFULLY!! I have a Copter screen protector on now and it ruins the display quality. Especially text. I am trying to fing en alternative now.
4. The battery is truly phenomenal.I had a couple of busy days at work and so only had time to use it intensively for about 12 hours over a two day period. The battery lasted 2 days 5 hours!!
5. The S-pen is accurate, very useful and a is designers and photo editing nerds (me) dream. That's why i skipped the sII and sIII. It is however also very useful for many other things as well. Navigating web pages and screen menus without zooming in to 400% saves lots of time.
6. Some users have mentioned build defects such as the "creaky" back cover. I came from an SI so this neither bothers me nor worries me. (My SI now works better and faster than it did when i bought it two and a half years ago.) This creakiness will bother someone coming from iphone, The plastic feel will also bother him/her. You will have explain that it is to keep the weight to a minimum.
7a. The picture quality is very good in the right conditions. As with any camera you need to know its limitations. The camera is not as fast as the camera on the iphone. In my experience the iphone camera opens and focuses quicker. Once the Note 2 has focused shats are taken as quick as on the iphone. This is the only thing that makes me jealous of iphone users.
7b. Speaker volume and quality is excellent.
You have many questions but at the end of the day, your friend will be the judge.
I will tell you this. I personally don't know anybody I've shown my Note II who was not impressed. I actually converted one of my co-workers over from an iPhone 4. He was AMAZED at what he was messing. He is absolutely in love with his device and learning more every day.
You won't be able to stop him from having a bad experience. Let him buy the phone, be there for him if he has any questions, and then watch him fall in love with the device. Watch him get giddy when he plugs in his headphones and his most used audio apps pop up. Watch him as uses apps such* as Smart Toggler, Tasker, or other Touch Wiz tweaks to automate toggling WiFi, GPS, Data, and Sound.
There is nothing an iPhone 5 can offer him that he can't find on the Note 2 except iTunes. Then again...Google Play is pretty freakin' impressive. Show him how to remotely install apps from his PC. Make him factory restore his device and then log in to see all his settings + apps restored automatically!
Basically show him the strengths of Android. The Galaxy Note 2 will MORE than speak for itself.
I can answer all of your questions in favor of the Note 2. The deal breaker may just be Android. When you are used to one OS for so long, especially one that never changes it can be hard to make the switch. Android can be overwhelming to someone who is accustomed to the simplicity of iOS. But if he's a little nerdy, or just likes to customize stuff he will dig it.
Either way, he can return it if he doesn't like it. If he gets it from Best Buy there's no re-stocking fee even, and I think you have 30 days...
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1: I experience hiccups occasionally and freezes rarely but its not like a freeze then fc....its more like a slow response
2: Haven't had any problems yet
3: I cam from a s2 skyrocket and the screen is beautiful to me.
4: the battery life REALLY is phenomenal! (just put your words in the right places)
5: For me, the spen is accurate but responsive is really subjective. There was a 1/4 to 1/2 second delay for the Spen (for me atleast and maybe its app related...I don't use the pen much)
6: I havent found any build defects but I'd imagine it will seem of less quality due to the fact the battery is removable and thus the back could have some creaks. The phone doesnt have any flex in it though....but I havent tried very hard to find flex
7: Camera and speakers are ample for me
MultiLockOn said:
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
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are you serious with this one?
there are 40 inches HDtvs with the same resolution of this 5.5 inches cellphone screen... i personally think anything higher than this on a screen this small, your eyes can't see the differences.
As for the battery, i usually do 3 days on a full charge with my Note 2, its an extreme upgrade from my old iphone 3gs (1 day only)
Unlike my iphone, none of the apps crashes.
rotule said:
are you serious with this one?
there are 40 inches HDtvs with the same resolution of this 5.5 inches cellphone screen... i personally think anything higher than this on a screen this small, your eyes can't see the differences.
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Hey great 1st post & throwing you 1st thanks
The only reservation I have with the Note II, is the battery. I realize that there are so many people reporting these outrageously amazing battery times (usually without stating HOW/WHAT exactly they are doing on their phones and how they are managing to achieve these phenomenal battery lives) but I, unfortunately, am not one of those people who have experiences these unheard of battery statistics.
Grant it, standby time has been unrivaled. I've gotten almost 38 hours of battery life on my Note II. However, the most important metric—which is your screen-on time—was less than four hours... many not have even been three hours. I've seen many people reporting 24+ hours of battery with 10+ hours of screen-on time. Again, not sure how people are doing this. I have replaced my old iPod touch with the Note II. The Note I and II are the only phones I've ever had that were TRUE iPod/iPhone music player replacements. If I listen to just a bit of music, look at a few videos stored on my phone, play a few games for a little bit, and add a bit of web browsing to the equation... I can EASILY be down to about 50% battery after only 2.5-3 hours. Nowhere near what other people are reporting. Also, in many professional reviews, it's almost a toss-up with reported battery life. Half of the reviews state the ridiculously crazy amount of battery time others have reported on here, yet the other half are in my camp, stating that the battery is only as good as what you'd expect from a phone like the Note II and it isn't anything to write home about.
So that's the only thing I'd caution someone on. Either you'll be lucky and get the crazy great battery/phone or you'll end up with the red headed stepchild like I apparently have. Beyond that, I can't say anything bad about this phone.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever? no not ever with stock kernel, how ever u throw in note2kernel asylum edition and nothing ever hiccups. NOTHING
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing? this is the one problem with android, yes apps all function flawlessly. however we are not apple. they only have to make a few mods bc well they only make it for iphones ipads etc. so the support is a bit better i would say in that term. but apps on android are amazing. the open sourceness of things is fantastic.
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi? NO COMMENT. i honestly believe the iphone screen is one of the best there is. but the sheer size and quality, ( specs wise it may not be as good as iphone) but i like it so much more than the iphones.
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal? YES yes and YESSSSSSSSS. throw in undervolt and ul be all day. u can easily reach 12 hours screen time ON with HEAVVVVYYYYYY use.
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.? this all depends, after kernel updates and custom rom, there is a small small window of lag behind it but its nothing that will change or make it worse. i think it is phenomenal to be honest with you
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products- i can testify i had a defective unit. 12 days later i went to att and got a new one. my speaker jack was bad, i could not plug it in bc it popped right back out. my usb cable also came lose very very easy. new one i got is absolutely perfect.
7: camera quality/speaker loudness? camera... there i no other like it. the pictures are INSTANT and quality, well i dont need my camera anymore. speaker is loud, but they really couldve used better speakers for this beast.
sling said:
Hey great 1st post & throwing you 1st thanks
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Still wondering if this is sarcasm
BTW as an ex-iphone user, the only thing i miss is the rocker switch to switch from loud to Vibrate and vice-versa of course i think all the +values are worth this loss but i hope samsung will be able to so some kind of rocker switch like this someday (and make it configurable so we can so wathever we want with it )
Dr. Evo said:
The only reservation I have with the Note II, is the battery. I realize that there are so many people reporting these outrageously amazing battery times (usually without stating HOW/WHAT exactly they are doing on their phones and how they are managing to achieve these phenomenal battery lives) but I, unfortunately, am not one of those people who have experiences these unheard of battery statistics.
Grant it, standby time has been unrivaled. I've gotten almost 38 hours of battery life on my Note II. However, the most important metric—which is your screen-on time—was less than four hours... many not have even been three hours. I've seen many people reporting 24+ hours of battery with 10+ hours of screen-on time. Again, not sure how people are doing this. I have replaced my old iPod touch with the Note II. The Note I and II are the only phones I've ever had that were TRUE iPod/iPhone music player replacements. If I listen to just a bit of music, look at a few videos stored on my phone, play a few games for a little bit, and add a bit of web browsing to the equation... I can EASILY be down to about 50% battery after only 2.5-3 hours. Nowhere near what other people are reporting. Also, in many professional reviews, it's almost a toss-up with reported battery life. Half of the reviews state the ridiculously crazy amount of battery time others have reported on here, yet the other half are in my camp, stating that the battery is only as good as what you'd expect from a phone like the Note II and it isn't anything to write home about.
So that's the only thing I'd caution someone on. Either you'll be lucky and get the crazy great battery/phone or you'll end up with the red headed stepchild like I apparently have. Beyond that, I can't say anything bad about this phone.
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your battery life is worse than normal, but not to much. 2.5 - 3 hour screen on for 50% battery is normal, if everything is on.
you can do better if you want to. but for a normal user who don't know what is wake lock, kernel, it's fine.
ScooterG said:
All your listed potential concerns are non existent for me.
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This phone actually sucks. Freezes, terrible battery life and screen is tooooo small.
I love my Note 2. I, like most everyone in this thread have had no issues with this device at all. I don't use TouchWiz though as I prefer Nova for the customization benefits. I came from a GS2 and for me it was a huge upgrade. The most deterring thing is the screen size, for me it isn't a big deal. My fiancee (she's only 4'10") loves to use my phone and the size doesn't bother her. Granted she has to use 2 hands but it's worth it. It's a great device and will only get better. Battery life is pretty good, but I also don't get these crazy reports of 10+ hours of screen time and 1+ days till dead on top of the screen time. I average 4 hours with just about everything turned off except Mobile Data, WiFi and sync. Disabled most of the pre-installed bloatware and I do have a live background. The S-Pen is so so for me, in certain apps it's a little slow but others it's spot on with where I draw. Haven't cared to adjust the pen itself since I don't use it all that much. All in all I am very impressed and highly recommend this phone.
I think getting the crazy 1 day + battery life has a lot to do with the way you customize the phone settings.
I used to blow through the entire battery in 4 hrs as well but since learning more about different roms/kernels and other things that drain your battery I have managed to stretch it to 1 day 14 hrs with similar heavy usage
Like I said you have to get the settings just right. Also in my experience these 1 days + between charges are only attainable when im at home on weekends and have wifi on 24 hrs a day. LTE is a huge battery drain not to mention that it has not been implemented everywhere so you also lose battery when the phone toggles between LTE and whatever else is available at the time.
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MultiLockOn said:
I'm sort of the local android advocate where I go to school, and I've convinced a close friend to purchase the note 2 when his contract expires soon. He's coming from an iphone and I've promised him so many things that android delivers that Apple fails to do. In my personal opinion, Samsung is the way to go; they make the fastest phones with best optimization and I'd be hard pressed to purchase anything by any other manufacturer (lg, htc, motorolla, etc). Also in my opinion, the note 2 is by FAR the best phone out now (even more so than the nexus 4, go look at the massive amount of problems they're experiencing). I recommend him the note 2 because he live design and I think he'll appreciate the spen coupled with the note 2s great engineering. However, there's some things I truly need to know. I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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1) I have yet to experience anything wrong with touch wiz ui. Never had a freeze or shut down and I have quite a few apps installed as well.
2) Apps. There are (I imagine) apps that aren't as good as others. Of all the apps that I use/used I haven't had any that have even slowed the note 2 down.
3) the screen is absolutely awesome. There have been tests done that compare this to the iPhone 5 and they are dead even.
4) battery life is the best I've seen on any smartphone period. I've had lots of phones including an iPhone.
5) The spen is very accurate. Dead on. The only gripe I have about the spen is when you hover it shows up on the screen. I can hold my spen about 2-2.5"away from the screen and it pops up. I wish it had to be held just s little closer before recognizing it.
6) mine is built very solid and feels strong in my hand (s). Some units were reported to have usb issues not fitting tightly and even falling out when you plug it in. I haven't experienced that. But one would take it back for a new one should they get a unit with that issue. No squeaks, noises or moans out of this thing.
7) speaker loudness is good enough. Camera quality is superb with so many options coming on the stock unit. The are tons of other camera apps that are available to suit your fancy as well.
I haven't had anything wrong with my unit. No speed calls call clarity is fantastic. Easily heard and the pression on the other line never complains they can't hear me or otherwise.
If your friend had even a similar experience with his potential until that I've had he'd be thanking you for years to come. There are so many options and customizations you just can't get with iphones that are easily available for Android. I jumped from the Apple bandwagon to android a little over a year now and can't believe it took me that long.
One recommendation tho, when you both get your new note2's get a FlyGrip put on it. It'll allow for true one-handed operation without jeopardizing losing control of your device and dropping it. Plus it serves as a nice stand. In my opinion the FlyGrip is a must have for phones and tablets alike.
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MultiLockOn said:
I don't want to set him up with an android phone and have a bad experience thus shutting him out to the idea altogether, the last thing I want is him running to the iPhone 5 so, can you guys answer me these.
1: even with jelly bean, are there hiccups? Freezes in touchwiz ever?
2: are apps well optimized? Smooth, with no crashing?
3: is the screen beautiful despite the low ppi?
4: is the battery life REALLY that phenomenal?
5: how accurate and responsive is the spen. The model in the store left much to be desired. It was very unresponsive.
6: are there build defects with this device often? Sammy normally does a good job producing their products
7: camera quality/speaker loudness?
Or any issues in general that would put a newcomer off. I'd really like his conversion to android to be flawless, thus beginning my slow progression into leading android to world domination! Thanks in advance!
Edit: oops! Thought this was qa! Move this to the question section please
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First off...you need to understand something...folks can have a bad experience..regardless of wither the phone is perfect for you and others or not. You need to really see what he does with his I-phone before trying to convince him to change. Many I-phone lovers have a great deal invested in them not only for the phone and apps..but other apple products,and if he is one of these types..chances are his experiences will differ greatly than someone who isn't so invested..If he is only used to using I-Phones and uses a Mac instead of a PC...has Apple TV..and I-pads..it is going to be a hard sell..
Now..if he isn't one of these types..then you still need to see what he likes and dislikes about the phone he is currently using and show him the differences in a good working model of the Note II...there are many stores that seem to have some non-functioning demo units that these units that have been screwed up by folks playing with them while on display..I've see several like this..so..just beware...You need to find out what he wants to do with his phone and what his expectations are....Now to your questions..
1) Some times..just as with any phone that is on the market..Samsung is not immune to this...nor is Apple...and for anyone here to say otherwise is biased ignorant or just a hater of Apple.
2) For the most part...yes...but that is not to say you or anyone else won't get a bad one from time to time...wither it is coming from Apple's app store or Google's...Apps for Android has to span so many different versions of phones as opposed to Apple apps...so some that work flawlessly on one persons phone may not on another's phone.This is why some say Apple is better...and Android is fragmented..I can say it's a lot better today than just a year ago..Apple is not immune to having bad apps it does and has happened..
3) Absolutely it is...and it is one of the main selling points of the phone..It is night and day compared to any of the smaller screens out there including the I-phone 5.
4) Yes & no...it can be or it can be average...or in some cases dismal...and a lot is going to depend on the individual...and a-lot is going to depend on the phone itself. I can say this..I've had much better luck with mine than some have and have better luck than with any other Android phone I have used in the past..The nice thing about it though..is this forum and the folks here that go out of their way to help those with issues...unlike the standard answer one will get on the majority of I-phone forums and that is to take it back..
5) Like I said in the beginning...you can't always measure a phone by what you see as a demo unit..Way too many little hands doing their best to bork it..but mine is very responsive.
6) You will have defects in any manufacturers phone...including Samsung or Apple. Both are for the most part exceptional phones..Some folks have to have a 100% perfect product and will scream bloody murder if it isn't...some aren't so picky..This will be up to the person your trying to convince really..and as long as he understands this..and understands if he gets a damaged one to take it back..it's a no brainer.
7) Both are excellent..both have some minor differences between makes..but both will do a great job..If a person needs a better camera...they should get a dedicated camera IMHO...and as too the loudness and quality of the speakers..my Note II is louder than any unaided I-phone out there..This was something I disliked about my other Android phones...but on this one..it is one of the things like the screen size that blows away the competition entirely.
So...I have to ask..is you friend happy with his I-phone now ? Are you just trying to get them to switch because of your preference ? If yes to both..your possibly setting yourself up for a very unhappy situation..If they are really wanting to switch..they will..Many folks are deeply disturbed by Apple's relentless lawsuits..and lack of recent innovations...Many more are seeing all of the negative TV adds and are questioning themselves as well..Just know this before you say much more to them..if they are the type of individual that wants to set it and then forget it..they may be much better off with a Apple I-phone than a Android one..While most Android phones can be used like that as well in reality...the simple fact is the majority of I-phone users expect theirs to work perfectly out of the box...and many past Android phones which are the bulk of the phones on the market haven't been that way. While you may be here and can see what can and can't be done to them...you have to ask them if they are willing to actually learn how to do this..Many many people aren't willing to mess with their phones by either jail breaking them...or rooting them and installing custom features..so they are a set it and forget it type of individual...
Phone for phone comparing the Note II against a 4s I-phone..is a no brainer really..it offers so much more that that one..Comparing it to a I-phone 5..will depend entirely on the individuals taste/wants/needs..and also what their carrier offers as far as connectivity for LTE as well as how deeply they are invested in Apple products..and their family& friends as well. From a purely personal perspective..I prefer my note to either the 4s or 5 I-phones because of what I do with it..and that is something your friend is going to have to decide for themselves...
This is about as unbiased as I can be...hope it helps..
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No sarcasm involved.
I was throwing you props for making valid point that has not been made on res....well at least in this forum & for that I gave you thanks on your 1st xda post.
I am looking at selling or trading in my Samsung S7 Edge in order to get something with a larger screen. I have had the Samsung almost 2 years now, no problems with it, I just prefer something larger and more sturdy feeling (previously had a Note 3). I have been looking at moving to Project Fi and therefore getting a Pixel 2XL, however the number of issues the phones have is pretty concerning.
Both the S7 Edge and Note 3 gave me no problems at all, so seeing a list of a dozen different problems that can affect the 2XL is concerning. If you were to be buying another phone tomorrow, would you get a 2XL again? or knowing how unreliable they can be get something else? I realize not every phone is going to be affected, but it seems like a lot of issues.
I also came from an S7 Edge, which is a great phone. The Pixel 2 XL is just better. If you can afford it, get it. It is just a joy to play with. I personally have no problems with the display. There is a hint of blue when looking at the screen from an angle, but that is just no reason to not buy this phone imho. I find the display to be great. Love it. Stability and responsiveness are top notch. You don't have to worry about tripping knox when unlocking and flashing, and the stereo front speakers are just amazing. Wireless charging would have been nice though.
Yes I would, just because I love stock Android and I haven't experienced any issues with my device. Even if you do have issues, I think Google extended the standard one year warranty to two years so you should be safe in that regard.
Most definitely! Unless there was a reincarnation of the Nexus!!
Without a doubt. I bought the 2XL and returned it a couple days later only to buy it again.
I was coming from the s8+ which is a great phone but side by side to a pixel 2 xl, its laggy and the interface is rough.
Pixel 2 XL is smooth... very smooth.
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I am looking at selling or trading in my Samsung S7 Edge in order to get something with a larger screen. I have had the Samsung almost 2 years now, no problems with it, I just prefer something larger and more sturdy feeling (previously had a Note 3). I have been looking at moving to Project Fi and therefore getting a Pixel 2XL, however the number of issues the phones have is pretty concerning.
Both the S7 Edge and Note 3 gave me no problems at all, so seeing a list of a dozen different problems that can affect the 2XL is concerning. If you were to be buying another phone tomorrow, would you get a 2XL again? or knowing how unreliable they can be get something else? I realize not every phone is going to be affected, but it seems like a lot of issues.
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Yes. Battery life and updates much better than mate 9. Love the screen ratio. Wasn't sure I would.
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I love this phone but my wife is not any more impressed with it than her S8+. She upgraded from her S7 edge about the same time I went from a nexus 6P to the 2xl. She can't really see anything this has that she doesn't have on hers. The battery lasts all day for either of us and the SOC is actually pretty much neck and neck every day we compare. To be honest, it's really about whether you dig stock Android and the ability to root and modify stuff. Myself, I left Samsung after the S5 as that was the last one to be really be in the game. I'll never go back. Went to a N6 then 6p and now this. I could not be happier with the phone and am happy to see the scene heating up!
Had Samsung for years prior to the Pixel 2 XL. Can never go back now. Stock android is a joy to use, and this camera is phenomenal. Plus ability to root and customize, it's a no brainer
I've owned every single Samsung phone since the Galaxy Vibrant. I would have considered myself to be a Fanboy. I have my S8+ still. Have not touched it since I have gotten this device. This is my first stock Android device, and I have to say it's pretty damn amazing out of the box. I caught myself just scrolling through the menus to watch the smooth transitions, the lack of lag and stutter is really surprising. I can totally tell what people are talking about when they talk about TouchWiz or the Samsung experience. The screen. I ordered this phone and cancelled my preorder at least 5 times. I hadb the device in hand and was watching all the horror stories everybody is talking about. I found myself looking for every single flaw everybody was experiencing instead of enjoying this device. I ended up returning it with buyers remorse. I had the 64gb version and I forgot the protection package. I kept up on the stories but I found myself really regretting returning it. I bought my black 128gb model and told myself to stay away from the forums and just use the device and see how I feel about it without all the negative buzz. Just using it in daily driver tasks. I not only going myself to really enjoying the display. It's not as Vibrant or over saturated. But I've actually found myself keeping it on the stock settings. Iv also can't believe I forgot up mention battery life... This thing goes on forever. The battery life is so much better than my S8+. I can't imagine how much better that it would be to your S7 Edge. The way I look at it. Samsung is like a Ferrari of cell phones with a bad tune. Amazing car looks great, feels great, but if can't go a whole day without refilling the tank then what's the deal? The 2XL may not look like a cutting edge device, but the tune and the milage sure take it places. I not only would buy this phone again for myself. But I'm looking into getting one for my girlfriend as well. She is hating her S8+. Hopefully this gives you some perspective. I say go for it. You got nothing to lose except a super Vibrant over saturated display.
I will tell you I am on my 6th or 7th pixel for various issues I have lost count and I still want it! Battery is great, camera is unreal, software is fine everything is fine but little blue tint to screen that you wont notice after a few days/week. I just had to get my last replacement XL in and I get bored with the note 8 the pixel is just special and I havent rooted one yet
Yes
Absolutely! Best out there. Is it perfect? No but it comes close. Excellent battery life, camera, quick and smooth. I got the 128gb and for the 1st time I don't miss the lack of sdcard slot.
Would prefer headphone jack, louder ring and notification volume but as I said, I will settle for not quite perfect.
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In all honesty the phone does have its issues that are on on the hardware end. More so the screen having blue tint. If this doesn't bother you then this device would be amazing for you. If you want the fastest updates you don't have much of a choice but to go with google. However new phones will be out in a months time so you might be better off waiting
I came from S8+ which I considered a great device. But I have to quote someone before me: "Samsung is Ferrari among phones, but with a very bad tune."
Can't agree more! So I ditched S8+ with zero regret.
Absolutely! :victory:
Coming from the 6p, the P2XL was a logical upgrade for me, especially since I enjoy rooting and modding my device. My wife has an S8+ While I will agree it has a beautiful screen and superb build quality, I absolutely can't stand TW and some of the lag I've seen on it. It's great for my Mrs, but not my cup of tea. I have zero regrets about the P2XL. It's fast, fluid, easy to theme with root and substratum, and a piece of cake to upgrade when the monthly updates come out. So yes, I'd definitely purchase it again ??
Came from a 6p and multiple nexus's before that, really like the Pixel 2 XL (my second one at least, the first one was horrible blue shift). Biggest disappointment so far is lack of developer/rom support, its kinda shockingly minimal after being used to the Nexus dev community. (also i still think it was priced too high)
Not the best time to buy. Just wait a month as new devices are being released
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Not the best time to buy. Just wait a month as new devices are being released
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Yeah If your interested in the S9 G7 or the like. I doubt thats what the OP is interested in. I'm not anyways. No Pixel or OnePlus type developer phones for another 9 months or so....
Sure I would. I love it, and- despite rumours- it works great.
Also, tell from which device you are upgrading or staying...?
Big news!
quote from http://bgr.com/2018/02/25/galaxy-s9-preorder-pricing-best-deals-t-mobile-vs-verizon/
"Best Buy’s preorders will open on Friday, March 2nd, and Best Buy has a big headline offer to try and entice customers. Best Buy customers save $100 when preordering on a Verizon, AT&T or Sprint plan, on top of saving up to $350 when trading in a qualified smartphone. That’s total savings of $450, although as we note below, Verizon and AT&T are charging significantly more than Samsung for the device, so assuming Best Buy is using Verizon and AT&T’s pricing, the savings compared to buying from Samsung are not as great as it might seem."
That's 390 for S9+ and 270 for S9
What!
Currently have S7 Edge and i'n thinking to get the S9+, but i'm very disappointed with the design.
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I'm coming from a Oneplus 3, i really like this phone(i've tryied s8) but i'm not sure because of modding barriers like locked bootloader and knox counter
Nah!!! Sticking with the best phone...One Plus 5t....
If it doesnt come with the OEM unlock issue the note 8 has (talking about exynos, i dont waste money on crapdragon versions) i will get one.
If it does then ill pass on it like i did not on the note 8.
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In all likelihood I'll be going to the S9+ from the Essential PH-1. The Essential was a terrible choice for me but I couldn't justify over $1000 for a pixel 2XL. I'll likely get the S9+ through my carrier. I've gotten quite used to stock Android over the years so a skinned version on the Galaxy will be different. We'll see....
I'll be getting the S9+ at the beginning of 2019, when the price starts to decrease a little. I'll be upgrading from my S7 Edge which just turned a year old few weeks ago.
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I'll be getting the S9+ at the beginning of 2019, when the price starts to decrease a little. I'll be upgrading from my S7 Edge which just turned a year old few weeks ago.
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Dont do it.
I got a S8+ last december and i regretted it. battery was the worst (3,5-4h sot max) and the software lag too annoying. samsung is good for the first 6 months, then they begin to age rapidly
everybody knows that so i had sell my s8+ for a lot less than i bought it for. got me a mate10pro, happy now.
if u want s9 so badly, try to look for second hand around 2 months after launch... i think thats the better choice if you still want to experience the high
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Dont do it.
I got a S8+ last december and i regretted it. battery was the worst (3,5-4h sot max) and the software lag too annoying. samsung is good for the first 6 months, then they begin to age rapidly
everybody knows that so i had sell my s8+ for a lot less than i bought it for. got me a mate10pro, happy now.
if u want s9 so badly, try to look for second hand around 2 months after launch... i think thats the better choice if you still want to experience the high
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I would have to agree on the first part, where Samsung's software does not age beautifully most of the time (my S7 edge thankfully is still running well and has maintained it's fluidity even after a year). Samsung still needs to learn to prioritise on optimisation IMHO. They focused wayy to much on the UI/UX till they forgot about the core system itself.
And yeah. I might also consider going for a second hand S9+ if the reviews don't go according to my expectations. I'll be waiting for MKBHD's (popular tech guy) review and will be watching it the moment it becomes available.
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I would have to agree on the first part, where Samsung's software does not age beautifully most of the time (my S7 edge thankfully is still running well and has maintained it's fluidity even after a year). Samsung still needs to learn to prioritise on optimisation IMHO. They focused wayy to much on the UI/UX till they forgot about the core system itself.
And yeah. I might also consider going for a second hand S9+ if the reviews don't go according to my expectations. I'll be waiting for MKBHD's (popular tech guy) review and will be watching it the moment it becomes available.
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I will agree, upgrading from a s7e is useless, the only reason that can be is a little more processing power, but still it isn't enough, and s7e for me too is running smoothly although there had been issues with build quality, but i really don't think mate 10 is more in performance than s8, maybe in other areas like ui etc it could be. I will pass on s9 and wait until there is a phone with real upgrade not some marketing gimmicks.
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I will agree, upgrading from a s7e is useless, the only reason that can be is a little more processing power, but still it isn't enough, and s7e for me too is running smoothly although there had been issues with build quality, but i really don't think mate 10 is more in performance than s8, maybe in other areas like ui etc it could be. I will pass on s9 and wait until there is a phone with real upgrade not some marketing gimmicks.
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True, the mate10pro has exceptional battery life as well as lag free UI though. Before s8 I had a huawei Nexus 6p, had great battery life too (got warranty replacement after 1.5 years with fresh battery) so the s8 kinda feld like a downgrade.
I think the CPU speed is highly overrated nowadays and does not make a real impact on everyday use. (Apples Chip ist supposedly 2x faster than 835 but does the iPhone feel 2x faster?
All in all I upgraded for the bezelless screens... Anything else my Nexus 6p was almost as good at.
Anyone else who has a 2016 flagship (s7e or mate 9 or iPhone 7) should not upgrade for another reason than the larger screens... Anything else in the new phones has only improved a little and does not justify the price in my opinion (unless having the latest tech is part of your lifestyle)
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True, the mate10pro has exceptional battery life as well as lag free UI though. Before s8 I had a huawei Nexus 6p, had great battery life too (got warranty replacement after 1.5 years with fresh battery) so the s8 kinda feld like a downgrade.
I think the CPU speed is highly overrated nowadays and does not make a real impact on everyday use. (Apples Chip ist supposedly 2x faster than 835 but does the iPhone feel 2x faster?
All in all I upgraded for the bezelless screens... Anything else my Nexus 6p was almost as good at.
Anyone else who has a 2016 flagship (s7e or mate 9 or iPhone 7) should not upgrade for another reason than the larger screens... Anything else in the new phones has only improved a little and does not justify the price in my opinion (unless having the latest tech is part of your lifestyle)
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Agreed , but iphone 8 and X is almost 2x faster in real life too, so yes cpu power does impact in real life, search for their app loading times and video editing times on web, the fastest android phones were note 8 and then s8, they were lagging almost 1.5x.
And yes mate 10 got excellent battery life too thanks to its 4000 mah battery, i think every phone should have atleast 4000 mah battery these days,
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Agreed , but iphone 8 and X is almost 2x faster in real life too, so yes cpu power does impact in real life, search for their app loading times and video editing times on web, the fastest android phones were note 8 and then s8, they were lagging almost 1.5x.
And yes mate 10 got excellent battery life too thanks to its 4000 mah battery, i think every phone should have atleast 4000 mah battery these days,
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Well I don't know anyone who is editing video on his phone... That's what I mean with everyday a friend friend of mine has iPhone 8 and it doesn't feel significantly faster in my opinion, it's more about ram keeping apps for running (so you don't actually need to look for launch speed) and internet speed
Yes I think the biggest Upgrade in the future needs to be bigger batteries in order to keep up with the screens and all the other new stuff
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Well I don't know anyone who is editing video on his phone... That's what I mean with everyday a friend friend of mine has iPhone 8 and it doesn't feel significantly faster in my opinion, it's more about ram keeping apps for running (so you don't actually need to look for launch speed) and internet speed
Yes I think the biggest Upgrade in the future needs to be bigger batteries in order to keep up with the screens and all the other new stuff
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You know I have the s7 edge since release, it is still a beast. Can handle any game on the play store, lags here and there. But dont thing upgrading is worth it imo. Maybe when foldable phones come lol
Which custom rom & kernel developers will be getting the S9/S9+ ?
If not, will they be getting the Note 9 instead ?
I think i would be upgrading because this sounds like a perfect replacement for iphone-7. As for performance , I think it depends individual to individual on his config and usage patterns. There are 3 galaxy phones in my house including an aging s6 edge and all seem to be working fine.
Yes, its hard to match iphones in their speed and zero-lag but there are so many trade-offs that purchasing a iphone ahead of a s9 or a note-8 is not a worthy option.
I'm on Galaxy Note 4 and LineageOS 14.1. UHD video recording is not working and I need it. Better low light performance too on S9+. I don't like the curved glass though. I'd also much rather take a removable battery over any kind of IP rating but gotta move along with the times, I guess. I don't undertsand the all-glass exterior idea at all - it's slippery and a protective case is a must, adding to the cost.
Definitely getting an S9 as long as there's no down payment on Jump on Demand. On a v30 now, and the thing is just crap. It stutters - literally. As in the sound stutters and I have to reboot to fix it. It also has all kinds of lag on bluetooth stuff. 8 years on Android and never had anything this bad. Going back to Samsung and not looking at LG for a long time again.
I will stay on my S8 for now... S9 designed so bad... ?
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Definitely getting an S9 as long as there's no down payment on Jump on Demand. On a v30 now, and the thing is just crap. It stutters - literally. As in the sound stutters and I have to reboot to fix it. It also has all kinds of lag on bluetooth stuff. 8 years on Android and never had anything this bad. Going back to Samsung and not looking at LG for a long time again.
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I wouldn't buy a US or Canadian version, the bootloader's will be locked again...total waste of money.
Go exynos for sure, the OEM unlock issue is a helluva alot better to have than have the device be totally locked down.
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Hello. I’ve been looking to upgrade to the Note 10+ and a lot of you see to hate it. Should I be worried? Should I look in another direction? I am looking for a beast phone where the battery can hold for a full day, good camera and big screen. What options do I have?
Especially if you are coming from note 9, you are going to miss headphone jack, iris scanner and heart rate /SpO2 sensor.
Apart from that you might face trouble playing m4a files through Samsung Music app.
That's what I don't like about my note 10+. Other than that love everything else.
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believe me you don't go wrong i forget every phone i had use before mi9t and pocof1 and huawei mate 10 pro and note8 and mi mix and every phone before now i use note 10 plus exynos and I don't lesson to any one every thing is excellent battery performance camera and quality
What is your mobile device now? If u have phone which is 2 years old or older, every new phone is the beast. Note 10 is perfect one, ofc. there are few negative staffs, just like the positive one. But you know, everything has this negative and positive part. I'm using Samsung since Galaxy S9, then Note 9 and now Note 10+ and for reason. I was Apple user, but then I realized, that Apple isn't like years ago, when Keynote event was my second christmas and new iPhone was something special. Today I have Note, so I have phone with a big beautiful screen, lot of power, I can have a PC and lot of other things. So, few negatives: battery life, problems with Google backup, no notification LED (you can use AOD notify, and everything is perfect), that fingerprint senzor is something like Russian roulette, it's 50/50, but after few updates, it's getting better. Maybe there not 3,5mm Jack, but I'm using wireless buds, so who cares. For me, the biggest problem is that battery life.. I'm from Europe, so I have Exynos chip and if u using phone for work, few videos, mails, it's not even full day of the using, so am charging through the day. This is all I think. You need to know, what is the best for you, but Note 10 is not a bad choice.
The Note 10+ is a great device, it really is the 'swiss knife' of mobile phones, there are features that you won't even know exist, till you need them.
A lot of people complain about battery life, but for me, on the 'Exynos' variant, it's great, most days I end up with about 20% battery and 6 plus hours SOT.
The games I play perform well, productivity is a breeze with the massive screen, S pen and 'DeX'.
You can customise it to your hearts content, cavernous and speedy storage, great cameras, great connectivity.
What you need to understand is that most people on these forums aren't your average consumer, therefore expectations are likely higher, the same is true of other device forums. So you'll find people *****ing on the 'OnePlus', 'Sony', 'Nokia'....... forums about those devices and possibly conclude that they hate their devices too.
The truth of the matter is that these forums exist in the main, for people to seek advice on issues they're facing with their devices, which can lead to a perception of negativity.
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Especially if you are coming from note 9, you are going to miss headphone jack, iris scanner and heart rate /SpO2 sensor.
Apart from that you might face trouble playing m4a files through Samsung Music app.
That's what I don't like about my note 10+. Other than that love everything else.
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I have been switching around from Samsung to iPhone. I am looking for a device that I can use to its full potential for the long run. I will not be using the Samsung Music App since I use either YouTube or Soundcloud for music.
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What is your mobile device now? If u have phone which is 2 years old or older, every new phone is the beast. Note 10 is perfect one, ofc. there are few negative staffs, just like the positive one. But you know, everything has this negative and positive part. I'm using Samsung since Galaxy S9, then Note 9 and now Note 10+ and for reason. I was Apple user, but then I realized, that Apple isn't like years ago, when Keynote event was my second christmas and new iPhone was something special. Today I have Note, so I have phone with a big beautiful screen, lot of power, I can have a PC and lot of other things. So, few negatives: battery life, problems with Google backup, no notification LED (you can use AOD notify, and everything is perfect), that fingerprint senzor is something like Russian roulette, it's 50/50, but after few updates, it's getting better. Maybe there not 3,5mm Jack, but I'm using wireless buds, so who cares. For me, the biggest problem is that battery life.. I'm from Europe, so I have Exynos chip and if u using phone for work, few videos, mails, it's not even full day of the using, so am charging through the day. This is all I think. You need to know, what is the best for you, but Note 10 is not a bad choice.
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I am currently using the iPhone X 256GB Verizon Unlocked due to the better hardware that the iPhone provided out of all the carriers. I am close to owning it to 2 years now. I too felt the same way about the keynotes from Apple, they were so awesome and always waited on the new and big devices but now? MEH. I am an IT person and just want something I can use on a daily basis that can do more than the iPhone. What exactly is so bad about the battery on the Note 10+? Also, if I do go with the Note 10+, what version should I get? Im asking more in depth about chip differences.
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The Note 10+ is a great device, it really is the 'swiss knife' of mobile phones, there are features that you won't even know exist, till you need them.
A lot of people complain about battery life, but for me, on the 'Exynos' variant, it's great, most days I end up with about 20% battery and 6 plus hours SOT.
The games I play perform well, productivity is a breeze with the massive screen, S pen and 'DeX'.
You can customise it to your hearts content, cavernous and speedy storage, great cameras, great connectivity.
What you need to understand is that most people on these forums aren't your average consumer, therefore expectations are likely higher, the same is true of other device forums. So you'll find people *****ing on the 'OnePlus', 'Sony', 'Nokia'....... forums about those devices and possibly conclude that they hate their devices too.
The truth of the matter is that these forums exist in the main, for people to seek advice on issues they're facing with their devices, which can lead to a perception of negativity.
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Can you elaborate more on the Exynos? I don't quiet know what it is.
There's nothing wrong with the Note 10 + in my opinion except for the fingerprint scanner is small and a little slow but everything else seems good. It's also not even close to being worth $1100 to me. I alternate each week between my OnePlus 7 Pro and Note 10 + and there isn't that much difference between the two in day to day use. If I were you I'd try and get one that was lightly used for around $800-850 or wait till the price drops. I got mine from eBay for $899 (SM-N9750/DS model) and it has been good so far but it's definitely not head and shoulders above other flagships and the screen is brighter on my OnePlus 7 Pro.
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I am currently using the iPhone X 256GB Verizon Unlocked due to the better hardware that the iPhone provided out of all the carriers. I am close to owning it to 2 years now. I too felt the same way about the keynotes from Apple, they were so awesome and always waited on the new and big devices but now? MEH. I am an IT person and just want something I can use on a daily basis that can do more than the iPhone. What exactly is so bad about the battery on the Note 10+? Also, if I do go with the Note 10+, what version should I get? Im asking more in depth about chip differences.
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Look.. If you are looking for daily phone, you can keep your IP X. You know, I'm using phone for almost all day, because of work and all these staffs, so battery life is max 1 day, but I'm sales representative, so I'm different kind of user. But if you just REALLY NEED new daily phone, go for it. Note is very special device, with tons of useful features. If you really looking for upgrade and IP 11 is not your favorite, Note is perfect choice.
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I have been switching around from Samsung to iPhone. I am looking for a device that I can use to its full potential for the long run. I will not be using the Samsung Music App since I use either YouTube or Soundcloud for music.
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Seen that you are coming from IPhone x, you won't miss anything apart from the timely software updates. However Samsung has become pretty good with android security updates these days.
You will be happy with note 10 unless you are an apple fan.
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I am currently using the iPhone X 256GB Verizon Unlocked due to the better hardware that the iPhone provided out of all the carriers. I am close to owning it to 2 years now. I too felt the same way about the keynotes from Apple, they were so awesome and always waited on the new and big devices but now? MEH. I am an IT person and just want something I can use on a daily basis that can do more than the iPhone. What exactly is so bad about the battery on the Note 10+? Also, if I do go with the Note 10+, what version should I get? Im asking more in depth about chip differences.
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Get the Snapdragon US version unless you're a fanatic about custom ROMs and unlocked bootloaders.
This phone blows the iPhone X out of the water (mostly iOS gets blown away by One UI/Android 9). You can actually multi-task like crazy. Unparalleled screen. Amazing everything. Best phone I've ever used, hands down.
And this does WAY more than the iPhone! DeX, customization, automation, split screen, minimized apps, widgets wherever (Android), etc. It's not even a fair comparison in my opinion because iOS is so restrictive.
So it looks like this might be my next phone but I have a few questions
1. Is it still worth it to have my samsung galaxy watch 4? I know there are a few features that you lose if you dont have a samsung device like ECG and body measurement features.
2. Is it going to be better to get the pro instead of waiting til next year to get the s21 ultra because I was thinking about that as well since the price might come down.
1. Yes keep it, you loose very little with this (if anything). You can enable blood pressure and ECG with this (currently running it on OnePlus 8Pro and it works without issues):
How to enable ECG and Blood Pressure features on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
Here's how you can enable ECG and blood pressure monitoring on your Galaxy Watch 4 in all regions, even with non-Samsung phones.
www.xda-developers.com
So just some fiddling around, but you only need to do this once and you're set to go.
2. No one can tell you what is better for you but I can share how I decided to return to Google.
The most important phone feature for me always been smoothness. Long time ago I switched from Nexus 5 to Samsung Note 4. It was supposed to be a step up with the newer processor, but Sammy let me down big time.
I was shook by how much smoother the Nexus was. I was chasing for a better performance for Note 4, so I tried rooting, custom roms etc., but without luck. Nexus 5 was simply much better in that regard.
What I learned about Google phones in the long run:
I was used to getting a poorer and poorer performance from Samsung as the phone aged. With Nexus and Pixels it was always the other way around. In my experience Google phones were not that great when they got released, but in months, with help of updates, they started flying.
I loved the community support around these devices. What most called 'a plain' version of Android, happened to be as rich in functionality as I would want them to be (with help of rooting and some neat apps). Also, Google phones had the reputation of being a compromise choice. E.g. with Pixel 2 people didn't like the screen. Meanwhile I absolutely adored it because I knew there were tools that allowed you to adjust display as you like. If not the community, I would've never learned about this though.
Reviews never called full justice over these devices for some reason. I was rarely finding a review that would justify my experiences with Google phones. It felt like the reviewers were playing around with them for a couple of weeks and then putting them back to the drawer. A Nexus/Pixel in early days without rooting for me seemed like a waste (things have changed now days, I don't see a reason for rooting anymore).
I split ways with Pixel after 2XL. Although it was a really amazing phone, Pixels 3 and 4 didn't seem attractive for me with the price.
I went to OnePlus with 7 PRO which was offering a clean enough OS, smooth performance and insane screen. Really amazing phone.
8 PRO is still ok, but it never felt like a step forwards from 7 PRO (except from camera). Software updates got very slow, i'm not even sure if 8 is supported anymore, lol. I have very little to no hope in regards to the unified OS they are bringing.
I have 0 complaints about Galaxy Tab S7, so I considered Samsung 21 Ultra. I liked it when I got a chance to use it in a store. But after the atrocious experiences with Note 4 and some short time spent with Galaxy 9, 10, I still don't see myself using a Samsung phone.
In Pixel 6 video comments I saw people raging on 21 Ultra for slowness, battery issues so it looks like not much has changed unfortunately.
When I heard about Google working on a chip for Pixel, that got me excited. As long as it's at least comparably as fast as SD 865, but is smooth, I will be more than happy to return to the vanilla Android. Can't lie, I missed it.
Summarizing, if you owned a Pixel before, you should know pretty well what's to expect and whether you liked it or not. If that would be your first Pixel device, just go for it. This year seems to be the best time ever to join #TeamPixel.
BabeShaq said:
1. Yes keep it, you loose very little with this (if anything). You can enable blood pressure and ECG with this (currently running it on OnePlus 8Pro and it works without issues):
How to enable ECG and Blood Pressure features on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
Here's how you can enable ECG and blood pressure monitoring on your Galaxy Watch 4 in all regions, even with non-Samsung phones.
www.xda-developers.com
So just some fiddling around, but you only need to do this once and you're set to go.
2. No one can tell you what is better for you but I can share how I decided to return to Google.
The most important phone feature for me always been smoothness. Long time ago I switched from Nexus 5 to Samsung Note 4. It was supposed to be a step up with the newer processor, but Sammy let me down big time.
I was shook by how much smoother the Nexus was. I was chasing for a better performance for Note 4, so I tried rooting, custom roms etc., but without luck. Nexus 5 was simply much better in that regard.
What I learned about Google phones in the long run:
I was used to getting a poorer and poorer performance from Samsung as the phone aged. With Nexus and Pixels it was always the other way around. In my experience Google phones were not that great when they got released, but in months, with help of updates, they started flying.
I loved the community support around these devices. What most called 'a plain' version of Android, happened to be as rich in functionality as I would want them to be (with help of rooting and some neat apps). Also, Google phones had the reputation of being a compromise choice. E.g. with Pixel 2 people didn't like the screen. Meanwhile I absolutely adored it because I knew there were tools that allowed you to adjust display as you like. If not the community, I would've never learned about this though.
Reviews never called full justice over these devices for some reason. I was rarely finding a review that would justify my experiences with Google phones. It felt like the reviewers were playing around with them for a couple of weeks and then putting them back to the drawer. A Nexus/Pixel in early days without rooting for me seemed like a waste (things have changed now days, I don't see a reason for rooting anymore).
I split ways with Pixel after 2XL. Although it was a really amazing phone, Pixels 3 and 4 didn't seem attractive for me with the price.
I went to OnePlus with 7 PRO which was offering a clean enough OS, smooth performance and insane screen. Really amazing phone.
8 PRO is still ok, but it never felt like a step forwards from 7 PRO (except from camera). Software updates got very slow, i'm not even sure if 8 is supported anymore, lol. I have very little to no hope in regards to the unified OS they are bringing.
I have 0 complaints about Galaxy Tab S7, so I considered Samsung 21 Ultra. I liked it when I got a chance to use it in a store. But after the atrocious experiences with Note 4 and some short time spent with Galaxy 9, 10, I still don't see myself using a Samsung phone.
In Pixel 6 video comments I saw people raging on 21 Ultra for slowness, battery issues so it looks like not much has changed unfortunately.
When I heard about Google working on a chip for Pixel, that got me excited. As long as it's at least comparably as fast as SD 865, but is smooth, I will be more than happy to return to the vanilla Android. Can't lie, I missed it.
Summarizing, if you owned a Pixel before, you should know pretty well what's to expect and whether you liked it or not. If that would be your first Pixel device, just go for it. This year seems to be the best time ever to join #TeamPixel.
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You make some really great points. If I can get those features paired with a 6 pro then I'll probably go for it. I don't normally use those features but it's just something about me if I don't get the full of experience of a device I paid $450 for. This does seem like the perfect time to move over to pixel. Battery life means a lot to me and with that 5000mah I'm pretty much sold on it. On top of that if this is anything like what apple is doing with their bionic chip then battery life should be really good.
I'm also not sure if I should do 128gb or 256gb
I plan on using my cool galaxy watch 4 with this badboy device! Cheers
I just pre-ordered mine. 128gb stormy black. Gonna put a dbrand skin on it
orlans21 said:
You make some really great points. If I can get those features paired with a 6 pro then I'll probably go for it. I don't normally use those features but it's just something about me if I don't get the full of experience of a device I paid $450 for. This does seem like the perfect time to move over to pixel. Battery life means a lot to me and with that 5000mah I'm pretty much sold on it. On top of that if this is anything like what apple is doing with their bionic chip then battery life should be really good.
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I have a galaxy watch 4 with a pixel 4xl. I use the modified apps and they work great. It's not hard at all to get them installed. Simple ADB for the watch.
gettinwicked said:
I have a galaxy watch 4 with a pixel 4xl. I use the modified apps and they work great. It's not hard at all to get them installed. Simple ADB for the watch.
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Thats good to know. I'll do that when i get it
orlans21 said:
So it looks like this might be my next phone but I have a few questions
1. Is it still worth it to have my samsung galaxy watch 4? I know there are a few features that you lose if you dont have a samsung device like ECG and body measurement features.
2. Is it going to be better to get the pro instead of waiting til next year to get the s21 ultra because I was thinking about that as well since the price might come down.
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I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
ailinmcc666 said:
I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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I have bought the phone but I dont have it yet. But that is interesting to hear. Maybe make a post about it in the GW4 forums
ailinmcc666 said:
I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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That maybe android 12 issue rather then phone
ailinmcc666 said:
I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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I have the same setup as you. I don't have this issue at all. Maybe occasionally after a reboot I'll have to go the app and hit connect, but it's quick to do so.
Overall, I think the experience is what I hoped for.
BabeShaq said:
1. Yes keep it, you loose very little with this (if anything). You can enable blood pressure and ECG with this (currently running it on OnePlus 8Pro and it works without issues):
How to enable ECG and Blood Pressure features on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
Here's how you can enable ECG and blood pressure monitoring on your Galaxy Watch 4 in all regions, even with non-Samsung phones.
www.xda-developers.com
So just some fiddling around, but you only need to do this once and you're set to go.
2. No one can tell you what is better for you but I can share how I decided to return to Google.
The most important phone feature for me always been smoothness. Long time ago I switched from Nexus 5 to Samsung Note 4. It was supposed to be a step up with the newer processor, but Sammy let me down big time.
I was shook by how much smoother the Nexus was. I was chasing for a better performance for Note 4, so I tried rooting, custom roms etc., but without luck. Nexus 5 was simply much better in that regard.
What I learned about Google phones in the long run:
I was used to getting a poorer and poorer performance from Samsung as the phone aged. With Nexus and Pixels it was always the other way around. In my experience Google phones were not that great when they got released, but in months, with help of updates, they started flying.
I loved the community support around these devices. What most called 'a plain' version of Android, happened to be as rich in functionality as I would want them to be (with help of rooting and some neat apps). Also, Google phones had the reputation of being a compromise choice. E.g. with Pixel 2 people didn't like the screen. Meanwhile I absolutely adored it because I knew there were tools that allowed you to adjust display as you like. If not the community, I would've never learned about this though.
Reviews never called full justice over these devices for some reason. I was rarely finding a review that would justify my experiences with Google phones. It felt like the reviewers were playing around with them for a couple of weeks and then putting them back to the drawer. A Nexus/Pixel in early days without rooting for me seemed like a waste (things have changed now days, I don't see a reason for rooting anymore).
I split ways with Pixel after 2XL. Although it was a really amazing phone, Pixels 3 and 4 didn't seem attractive for me with the price.
I went to OnePlus with 7 PRO which was offering a clean enough OS, smooth performance and insane screen. Really amazing phone.
8 PRO is still ok, but it never felt like a step forwards from 7 PRO (except from camera). Software updates got very slow, i'm not even sure if 8 is supported anymore, lol. I have very little to no hope in regards to the unified OS they are bringing.
I have 0 complaints about Galaxy Tab S7, so I considered Samsung 21 Ultra. I liked it when I got a chance to use it in a store. But after the atrocious experiences with Note 4 and some short time spent with Galaxy 9, 10, I still don't see myself using a Samsung phone.
In Pixel 6 video comments I saw people raging on 21 Ultra for slowness, battery issues so it looks like not much has changed unfortunately.
When I heard about Google working on a chip for Pixel, that got me excited. As long as it's at least comparably as fast as SD 865, but is smooth, I will be more than happy to return to the vanilla Android. Can't lie, I missed it.
Summarizing, if you owned a Pixel before, you should know pretty well what's to expect and whether you liked it or not. If that would be your first Pixel device, just go for it. This year seems to be the best time ever to join #TeamPixel.
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Thanks for the advice. It does seem like a good time to join the Pixel family. Only device I've seen previously is my partner, who has a Pixel 4a, which I've used a bit, and I found it to be a impressive device.
I'll stick with it for now, maybe do a factory reset without restoring from a backup, go in fresh, and maybe that will help with this problem.
orlans21 said:
You make some really great points. If I can get those features paired with a 6 pro then I'll probably go for it. I don't normally use those features but it's just something about me if I don't get the full of experience of a device I paid $450 for. This does seem like the perfect time to move over to pixel. Battery life means a lot to me and with that 5000mah I'm pretty much sold on it. On top of that if this is anything like what apple is doing with their bionic chip then battery life should be really good.
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Battery life has been strange for me on the device - sometimes it's unbelievably good, other times, it seems to drain quite fast. But I haven't really kept track of my usage on those days, so it could have been something I'm doing sometimes to drain it fast.
ailinmcc666 said:
Battery life has been strange for me on the device - sometimes it's unbelievably good, other times, it seems to drain quite fast. But I haven't really kept track of my usage on those days, so it could have been something I'm doing sometimes to drain it fast.
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It can drain fast if you have weak cell service and its also adaptive battery so it could be learning your usage
gettinwicked said:
I have a galaxy watch 4 with a pixel 4xl. I use the modified apps and they work great. It's not hard at all to get them installed. Simple ADB for the watch.
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Do u need a computer? If yes. Then Is not"simple". Lol
ajftl said:
Do u need a computer? If yes. Then Is not"simple". Lol
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It really is dude. You turn on adb debugging on the watch, connect to it via wifi, put in like 3 commands and done. Also, if you're in XDA, this is probably the most simple thing you do to devices.
Adb connect 'ip'
Adb -s install 'ip' watch4.xxx
Adb disconnect 'ip'
Done
I have no issue with pairing. Phone and watch work good together.