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This morning my Pixel C felt slow and sluggish.
Rebooted and removed recently installed apps but no difference.
Installed a CPU monitoring app and see that the CPU stays at 204Mhz even under load.
Any ideas before I try a full wipe?
Full reset seems to have fixed though notice cpu maxes at 1326
This right?
I'm not sure most CPU monitors know what to do with the X1, I know CPU-Z doesn't recognize it beyond a general "Nvidia Tegra" chip. What app are you using?
I switched from AOSP for acbit but yesterday had the same issue. Tablet felt slow and sluggish.
CPU monitor app showed CPU not scaling.
Went back to stock Oreo and still "feels" slow.
Geekbench4 says single core 926 and multi 2561
This is wrong?
My Pixel C performance is strange still the OREO update. I know this going to sound weird but when in splitscreen, the app on the left in landscape or on the top in portrait is lagging a lot. Scrolling, page swiping, etc.. takes a distinct longer time than expected. The app in the other half of the screen is acting normally.
Could this be related to the same issue?
With the pixel C now discontinued, Google is unlikely to fix a bug, especially if nobody reports it.. Bit of a worry, what to do?
I'm facing this issue as well. Already wiped cache and did factory reset, with no results.
It's now a very fancy digital picture frame.
There is no such problem. I used the first available monitoring program (cpufloat) and the CPU frequency change is shown adequately.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waterdaaan.cpufloat
Vartom said:
There is no such problem. I used the first available monitoring program (cpufloat) and the CPU frequency change is shown adequately.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waterdaaan.cpufloat
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Thanks - in that case, the issue is less obvious to spot but I have definitely noted a lag in split screen mode refreshing the app on the left (yes, I know how strange it sounds..).
In addition, there have been quite a few report of the new January patch release affecting Pixel (phones) users. I can't help thinking our Pixel C issue with the last update and these new issues are too much of a coincidence..
I am hoping Jan patch might fix my Pixel C issue...
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laurentbon said:
Thanks - in that case, the issue is less obvious to spot but I have definitely noted a lag in split screen mode refreshing the app on the left (yes, I know how strange it sounds..).
In addition, there have been quite a few report of the new January patch release affecting Pixel (phones) users. I can't help thinking our Pixel C issue with the last update and these new issues are too much of a coincidence..
I am hoping Jan patch might fix my Pixel C issue...
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At the moment I'm using the kernel I've modified, and I have no problem with scrolling on the left side of the screen in split screen mode.
you can try it.
Install Kernel Auditor and deselect CPU Multi-core power saving option in CPU tab, that was on for some reason.
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Install Kernel Auditor and deselect CPU Multi-core power saving option in CPU tab, that was on for some reason.
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For what? if the frequency control and so works normally
Just updated January-ota and nothing has been solved... What can we do to make google solve it. The bug with the navbar continues and the split-screen is impossible to use
I started a thread when I noticed this bugs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/bugs-android-8-1-t3718156
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Just updated January-ota and nothing has been solved... What can we do to make google solve it. The bug with the navbar continues and the split-screen is impossible to use
I started a thread when I noticed this bugs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/bugs-android-8-1-t3718156
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https://issuetracker.google.com/issues?q=componentid:190923+ Click "Create Issue" Report the bugs in detail how to replicate etc Someone from the dev team should get back to you
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https://issuetracker.google.com/issues?q=componentid:190923+ Click "Create Issue" Report the bugs in detail how to replicate etc Someone from the dev team should get back to you
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I dont know why, but the blue buttons are unclickable for me, so I cant create the issue.
Bringing back from dead.
So if you use Kernel Auditor to turn off some of the cores when this is occurring, the clock speed goes up for the primary core. It's as if they set a total limit, then divide by total core count. When battery charge is above 67%, you get the full max speed. No reboot or anything, just charge it up and you unlock the speed again. I suspect the Oreo kernels have bad throttling algorithm for this CPU.
My Pixel C was lagging quite bad when the battery fell below 67% using stock 8.1 (locked bootloader, everything untouched). I tried reflashing the factory images, but the problem stuck around. I rooted (magisk 18.1) and installed Kernel Adiutor. The problem was obvious, the CPU would heavily throttle (under 67% battery) depending on the amount of core active (with 4 cores, they would all run at ~200 mhz, with 2 cores, about 700 mhz and with 1 core about 1100 mhz). It wasn't so terribly laggy with 1 core running at 1100 mhz, but it was still pretty slow.
To try and troubleshoot the problem I then installed LineageOS 15.1 and followmsi's kernel (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...p-flashable-monthly-update-zip-pixel-t3375591). To my surprise the problem remained, despite the custom ROM and custom kernel. I think there is something wrong with the 8.1 oreo kernel and the Pixel C (see google forum post here: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/x7izNIUIHeI/VO4n9l_DCAAJ ). So I tried a second solution. This time I did the following:
1. Flashed TWRP: twrp-3.2.3-0-dragon.img
2. Flashed in TWRP: Followmsi's unoffical lineageOS 16.0: lineage-16.0-20190206-UNOFFICIAL-dragon.zip
3. Flashed in TWRP: (same session, before booting into LineageOS): OpenGAPPS Arm64 Pico package: open_gapps-arm64-9.0-pico-20190302.zip (m
4. Flashed in TWRP: (same session, before booting into LineageOS): Followmsi's Android 9 custom kernel: tegra-3.18_kernel_pie_dragon_v190205_unicorn-xceed-followmsi.zip
And voila, back to full speed. In fact the tablet seems to run better than ever. After some testing I installed Magisk 18.1 (for root and to pass safetynet), and everything is running great. The CPU's now appear to be managed properly by the 9.0 kernel. I'd recommend anyone experiencing this problem to go ahead with what I outlined above. Alternatively, if you're not comfortable with custom roms, you can install the last Android 7.1 build (ryu-n2g48c-factory-0bc0ee15.zip - guide here: https://mmikowski.github.io/pixelc-revert-nougat/).
Hope this helps.
I've a OnePlus 3 Device.. When I Play Pubg in Med Settings.. it Lags like hell and i turned to Low Preset Still The same any solutions???
There was same problem with me too...
1. Make sure upgrade to v0.4.0.
2. If problem still continues use Elementalx kernel and overclock cpus and also turn on GPU boost to high.
Though regardless to say play on Europe server?
I play with framerate set to HIGH and BALANCED and it runs smooth most of the time.....
Saurabhlondhe24 said:
There was same problem with me too...
1. Make sure upgrade to v0.4.0.
2. If problem still continues use Elementalx kernel and overclock cpus and also turn on GPU boost to high.
Though regardless to say play on Europe server?
I play with framerate set to HIGH and BALANCED and it runs smooth most of the time.....
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Thank you For Your Kind Response.. Which Rom Are You On?
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Will Try :good:
i'm on latest OOS beta with Derp kernel, no lag what so ever on PUBG , just played it for the 1st time last night, on HD and medium fps (and one mission on high), no lags what so evert, but here's heating normal and expected with this type of games, but didn't effect the game play.
it'll hit the battery though , i went from 92% to 20% in 70 mins of continues playing on high settings. also make sure if you're on OOS to add it to game do not disturb mode, it helps.
i do have same problem on open beta, ill try to flash costum kernel...hope they fix this on next update...
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I've a OnePlus 3 Device.. When I Play Pubg in Med Settings.. it Lags like hell and i turned to Low Preset Still The same any solutions???
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Sorry to say but it will lag in anyway
Coz it is powered by Snapdragon 820 which just sucks in gaming , not becoz of GPU (Andreno 530 is good enough) but becoz of low cores count and thermel throttle ?
And PUBG mostly depends on multicore performance of the processor, in which sd820 littrely sucks (820=450 in multicore performance)
Snapdragon 660 is much better choice for gaming it's much stable than 820/821
Someone said to me to use GFX Tool on play store and enable the vulkan and see the changes. He said it was lagging but after enable the vulkan it turns out pretty smooth after but pretty much drains the battery.
MFAR198 said:
Someone said to me to use GFX Tool on play store and enable the vulkan and see the changes. He said it was lagging but after enable the vulkan it turns out pretty smooth after but pretty much drains the battery.
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I second this, used GFX Tool with the following parameters:
PUBG M Version 0.6
Resolution: 1280x720
Style: Classic
Graphics : Balanced
FPS: 60fps
Vulkan : Enabled
Anti-Aliasing: Disabled
Running On DU v12.3
Kernel DU stock
Active battery drain after 33mins of use 9% and lags at all.
ya7hu said:
I second this, used GFX Tool with the following parameters:
PUBG M Version 0.6
Resolution: 1280x720
Style: Classic
Graphics : Balanced
FPS: 60fps
Vulkan : Enabled
Anti-Aliasing: Disabled
Running On DU v12.3
Kernel DU stock
Active battery drain after 33mins of use 9% and lags at all.
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I dont know, it was smooth here currently on Nougat Zenity RR. But I do also face the lag when I'm using Unofficial RR Luis and I even overclocked the cpu, but it was smooth on OOS with stock kernel and MSM Xtended so far before. That recommendation to enable vulkan was from someone I haven't test it yet since I dont face the lag right now. Sorry can't help much, I also did not understand much why.
GuiderNeedsGuide said:
Sorry to say but it will lag in anyway
Coz it is powered by Snapdragon 820 which just sucks in gaming , not becoz of GPU (Andreno 530 is good enough) but becoz of low cores count and thermel throttle
And PUBG mostly depends on multicore performance of the processor, in which sd820 littrely sucks (820=450 in multicore performance)
Snapdragon 660 is much better choice for gaming it's much stable than 820/821
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Not true , as mentioned on another post above, I also use the latest oos beta ROM, with derp kernel 4.4 , nonlags what so ever , not even a little ...
I've been playing pubg for a month now , and with the above setup I had no lags... I even use maple I/O sched , which by nature may cause some lag and despite that it doesn't.
onePlus stock kernel specially on beta may have issues from time to time, and a lot of cutom kernels for cutom ROMs are configured more toward battery life...
For stock rom use either derp or blu_spark, they will work out of the box without issues, Blu have more heating though on my experience.
For custom ROMs you'll need to ask the kernel dev what settings anss scheds to use ...I'd imagine flash kernel will be ok right out of the box but will not be as battery friendly as the others .
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Well if you are happy with 20-35fps performance, than trust me you don't really need a flagship, you will be satisfied even with Snapdragon 450 which can give similar performance to sd820 in PUBG lol [QUOTEuke7;76899133]Not true , as mentioned on another post above, I also use the latest oos beta ROM, with derp kernel 4.4 , nonlags what so ever , not even a little ...
I've been playing pubg for a month now , and with the above setup I had no lags... I even use maple I/O sched , which by nature may cause some lag and despite that it doesn't.
onePlus stock kernel specially on beta may have issues from time to time, and a lot of cutom kernels for cutom ROMs are configured more toward battery life...
For stock rom use either derp or blu_spark, they will work out of the box without issues, Blu have more heating though on my experience.
For custom ROMs you'll need to ask the kernel dev what settings anss scheds to use ...I'd imagine flash kernel will be ok right out of the box but will not be as battery friendly as the others .[/QUOTE]
Guys if you want to game dont do it on a mobile device. Let alone a cheap China device with high failure rates on hardware.
Could anyone suggest a ROM / Kernel that is tried and tested to not lag on OnePlus 3T? I am currently using a different phone just to play the game and I really wish to move back to my phone ... Any method that is tried and tested to function properly with no lags on the current PubG update would be really appreciated
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Could anyone suggest a ROM / Kernel that is tried and tested to not lag on OnePlus 3T? I am currently using a different phone just to play the game and I really wish to move back to my phone ... Any method that is tried and tested to function properly with no lags on the current PubG update would be really appreciated
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You will be hard pressed to find a combo that works. You will most likely need to build a rom made for it as most roms are not made for gaming which to be honest is a sad state on mobile device.
zelendel said:
You will be hard pressed to find a combo that works. You will most likely need to build a rom made for it as most roms are not made for gaming which to be honest is a sad state on mobile device.
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Try msm extended pie and aosp extended pie both with stock kernel runs pubg smooth with hd - high fps
Well i'm baffled with you guys, i ran it just fine, i even downclocked it to 1 & 1,5 Ghz (lil&big). My configs: Omnirom and the included kernel (holydragon) downclocked, display driver updated to V313 (look for adreno driver in mi mix forum) use rev15 as it is less glitchy and even has tangible score boost almost 6000 gain in antutu GPU section. And that's it, HD and High setting acquired, i even get extreme setting when i first install the driver, but somehow it disappears lol. If you want to run it even better, use old gfxtool to old pubg apk, run and then update the pubg, immediately uninstall the gfxtool to avoid ban by the new pubg detection for gfxtool. Sorry too long.
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Well i'm baffled with you guys, i ran it just fine, i even downclocked it to 1 & 1,5 Ghz (lil&big). My configs: Omnirom and the included kernel (holydragon) downclocked, display driver updated to V313 (look for adreno driver in mi mix forum) use rev15 as it is less glitchy and even has tangible score boost almost 6000 gain in antutu GPU section. And that's it, HD and High setting acquired, i even get extreme setting when i first install the driver, but somehow it disappears lol. If you want to run it even better, use old gfxtool to old pubg apk, run and then update the pubg, immediately uninstall the gfxtool to avoid ban by the new pubg detection for gfxtool. Sorry too long.
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Can you share the old apks?
Rizezky said:
Well i'm baffled with you guys, i ran it just fine, i even downclocked it to 1 & 1,5 Ghz (lil&big). My configs: Omnirom and the included kernel (holydragon) downclocked, display driver updated to V313 (look for adreno driver in mi mix forum) use rev15 as it is less glitchy and even has tangible score boost almost 6000 gain in antutu GPU section. And that's it, HD and High setting acquired, i even get extreme setting when i first install the driver, but somehow it disappears lol. If you want to run it even better, use old gfxtool to old pubg apk, run and then update the pubg, immediately uninstall the gfxtool to avoid ban by the new pubg detection for gfxtool. Sorry too long.
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Can you share the rev15 zip of those drivers? I went to that thread and all the dev has right now i rev22 or rev21.
Thermals, Kernel Managers and their affect on short and long term battery life.
As requested, by fellow LePro 3 owners, I created this thread for a discussion on the benefits of thermal management, using manual thermal settings, and sharing flashable thermals and user settings. To be clear I am not yet an expert on this subject, so I am learning along with everyone else. But, why not share the experience?
Of course we want our phones to last, while also pushing them to their limits, but in a safe and efficient manner. Recently our developers have shared their ideas on thermal management, and they have been gracious enough to allow us access to their own settings, that can be used across multiple builds. See the link below to download the first set of flashable thermal management options.
Recently, some of us have encountered shutdown issues, with some roms having battery stats reporting issues, unexpected shutdowns, and unrelated unrelated lockscreen issues. We users have found that often these troubled builds can be fixed by flashing a fix. Such as the thermals from a previous or other builds that did not have the same issue. Fortunately, it appears that we can use alternate perf and thermal management files that have not only offered a quick fix for some of these current issues, but also offers a longterm solution for using old, new, and future roms builds...collectively. :good:
The plan is to make this discussion much more extensive and simple
So consider this initial post to be an ever changing rough draft.
The end goal is to make it much easier for people to access and share their thermal management files or settings in one easily found central location, and hopefully for everyone to share their suggestions along the way
Helpful to Gamers who want safe power and speed.
Helpful to Non-Gamer's who want simply want stable performance, long battery life
Help everyone by helping us learn to optimize our phones to last for the longterm.
For me, no more repeating the same stuff over and over on various Rom threads, or private messages. No more having trouble digging through threads to find a recommended thermal or setting. So please participate, we can keep the OP updated whenever anything new comes along. Should I get access to something new I will add it to the Megadrive and make a post
Inventory
So far we have the thermals from Lineage, AEX, Balkan, AICP, EUI and in my view one the best is the latest by Jabashque. The idea of this post is to share the thermal settings so that they can be used on whichever ROM you want to try out.
Finally, you do not necessarily need to use these thermals unless you have an issue with general usage, heat or battery life. However, you will immediately notice the benefits.
Edit ( Updated Info)
Regarding kernels: Personally, I use BlackScreen 6.3, it has a long list of governors and I like options.
Currently the best thermal option is the Jabashque edit ( Thermal Fix 7 ) Get it Here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78717015&postcount=18
These thermals work!
Over the past 2 weeks, I have gone back and tried several old ROMs, and these thermal and profiles make those old Roms perform so much better! For example, the September 3rd JMXL version of DotOS.: Yes, Its outstanding with the Sergey thermal. BootLegger's is also much improved, and it was already pretty great as it was. The Miui ROMs, are significantly improved by far! etc.
Of course we have so many great Roms. Occasionally, we get a build that is experimental and it may have unexpected issues. We have seen over the past week that flashing an alternate thermal is a perfect way to save the installation without having to revert to an earlier build. I mentioned old Roms above, they also work on every single Pie Rom.
Here is My Mega Drive Link for all of Thermals that I have collected so far
https://mega.nz/#F!9EokAQTb!Au6cBnJaCJXZrUlaXSLjhg
Alternate Link with key
Link: https://mega.nz/#F!9EokAQTb
Key: Au6cBnJaCJXZrUlaXSLjhg
Jabasque's thermals are in the Jabashque folder. Version 1 and 2 :
Probably shouldn't result in any difference if not gaming.
"Most likely, it would only be noticeable if you're not throttled down to 1440/1900MHz and you're running something that's using 100% cpu" ( Jabashque)
What to use
If you are wanting long battery life and low temperatures use Sergey's thermal or JaBashque version 1
If you want stock EUI faster throttling but slightly higher temps use the ShivateJappedi EUI thermal.
If you want to leave your cores unchanged from the default setting with higher temp throttling, more full power access and yet still safe while use JaBashque 6 Its a rework of the EUI 30s thermals designed to work better on modern Pie Roms : See more information here: https://review.lineageos.org/c/LineageOS/android_device_leeco_zl1/+/238809
Soon, I will create a post in the reserved section below to deeply define the details and differences between these thermals. Because while they all have similarities, they are also very different from one another.
In addition, I plan to add various kernel manager settings for various uses : Gaming, Long Life etc.
Finally, even when moving to another Rom. kernel manager programs such as Ex Kernel Manager will allow you to import and use saved profiles. It seems that it is possible to save the best of each of these thermals by saving the profiles of each. We can share those settings! Then later you can manually choose within your kernel manager which settings you want to use by simply importing choosing a preferred profile.
I hope this clears up the confusion. As mentioned this is a work in progress that was requested by 3 people. This is just the beginning of this discussion that will help everyone understand how to use Kernel Managers and the add-on thermals patches. I need to do some further research to make it all worthwhile . For example, although I love the elementalX governor, I haven't researched it enough to explain why I think it's better. So I plan to find out specifically what it's actually doing vs what other governors do, and how does changing sample rates, and wake locks affect performance and battery life etc.
If there are any experts out there? Please chime in and contribute.
See Updated information from Jabashque, which explains the differences between patch 1 and patch 2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78670166&postcount=2
Installation
Dirty flash the patch that you want to use..thats it.
If you want to try a different patch, dirty flash the Rom, reflash Magisk and dirty flash the patch
You can manually adjust settings by going to /vendor/etc/thermal-engine.conf
Update from JaBashque Edit April 21 2019: ( I use ThermalFix7, its my personal favorite/ it is the best and the safest period.)
@tsongming
Hey, after seeing your thread about thermals, I felt I should write an explanation about how my v1 and v2 differ from stock EUI thermals that you could add to that forum post, since the one you have on there was me describing the difference between v1 and v2, not stock EUI: "JaBashque"
There are two different set of sensors that the original config monitors for the CPU:
the CPU temp sensors (tsens_tz_sensor{4,6,9,11}) and xo_therm_buf. The CPU temp sensors measure the temps of the cores themselves. xo_therm_buf measures what seems to be some sort of overall temperature, though I'm not sure what in particular. However, xo_therm_buf does correlate more directly with how hot your phone feels.
Original:
thermal-engine rapidly throttles your CPU down to 902MHz on the little cores and 825MHz on the big cores when any one of the cores hits 95C, and stops only when the hottest core drops back to 65C. When xo_therm_buf gets to 43C, thermal-engine slowly throttles all your cores to 902MHZ little and 825MHz big until xo_therm_buf drops back to 40C.
Patchset 1:
thermal-engine rapidly throttles your CPU down to 902MHz on the little cores and 825MHz on the big cores when any one of the cores hits 85C, and stops only when the hottest core drops back to 65C. When xo_therm_buf gets to 37C, thermal-engine throttles all your cores to 1440MHZ little and 1900MHz big until xo_therm_buf drops back to 34C. When xo_therm_buf gets to 43C, thermal-engine throttles all your cores to 1132MHZ little and 1363MHz big until xo_therm_buf drops back to 40C. When xo_therm_buf gets to 50C, thermal-engine throttles all your cores to 979MHZ little and 1132MHz big until xo_therm_buf drops back to 43C.
Patchset 2:
thermal-engine throttles your CPU down to 1516MHz on the little cores and 2054MHz on the big cores when any one of the cores hits 95C, and stops only when the hottest core drops back to 65C.
This change was made because I realized that the previous version still had a situation where the CPU performance can tank unpredictably. xo_therm_buf-related CPU throttling is same as Patchset 1.
Thanks to JaBashque for sharing his work! Patch-set 2 is my personal preference. Although the Sergey Perf + Combo is also very good.
@tsongming
Thank you very much for listen us and always give your help.
Rigth now I am on BaikalOS 28th December 2018, if I want to flash any Profile of those, what I should to do (Clean flash? This first, later that etc... and Wich of them I should ti flash for best battery, I do not play on movil)
I am very curious for test this...
I have x722, I do not play. I am now on aex 5.7 oreo. The most depends on the battery, so which zip to flash ? This is a great topic.
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@tsongming
Thank you very much for listen us and always give your help.
Rigth now I am on BaikalOS 28th December 2018, if I want to flash any Profile of those, what I should to do (Clean flash? This first, later that etc... and Wich of them I should ti flash for best battery, I do not play on movil)
I am very curious for test this...
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You can dirty flash these thermals.
Personally I like Sergey and Jabashque version 2 the best so far on Pie roms.
The Shivate patch works really well on Marshmallow, Nougat and Oreo.
The Sergey patch works really well on Oreo and Pie, I haven't tried it on Nougat Roms yet.
You can manually adjust settings by going to /vendor/etc/thermal-engine.conf and In this same folder ( vendor/etc) you can also make audio changes, and I am not talking about policies and Tasha.xml files, although you would make changes to those files too, if wanted. This will be something that we can discuss in more detail soon.
gsiwy said:
I have x722, I do not play. I am now on aex 5.7 oreo. The most depends on the battery, so which zip to flash ? This is a great topic.
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Either the Sergey or the JaBashque 2 with be perfect, depending on what you want.
Use Sergey if your goal is battery saving.
Use JaBashque 2 if you want better gaming performance.
@tsongming thank you for this useful thread. I just have one question. I noticed that sergey's thermal file you uploaded comes also with perf so do you know is it maybe EUI perf and if not is it possible to upload just sergey's thermal without perf? Thanks.
I'm using aex 6.2 and i play a lot of games, but i looking for something that gives the power to run the games and after that (of course after some time without using the cellphone to cooldown) use the phone without worry of him overheat with simple use like 39 or 37 ºC. Do you have something like that?
I have a x722
MnMchill said:
@tsongming thank you for this useful thread. I just have one question. I noticed that sergey's thermal file you uploaded comes also with perf so do you know is it maybe EUI perf and if not is it possible to upload just sergey's thermal without perf? Thanks.
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Sure, I can extract the perf, I will do that and add it to a separate folder so that there are two options.
Edit: Here is the Sergey thermal only
I removed the perf and added the additional key edit options from the Jabashque patch. So this a combo patch.
Use at your own risk
However, I have tested this and it works fine. I wanted to give the caveat that I am a Noob at this! But its okay. FYI: all I did was remove the perf, so now the perf will come from the rom and I added the Moshe key feature, which some Roms such as AICP includes anyway.
https://mega.nz/#F!ZVpXBQjC!PpXn1ZtLEHJb72Gbw7nWqg
Heitor Lima said:
I'm using aex 6.2 and i play a lot of games, but i looking for something that gives the power to run the games and after that (of course after some time without using the cellphone to cooldown) use the phone without worry of him overheat with simple use like 39 or 37 ºC. Do you have something like that?
I have a x722
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Use the Jabashque 2
See updated in depth info from JaBashque : here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78670166&postcount=2
So, thank you for your work!!One question,i am at the last AICP Pie,do you believe is better to flash one of these or stay with the settings of AICP?
Thanks in advance!
Don't work
I used to play pubg and the big stay on 1,4 ghz and little on 1,0 ghz
tsongming said:
Sure, I can extract the perf, I will do that and add it to a separate folder so that there are two options.
Edit: Here is the Sergey thermal only
I removed the perf and added the additional key edit options from the Jabashque patch. So this a combo patch.
Use at your own risk
However, I have tested this and it works fine. I wanted to give the caveat that I am a Noob at this! But its okay. FYI: all I did was remove the perf, so now the perf will come from the rom and I added the Moshe key feature, which some Roms such as AICP includes anyway.
https://mega.nz/#F!ZVpXBQjC!PpXn1ZtLEHJb72Gbw7nWqg
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Works good, thanks.
geo307cc said:
So, thank you for your work!!One question,i am at the last AICP Pie,do you believe is better to flash one of these or stay with the settings of AICP?
Thanks in advance!
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If you are not having any issues, then don't install any of these.
However, if you want to try it, keep a record of your existing performance, battery life, heat levels for battery and CPU (when idle) and compare that against using these thermals.
If you flash one of these thermals and don't like it. You can quickly return to your previous settings by dirty flashing your rom, or by restoring the system part of a nandroid backup.
Heitor Lima said:
I used to play pubg and the big stay on 1,4 ghz and little on 1,0 ghz
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So which one of the 5 thermals did you try? Some of them include perf
Understand that you still have to setup your kernel manager. If you are wanting to use it for Gaming use the JaBashque version 2 to and leave the cores on the highest setting.
Yes, it works. It works for me a and a lot of other people on Telegram
If you want low temperatures and long battery life underclock the cores at idle my battery hovers around 85 F and the CPU are around 100-105F
Just so you know you can access your thermal.conf file and edit it manually to increase your thermal limit in /vendor/etc/thermal-engine.conf
Next, save a copy of your existing current setup as a profile, so you can easy switch from one to another with ease and easily compare it to the changes of using an alternative file. You can tweak it to the settings that you are wanting...Just keep safety in mind or you could burn up your CPU.
UpDate!
@jabashque has spent time recently improving his thermals further, and released several new versions .
The latest and greatest is now version 6!
Get it here: https://mega.nz/#!pFoSRaQA!R068WV-YltbQAFzuc3aH72z_OPyrN2uBjgsux2h0dNY
If you like it, please thank him!
Anyone who is using the last build of Jabashque 6 . It has a small error with he tthermal.
Flash this zip file from my Mega drive.
https://mega.nz/#!UZwhAQwY!GDUYQX2Ewcj92jjhs2t-oYnVcUKSbu9WfaOyAJjaKzs
The file adds a GPU setting to the Thermal
Repair by Jabashque: https://mega.nz/#!UZwhAQwY!GDUYQX2Ewcj92jjhs2t-oYnVcUKSbu9WfaOyAJjaKzs
Reference : https://review.lineageos.org/c/LineageOS/android_device_leeco_zl1/+/239612
I want to install Bootleggers os 8.1 on x722 and I have a question: after installing romu and gapps and initial configuration I can flash BS5.1-r3 AND thermal.zip a magisk mantle? will thermal.zip not interfere with BS? Thank you.
gsiwy said:
I want to install Bootleggers os 8.1 on x722 and I have a question: after installing romu and gapps and initial configuration I can flash BS5.1-r3 AND thermal.zip a magisk mantle? will thermal.zip not interfere with BS? Thank you.
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Sorry I haven't been on XDA much recently, and never received the notification.
If you use Bootleggers, the stock kernel is fine. But blackScreen 6.3 will work fine and it gives you more options. You flash the thermal at anytime. I recommend the Thermal-fix7 which is Jabashque 6 that I edited to fix a typo. No there is no conflict
Hi,
I flashed stock android 10 image after it was released a few days ago and the battery life is GARBAGE. Any ideas on how to fix this? I know adaptive means it should get better after a few days, but I don't really see this.
Battery life for me is pretty horrible, I can't get 2 hours of screen time doing simple things like taking photos, reading the news and email and some book reading. I don't even play games, I would say processing of HDR photos is the most intense thing I've done. I updated on Tuesday and battery life has not improved.
I had the same terrible battery experience with android 10 stock until I changed kernels. Assuming you are rooted, you can install Ex Kernel Manager, then go to the ElementalX tab and click to check for update and it will give you the option to download and flash Elemental X v. 5.05 for pixel xl android 10. It will flash the new kernel for you and then ask if you would like to reboot. Once you reboot you can change governors and many kernel settings. Currently I am at 54% with over 3hrs screen on time and average about 15 hours per charge with 6 or more hours screen on time. This is at least double what I was getting on the stock kernel.
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I had the same terrible battery experience with android 10 stock until I changed kernels. Assuming you are rooted, you can install Ex Kernel Manager, then go to the ElementalX tab and click to check for update and it will give you the option to download and flash Elemental X v. 5.05 for pixel xl android 10. It will flash the new kernel for you and then ask if you would like to reboot. Once you reboot you can change governors and many kernel settings. Currently I am at 54% with over 3hrs screen on time and average about 15 hours per charge with 6 or more hours screen on time. This is at least double what I was getting on the stock kernel.
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Is there a free alternative to ex kernel manager?
@H0wdy
Smart pack kernel manager available on xda here it is also frequently updated not my work just so you know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smartpack-kernel-manager-t3854717/amp/
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@H0wdy
Smart pack kernel manager available on xda here it is also frequently updated not my work just so you know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smartpack-kernel-manager-t3854717/amp/
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I installed it and changed cpu governor to power saving. No difference.
H0wdy said:
I installed it and changed cpu governor to power saving. No difference.
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Actually, even if I do apply on boot, is resetting governor to sched. Hmm
I don't see a real battery difference switching to powersave, just a performance difference.
I didn't actually switch the kernel, though. That's with the included kernel.
The battery life really is awful. Any ideas?
Changed to Elemental.
Set governors to Elemental.
NO improvement in battery.
H0wdy said:
Changed to Elemental.
Set governors to Elemental.
NO improvement in battery.
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here are my settings on Elemental. *note under cpu, I have to manually disable perfd after every reboot as the setting doesn't stick but everything else where the apply on reboot is highlighted works automatically. Battery is noticibly better with perfd and core control disabled.
smoka206 said:
Battery life for me is pretty horrible, I can't get 2 hours of screen time doing simple things like taking photos, reading the news and email and some book reading. I don't even play games, I would say processing of HDR photos is the most intense thing I've done. I updated on Tuesday and battery life has not improved.
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That's awesome! but, does it have significant impact on performance compared to stock kernel? I'd like to balance out performance and battery life.
I wiped the phone and installed 10.
No improvement with battery.
Also, now I have the problem of my messaging and email apps don't update unless I manually open them. and sensor seems to be messed up to where if you tap twice on phone, you don't see clock, and picking up phone doesn't show notifications, despite these options being turned on. I know there is a bug on this.
For what it's worth, I was on the Q betas, and battery life was similar to what I was getting on pie. Then once the official update installed, battery went to garbage even after several days. I ended up downgrading to Oreo leaving the bootloader unlocked, but installing elemental x kernel so that I'd still pass safety net. I had heard before that Oreo had better battery life than pie.
Things improved after that, but I know that a downgrade like this won't be an option for most people.
Edit: also should mention that I've underclocked the CPU using the installer for the ex kernel which has also given me a slight boost in battery life. Don't really notice any performance difference for my usage.
where to dowload elemental 5.05 .img ? i can only get the .zip file but i have no way to flash it.
i have root
hfmls said:
where to dowload elemental 5.05 .img ? i can only get the .zip file but i have no way to flash it.
i have root
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I used ex kernel manager to flash it and then rebooted but it's a paid app. for a free app you could try flashify which is an app that can flash kernels and recoveries. I haven't used it in a long time to flash a kernel so I make no guarantees but it has worked well for me in the past.
How much did you underclock? I went back to 8.1 and battery life is much improved.
Stock seems fine to me 6hr sot on lte off charger for 17 hr. But did replace battery a year ago
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How much did you underclock? I went back to 8.1 and battery life is much improved.
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Hey, I assume you're asking me. I underclocked to 1440 for the small cores (down from 1593), and 1900 for the big cores (down from stock 2150). The aroma installer has a few values to choose from, so you can try experimenting a bit. The values I used represent about a 10% drop from stock speeds.
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Hey, I assume you're asking me. I underclocked to 1440 for the small cores (down from 1593), and 1900 for the big cores (down from stock 2150). The aroma installer has a few values to choose from, so you can try experimenting a bit. The values I used represent about a 10% drop from stock speeds.
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Yes I was asking you, sorry for some reason it didn't reply to your comment. Thank you, I'm going to experiment and see how it goes. Are you doing anything else to improve battery life?
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Yes I was asking you, sorry for some reason it didn't reply to your comment. Thank you, I'm going to experiment and see how it goes. Are you doing anything else to improve battery life?
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The biggest battery drain I have is keeping WiFi on. So I created some tasker profiles to turn off WiFi 2 minutes after the screen goes off, and back on when the screen goes on. It also only turns off if it's not plugged in. Still not perfect, but works well enough for me.
Installed it about an hour ago (UK) and in general the phone seems a noticeably zippier for browsing and opening apps etc.
I am not a tech head, and the update is small, only 13 ish megabytes, but feels like the sluggishness I had been experiencing the last six months has gone somewhat. I had really set my mind and wallet on getting a Pixel 4a, but may stick with this a bit longer if the sluggishness has improved.
Wonder if others are finding the same ?
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Installed it about an hour ago (UK) and in general the phone seems a noticeably zippier for browsing and opening apps etc.
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You rebooted to install it and that is known to temporarily solve the "ram issues" that android 10 has on this phone.
It's not the update.
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You rebooted to install it and that is known to temporarily solve the "ram issues" that android 10 has on this phone.
It's not the update.
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Ohh, it is the update. This one really made the phone feel snappier, and visibly improved performance. Usually it slugs down to a crawl while I'm testing to see if it's still usable after the update, and even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine, no hogs, no slow downs, minimal stuttering while heavy multi-tasking.
For example, on 11.0.7, go to Chrome, access fast.com (internet speed test) - it downloads and uploads a test file, so intensive i/o memory usage, and try closing the tab and chrome while still downloading... it's slow, it stutters a lot, it occasionally freezes the device, that doesn't happen anymore in august update. Also the speed limitation I was talking about in my review of 11.0.9 is now gone.
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Ohh, it is the update. This one really made the phone feel snappier, and visibly improved performance. Usually it slugs down to a crawl while I'm testing to see if it's still usable after the update, and even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine, no hogs, no slow downs, minimal stuttering while heavy multi-tasking.
For example, on 11.0.7, go to Chrome, access fast.com (internet speed test) - it downloads and uploads a test file, so intensive i/o memory usage, and try closing the tab and chrome while still downloading... it's slow, it stutters a lot, it occasionally freezes the device, that doesn't happen anymore in august update. Also the speed limitation I was talking about in my review of 11.0.9 is now gone.
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Well I think these ss weren't automated replies after all.
TeoXSD said:
even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine
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Apparently I rebooted this morning so I only have 16 hours of uptime. But I have been rebooting weekly so I feel it is still a bit early to be celebrating.
That said, I did just have XDA stay in memory while I downloaded podcasts, updated apps and opened some pages in both Firefox beta and Firefox (opening pages to copy urls over without sync).
Maybe it was a build.prop tweak. That would be small...
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Apparently I rebooted this morning so I only have 16 hours of uptime. But I have been rebooting weekly so I feel it is still a bit early to be celebrating.
That said, I did just have XDA stay in memory while I downloaded podcasts, updated apps and opened some pages in both Firefox beta and Firefox (opening pages to copy urls over without sync).
Maybe it was a build.prop tweak. That would be small...
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Actually what I want to say is I am using l speed and I have changed the RAM management profile to multitasking and that fixes my issue and basically it is it editing the build prop my question is if Xiaomi did the same thing and fix the issue isn't it good I mean I can do it with root but all they did was changed this thing which they could have done a long time ago but do keep in mind whenever I use this profile my battery drains a bit faster not like a lot faster only a little bit faster.
Aadil Gillani said:
I am using l speed and I have changed the RAM management profile to multitasking and that fixes my issue and basically it is it editing the build prop my question is if Xiaomi did the same thing and fix the issue isn't it good
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I found lspeed and friends to extend the time I could run before reboot, not fix the problem.
But now I'm curious so I'm gonna diff the partitions to find out what they changed.
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I found lspeed and friends to extend the time I could run before reboot, not fix the problem.
But now I'm curious so I'm gonna diff the partitions to find out what they changed.
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Please do tell what they changed
I'm ... not seeing anything obvious
build.prop changed, but it's just timestamps and versions (ie. normal "make a release" stuff)
only boot, system and vendor were modified
I've attached the diff report (not changes, just modified files), minus a large number of .odex files.
Looks like some media lib bugs got fixed.
I dunno... also, I tried to run the diff on my phone and killed it so my uptime was reset again (finished the comparison on my computer, after converting and mounting the images).
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Ohh, it is the update. This one really made the phone feel snappier, and visibly improved performance. Usually it slugs down to a crawl while I'm testing to see if it's still usable after the update, and even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine, no hogs, no slow downs, minimal stuttering while heavy multi-tasking.
For example, on 11.0.7, go to Chrome, access fast.com (internet speed test) - it downloads and uploads a test file, so intensive i/o memory usage, and try closing the tab and chrome while still downloading... it's slow, it stutters a lot, it occasionally freezes the device, that doesn't happen anymore in august update. Also the speed limitation I was talking about in my review of 11.0.9 is now gone.
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I have downgraded to android 8.1 version 9.6.11.0
Tried that thing with fast.com no stutter nothing! I would suggest everybody who is tired with xiaomi updates on this phone to downgrade to android 8.1 like i did and it will remind the reason why you purchased this phone in the first place! Its super fast, super responsive, the statusbar icons dont take to much space, everything is working and games will be in ram even if you minimize at morning and reopen at midnight! I thought i would change my phone because it was useless and now it is faster than i ever remembered!
Nearly 4 days of uptime and my phone is once again killing apps as soon as I leave them.
Well nearly been a week now since the update, and definitely feels to me.that things have improved at lot in general use.
Not as good as it was brand new, but nowhere near as bad as it was getting the previous few months, and very usable.
Battery life seems to have gotten back to where it was before too.