Installed it about an hour ago (UK) and in general the phone seems a noticeably zippier for browsing and opening apps etc.
I am not a tech head, and the update is small, only 13 ish megabytes, but feels like the sluggishness I had been experiencing the last six months has gone somewhat. I had really set my mind and wallet on getting a Pixel 4a, but may stick with this a bit longer if the sluggishness has improved.
Wonder if others are finding the same ?
DonkeyKonk said:
Installed it about an hour ago (UK) and in general the phone seems a noticeably zippier for browsing and opening apps etc.
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You rebooted to install it and that is known to temporarily solve the "ram issues" that android 10 has on this phone.
It's not the update.
a1291762 said:
You rebooted to install it and that is known to temporarily solve the "ram issues" that android 10 has on this phone.
It's not the update.
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Ohh, it is the update. This one really made the phone feel snappier, and visibly improved performance. Usually it slugs down to a crawl while I'm testing to see if it's still usable after the update, and even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine, no hogs, no slow downs, minimal stuttering while heavy multi-tasking.
For example, on 11.0.7, go to Chrome, access fast.com (internet speed test) - it downloads and uploads a test file, so intensive i/o memory usage, and try closing the tab and chrome while still downloading... it's slow, it stutters a lot, it occasionally freezes the device, that doesn't happen anymore in august update. Also the speed limitation I was talking about in my review of 11.0.9 is now gone.
TeoXSD said:
Ohh, it is the update. This one really made the phone feel snappier, and visibly improved performance. Usually it slugs down to a crawl while I'm testing to see if it's still usable after the update, and even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine, no hogs, no slow downs, minimal stuttering while heavy multi-tasking.
For example, on 11.0.7, go to Chrome, access fast.com (internet speed test) - it downloads and uploads a test file, so intensive i/o memory usage, and try closing the tab and chrome while still downloading... it's slow, it stutters a lot, it occasionally freezes the device, that doesn't happen anymore in august update. Also the speed limitation I was talking about in my review of 11.0.9 is now gone.
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Well I think these ss weren't automated replies after all.
TeoXSD said:
even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine
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Apparently I rebooted this morning so I only have 16 hours of uptime. But I have been rebooting weekly so I feel it is still a bit early to be celebrating.
That said, I did just have XDA stay in memory while I downloaded podcasts, updated apps and opened some pages in both Firefox beta and Firefox (opening pages to copy urls over without sync).
Maybe it was a build.prop tweak. That would be small...
a1291762 said:
Apparently I rebooted this morning so I only have 16 hours of uptime. But I have been rebooting weekly so I feel it is still a bit early to be celebrating.
That said, I did just have XDA stay in memory while I downloaded podcasts, updated apps and opened some pages in both Firefox beta and Firefox (opening pages to copy urls over without sync).
Maybe it was a build.prop tweak. That would be small...
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Actually what I want to say is I am using l speed and I have changed the RAM management profile to multitasking and that fixes my issue and basically it is it editing the build prop my question is if Xiaomi did the same thing and fix the issue isn't it good I mean I can do it with root but all they did was changed this thing which they could have done a long time ago but do keep in mind whenever I use this profile my battery drains a bit faster not like a lot faster only a little bit faster.
Aadil Gillani said:
I am using l speed and I have changed the RAM management profile to multitasking and that fixes my issue and basically it is it editing the build prop my question is if Xiaomi did the same thing and fix the issue isn't it good
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I found lspeed and friends to extend the time I could run before reboot, not fix the problem.
But now I'm curious so I'm gonna diff the partitions to find out what they changed.
a1291762 said:
I found lspeed and friends to extend the time I could run before reboot, not fix the problem.
But now I'm curious so I'm gonna diff the partitions to find out what they changed.
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Please do tell what they changed
I'm ... not seeing anything obvious
build.prop changed, but it's just timestamps and versions (ie. normal "make a release" stuff)
only boot, system and vendor were modified
I've attached the diff report (not changes, just modified files), minus a large number of .odex files.
Looks like some media lib bugs got fixed.
I dunno... also, I tried to run the diff on my phone and killed it so my uptime was reset again (finished the comparison on my computer, after converting and mounting the images).
TeoXSD said:
Ohh, it is the update. This one really made the phone feel snappier, and visibly improved performance. Usually it slugs down to a crawl while I'm testing to see if it's still usable after the update, and even after 24hrs after the update it still works just fine, no hogs, no slow downs, minimal stuttering while heavy multi-tasking.
For example, on 11.0.7, go to Chrome, access fast.com (internet speed test) - it downloads and uploads a test file, so intensive i/o memory usage, and try closing the tab and chrome while still downloading... it's slow, it stutters a lot, it occasionally freezes the device, that doesn't happen anymore in august update. Also the speed limitation I was talking about in my review of 11.0.9 is now gone.
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I have downgraded to android 8.1 version 9.6.11.0
Tried that thing with fast.com no stutter nothing! I would suggest everybody who is tired with xiaomi updates on this phone to downgrade to android 8.1 like i did and it will remind the reason why you purchased this phone in the first place! Its super fast, super responsive, the statusbar icons dont take to much space, everything is working and games will be in ram even if you minimize at morning and reopen at midnight! I thought i would change my phone because it was useless and now it is faster than i ever remembered!
Nearly 4 days of uptime and my phone is once again killing apps as soon as I leave them.
Well nearly been a week now since the update, and definitely feels to me.that things have improved at lot in general use.
Not as good as it was brand new, but nowhere near as bad as it was getting the previous few months, and very usable.
Battery life seems to have gotten back to where it was before too.
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i have a feeling this phone is starting to show its age. it seems whenever i install more than 100 apps on this phone it just becomes laggy as hell. to the point where right now the keyboard doesn't even open until 10 seconds later and phone constantly make weird noises when using tune in radio or youtube. the phone is also so slow that it can't even run temple run 2 or any of the games that came out recently. im using xylon rom with trinity kernel for those wondering. i honestly cannot use this phone anymore without having to do a factory reset every month just to stop the lag.
this could be a sign that its time to get a new phone but for now is there anyway to improve performance at all? i already am using the fastest trinity kernel and i have tried multiple roms and all of them seems to lag after hitting 100 apps mark which is ridiculous.
Have you made sure that the phone is not running out of memory as that is what usually causes the slow problems...I too have a 100+ apps and little or no lag. Try a different kernel and Rom maybe u could also tweak the processor speeds and stuff to get your desired performance...
If I helped hit thx
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Flash stock factory ROM and do a full wipe.
If you want later then flash custom ROM which is "STABLE".
Then make sure you have enough free memory on your Nexus's internal memory to avoid the lags.
You actually can't improve your Nexus's performance any other way, tweaks speed up very much..
I have over 60 apps installed (usually apps that I need) and some games..
I have 1.4 GB free memory on My Nexus and I use some cleaner apps to get more free space and I don't have any lags..
I use stock ROM that I've modified and stock default kernel..
The hardware slows primarily because of software (apps). Once the hardware fails, it fails.
Check and reign in the number and frequency of apps that sync, update and or check in.
Are you syncing an email client and or keeping them on the device rather than say the Exchange server?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
kudoboi said:
i have a feeling this phone is starting to show its age. it seems whenever i install more than 100 apps on this phone it just becomes laggy as hell. to the point where right now the keyboard doesn't even open until 10 seconds later and phone constantly make weird noises when using tune in radio or youtube. the phone is also so slow that it can't even run temple run 2 or any of the games that came out recently. im using xylon rom with trinity kernel for those wondering. i honestly cannot use this phone anymore without having to do a factory reset every month just to stop the lag.
this could be a sign that its time to get a new phone but for now is there anyway to improve performance at all? i already am using the fastest trinity kernel and i have tried multiple roms and all of them seems to lag after hitting 100 apps mark which is ridiculous.
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I have 276 apps on my Nexus and (perceived) performance is better than ever using XENON HD Stable-4.0 and the Franco kernel r364. For the latest update of the ROM, I decided to risk a dirty flash. I seem to have gotten away with it. Performance "feels" excellent, whatever that is worth. My last factory reset was about 2 months ago.
The ROM and kernel have a variety of performance tweaks. I wish there was a way to benchmark performance in a controlled fashion. I hate feeling and perception in the performance department.
On the new ROM, WiFI performance is now solidly pegged at my account's limit of 30 MBs. It was all over the map before, although I realize that many factors affect the Speed Test app.
The "seeder" app helped a lot for my device in reducing lag. The overall community is sharply divided about the effectiveness of the seeder: YMMV. Its worth trying, though. I've been using it for about 6 weeks. Other than the Google Play Store updates, I don't have lag any more. Before the seeder, I felt like you -- the phone was almost unusable.
Regarding the device feeling dated, this ROM supports the expanded desktop and the pie. Wow, the phone feels new again. No kidding.
smtom said:
The hardware slows primarily because of software (apps). Once the hardware fails, it fails.
Check and reign in the number and frequency of apps that sync, update and or check in.
Are you syncing an email client and or keeping them on the device rather than say the Exchange server?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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I also observed that the apps that run sync/update/check in were slowing down the phone. Check for apps that have daemons associated with them. Decide whether its worth having.
Hello,
Most games on my devices crashing and slow down the device. I think that is not normal and the "final" seems like a beta version. What do you think?
Most of the apps are not optimized for Oreo yet.
I'm seeing a performance dip as well. It takes time to switch between apps, and there's choppy performance using WhatsApp. I don't know if it is caused by an unoptimized background app.
can confirm. Especially when multiple apps are open. Then again, we only have 2gb of ramto work with,lol
It has been optimized with the September patch I think. My device is blazing fast after the update.
Sound's like I should skip the Oreo update on my 5X for a few months.
I'm glad to report no performance issues after upgrading to 8.0 Oreo OTA.
App switching is definition slower, but typing is almost impossible at times. The keyboard cannot keep up, and it's almost impossible to type within 15 seconds of using quick search from the home screen or after any app is opened.
I'm hoping a clean install helps with this.
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App switching is definition slower, but typing is almost impossible at times. The keyboard cannot keep up, and it's almost impossible to type within 15 seconds of using quick search from the home screen or after any app is opened.
I'm hoping a clean install helps with this.
Fix for performance issues
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
I have major performance issues with Oreo. Switching back to chrome after using another app often causes a wait of 10-15 seconds until chrome is responsive, worse if I have a few tabs open, and the keyboard takes another 5 or so seconds to show up.
My RAM usage is most often at 95-99% so insufficient RAM is likely the cause for me. If I remember correctly, apps targeting Oreo should have a smaller memory footprint, but it will take a while until most apps are.
This phone is going to have to last me another year, so I hope performance will improve.
Why is it that some peoples phones are blazing fast with amazing battery life, running great on Oreo and then others are slow, terrible battery life, running like crap? It just dont make sense, it cant be Oreo since alot of people are running great!
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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This made my laggy oreo very fast now. Thanks. I was about to downgrade today, but I'll give it another 24 hours after switching to skia. Major improvements already with app switching and loading camera/snapchat
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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omg thank you for this, this fixed lags on my stock oreo system and my battery life increased by 50%
Agree, really fast with the latest update.
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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Just an FYI for others, this option and many others in Developer Options do not persist after rebooting. I'm guessing for some it's a placebo due to this.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using XDA Labs
Thank you
So much better after doing this!
gpachov said:
For anyone with performance issues after Oreo update,
go to Developer options and change the default GPU renderer from
OpenGL to skia (the old one)
Fixed the rendering lags and app-switching delays on my 5x after Oreo.
I guess I'll wait for a patch to try out the openGL, but for now using Skia restored the sharpness to my device.
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Switching to opengl(skia) seems pretty pointless since the device reverts to opengl(default) after every reboot.
Its slow
Can confirm that there is deterioration in performance after the oreo update, choppy phone dial app, especially on cold start, everything lagging by sec or two, keyboard, app switching and especially the camera app, its taking like 5-10 sec to open, and most annoying of all the shutter speed of the camera is now like a budget Chinese phone. It's slow when taking pictures, Disappointed! The change of the rendering engine to openGL(skia) not the default one, seems to improve the performance a bit, I'm testing just now but i thinks it's not like it's supposed to be. It might be as someone pointed out that google is trying to kill off the Nexus brand or something... if thats the case it's a **** move.
Found the fix: wipe your phone cache partition in recovery, then reboot. My 5X was slow as hell after the update, after doing this it's snappy again, even faster than before!!
sinedied said:
Found the fix: wipe your phone cache partition in recovery, then reboot. My 5X was slow as hell after the update, after doing this it's snappy again, even faster than before!!
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This might have helped with my recent issue with Google Play Music - it was constantly utilizing CPU and overheating phone for no apparent reason. After cleaning of cache partition in recovery it seems to be fixed (at least for the time being).
I'm experiencing lot's of issues with the latest Android update.
Firstly I made an clean install. My System, Recovery and Bootlader is all stock or anything else got modded.
My RAM is always 99% used.
I have only Messaging apps and Media apps installed. (i.e. WhatsApp, Telegram, Allo, Hangouts, YouTube, Spotify)
So here is my issue:
My apps won't stay in the RAM.
If I write a message in Hangouts and than switch to WhatsApp, immediately switching back to Hangouts will cause this app to restart.
This is happening to all applications...
Btw app startup takes 5-10 seconds and unlocking the device with my fingerprint sensor takes also 5-10 seconds.
I made a factory reset twice. Nothing changed...
Do you expereince the same problems with Android Oreo or is it running smooth for you?
Updated to Oreo since day one. Yes, ram do stay at 90-95% at all time. My fix was simply using greenify with root of course and put everything to hibernate except for the very important stuff like IM and Mail app. Now it's back to the standard 70-80% and I'm pretty happy with it.
Aragur said:
I'm experiencing lot's of issues with the latest Android update.
Firstly I made an clean install. My System, Recovery and Bootlader is all stock or anything else got modded.
My RAM is always 99% used.
I have only Messaging apps and Media apps installed. (i.e. WhatsApp, Telegram, Allo, Hangouts, YouTube, Spotify)
So here is my issue:
My apps won't stay in the RAM.
If I write a message in Hangouts and than switch to WhatsApp, immediately switching back to Hangouts will cause this app to restart.
This is happening to all applications...
Btw app startup takes 5-10 seconds and unlocking the device with my fingerprint sensor takes also 5-10 seconds.
I made a factory reset twice. Nothing changed...
Do you expereince the same problems with Android Oreo or is it running smooth for you?
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google is trying to throw nexus brand away!
so simple
My experience with it is good apart from battery life it's terrible.im thinking of selling my phone
anazhd said:
Updated to Oreo since day one. Yes, ram do stay at 90-95% at all time. My fix was simply using greenify with root of course and put everything to hibernate except for the very important stuff like IM and Mail app. Now it's back to the standard 70-80% and I'm pretty happy with it.
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A much better solution would be to limit background processes which can be done in Oreo manually but is normally done automatically anyway.
Keeping apps in RAM and letting the system do the memory management is a great idea, manually force closing apps (which is what "hibernate" does) just removes it from RAM and sure, you'll have more free RAM but what are you going to use that for? To reload the same apps back into RAM again which is much slower and drains more battery.
Your RAM should be as full as possible, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Aragur said:
I'm experiencing lot's of issues with the latest Android update.
Firstly I made an clean install. My System, Recovery and Bootlader is all stock or anything else got modded.
My RAM is always 99% used.
I have only Messaging apps and Media apps installed. (i.e. WhatsApp, Telegram, Allo, Hangouts, YouTube, Spotify)
So here is my issue:
My apps won't stay in the RAM.
If I write a message in Hangouts and than switch to WhatsApp, immediately switching back to Hangouts will cause this app to restart.
This is happening to all applications...
Btw app startup takes 5-10 seconds and unlocking the device with my fingerprint sensor takes also 5-10 seconds.
I made a factory reset twice. Nothing changed...
Do you expereince the same problems with Android Oreo or is it running smooth for you?
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That the RAM is full is great, it shows that it's working as intended. That apps won't stay in RAM is a problem though, one that I don't have.
Battery life is about the same for me while the multitasking/memory management/background process limitations/performance is much, much better.
I just OTA'd it without wiping anything.
Nicktheprofessor said:
A much better solution would be to limit background processes which can be done in Oreo manually but is normally done automatically anyway.
Keeping apps in RAM and letting the system do the memory management is a great idea, manually force closing apps (which is what "hibernate" does) just removes it from RAM and sure, you'll have more free RAM but what are you going to use that for? To reload the same apps back into RAM again which is much slower and drains more battery.
Your RAM should be as full as possible, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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That the RAM is full is great, it shows that it's working as intended. That apps won't stay in RAM is a problem though, one that I don't have.
Battery life is about the same for me while the multitasking/memory management/background process limitations/performance is much, much better.
I just OTA'd it without wiping anything.
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So if I run 10 apps in the early in the morning, and then only want to use 2 apps throughout the day, I should keep the other 8 apps so it would load faster the next time? But then due to the lack of ram, every time I'm trying to do task switching between ONLY those 2 apps, I MUST wait for a reload each time? Your logic checks out mt professor. I should've used an iPhone instead.
anazhd said:
So if I run 10 apps in the early in the morning, and then only want to use 2 apps throughout the day, I should keep the other 8 apps so it would load faster the next time? But then due to the lack of ram, every time I'm trying to do task switching between ONLY those 2 apps, I MUST wait for a reload each time? Your logic checks out mt professor. I should've used an iPhone instead.
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Yes, you should keep them and NO, it doesn't work that way.
Your phone keeps the apps that are used and swaps out (ZRAM until that's full then back to disk) or flushes those that are not, the most recent apps are the ones that are prioritized and kept in RAM so your two apps will be kept in RAM at all times unless they are so large that one is swapped out but in that case "cleaning RAM" won't make any difference.
It's not my logic, it's simply the case that I know how memory management in Linux works and you don't.
BTW, the memory management in the Mach kernel (originally from FreeBSD) that IOS uses works exactly the same.
I'm having the same issues.
I made a fresh install of the Factory Image, and then flashed the OTA just to see if it helped any when it came out.
Going from any app to the home screen takes about 5 seconds, and you invariably get some time to stare at the blank wallpaper before the icons pop in several seconds later.
Starting up the camera takes probably as much. Trying to take a lens blur photo is hell, since the scrolling is all choppy.
Starting Chrome takes ages. Same thing with Facebook.
It often happens that I'm listening to music on Play Music, and I go to Facebook then task switch to, say WhatsApp, and Play Music dies.
Also nice when it happens with Uber. Ask for the car, answer WhatsApp and 10 minutes later, why isn't the car here? Surprise. The Uber app had died.
Using the Share dialog is also hell, and so is the Photos app.
Running better than Nougat here.
I have generally found that starting from scratch every major update is the way to go, instead of doing OTA updates.
Android is an open platform that allows you to customize in a lot of ways. The trade-off is you can often get rogue apps / services running in the background sucking away performance and battery life without you realising it (unless you use Better Battery Stats etc. Still, even then things can sneak under the radar).
Every now and again wiping everything and starting fresh can make your device seem like new again. The standard Google backup service is getting pretty good now as well. Combined with the new Google auto-fill service I have now ditched apps like Titanium backup completely. (Google is now backing up SMS's for you, which is a massive win).
I am using a few tweaks which is probably worth mentioning:
* EX Kernel - Glassfish 1.2 governor profile
* Magisk 13.3
* Greenify - systemized with Magisk
* Oreo Pixel mods
Using Magisk allows me to have root and still make Safetynet pass, which ensures Android Pay etc. can still be used.
tim.smart said:
Running better than Nougat here.
I have generally found that starting from scratch every major update is the way to go, instead of doing OTA updates.
Android is an open platform that allows you to customize in a lot of ways. The trade-off is you can often get rogue apps / services running in the background sucking away performance and battery life without you realising it (unless you use Better Battery Stats etc. Still, even then things can sneak under the radar).
Every now and again wiping everything and starting fresh can make your device seem like new again. The standard Google backup service is getting pretty good now as well. Combined with the new Google auto-fill service I have now ditched apps like Titanium backup completely. (Google is now backing up SMS's for you, which is a massive win).
I am using a few tweaks which is probably worth mentioning:
* EX Kernel - Glassfish 1.2 governor profile
* Magisk 13.3
* Greenify - systemized with Magisk
* Oreo Pixel mods
Using Magisk allows me to have root and still make Safetynet pass, which ensures Android Pay etc. can still be used.
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Are you using stock ROM ?
I did a full wipe but the system was very laggy compared to Nougat. Maybe EX Kernel can optimize that...
Atok_fr said:
Are you using stock ROM ?
I did a full wipe but the system was very laggy compared to Nougat. Maybe EX Kernel can optimize that...
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Yes I am using the factory images.
I don't think the EX Kernel will fix a laggy system. It will improve battery life but you won't see massive leaps in performance or anything - the stock kernel is still pretty good!
My guess is one of your installed apps is probably doing something weird.
You could try completely stock (don't install any apps) and see what the performance is like.
tim.smart said:
Running better than Nougat here.
I have generally found that starting from scratch every major update is the way to go, instead of doing OTA updates.
Android is an open platform that allows you to customize in a lot of ways. The trade-off is you can often get rogue apps / services running in the background sucking away performance and battery life without you realising it (unless you use Better Battery Stats etc. Still, even then things can sneak under the radar).
Every now and again wiping everything and starting fresh can make your device seem like new again. The standard Google backup service is getting pretty good now as well. Combined with the new Google auto-fill service I have now ditched apps like Titanium backup completely. (Google is now backing up SMS's for you, which is a massive win).
I am using a few tweaks which is probably worth mentioning:
* EX Kernel - Glassfish 1.2 governor profile
* Magisk 13.3
* Greenify - systemized with Magisk
* Oreo Pixel mods
Using Magisk allows me to have root and still make Safetynet pass, which ensures Android Pay etc. can still be used.
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Thanks a lot!
I'm no rooted using Magisk 13.6.
I'm also using Greenify (PlayStore Version). Systemized Version (via Magisk) didn't work. (Crashed during setup). But the PlayStore Version is working fine.
I'm having the best performance I ever had with my device.
Why is Google releasing such a broken version?
Finaly what Oreo Pixel mods are you using?
Aragur said:
Thanks a lot!
I'm no rooted using Magisk 13.6.
I'm also using Greenify (PlayStore Version). Systemized Version (via Magisk) didn't work. (Crashed during setup). But the PlayStore Version is working fine.
I'm having the best performance I ever had with my device.
Why is Google releasing such a broken version?
Finaly what Oreo Pixel mods are you using?
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I'm using these mods: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3663681
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
Upgraded to v8 and now system performance is terrible and many FC's. It seems this release was not ready for prime time or Oreo will require more than 2GB of RAM for a functionable experience.
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Upgraded to v8 and now system performance is terrible and many FC's. It seems this release was not ready for prime time or Oreo will require more than 2GB of RAM for a functionable experience.
One of the most annoying things are these notifications that Facebook Messenger is running in the background and you can't get rid of them.
BlueZinc said:
One of the most annoying things are these notifications that Facebook Messenger is running in the background and you can't get rid of them.
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Here is a fix for that: https://www.xda-developers.com/hide-app-running-background-notification-android-oreo/
I have alot aof Lags with Oreo. Slow opening the camera and shot an Photo. Poor Performance when i using some Apps like Facebook, Google Plus and other. I just downgrade to Android 7.1.2.
Performance has been awful for me. Always stuttering and freezing up. I have had 3 Nexus phones (Nexus One, Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X). I've gotten many make major updates. The update to Oreo has been the worst by far. And the battery life has shown a large decline.
Clean flashed Oreo last night with the latest SuperSU/ElementalX/3Minit performance has been excellent; battery has been ok.
Here is the order in which I flashed:
- flashed stock via fastboot
- wiped userdata, flashed ElementalX (to unencrypt)
- booted, finished setup
- disabled most of Google's bloat (drive/Google App/TTS), updated internal GApps
- rebooted into recovery and flashed SuperSU, booted in (installed MinitResources) and rebooted back to recovery
- flashed Surround Sound/Aroma tweaks (3minit/Pixel Navbar)
- disabled A57 cluster (GhostPepper for small cluster), underclocked GPU to 367MHz, disabled KSM/ZRAM
- Buttery smooth even with a 60fps Nexus live wallpaper
:good:
Aragur said:
I'm experiencing lot's of issues with the latest Android update.
Firstly I made an clean install. My System, Recovery and Bootlader is all stock or anything else got modded.
My RAM is always 99% used.
I have only Messaging apps and Media apps installed. (i.e. WhatsApp, Telegram, Allo, Hangouts, YouTube, Spotify)
So here is my issue:
My apps won't stay in the RAM.
If I write a message in Hangouts and than switch to WhatsApp, immediately switching back to Hangouts will cause this app to restart.
This is happening to all applications...
Btw app startup takes 5-10 seconds and unlocking the device with my fingerprint sensor takes also 5-10 seconds.
I made a factory reset twice. Nothing changed...
Do you expereince the same problems with Android Oreo or is it running smooth for you?
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My experience:
Battery life was great , apart from a drain when gaming, but I don't game so I didn't care
RAM Management - I know what you mean, my RAM was 1.8 GB consistently
Speeds - No consistent problem apart from games again. When gaming, my device would freeze and go jaggedly. :crying:
Fingerprint Scanner - 1-2 seconds to unlock
But alas, I installed TWRP and got a bootloop....
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jimv1983 said:
Performance has been awful for me. Always stuttering and freezing up. I have had 3 Nexus phones (Nexus One, Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X). I've gotten many make major updates. The update to Oreo has been the worst by far. And the battery life has shown a large decline.
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That was me with Nougat. There wasnt a 7.x.x update which didnt bug my phone.
7.0 - Battery
7.1 - Battery, Bluetooth, WiFi
7.1.1 - Battery, WiFi
7.1.2 - Battery, WiFi, Bluetooth, Charging Decline
8.0.0 - Cannot handle gaming
8.0.1 - ???
I flashed the factory image, but I'm running into serous memory issues as well.
The biggest problem is that it's a toss-up if taking a picture will kill my music... Taking 2 pictures in a row will kill the music 100% of the time. I've tried turning HDR off, but I still run into the same issue every now and then. If I try to take a picture while using navigation and listening to music; it will hard crash. Not only will music and navigation close, but I will loose the picture AND my homescreen wallpaper. It will crash to the homescreen and reset whatever image or live wallpaper I have to the factory pink mountain image.
I've also had music crash when trying to send an MMS too... Multitasking just seems to be a nightmare after Oreo. My original plan was to move to a three year cycle when buying the Nexus 5X, but I doubt it'll make it another full year.
Hello.
I got a Mi A2 Lite a few days ago, is my first Android One. My model have 3Gb of RAM.
I'm facing the following problem:
Let's say I'm playing Lords Mobile (the only game I play). Then, I receive a message on WhatsApp. I go there and reply. I then go to Facebook and/or Chrome to check something, and want to go back to Lords Mobile. The game was pulled out from memory, and need to reload again from zero. Same with Chrome, it shows all my tabs I had opened, but is surelly reloading again from zero. Is like the "clear all" of 'recent apps' on some other phones.
I think 3Gb of RAM is enough to handle these apps, don't? I don't have too much apps installed, and the memory use is about 2Gb. I don't know if this behavior is native, by the way. Another example: if I go to sleep just after play, when I go to game again in the morning, the game reload from zero.
Is this normal? Any way to make this model handle the memory in a better way, if is the case?
My device is on Pie, July security patch. No root.
Thanks in advice
It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
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It gets better over time. There is "AI" that figures out what to keep in memory.
But in general, pie seems to be worse than previous releases at keeping things in memory, even when memory is not full.
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Thanks.
Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
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Is there a way to get rid of AI, or set an app to be excluded from this?
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Not that anyone seems to know. Maybe custom ROMs help?
I just used my phone like normal and noticed that it got better at not unloading apps that I came back to regularly.
You can try to force Android Go mode, since it's designed for really small RAM use but I tried it and didn't like it (changes some things).
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Thank you. I don't go for Android Go, seems worse. lol
Any other suggestions will be welcome.
It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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It's not AI, it's the Kernel's scheduler profile, and Xiaomi is famous for tuning it with an aggressive policy towards keeping as much RAM available as possible. The only way to improve it is by installing a custom kernel.
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Well, custom kernel and ROMs means unlocking bootloader... I can't do this for now. But, anyway, thanks!
3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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3 gigs of ram is barely enough for pie. On the 4 gig version I have barely 1 gig free at idle. But mostly, the app kill is done by a crappy A.I. system that does some battery optimization.
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Well, taking in note what @slimshady76 wrote above, maybe the "Butterfly for daisy" will be a good deal. But I can't do it now.
I just made a test on last 2 days.
I uninstalled any optional app on phone I downloaded, and disabled a lot of system apps. Lords Mobile won't unload from memory when switching and/or when I sleep and back to game at morning.
So, is a lack of memory, but I still thinking 3Gb is enough to handle it. When 10.0.12.0 comes available to download, I'll try Butterfly kernel.
Greetings,
Did anyone find the present issues with ONE UI 4.0 update in Galaxy S20 Ultra?
Well for me, After updating to android 12, my device has started to lag, mostly while switching windows, i mean apps and while pulling down the task bar for notifications and quick settings. Even there is a visible decrease in the overall performance.
Fixes that i have tried are, changing between different settings, such as toggling 120Hz back 60Hz and then back to 120Hz, changing color temprature to vivid then back to normal and then back to vivid plus switching off the blur in task bar by going into Accessibility settings > Visibility Enhancements > Reduce transparency and blur but nothing has worked so far. As a last resort to fix this problem, i have also reset it to factory, little improvement though but unsatisfactory.
What could be the possible issue and What could fix this?
You did a factory reset... 12 is a dud.
Not going to candy coat it as many have wanted to roll back from it. You can either do that, wait for a patch or play with it and try to find a work arounds. Try disabling all animations, etc in Developer options.
On my N10+'s one is 9, the other 10 and there they will stay.
Well, i think it is a good idea to play with it while gathering tips and tricks from other users.
I don't have these kinds of issues on OneUI 4.0, this update actually fixed most of the issues I had with this phone to be honest.
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I don't have these kinds of issues on OneUI 4.0, this update actually fixed most of the issues I had with this phone to be honest.
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What is your security patch date?
I have the very same issues after updating my S20 5G to One UI 4.0 Android 12. Tried everything without improvement. Rebooting te phone helps a bit for at most 24 hours, after which the phone is too laggy and stuttering again to work with...
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What is your security patch date?
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1st of december 2021.
If reboot can fix it for 24 hours then i won't bother rebooting it every 24 hours.
maxi65 said:
If reboot can fix it for 24 hours then i won't bother rebooting it every 24 hours.
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Tried it but nothing has changed.
Goldenrooster said:
I have the very same issues after updating my S20 5G to One UI 4.0 Android 12. Tried everything without improvement. Rebooting te phone helps a bit for at most 24 hours, after which the phone is too laggy and stuttering again to work with...
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Is it a memory leak? What's ram usage look like when it acts up? What apks or services are running? How much memory are they using? What's using a lot a battery and/or bandwidth?
Play with it... Adroids wuv attention.
I can go for many days without a reboot on my N10+'s, most of the times I reboot as an afterthought rather than a necessity. The Android OS should be very stable... not running like bloody Vista
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Is it a memory leak? What's ram usage look like when it acts up? What apks or services are running? How much memory are they using? What's using a lot a battery and/or bandwidth?
Play with it... Adroids wuv attention.
I can go for many days without a reboot on my N10+'s, most of the times I reboot as an afterthought rather than a necessity. The Android OS should be very stable... not running like bloody Vista
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The reason is still unknown.
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The reason is still unknown.
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You need to start looking for clues.
They are there in Device Care and Developer options showing what's cached, running and stats on memory usage. Seeing what's accessing the internet and how often is another tool to use. I also use 3rd party apps like Package Disabler to troubleshoot.
That's how I find almost everything that misbehaves on an Android.
I never upgrade an OS if it is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. As I have already spent a lot of time to optimize it and find work arounds. Moreover I know how it should behave making malware easier to spot at the get go. I spend very little time on maintenance as such.
The current load on this phone will be 2 yo in June. That's the kind of stability the Android OS platform is capable of. If you're constantly mucking with the firmware and software you'll never realize this potential. Forget the Google update hype and go with what works... and always redundantly backup critical data.
Only thing that I can find is that RAM usage of Android System right after reboot is 14 MB, but after everything starts to lag and stutter (usually after 24 hrs) RAM usage is around 500 MB... Can't find any other strange behavior..
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Only thing that I can find is that RAM usage of Android System right after reboot is 14 MB, but after everything starts to lag and stutter (usually after 24 hrs) RAM usage is around 500 MB... Can't find any other strange behavior..
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I think usage of 500Mb can't effect the performance because it has 12 GB of RAM.
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You need to start looking for clues.
They are there in Device Care and Developer options showing what's cached, running and stats on memory usage. Seeing what's accessing the internet and how often is another tool to use. I also use 3rd party apps like Package Disabler to troubleshoot.
That's how I find almost everything that misbehaves on an Android.
I never upgrade an OS if it is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. As I have already spent a lot of time to optimize it and find work arounds. Moreover I know how it should behave making malware easier to spot at the get go. I spend very little time on maintenance as such.
The current load on this phone will be 2 yo in June. That's the kind of stability the Android OS platform is capable of. If you're constantly mucking with the firmware and software you'll never realize this potential. Forget the Google update hype and go with what works... and always redundantly backup critical data.
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Ahan we went after the new features so updated.
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I think usage of 500Mb can't effect the performance because it has 12 GB of RAM.
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I found it in Developer Options under Active Services "RAM-Status¨ . All my other Android devices (phones and tablets) consistently indicate around 15 MB... Average Ram usage for Android OS (3 hours) indicates 1,8 GB...
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I found it in Developer Options under Active Services "RAM-Status¨ . All my other Android devices (phones and tablets) consistently indicate around 15 MB... Average Ram usage for Android OS (3 hours) indicates 1,8 GB...
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Looking at this screenshot, Very similar results.
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Looking at this screenshot, Very similar results.
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Try going to Running Services instead.
.5 gb of ram usage? That's way too low.
Here it is.
blackhawk said:
Try going to Running Services instead.
.5 gb of ram usage? That's way too low.
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blackhawk said:
Try going to Running Services instead.
.5 gb of ram usage? That's way too low.
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Running services voor app Android System (after reboot) is 15 MB, but when the phone starts to stutter it is 500 MB....