I'm looking to use the watch active 2 as a flight computer for a model rocket and I was wondering if there is a was to get some kind of serial output from the watch unit. My plan is to use this to control additional hardware such as camera, parachute deployments etc. I would like to avoid using a blue-tooth connection as I feel it may be too unreliable for some feature. is there a diagnostic pad or chi charger command pass through that might be able to work for this?
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(Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's mind-bogglingly retarded.)
What we have with the SGS2 is remarkable - it's as powerful as a netbook, with video-out and USB host functionality.
It seems to me that carrying such a super-phone alongside a netbook would be a waste of money and effort, when the processor in the SGS2 is more than up to scratch.
So what would be the obstacles in making a "shell" that provided a laptop-like keyboard, mouse and screen, with an SGS2 where the processor, RAM and so on would normally be housed? (The SGS2 would be removable, of course.)
These are the ones I can think of:
USB/Bluetooth keyboard support - may have to be Bluetooth keyboard.
Touch input? (May have to be Bluetooth mouse, but mouse input is possible in Android)
Connecting a monitor and USB device through the same USB port (not necessary if keyboard/mouse are Bluetooth)
Battery life - just make the shell house a fat battery!
So let's say we could piece all that together - a keyboard, mouse, battery and screen in one shell. It could come out considerably cheaper and lighter than a netbook, with all the SGS2's media playback abilities, internet without having to tether, and no need to change apps when going from netbook to phone.
There's probably something I haven't thought of, but I couldn't resist posting.
Thoughts?
I would love to see something like this happen. The SGS2 will be my first Android phone, coming from WinMo, so I've no idea what is available or is possible with the OS. One reason I bought this phone was because I wanted to connect a Bluetooth keyboard (and mouse?) to it and keep it mounted on a dock or stand right below my two monitors at work, serving as an internet/chat/email computer, instead of taking my phone AND laptop to work every day.
Now I may be mistaken, but MHL doesn't support simultaneous USB and HDMI out, so if you wanted to connect input devices AND have monitor out, I'd guess the keyboard and mouse would have to be Bluetooth, as you've mentioned. One thing that interests me is something the Wiki entry mentions:
"The HDTV remote will control the connected device with guaranteed mixed manufacturer interoperability."
So perhaps one day we might see some SGS2 "lapdock" like the Atrix?
Check out what the guy says at 8:50 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
He says, basically, that he can connect the device to a tv through MHL, connect a BT keyboard and mouse, then sit back on his couch and use his device like a living room PC.
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Any news?
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
You won't be able to do a full netbook, because the microUSB connector on the SGS2 can be used either as microUSB or MHL (HDMI video out + charger input); the two functions of the connector are mutually exclusive. So, if you're piping the SGS2's video out to the shell's display, you have no USB, and if you're using the USB, there's no external video.
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
Hm, are you 100% sure about them being mutually exclusive?
GunnarKarlsson said:
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
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Interesting, but I would still prefer a full size keyboard.
How is it connected? USB? BT?
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3waygeek said:
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
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No idea how this can be realized. Afaik, there is a VNC client installed, but no server.
Guess it is easier to try what is mentioned above :
Use NHL to get the monitor working and BT for the keyboard. Would be good to have some profile, which enables the BT keyboard when NHL is plugged, maybe through locale or so.
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I know this thread is kinda old now, but some recent tech news brought this idea back to memory for me. ICE Computer showed a docking tablet they call Trinity at Computex 2011, which apparently can be made to dock with nearly any phone or even a PC module. I didn't find too much info that wasn't regurgitated between sites, but it sounds like they won't be selling it themselves, rather they'll sell it to other companies who want one for their device.
My hope is they'll sell some kind of universal version that takes different phones and maybe just requires a different-shaped module for different phones. Here's a link to the Engadget post, but there are other pages that describe what it does and when it should be available.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ice-computer-shows-off-trinity-modular-tablet-concept-aims-for/
Add a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, perhaps a stand, and voila!
Need a solution like this
1) MHL output to a tv/ monitor
2) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work over HID profile
3) Remote Desktop software that allows use of external keyboard and mouse and which can output native resolution rather than just mirroring the screen.
I own an 06 Jetta GLI with the Premium 7 radio. I'm currently using a Dension Gateway iPod adapter which displays track/browsing info on the MFI in the gauge cluster. Full browsing is accomplished via the steering wheel controls. It's very nice, and seamless. Here's a link to a video of it in action for reference purposes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-Q7ybcKKM:
While searching around for something similar for Android devices, I happened upon an adapter from Grom Audio. They claim it displays track/browsing info as well as plays music over bluetooth. Has anyone tried or heard about these?
Here'a a link to the Grom Audio unit.
http://gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/index.html
My main requirement is keeping the steering wheel controls, and existing head unit..
I have no affiliation with either of these companies.. Just trying to gather some info.
Thanks..
nothing new really, my 5 year old alpine just plugs into my phone via usb and finds the mp3s.. the newer units do it over bluetooth via an app, id be surprised if the modern oem radios didn't at least have usb connectivity
That's pretty neat. I have a 2013 Elantra and I can only stream the music at the radio. A readout of the artist, song name, etc, and the ability to fast forward with my wheel mounted controls would be nice.
Wow. That does look nice. I need to read more, but I do see my vehicle on the supported list. Kind of expensive, but if it works like it says, I might actually give it a shot.
Hey ddiehl,
I had a similar "issue" with my car.
I have an Ipod connector that I can control from the steering wheel.
So instead of using the ipod connector for an actual Ipod, I bought this bluetooth adapter:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ML-D100-Blu...513090?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4abaea8b02
Bluetooth ML-D100 => It cost from $30 to $45
I connected to the the ipod interface and connected my phone to the bluetooth.
I works very well in my case, but i don't have the same car.
I have an IS-250 with FlyAudio 2 Stereo System.
ddiehl said:
I own an 06 Jetta GLI with the Premium 7 radio. I'm currently using a Dension Gateway iPod adapter which displays track/browsing info on the MFI in the gauge cluster. Full browsing is accomplished via the steering wheel controls. It's very nice, and seamless. Here's a link to a video of it in action for reference purposes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-Q7ybcKKM:
While searching around for something similar for Android devices, I happened upon an adapter from Grom Audio. They claim it displays track/browsing info as well as plays music over bluetooth. Has anyone tried or heard about these?
Here'a a link to the Grom Audio unit.
http://gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/index.html
My main requirement is keeping the steering wheel controls, and existing head unit..
I have no affiliation with either of these companies.. Just trying to gather some info.
Thanks..
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Wow!
That's pretty cool actually. I was searching for something like that a few months back, but only came across this:
http://www.gtacarkits.com/
Works great for my iPod Video, but just has a line input for anything else. Kind of makes me want to sell that and get this, especially if I can integrate the iPod AND my S3 and control both with my steering wheel controls!! :laugh:
I would be curious to know the sound quality of this adapter, using either the bluetooth, line-in and/or iPod connectivity options. I know there were a lot of debates on the Mazda 3 forum between the various adapters and the GTA Car Kit was the best of the lot in all of my reading. Granted, we could assume that since it plugs straight into the back of the headunit, it should be great but I am still skeptical.
Anyone willing to be the guinea pig, get one and report back??
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nothing new really, my 5 year old alpine just plugs into my phone via usb and finds the mp3s.. the newer units do it over bluetooth via an app, id be surprised if the modern oem radios didn't at least have usb connectivity
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My 2011 accord has usb, and but will only support Apple devices. My gs3 shows up as "unsupported". I also have a 3.5mm jack, but then I can't use the radio or steering wheel controls. This generation of Accords never had bluetooth audio, only voice.
I have tried bluetooth audio converters, and but they seem laggy and slow. The two (one was a blackberry, and can't remember the other) I tried, I returned.
I can load music to an usb stick, but there are no folders, just the song titles. This is annoying as my old iphone would let me sort by song, artist, album or play list. I drive a lot, and this is becoming very annoying. So much that I'm actually tempted to go buy the biggest gb ipod I can get, just to have easy accessibility to my digital library in my car.
So if someone has a solution that costs less than an ipod, and does not require me taking the dash apart, I'm all ears!
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My Pioneer unit has a usb that was made specifically for ipod. When you plug it in it says unsupported, but still allows me to play the songs from my GS3. It also has Bluetooth though so its not really an issue for me.
I ended up buying a Parrot MKI9200. Bluetooth telephony and music streaming. It says it is made for iphone but works better with my S3 than it did with my old iphone 4.
http://www.parrot.com/usa/products/bluetooth-hands-free-car-kits/parrot-mki9200
Does not work?
They typically require drivers and emulates a serial which I don't think android handles.
I thought of this myself as I need serial to program network gear. Would be awesome to get a serial terminal emulator working.
I even though of a Bluetooth/serial dongle, but I don't know how that would work with terminals either.
Doing a quick search on Google, there seem to be lots of Bluetooth terminals that support a Bluetooth serial port. That would totally be awesome but most likely require some sort of battery for power since I'm not sure if a serial port would provide enough to power the Bluetooth.
Serial Bluetooth Devices seem expensive too.
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I have a motorcycle with a car stereo amplifier and I want to use a Windows 8 tablet (lenovo miix2 8) as my head unit/navigation.
◘My goal for this thread is to come up with a solution that uses the fewest amount of wires connected to the tablet.
◘I need to be able to charge the tablet and stream audio to my amp at the same time.
◘Ideas of products that might work:
1. Is having one USB cord going to the tablet, which it would send audio to like a sound card or something similar, and also charge it at the same time.
2. USB used just for charging, and use a bluetooth audio receiver for the amp.
3. I doubt there are compact products that could do this, but a wireless charge pad + a bluetooth audio reciveier to the amp(no wires at all).
(optional product, some kind of remote with a few basic buttons that would let change tracks or volume)
I honestly don't know anything about how usb ports work on tablets in general, but I think my tablet does allow for a device to be attached to it and charged at the same time, but I dont know for sure.
Any suggestions for products I may be able to make one of my three options work?
I have had awful experience with Bluetooth for this situation. I can get it to connect to one BT device after a reboot, but if I want to swap to another BT device I have to reboot again. Sometimes I can get it to reconnect to a different device without a reboot but it requires so much fiddling and just waiting for the bloody thing to stop trying to connect to a device that isn't there, that a reboot is always the fastest and most assured option.
I love the concept of Bluetooth, but its usability renders it almost useless IMHO.
usb seem best
I think usb is gonna give you better sound. Not much, but will do the job
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I own a SEAT IBIZA car with Android Auto and Mirror-Link features.
I'm curious to know if there is a possible way to read some information Via CANBUS protocol like RPM, Speed, Oil temperature etc.
through the original USB plug and not from the OBD II.
Thanks in advance!
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I own a SEAT IBIZA car with Android Auto and Mirror-Link features.
I'm curious to know if there is a possible way to read some information Via CANBUS protocol like RPM, Speed, Oil temperature etc.
through the original USB plug and not from the OBD II.
Thanks in advance!
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Of course there is! Not everyone uses those damned rigged* Autel DS708 scantools anymore (even though they have been the gold standard for years, the UI has always been such a......tool.) VAG makes a scanner (not a code reader) that has a USB adapter for some foreign and domestic higher end vehicles.
Just do a Web search for a diagnostic auto scanner with USB adapters, or for the cars with USB diagnostic ports (sometimes they hide diag ports under the hood, too) - I threw it into a Google search and the Seat Ibiza was just the first car I came up with, followed by several scanners with matching port adapters.
Not to sound like a heifer, but finding a tech who is savvy enough to be able to tell the difference between a 16-pin OBD2 port and a USB port is a boon in and of itself. You'd do well to find a well rounded tech with a some history in electronics (wave forms are a marvelous thing when applied to the dynamics of an internal combustion engine and it's components!)
Automotive technicians are a rapidly changing group of people, with those who can't make the cut quickly fall by the wayside, so just be politely persistent about your needs, and [eventually] you may run across someone who specializes [which can be costly] or someone who has enough general knowledge to put a scanner to good use.
Just don't pay a ton of money for the "service" of plugging a scanner in and reading codes or resetting your sun roof - dealerships escalate the costs tremendously, but with intelligent scanners running anywhere from several hundred to several thousand dollars, I'd look for a smaller shop or individual. For what some of the dealers/specialists charge to plug in a scanner you could buy your own scantool!!
All that said, check with your favorite garage and inquire about the make/model of their scanner. The techs who stay up to date may charge a bit more for diagnostics, but it makes the repair a LOT less expensive when they can pinpoint the issues right away, and most are quick to offer up their services to show off that shiny new gadget that can read the cars' minds.
Depending on where you are, I may be able to offer a connect through a tech in your area. They may or may not have a scanner or a friend who does, but I don't mind asking if you'd like.
Good luck!
CC~
EDITED TO ADD: *The Autel Maxidas DS708 is, and has been planned as a terminal application, neatly coinciding with the termination date of Wince 6.x. Want more info? Drop me a line.