Stock Oreo - CPU not scaling - Pixel C Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This morning my Pixel C felt slow and sluggish.
Rebooted and removed recently installed apps but no difference.
Installed a CPU monitoring app and see that the CPU stays at 204Mhz even under load.
Any ideas before I try a full wipe?

Full reset seems to have fixed though notice cpu maxes at 1326
This right?

I'm not sure most CPU monitors know what to do with the X1, I know CPU-Z doesn't recognize it beyond a general "Nvidia Tegra" chip. What app are you using?

I switched from AOSP for acbit but yesterday had the same issue. Tablet felt slow and sluggish.
CPU monitor app showed CPU not scaling.
Went back to stock Oreo and still "feels" slow.
Geekbench4 says single core 926 and multi 2561
This is wrong?

My Pixel C performance is strange still the OREO update. I know this going to sound weird but when in splitscreen, the app on the left in landscape or on the top in portrait is lagging a lot. Scrolling, page swiping, etc.. takes a distinct longer time than expected. The app in the other half of the screen is acting normally.
Could this be related to the same issue?
With the pixel C now discontinued, Google is unlikely to fix a bug, especially if nobody reports it.. Bit of a worry, what to do?

I'm facing this issue as well. Already wiped cache and did factory reset, with no results.
It's now a very fancy digital picture frame.

There is no such problem. I used the first available monitoring program (cpufloat) and the CPU frequency change is shown adequately.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waterdaaan.cpufloat

Vartom said:
There is no such problem. I used the first available monitoring program (cpufloat) and the CPU frequency change is shown adequately.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.waterdaaan.cpufloat
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Thanks - in that case, the issue is less obvious to spot but I have definitely noted a lag in split screen mode refreshing the app on the left (yes, I know how strange it sounds..).
In addition, there have been quite a few report of the new January patch release affecting Pixel (phones) users. I can't help thinking our Pixel C issue with the last update and these new issues are too much of a coincidence..
I am hoping Jan patch might fix my Pixel C issue...
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laurentbon said:
Thanks - in that case, the issue is less obvious to spot but I have definitely noted a lag in split screen mode refreshing the app on the left (yes, I know how strange it sounds..).
In addition, there have been quite a few report of the new January patch release affecting Pixel (phones) users. I can't help thinking our Pixel C issue with the last update and these new issues are too much of a coincidence..
I am hoping Jan patch might fix my Pixel C issue...
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At the moment I'm using the kernel I've modified, and I have no problem with scrolling on the left side of the screen in split screen mode.
you can try it.

Install Kernel Auditor and deselect CPU Multi-core power saving option in CPU tab, that was on for some reason.

MrPhilo said:
Install Kernel Auditor and deselect CPU Multi-core power saving option in CPU tab, that was on for some reason.
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For what? if the frequency control and so works normally

Just updated January-ota and nothing has been solved... What can we do to make google solve it. The bug with the navbar continues and the split-screen is impossible to use
I started a thread when I noticed this bugs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/bugs-android-8-1-t3718156

AlfreGarcia98 said:
Just updated January-ota and nothing has been solved... What can we do to make google solve it. The bug with the navbar continues and the split-screen is impossible to use
I started a thread when I noticed this bugs
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/help/bugs-android-8-1-t3718156
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https://issuetracker.google.com/issues?q=componentid:190923+ Click "Create Issue" Report the bugs in detail how to replicate etc Someone from the dev team should get back to you

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https://issuetracker.google.com/issues?q=componentid:190923+ Click "Create Issue" Report the bugs in detail how to replicate etc Someone from the dev team should get back to you
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I dont know why, but the blue buttons are unclickable for me, so I cant create the issue.

Bringing back from dead.
So if you use Kernel Auditor to turn off some of the cores when this is occurring, the clock speed goes up for the primary core. It's as if they set a total limit, then divide by total core count. When battery charge is above 67%, you get the full max speed. No reboot or anything, just charge it up and you unlock the speed again. I suspect the Oreo kernels have bad throttling algorithm for this CPU.

My Pixel C was lagging quite bad when the battery fell below 67% using stock 8.1 (locked bootloader, everything untouched). I tried reflashing the factory images, but the problem stuck around. I rooted (magisk 18.1) and installed Kernel Adiutor. The problem was obvious, the CPU would heavily throttle (under 67% battery) depending on the amount of core active (with 4 cores, they would all run at ~200 mhz, with 2 cores, about 700 mhz and with 1 core about 1100 mhz). It wasn't so terribly laggy with 1 core running at 1100 mhz, but it was still pretty slow.
To try and troubleshoot the problem I then installed LineageOS 15.1 and followmsi's kernel (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...p-flashable-monthly-update-zip-pixel-t3375591). To my surprise the problem remained, despite the custom ROM and custom kernel. I think there is something wrong with the 8.1 oreo kernel and the Pixel C (see google forum post here: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/x7izNIUIHeI/VO4n9l_DCAAJ ). So I tried a second solution. This time I did the following:
1. Flashed TWRP: twrp-3.2.3-0-dragon.img
2. Flashed in TWRP: Followmsi's unoffical lineageOS 16.0: lineage-16.0-20190206-UNOFFICIAL-dragon.zip
3. Flashed in TWRP: (same session, before booting into LineageOS): OpenGAPPS Arm64 Pico package: open_gapps-arm64-9.0-pico-20190302.zip (m
4. Flashed in TWRP: (same session, before booting into LineageOS): Followmsi's Android 9 custom kernel: tegra-3.18_kernel_pie_dragon_v190205_unicorn-xceed-followmsi.zip
And voila, back to full speed. In fact the tablet seems to run better than ever. After some testing I installed Magisk 18.1 (for root and to pass safetynet), and everything is running great. The CPU's now appear to be managed properly by the 9.0 kernel. I'd recommend anyone experiencing this problem to go ahead with what I outlined above. Alternatively, if you're not comfortable with custom roms, you can install the last Android 7.1 build (ryu-n2g48c-factory-0bc0ee15.zip - guide here: https://mmikowski.github.io/pixelc-revert-nougat/).
Hope this helps.

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Governor issue (??)

Hi!
I noticed that in my Tab Pro 8.4 right after turning it on, when I'm not doing anything and just staring at the monitor it let only one core on clocked at 300MHz (using dashclock CPU information extension). So far so good.
The problem is that after some time, in the same context (doing nothing staring at the homescreen) it let two or four cores on clocked at 1497, so I have to reboot in order to save battery.
Any ideas why this is happenening? Does that happen to you?
P.S.: Battery saving settings turned on
It's mpdecision bug - needs root to fix
This issue should be affecting all stock ROM users of TAB Pro 8.4.
I noticed it a while ago and recently had some free time. The issue was narrowed down to Samsung's buggy mpdecision binary in /system/bin and you need root access to fix it. There are two ways to do it (you'll need terminal and file manager with root access rights):
1. Open terminal, type "su" and then "stop mpdecision". Open Root Explorer, navigate to /system/bin and rename "mpdecision" file to something like "00mpdecision". Reboot. All cores will be running at 300 mhz when idle and tablet will feel noticeably smoother and faster. I did not see any serious impact on battery while running this way for 2 weeks already.
2. Download attached mpdecision file from CM11 modrianwifi ROM, unrar it and transfer it to your tablet. Open terminal, type "su" and then "stop mpdecision". Open Root Explorer, navigate to /system/bin and rename "mpdecision" file to something like "00mpdecision". Copy new mpdecision file into /system/bin, change ownership to root:root and access rights to rwxr-xr-x.
Reboot. The issue will be resolved for good and unused cores will be shutdown properly. Tablet will feel the same way it was before file replacement.
Hope it helped.
favero_ said:
Hi!
I noticed that in my Tab Pro 8.4 right after turning it on, when I'm not doing anything and just staring at the monitor it let only one core on clocked at 300MHz (using dashclock CPU information extension). So far so good.
The problem is that after some time, in the same context (doing nothing staring at the homescreen) it let two or four cores on clocked at 1497, so I have to reboot in order to save battery.
Any ideas why this is happenening? Does that happen to you?
P.S.: Battery saving settings turned on
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Hm I'm not seeing this issue on my tablet running the NK1 firmware, though I think I do remember it happening on the AND3 Firmware (saw it under Android Tuner) , I wonder if it was fixed under NK1, I'm curious too - do you know a easy way to reproduce it?
Here is a screenshot of CPU-Z, my tablet has been running for at least 1 day without a reboot, and had some 3D games run on it etc, CPU cores always seem to fallback to offline and 300mhz under my test
On a side note:
I don't run the Samsung Touch Wiz Launcher I am using "TSF Shell" as my Launcher, and have disabled some Samsung apps like "My Magazine" and a few Knox things that run in the background. also I don't use too many widgets since I found out they can hog CPU esp on poorly written apps. ,
mpdecision
I saw this issue on NA1, ND3, NG1 and NK1 firmware. Initially I thought it was fixed in NK1, but it came back in 3 days after last reboot. I'm running heavily de-bloated rooted stock f/w (Knox is at 0x0).
As for reproduction - I was suspecting Flipboard, but the issue came back after its uninstall as well. Seems to be uptime-related. 1 day uptime is not enough for NK1 - please check after 2 more days.
I'm running TouchWiz, but used "MyAndroidTools" to disable several services and startups for few remaining stock widgets and apps. Now I'm totally happy with my Tab Pro - best tablet I've ever had.
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Hm I'm not seeing this issue on my tablet running the NK1 firmware, though I think I do remember it happening on the AND3 Firmware (saw it under Android Tuner) , I wonder if it was fixed under NK1, I'm curious too - do you know a easy way to reproduce it?
Here is a screenshot of CPU-Z, my tablet has been running for at least 1 day without a reboot, and had some 3D games run on it etc, CPU cores always seem to fallback to offline and 300mhz under my test
On a side note:
I don't run the Samsung Touch Wiz Launcher I am using "TSF Shell" as my Launcher, and have disabled some Samsung apps like "My Magazine" and a few Knox things that run in the background. also I don't use too many widgets since I found out they can hog CPU esp on poorly written apps. ,
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NetFluke said:
This issue should be affecting all stock ROM users of TAB Pro 8.4.
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Thank you! I've replaced my /system/bin/mpdecision file with yours and so far the tablet is working properly.
I'll know in a few days if it sticks. But, I definitely had this problem with the governor with T320XAR1ANK1. FYI, for what ever it's worth, I've noticed this governor is slightly slower to ramp up. I don't really care, as the tablet is still super responsive, but some may also notice that Antutu and CF-Bench scores are slightly lower with this governor.
Yeah I can confirm its still present in K1, I tried to limit it down to a few things that could be causing it but have been unsuccessful sine it occurs at random it seems
but my thinking its either something to do with
1. video decoding (I watched a few videos) .
2. charging the tablet (I noticed on my ampere cable it was drawing 0~70 - 120 mA idle )- but this could be because cpu was already drawing more power then needed, usually it's 0 ~ with an occasional 30 mA when plugged in with screen off.
3. possibly game / 3d
...anyways I switched the mpdecision file and it seems to work fine now, except for a slower rampup speed like the others said - not really a big deal i'm sure this will help battery life too.
favero_ said:
Hi!
I noticed that in my Tab Pro 8.4 right after turning it on, when I'm not doing anything and just staring at the monitor it let only one core on clocked at 300MHz (using dashclock CPU information extension). So far so good.
The problem is that after some time, in the same context (doing nothing staring at the homescreen) it let two or four cores on clocked at 1497, so I have to reboot in order to save battery.
Any ideas why this is happenening? Does that happen to you?
P.S.: Battery saving settings turned on
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WOW! Finally someone on this forum other than me noticed this issue
I think I posted about this issue in September or so, and nobody else here said they noticed anything. Then I stopped checking this forum regularly... I'm glad to see others have now noticed this problem and have even figured out the root cause too!

[Q] Lollipop, The Aggressive App Killer

Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
Djalaal said:
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
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Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
erk1725 said:
Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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Perhaps you can noobify that a bit, lol. I had to google almost everything you mentioned. As I understand it, this Synapse allows you to tweak the kernel? And this KSM settings can improve this RAM issue? Care to elaborate? And what is laptop mode?
I've read about adjusting the LMK values to calm LP down a little. Any idea though why this was so necessary in LP, but not in KK? Is stock LP 'naturally' more RAM hungry than KK?
Djalaal said:
Perhaps you can noobify that a bit, lol. I had to google almost everything you mentioned. As I understand it, this Synapse allows you to tweak the kernel? And this KSM settings can improve this RAM issue? Care to elaborate? And what is laptop mode?
I've read about adjusting the LMK values to calm LP down a little. Any idea though why this was so necessary in LP, but not in KK? Is stock LP 'naturally' more RAM hungry than KK?
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I can try to elaborate little bit, as Ive been flashing things and researching xda a lot, but I am still noob in how/why things are the way they are. From what I gather lollipop just handles memory differently then kk did. I think that is some of the reason as to why the "recent apps" persist through reboots now. Remember, our device was not really supposed to run kk and certainly not meant to run lollipop. The developers here are without a doubt amazing in what they know and what they do for us users. A new kernel and driver was necessary to run lollipop on the aging gnex. Now, some of the issues we are experiencing is a google issue and will only seem to get fixed when they get around to it. I know my nexus 7 (old) has some memory issues and lag and redraws from time to time....not as much as I noticed with my gnex before the changes were made I stated in the above post. I recently helped my friend root and upgrade his oneplus one to lollipop and he has the same issues we all have, maybe not as bad, but they are noticeable
A lot of the questions you have, have been discussed recently in bsmitty83 kernel thread, since I asked them. There are links there as to what KSM and laptop mode are and what they do. KSM-kernel same page merging helps with RAM and I believe laptop mode helps to conserve power. A lot of these things are geared at devices with low ram like the aging gnex, but the developers have done a great job at making lollipop a daily driver. Most users I think use trickstermod from playstore to tune kernel settings, and that is ok, however, you must purchase the paid version to tweak low memory settings, which I did. However, synapse, also found on playstore can also be used to tweak kernel settings, but the kernel has to contain UCI support for the synapse app to work. Synapse has more settings available to tweak than trickster does, like KSM and laptop mode, which have helped me very much. The only kernel I'm aware of that has UCI support for synapse is bsmitty83 Full_Auto R10, because osmosis made it work
Hopefully this was rather accurate and helpful and not convoluted! ha.....im sure some more knowledgeable people will come and correct anything I said that may be incorrect, but in the meantime, read through the R10 kernel thread and see what you come up with
What ROM and kernel are you currently using?
Thank you
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The only kernel I'm aware of that has UCI support for synapse is bsmitty83 Full_Auto R10, because osmosis made it work.
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What ROM and kernel are you currently using?
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I'm currently using AOSP rom (by freshgimmi) and the Full Auto R10 you mentioned. I'll try injecting the new ramdisk now and see how it goes.
I noticed this issue as well for the first several days . However once I installed the new bootanimation from arter97 the issue doesn't occur anymore. Not sure if it's related but all I did was mount /system as rw and copied into the new lollipop boot animation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
Djalaal said:
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
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SpideyTheMan said:
I noticed this issue as well for the first several days . However once I installed the new bootanimation from arter97 the issue doesn't occur anymore. Not sure if it's related but all I did was mount /system as rw and copied into the new lollipop boot animation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
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I know about this issue. It is a memory leak during boot. It is a good catch, though all you're changing is the bootanimation.zip. AFAIK, it should not affect your system's performance after boot, once your phone is up and running. My issue is a different thing entirely. I never got bootloops (that is, when not messing around with xposed).
Okay, you're right. As a test last night I switched from FML 5.0.2 to LiquidSmooth's LP ROM and I'm not seeing any aggressive app kills in LiquidSmooth.
Djalaal said:
I know about this issue. It is a memory leak during boot. It is a good catch, though all you're changing is the bootanimation.zip. AFAIK, it should not affect your system's performance after boot, once your phone is up and running. My issue is a different thing entirely. I never got bootloops (that is, when not messing around with xposed).
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erk1725 said:
Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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I have got synapse up and running. I AM wondering though, what LMK settings are you using? Cause the neph settings I know of tell me to set empty app to 370, but synapse only allows max 320... If you're following different settings, could you link the post for me?
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I have got synapse up and running. I AM wondering though, what LMK settings are you using? Cause the neph settings I know of tell me to set empty app to 370, but synapse only allows max 320... If you're following different settings, could you link the post for me?
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Glad you got everything up and running.....Im using Neph's settings for LMK, and your correct the empty app only goes up to 320 in synapse. There was a post somewhere where Neph said he was still tweaking his LMK values and I believe he mentioned about lower empty app to 330 or something, so I just set it to 320 in synapse and call it a day

Thermanger Update and Myths/Fiction about Custom Roms Overheating vs Stock

Here is updated Thermanager, which could be flashed in recovery. I have made some changes after I played Asphalt game for about one hour. With this update, on performance governor the temperature never went higher than 58. And we are talking 1 hour straight. I doubt you can have that on stock. What was interesting that performance governor produced less heat than interactive, which supports my claim that when cpu jumps frequencies, it creates additional overhead.
Now, regarding myths and fiction about stock rom not overheating. There are some dudes on this forum who complain that their Z1 overheats to 70+ on custom roms when they play their beloved games; on stock, they say, there is no overheating.
Here is a short answer. You, guys, don't know what you are talking about.
Custom roms (and custom kernels) give you tools that are not available in stock. You just have to learn how to read/use them. Here is one example: some roms allow you to have internal cpu temperature on screen. Now that you have it, you watch. When it hits 70, you panic, but if you touch the back door, it will be barely warm. So, when you are on stock and without temperature reading, you think your phone is not overheating, while it can still have 65-70.
I used a modified version of M5 kernel compiled with GCC 5.2.1 Ubertc; CPU at 2457; performance governor, inteliplug balance with touch boost disabled; GPU overclocked to 600 with msm-adreno-tz idle wait 30 and workload 3; swapiness 10; enthropy 1024 read/write. That was on DU rom, but I bet the result would be the same on Jaguar and some other custom roms.
lol, that dude is Me, and I will try this, in the stock rom I can see an process running as overheat manager or something, I think it might have to do something with it. I'm sure that my device got heated very much, I didn't meant to offense but you seems to got it wrong. btw I will try this. I use Jaguar atm.
Thanks
I don't think that my phone won't reach 60 C on stock, but I like watching YouTube, so I can see how fast it warms. (I have xposed module that shows me cpu temp even on stock). And as much as I can say my phone warms faster on custom roms than on stock. No matter what governor I use.
Also all animations (like status bar showing) are kind of laggy on custom roms. I don't know it it got better in past 2 months, but last time I used custom rom my phone reached 50C even only with chrome.
Interesting thing is that this all (including animations) is not present on 3.10 kernel, but there are no usable roms at the moment with 3.10 kernel, so I have to use stock.
SuperLamic said:
I don't think that my phone won't reach 60 C on stock, but I like watching YouTube, so I can see how fast it warms. (I have xposed module that shows me cpu temp even on stock). And as much as I can say my phone warms faster on custom roms than on stock. No matter what governor I use.
Also all animations (like status bar showing) are kind of laggy on custom roms. I don't know it it got better in past 2 months, but last time I used custom rom my phone reached 50C even only with chrome.
Interesting thing is that this all (including animations) is not present on 3.10 kernel, but there are no usable roms at the moment with 3.10 kernel, so I have to use stock.
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So, what's the temperature your xposed module shows on stock under stress?
optimumpro said:
So, what's the temperature your xposed module shows on stock under stress?
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Usually after 20-30 minutes of YouTube it's around 53-54°C
SuperLamic said:
Usually after 20-30 minutes of YouTube it's around 53-54°C
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Which browser or is it a youtube app? I have similar temps on Firefox and about 44-48 when using Chromium (not chrome).
ScatteredHell said:
lol, that dude is Me, and I will try this, in the stock rom I can see an process running as overheat manager or something, I think it might have to do something with it. I'm sure that my device got heated very much, I didn't meant to offense but you seems to got it wrong. btw I will try this. I use Jaguar atm.
Thanks
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Overheat manager: whatever it is, all it does is throttling and thermanager does the same on custom roms. So, the trick is to throttle enough without you noticing any lags...
optimumpro said:
Which browser or is it a youtube app? I have similar temps on Firefox and about 44-48 when using Chromium (not chrome).
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It's a YouTube app. Really? It's weird, maybe I'll try, but I can see the difference on battery time when I come home from school - on stock I have ~70% and on custom roms I have ~50. Anyway I'll try and report after few days.
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
SuperLamic said:
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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OK. Nice to hear that about battery life and overheating. With regard to lagging: it is not cpu, but rather animations. Either disable them completely in developer options or in DU you can go to tweaks and pick and choose whatever animation you want. I just disable all animations and have absolutely no lag.
SuperLamic said:
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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Oddly enough, I find custom ROMs hae smoother animations than stock, in my phone. But I don't have good battery life when compared to stock..

Touch screen randomly stops functioning

I've been facing non responsive screen with my OnePlus 5T. The screen touch stops responding and only volume keys and power button are responsive.
Sometimes a reboot fixes the trouble but other times I have to dirty flash the stock Oxygen OS 10.0.0 zip file in TWRP recovery using OTG and mouse, to bring back the touch function to normal.
What should I do to permanently solve this trouble?
This has been a frequent problem as posted by many users here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/help/touch-screen-5t-randomly-stops-t3888017
Well, this problem is 100% a hardware one and it is caused by the fluid of the screen digitizer. One possible cause (apart from manufacturing flaw) is the prolonged heat that is encapsulated inside the phone. That's why most people with thick protective cases and protective plastic screen film had the issue appear as soon as 4 months of usage.
You can easily prove my theory: the next time it happens again leave the phone in the fridge (not freezer) for around 10 minutes, without restarting or doing anything to it. Then see by yourself if your touchscreen has come back to normal.
The most permanent solution is to replace the AMOLED screen and use a case that is as thin as possible. Other people had success by flashing a different custom kernel (probably one that lowered the Snapdragon's power consumption) but even then some reported that it reappeared after a few months. But I think that the screen's digitzer fluid has been permanently damaged by the heat over the years of use.
So to sum up:
1. Change screen for a new one
2. Use the thinnest possible case for the phone
3. (my recommendation) Flash a slightly underclocked/undervolted kernel alongside a stock-android based custom ROM
The third step is just a precaution to prevent it from happening again.
Hope I helped to clarify the issue
BlackRazor97 said:
Well, this problem is 100% a hardware one and it is caused by the fluid of the screen digitizer. One possible cause (apart from manufacturing flaw) is the prolonged heat that is encapsulated inside the phone. That's why most people with thick protective cases and protective plastic screen film had the issue appear as soon as 4 months of usage.
You can easily prove my theory: the next time it happens again leave the phone in the fridge (not freezer) for around 10 minutes, without restarting or doing anything to it. Then see by yourself if your touchscreen has come back to normal.
The most permanent solution is to replace the AMOLED screen and use a case that is as thin as possible. Other people had success by flashing a different custom kernel (probably one that lowered the Snapdragon's power consumption) but even then some reported that it reappeared after a few months. But I think that the screen's digitzer fluid has been permanently damaged by the heat over the years of use.
So to sum up:
1. Change screen for a new one
2. Use the thinnest possible case for the phone
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Thanks for replying @BlackRazor97. Few minutes ago, I faced this trouble again.
My screen froze and I rebooted once. The screen wasn't responding. I gave a second reboot. It started functioning again. While it was booting, I came here and went through your post. I just went through your post. Getting the screen replaced is probably going to be an expensive affair. I would rather buy a new phone but still want to continue with this one without getting any hardware replaced.
I'll surely try the fridge trick the next time it happens.
BlackRazor97 said:
3. (my recommendation) Flash a slightly underclocked/undervolted kernel alongside a stock-android based custom ROM
The third step is just a precaution to prevent it from happening again.
Hope I helped to clarify the issue
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I have never done underclocking/undervolting before. Wouldn't it make the phone slow? Can you please suggest any reliable slightly underclocked/undervolted kernel for stock oxygen os 10.0.0 as that's the one I'm currently on. Flashing a new ROM, restoring my apps will take a long time.
archz2 said:
I have never done underclocking/undervolting before. Wouldn't it make the phone slow? Can you please suggest any reliable slightly underclocked/undervolted kernel for stock oxygen os 10.0.0 as that's the one I'm currently on. Flashing a new ROM, restoring my apps will take a long time.
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I have only used FrancoKernel myself but since it's not available for Android 10, I recommend you to flash blu_spark r209 stable kernel for Android 10. It should work fine for stock Android 10 OOS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/oneplus-5--5t-cross-device-development/kernel-t3651933
And then by using the FKM (Franko Kernel Manager) under "battery tips" you can underclock the CPU. You don't need to underclock it too much; set it to 2Ghz (instead of 2.45Ghz) for the big cluster and 1.2Ghz for the little cluster. You will see no big difference in performance and your battery life will improve too !
Always do a backup of your stock kernel, just in case something happens.
Please let me know if it helped resolve your issue.
BlackRazor97 said:
I have only used FrancoKernel myself but since it's not available for Android 10, I recommend you to flash blu_spark r209 stable kernel for Android 10. It should work fine for stock Android 10 OOS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/oneplus-5--5t-cross-device-development/kernel-t3651933
And then by using the FKM (Franko Kernel Manager) under "battery tips" you can underclock the CPU. You don't need to underclock it too much; set it to 2Ghz (instead of 2.45Ghz) for the big cluster and 1.2Ghz for the little cluster. You will see no big difference in performance and your battery life will improve too !
Always do a backup of your stock kernel, just in case something happens.
Please let me know if it helped resolve your issue.
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I'm quite frustrated now. I'll try flashing the blu spark and do settings with Franco Kernel Manager.
Anyway, my experience with the refrigerator trick today.
First time it worked. The other time when screen issue came up, I rebooted my phone twice, hoping to solve the problem, but it didn't happen. Then I put it in the fridge. After ten minutes, I took it out the screen wasn't responding. I rebooted it. The screen started working.
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There's no battery tips tab.
I found these settings under the CPU tab of Franco Kernel Manager. Please see the screenshot attached. I should input the values suggested by you in maximum CPU frequencies options and let the minimum cpu frequencies remain with the default values and turn the CPU governor on.
Right?
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There's no battery tips tab.
I found these settings under the CPU tab of Franco Kernel Manager. Please see the screenshot attached. I should input the values suggested by you in maximum CPU frequencies options and let the minimum cpu frequencies remain with the default values and turn the CPU governor on.
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Yes exactly. Let the minimums as it is and lower the maximum frequencies. FKM received a big overhaul update in version 4.0, which apparently I haven't used. The menus are different but the functionality must be the same. Also don't forget to enable blu_spark blu_active governor.
Let me know if the fix is a permanent solution for you.
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Yes exactly. Let the minimums as it is and lower the maximum frequencies. FKM received a big overhaul update in version 4.0, which apparently I haven't used. The menus are different but the functionality must be the same. Also don't forget to enable blu_spark blu_active governor.
Let me know if the fix is a permanent solution for you.
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Okay. Thanks. I've done it. So far so good. I have set frequencies to 1248MHz, 2112MHz. These I selected from the options pop-up. There's no way to type frequencies manually. One small query. When I do any changes in franco kernel, I don't have to reboot to apply those changes. Or should I ?
archz2 said:
@BlackRazor97
There's no battery tips tab.
I found these settings under the CPU tab of Franco Kernel Manager. Please see the screenshot attached. I should input the values suggested by you in maximum CPU frequencies options and let the minimum cpu frequencies remain with the default values and turn the CPU governor on.
Right?
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Actually there is a battery tips tab.
And if you are interested, you can check the Lazy kernel
They say it's good.
archz2 said:
Okay. Thanks. I've done it. So far so good. I have set frequencies to 1248MHz, 2112MHz. These I selected from the options pop-up. There's no way to type frequencies manually. One small query. When I do any changes in franco kernel, I don't have to reboot to apply those changes. Or should I ?
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Nice! Yes, I think you don't need to reboot for the settings to apply. You can check with another app like CPUZ to check if clocks go above 2112MHz. But I think you should be fine.
As for the Lazy Kernel, I don't know if it's compatible with stock Android 10 OOS. But here we don't go for the performance but we target stability and low thermals to resolve the screen issue.
BlackRazor97 said:
Nice! Yes, I think you don't need to reboot for the settings to apply. You can check with another app like CPUZ to check if clocks go above 2112MHz. But I think you should be fine.
As for the Lazy Kernel, I don't know if it's compatible with stock Android 10 OOS. But here we don't go for the performance but we target stability and low thermals to resolve the screen issue.
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Yah there is lazy kernel for stock OOS .
Those who flashed it has high recommendations and showed low ram usage .
Before flashing lazy kernel it was 700 mb free ram usage .
After flashing lazy kernel , attached screenshot.
Rom- derpfest
I haven't flashed it yet , I will when I get time
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@BlackRazor97
Okay. Almost a week went by. I faced non-responsive screens in last 3-4 days but the issue got resolved by tapping mindlessly on the screen when it was locked and frequent screen unlocks. Yesterday came the issue where I rebooted the phone multiple times to make the screen respond. Today the issue also came, half an hour ago and frequent reboots didn't solve the issue. I rebooted in recovery and wiped the cache and dalvic. Then I started my phone. It responded fine. I went to Franco Kernel Manager. To my surprise, the frequencies were switched back to 2361 MHz for Big Cluster and 1824 or 1900 MHz (can't remember which one) for the Little Cluster. Now I've changed them back to 2112 MHz and 1248 MHz
How did these frequencies got back to higher number without me every touching the Kernel Manager? I didn't install any app, nothing in these days.
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@BlackRazor97
Okay. Almost a week went by. I faced non-responsive screens in last 3-4 days but the issue got resolved by tapping mindlessly on the screen when it was locked and frequent screen unlocks. Yesterday came the issue where I rebooted the phone multiple times to make the screen respond. Today the issue also came, half an hour ago and frequent reboots didn't solve the issue. I rebooted in recovery and wiped the cache and dalvic. Then I started my phone. It responded fine. I went to Franco Kernel Manager. To my surprise, the frequencies were switched back to 2361 MHz for Big Cluster and 1824 or 1900 MHz (can't remember which one) for the Little Cluster. Now I've changed them back to 2112 MHz and 1248 MHz
How did these frequencies got back to higher number without me every touching the Kernel Manager? I didn't install any app, nothing in these days.
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Did you set it to set on boot my friend?
When I enable the CPU governor blu_active, I get the notification "set on boot:true", that's it. I didn't toggle any other setting. I just restarted, the frequencies are back to 2361 MHz. Is there some other place where I should set on boot ?
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archz2 said:
When I enable the CPU governor blu_active, I get the notification "set on boot:true", that's it. I didn't toggle any other setting. I just restarted, the frequencies are back to 2361 MHz. Is there some other place where I should set on boot ?
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Do one thing this time.
Under clock both your CPU AND GPU.
Under battery life tips, check under clock both.
And click on the settings icon just near to it and set it on boot.
Check this for some days and tell me
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rohithksaj said:
Do one thing this time.
Under clock both your CPU AND GPU.
Under battery life tips, check under clock both.
And click on the settings icon just near to it and set it on boot.
Check this for some days and tell me
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Thanks. I've done it. I'll keep you posted.
The situation became worse after underclocking. Had to reboot twice to get the screen working. I went back to the old settings.
archz2 said:
The situation became worse after underclocking. Had to reboot twice to get the screen working. I went back to the old settings.
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DO NOT use the automatic underclock button. This also lowers the voltage to the point it becomes unstable and we don't want this to happen. Use the typical 2112 MHz and 1248 MHz (big and little cluster accordingly).
Unfortunately, it seems that the "set on boot:true" flag is bugged. So every time you shutdown your phone, you have to re-configure to the frequencies. Let me know if you have found any better solution to keep the settings.

Question Pixel 6 Pro is slowing down.

My Pixel 6 Pro has been slow to respond when opening apps. Android 13 is installed. Very disappointed. Hopefully there will be a good trade https://omegle.onl/ vshare in offer when the Pixel 7 line is released.
I experience extreme lag on my p6pro. I updated to a13 QPR1 beta 1 and no magisk modules installed. Seems to be running fine now
No problem/issue here ... official TP1A.220905.004 release.
ı ınstall Android 13 QPR1 too and works great.
I can confirm that my p6p lags severely under heavy workloads, especially cloud sync. I'm having a lot of trouble t]ping this comment
I underclock my processor by 50% (to reduce heat and save battery) - but I haven't noticed any significant lag. Granted, I just use my phone for basic tasks and don't go too crazy with it, haha.
NippleSauce said:
I underclock my processor by 50% (to reduce heat and save battery) - but I haven't noticed any significant lag. Granted, I just use my phone for basic tasks and don't go too crazy with it, haha.
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How do you underclock? The settings don't stick if you use FKM or EXKM to change the values.
Gytole said:
How do you underclock? The settings don't stick if you use FKM or EXKM to change the values.
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Wait, really...? Perhaps I should've looked into that first lol. But I suppose that it's still -25% with MVK flashed.
*Edit* - Actually, I just checked my CPU readings and the 50% underclock is indeed working and carries over/is reapplied after each reboot. FKM FTW, haha.
P6P on A13 is just a very smooth experience for me, no lags like at all
I've had no problems on Stable Android 13 (I'm on the latest September Stable update).

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