(Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's mind-bogglingly retarded.)
What we have with the SGS2 is remarkable - it's as powerful as a netbook, with video-out and USB host functionality.
It seems to me that carrying such a super-phone alongside a netbook would be a waste of money and effort, when the processor in the SGS2 is more than up to scratch.
So what would be the obstacles in making a "shell" that provided a laptop-like keyboard, mouse and screen, with an SGS2 where the processor, RAM and so on would normally be housed? (The SGS2 would be removable, of course.)
These are the ones I can think of:
USB/Bluetooth keyboard support - may have to be Bluetooth keyboard.
Touch input? (May have to be Bluetooth mouse, but mouse input is possible in Android)
Connecting a monitor and USB device through the same USB port (not necessary if keyboard/mouse are Bluetooth)
Battery life - just make the shell house a fat battery!
So let's say we could piece all that together - a keyboard, mouse, battery and screen in one shell. It could come out considerably cheaper and lighter than a netbook, with all the SGS2's media playback abilities, internet without having to tether, and no need to change apps when going from netbook to phone.
There's probably something I haven't thought of, but I couldn't resist posting.
Thoughts?
I would love to see something like this happen. The SGS2 will be my first Android phone, coming from WinMo, so I've no idea what is available or is possible with the OS. One reason I bought this phone was because I wanted to connect a Bluetooth keyboard (and mouse?) to it and keep it mounted on a dock or stand right below my two monitors at work, serving as an internet/chat/email computer, instead of taking my phone AND laptop to work every day.
Now I may be mistaken, but MHL doesn't support simultaneous USB and HDMI out, so if you wanted to connect input devices AND have monitor out, I'd guess the keyboard and mouse would have to be Bluetooth, as you've mentioned. One thing that interests me is something the Wiki entry mentions:
"The HDTV remote will control the connected device with guaranteed mixed manufacturer interoperability."
So perhaps one day we might see some SGS2 "lapdock" like the Atrix?
Check out what the guy says at 8:50 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
He says, basically, that he can connect the device to a tv through MHL, connect a BT keyboard and mouse, then sit back on his couch and use his device like a living room PC.
Bump...
Any news?
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
You won't be able to do a full netbook, because the microUSB connector on the SGS2 can be used either as microUSB or MHL (HDMI video out + charger input); the two functions of the connector are mutually exclusive. So, if you're piping the SGS2's video out to the shell's display, you have no USB, and if you're using the USB, there's no external video.
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
Hm, are you 100% sure about them being mutually exclusive?
GunnarKarlsson said:
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
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Interesting, but I would still prefer a full size keyboard.
How is it connected? USB? BT?
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You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
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No idea how this can be realized. Afaik, there is a VNC client installed, but no server.
Guess it is easier to try what is mentioned above :
Use NHL to get the monitor working and BT for the keyboard. Would be good to have some profile, which enables the BT keyboard when NHL is plugged, maybe through locale or so.
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I know this thread is kinda old now, but some recent tech news brought this idea back to memory for me. ICE Computer showed a docking tablet they call Trinity at Computex 2011, which apparently can be made to dock with nearly any phone or even a PC module. I didn't find too much info that wasn't regurgitated between sites, but it sounds like they won't be selling it themselves, rather they'll sell it to other companies who want one for their device.
My hope is they'll sell some kind of universal version that takes different phones and maybe just requires a different-shaped module for different phones. Here's a link to the Engadget post, but there are other pages that describe what it does and when it should be available.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ice-computer-shows-off-trinity-modular-tablet-concept-aims-for/
Add a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, perhaps a stand, and voila!
Need a solution like this
1) MHL output to a tv/ monitor
2) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work over HID profile
3) Remote Desktop software that allows use of external keyboard and mouse and which can output native resolution rather than just mirroring the screen.
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Hi everyone... as I mentioned in the title, I need a keyboard for my Prophet, and I'm not quite sure as to what the possibilities are in terms of connections...
Can I use PS2 or USB via an adapter to Mini-USB? Or am I limited to Bluetooth keyboards? Any suggestions as to certain models?
Thanks in advance!
PS2-USB / USB keyboard is certainly a no no. Bluetooth is definately workable, but I think there are these IR keyboard as well. Do a ebay check on these.. there are some for PDA in general, but maybe works for Prophet. Have a try.
Hmmm, I suppose the USB-Nono is because of the missing USB Host in the Prophet? Or is there something I'm missing?
The problem with Bluetooth keyboards, of course, is that they're so expensive... does the Apple Bluetooth keyboard work with the Prophet? It's pretty much the cheapest one available over here in Germany (~60 Euros).
Yes, the missing USB host. And yes, bluetooth keyboards are expensive and you also have the issue of having another device to charge.
I'm not sure about the Apple bluetooth keyboard .. as it being an Apple product, which is quite 'close' (i.e. you can't use the Apple USB mouse/keyboard on a PC, I think). You'll need to do you own research.
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I'm not sure about the Apple bluetooth keyboard .. as it being an Apple product, which is quite 'close' (i.e. you can't use the Apple USB mouse/keyboard on a PC, I think). You'll need to do you own research.
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Untrue. Apple keyboards and mice have worked in Windows since about Win 98. I know they work in XP for a fact, no additional drivers required.
I think that as long as any bluetooth keyboard supports the HID profile, it will work in our Windows Mobile devices.
I've attempted to pair my Apple BT keyboard with both my Treo 750v and my HTC Advantage (both WM5).
In both cases, the pairing works OK and the keyboard offers the "Input Device" service. However, I can't get the keyboard to actually do anything beyond this point. The bluetooth icon on the 750v shows that bluetooth is inactive and it doesn't keep a live connection open to the keyboard.
I don't know that it is anything to do with the Apple keyboard but I've not used other BT keyboards to know how it should work. The keyboard pairs and operates perfectly fine with my PS3, for instance, so I don't think it is in any way the device doing anything strange.
How do you get normal HID compliant BT keyboards to work with WM5?
I just got a perfect keyboard for my Prophet last December.
Its a Think Outside (Igo) stowaway BT keyboard. Got it for $30 from amazon.com during Xmas sale. Right now they sell it for around $60.
It works perfectly and it has a PDA stand built in which fits the Prophet nicely. I cannot stress more about the ease of use and quality of the keyboard which is very close compare to laptop keyboard.
I like the power management feature which turns on the keyboard automatically when you open it up and then turns off when you fold it or after there is no activity for certain period of time. It uses two AAA batteries, I wish it uses rechargeable battery with the same mini USB port like the prophet. But so far, I'm impressive with the battery life.
I do not how long the battery will last, but it has been a month and the battery is still good.
Looked around to find more info but couldn't find quite what I was looking for. First off, I wanted to confirm that any bluetooth keyboard/mouse should be compatible with the Atrix. Second, (assuming the first was correct...) I wanted to hear if people have tried other keyboards/mice with the Atrix. I'm assuming that the android related keys found on the official motorola keyboard are still available on normal keyboards, just labeled differently?
Thanks in advance!
Do we really need bluetooth? What about a usb hub and wireless kb / mouse? I don't own a bluetooth kb and mouse so dropping $100 on these is almost pointless. Anyone try this method yet:
micro usb ----> usb adapter ----> usb hub -------> usb kb /usb mouse
Either way... basically just trying to find other options for the webtop. I looked around and found out that I was mistaken about the pricing on bluetooth keyboards and mice. Apparently the Motorola keyboard/mouse aren't too ridiculously priced compared to other bluetooth options. I still feel like I could justify a regular keyboard more because I could still use it for a computer or something. Can't help but feel the moto keyboard would go unused aside from the atrix.
I'm one adapter short of testing the hub idea, I'll let you know sometime this week if it works. Right now I'm just using it with the virtual trackpad/kb...
If anyone wants to try this here is a USB gender changer that should allow you to plug a hub into the phone (for a usb keyboard/mouse) using the included micro usb cord. even tough its ~$3.00 I dont care about webtop enough to try it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
Just tried my razer Orochi blue tooft mouse when docked in the laptop dock and it paired right up and works perfect
So if this mouse works i would think any one will work.
Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, if that's the way you roll. The media buttons on the keyboard will even fire up the music player on the phone. Brightness buttons don't do anything though.
It looks like the Atrix's own bluetooth keyboard is quite nice quality and very compact. does anyone have it that can give us a little review of it? I wouldn't mind using it as my main keyboard for my desktop.
Does anyone have the apple BT keyboard running on a windows 7 system? does it work well?
Logitech DiNovo Edge successfully paired with Atrix
I successfully paired my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard with my Atrix today and hooked the phone up to my TV via HDMI. Worked perfectly. Loved having the connection mod without needing a dock. Was able to do a lot from the couch
The DiNovo Edge has a built in mouse pad and is very sturdy and high quality. One of my all time favorite keyboard/mouse combo's.
Hope this helps.
I had actually looked at the edge in the past... seems like it would be a good pairing for the Atrix. Might have to give that a try. I just need to justify the cost to myself.
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I had actually looked at the edge in the past... seems like it would be a good pairing for the Atrix. Might have to give that a try. I just need to justify the cost to myself.
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If you don't mind the size it's, imho, perfect. I have a few other BT keyboards I'm going to try to pair when I get time...if I get a chance I'll report back.
Where can you buy the Motorola keyboard?
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If anyone wants to try this here is a USB gender changer that should allow you to plug a hub into the phone (for a usb keyboard/mouse) using the included micro usb cord. even tough its ~$3.00 I dont care about webtop enough to try it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
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That's not the right adapter at all... you need a female A -> male micro for one device, or however you want to then convert the other side. I'm waiting on that part then mine goes from that to a mini usb into my hub. might not work but we'll see.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023FTRUO
Well non-bt doesn't work for me at least. I'm sure we just have to load a driver or something. I tried atrix -> male micro usb -> regual usb female -> male usb -> mini usb -> hub. It should be noted it was a powered usb hub. My mouse plugged into the hub didn't work, so I gave up haha.
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Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, if that's the way you roll. The media buttons on the keyboard will even fire up the music player on the phone. Brightness buttons don't do anything though.
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Have you tried the apple keyboard in webtop mode I can't get it to work at all but if I connect it to the phone before that it works fine it's kind of weird
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Was just reading a post on gizmodo about best wireless keyboards link here... and finally found good use to my lenovo bluetooth keyboard sitting in the closet... it paired up with my phone absolutely no problem, now I can take notes and type like never before...
Take that, tiny blackberry keyboard.
Done it with a Logitech Android Bluetooth keyboard and a Thermaltake Bluetooth mouse. Awaiting arrival of my MHL adapter so I can hook up to a spare monitor.
going to buy a asus, transformer prime for that!
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Done it with a Logitech Android Bluetooth keyboard and a Thermaltake Bluetooth mouse. Awaiting arrival of my MHL adapter so I can hook up to a spare monitor.
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I'm also tempted by this concept. I think there would be a transition period where I moved all of my media and everyday use to my phone (with a keyboard and mouse and full size monitor)...and I bet it would be rapid and I'd only keep my PC for the only thing anyone uses PCs for anymore: Content production.
The only time I *need* a PC is for work stuff: Photoshop, Vegas, excel. Also Audition and a few other pro audio apps out of work...and I'm sure the excel thing could be taken out the the equation pretty quickly.
Everything else? Media consumption, web browsers, communications, etc...all on the phone and/or tablet now. To be able to take my main computer with me would be fantastic...it would also make PocketCloud infinitely more useful on a full screen with a full desktop interface (kb/mouse/full screen).
This is going to happen. Between "the cloud" and our own smaller clouds (home networks, SAN/NAS/Home Servers, media sharing hardware, etc) keeping a quad core 300-500 watt behemoth around is getting less and less necessary.
The only grey area so far is 'games', but, most people consume those on game consoles so that's likely a moot point.
...an interesting time to be alive in many ways, technology especially.
Yeah I did this as well. I never could pair it to my original epic.
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Do we need a Bluetooth USB received or do they pair directly with the phone?
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djjosh said:
Do we need a Bluetooth USB received or do they pair directly with the phone?
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Mine does it directly from the phone. So easy. Just do it like u normally would and then enter the passsworr that it makes up on the keyboard and then it pairs and connects.
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Has anyone found a work around for the home button on the logitech tablet keyboard??? MY home button on my keyboard does not do anything. I have tried a combination of other buttons to see if i could get the same action with no luck. just wondering if anyone eles has had any luck???
I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. HDMI MHL adapter.
But why? They make a pc for that.
Gs3 is not very powerful and you won't have good resolution. Productivity will be minimal.
If you want a mobile PC grab a windows 8 tablet like the surface pro.
Do you want a desktop or a mobile device?
You could buy a transformer type tablet or build a desktop for pretty cheap.
If you want this to be mobile, that's a lot of crap to carry around... How would you even power the screen? Seems like those people who bring desktops to coffee shops.
If you want a desktop, you can come build or buy one that's much more powerful for not all that much more than the cost of hooking your phone up - and then you don't have to worry about battery life draining and overheating.
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I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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You guys don't quiet get it. I have a powerful desktop replacement and a netbook.
But I like the idea of having all this in my pocket and just plugging into a workstation at home.
And a Microsoft Surface? EEWWwwwww.
It is possible, I'm using WD Live, no keyboard use tho, but I can stream YouTube or play files from my phone onto tv using wd and some other UpnP apps.
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Lmao, idk why I thought this comment was hilarious
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I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for --> https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIm9yZy52aWRlb21hcC5kcm9pZG1vdGVjbGllbnQiXQ..
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I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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If you want to be able to just plug it into yet another set of hardware at home... just go buy the stuff and plug it in.
Bluetooth is still a better deal than wired keyboard/mouse - but you still have the battery drain issue, which is why this is not a practical idea - especially since we're talking about an S3. It should be able to accept hardware input through the micro usb, but it's not really designed for that - and you'd have to get adapters and hub and why have all that crap taking up space if you already have a home system ? I wonder what would happen if you had three pieces of hardware trying to use the same micro-usb input, too (obviously, hubs work, but they have to share - and the monitor is going to want a lot of the available transfer capacity for itself) - makes more sense to just use it for HDMI to the monitor and use bluetooth for the peripherals.
If you had a phone that could run off AC only, it might fare better - since there'd be no battery constantly charging and draining and heating everything up, but the S3 won't do that.
Cool idea in theory ? Yeah. It would be great. But in practice, not so much. It would be better if the S3 could run from AC only - heck, it'd be almost a good idea. But since it can't and it lacks great cooling (since it's a compact, air-cooled phone), you're just going to be exposing the phone to high operating temperatures for extended periods of time which isn't exactly great for it.
I will be getting Android mini-PC (Android TV) stick, waiting for this one: http://dx.com/p/cozyswan-mk809-ii-a...b-ram-8gb-rom-wi-fi-tf-bluetooth-black-185736 . The purpose was to see how I can convert my older TV into multimedia station for internet and streaming from laptop, etc.. While I'm waiting, I started to think if there are any advantages of connecting it to Note 2? I don't know much about these android-on-a-stick devices to even think how it could be used. I assume it will be a host, so if I connect Note 2 with usb cable (non-OTG) it will be accepted as peripheral device so I can stream pictures, movies, etc. through android-on-a-stick on tv? That does sound kind of redundant since I can probably do the same thing from a stick itself, but I'm also thinking even with Android 4.1 the stick will not have access to Play store and I'm not sure if I will be able to root it.
I just don't know what to expect. I know it should work connecting directly to tv hdmi port (of my cable box hdmi port?), but I want to come up with something cool where I can connect Note 2 to is as well. Probably on the go I can tether this stick to my Note 2 4G connection, and have it as stand-alone mini PC. But if I want to connect it to Note 2 (as a display), would it work if I get HDMI (female) to micro-usb cable?
Anyway, any ideas or thoughts - let me know, even if you think its a stupid idea to begin with. Either way, once I have it and play around with it, I will do some kind of a write up with pictures
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vectron said:
I will be getting Android mini-PC (Android TV) stick, waiting for this one: http://dx.com/p/cozyswan-mk809-ii-a...b-ram-8gb-rom-wi-fi-tf-bluetooth-black-185736 . The purpose was to see how I can convert my older TV into multimedia station for internet and streaming from laptop, etc.. While I'm waiting, I started to think if there are any advantages of connecting it to Note 2? I don't know much about these android-on-a-stick devices to even think how it could be used. I assume it will be a host, so if I connect Note 2 with usb cable (non-OTG) it will be accepted as peripheral device so I can stream pictures, movies, etc. through android-on-a-stick on tv? That does sound kind of redundant since I can probably do the same thing from a stick itself, but I'm also thinking even with Android 4.1 the stick will not have access to Play store and I'm not sure if I will be able to root it.
I just don't know what to expect. I know it should work connecting directly to tv hdmi port (of my cable box hdmi port?), but I want to come up with something cool where I can connect Note 2 to is as well. Probably on the go I can tether this stick to my Note 2 4G connection, and have it as stand-alone mini PC. But if I want to connect it to Note 2 (as a display), would it work if I get HDMI (female) to micro-usb cable?
Anyway, any ideas or thoughts - let me know, even if you think its a stupid idea to begin with. Either way, once I have it and play around with it, I will do some kind of a write up with pictures
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Hello, if you're planning on buying an android stick, why invest in a dual core one when the quad core sticks are out, check the link below
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...188-2G-DDR3-Wifi-Bluetooth-TV-BOX-314524.html
i am not sure about new ways to connect it to the Note 2, but the traditional ways is to puch pictures/videos/music via DLNA
it would be interesting to know whether you can mirror the Note 2 screen to the android stick similar to apple TV
The CozySwan is basically an android device. Think of it like a tablet without a screen. So basically you'll just need to attach it to your tv (via hdmi) and you're ready to go (Well, it might need a mouse or keyboard to operate it). So attaching it to the Note 2 would be redundant. You can use the Note 2 just like the CozySwan. Attach it to your tv (via hdmi) and use either a bluetooth mouse or keyboard. If you get the smart dock then there are more possibilities.
Check out this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nh2NSLgaII&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I like this video of the smart dock as it explains a lot of what it can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy3wETf5o0
as well as this video of the OTG, MHL, and other accessories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IiRyigUH0
Thanks guys! I guess no other special trick with that stick other than what I have already expected. In theory this $48 android stick can replace functionality of $99 smart dock and add more stuff to it (wireless kbd/mouse instead of bt), etc. I guess will play around with it once I get it.
I didnt even check to see who was the op.... you dabble in these things so maybe you can show us whats up when you get it...
Review of MK809-II Android TV with lots of pics!!!
Since I already started this topic and didn't know where it will take me, I wanted to post an update since I actually got that Android TV dongle and found it to be pretty cool. Maybe I will try to figure out how to make it work with Note 2, because for $48 it's cheaper then Samsung multimedia dock and offers way too many other options
So, this is a Review of MR809-II Android TV dongle: http://dx.com/p/cozyswan-mk809-ii-a...b-ram-8gb-rom-wi-fi-tf-bluetooth-black-185736
After reviewing numerous accessories for N2/N7/S4, I'm switching my gears and decided to do a project of converting my tv into "smart tv". If you think about, that's what the whole Google TV is about - taking your regular old TV and bringing it up to a new level with an enhanced option of Android and the same benefits you get from your Smart phone or tablet. I didn't want to buy any old gen stuff with overheating problems and those old AC adapters with round connector, or something that will cripple my use by not allowing access to Google Play, etc.
The unit I received came packaged very nicely with a lot of bonus connections. The main Android dongle measures about 110mm x 40mm x 10mm and weights about 34g. In addition to that, you get HDMI extension cable just in case if you don't have easy access to plug the stick into the back/side of your TV. It also came with OTG adapter with micro-usb to full USB connection which can turn the spare micro-usb port on the stick into another "host" to allow connection of other peripheral devices without a need for a hub. And you also get a quality AC adapter with a full 2A output to use usb to micro-usb cable to power up the device. I noticed older generation device were using round plug wall adapter which always a drag to carry around. This device, you can use ANY of your smart phone ac charging adapters, as long as it 2A (like the one which came with Note 2).
Now, about the spec of the device. This one uses RK3066 CPU, dual core Cortex-A9 with clock speed up to 1.6GHz; 1GB of DDR3 memory, and 8GB of internal memory which can be expanded further with micro-sd card (from a built in slot). The built quality seems to be decent, not flimsy at all; it looks like a big usb stick with a cap over HDMI port. Also, I noticed the back has vents for additional cooling. While using it, I haven't noticed too much overheating. The device supports WiFi and Bluetooth, and I had no issues with it's connections. I have my router on the first floor while I was testing it with a tv in our bedroom on the second floor, pretty far away. For interface, I was using Anker mini keyboard (candy bar type of BT keyboard with a touch pad). At first to initialize it I had wired mouse plugged into USB host port (no need for OTG adapter, goes right into full size USB port labeled "host" on the stick) to pair up with BT device. Once I did it the first time, afterwards mouse was unplugged and I was using mini BT keyboard to control it.
The stick came preloaded with Android 4.1.1 and full access to Google Play!!! I was very pleased with that since I know a lot of cheap tablets don't have access to Google Play and you have to side load your apps. Not with this device. I signed in with my Google account, and was able to get to Play right away. Also, with its file manager, I was able to connect to other devices shared on my wifi, such as network hard drive. I have seen some people complaining about wifi connection with their MK809-II, but let me reassure you the one I got worked perfectly. It also supports every possible audio, video, music, and picture format under the sun.
Overall, setup was very easy where within minutes I was running full tablet interface on my TV. This is my first Android TV experience and I was very pleased with the results.
Here are some pictures to ago along with my review:
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i have the imeto one i have xbmc i it awesome setup
Just out of curiosity.. Do you think the App TabletRemote will work with this? It'll be cool to use your phone as the remote. I haven't tried the app myself so I don't even know how it works.
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Just out of curiosity.. Do you think the App TabletRemote will work with this? It'll be cool to use your phone as the remote. I haven't tried the app myself so I don't even know how it works.
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Never heard of it, gotta try it out!
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Just out of curiosity.. Do you think the App TabletRemote will work with this? It'll be cool to use your phone as the remote. I haven't tried the app myself so I don't even know how it works.
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Tmart mini HDMI 2 AV converter
I decided to take my setup one step further to see how I can convert my dinosaur TV into smart TV. I still have to try out that app to use Note 2 as a tablet remote controller, but in this review I would like to talk about taking my previous setup of Android on a stick and turning an old tube tv into a smart tv with a help of this little gadget: http://www.tmart.com/MINI-HDMI-to-AV-CVBS-to-RCA-Converter_p163569.html
It's hard to believe TVs without HDMI input ever existed lol!!! But if you have one in your house which has lasted your for 10+ years and still working great, you are stuck with AV inputs as the only mean of connecting any peripheral devices. So if you got yourself a shiny new smart phone with HDMI dock or have Android-on-a-stick device to turn your tv into a big screen tablet - there is NOTHING you can do without converting HDMI into Analog audio/video. This kind of converter box becoming extinct, just like all those TVs, so its really hard to find one for a reasonable price. The one I got is the cheapest I found for about $40 shipped in US or internationally from Tmart.com. If you are in US, make sure to select "us warehouse" shipping from location, that one ships from NJ. Otherwise, you gonna end up waiting for awhile if it ships from HK.
I was a little nervous with this one because I saw an output with a typical red/white audio and yellow for video but video said "CVBS". But it worked flawlessly. First of all, it's a tiny little box I weighted to be 40g (1.4 oz) and about 60mm x 55mm x 20mm. You get full size HDMI input, AV RCA connector output, and PAL/NTSC switch for your video signal (so you are covered for both US and EU), and mini-usb input for power. It comes with mini-usb to USB cable in case if you don't have one considering everything switched to micro-usb, and also instruction booklet. As you can see, plugged in my Android stick, hook up wires going to TV, switched to NTSC and thats ALL! You DO NOT even need to power it up with external cable!!!!!!! I can only guess it gets its power from HDMI pins of Android stick since those are powered up. Of course, we are talking about HD widescreen output intended for a tablet going to 4:3 ancient tv so the image is squeezed on the sides. But it has nothing to do with a conversion, but rather with different "display resolution".
I know in this day'n'age of HD TVs it's hard to believe there is TV without HDMI input. But if you still have an old TV without HDMI input and don't want to throw it away, you can breath in a new life for $40 Remember, you can just plugin your Note 2 or any other smart phone with usb to hdmi adapter or from your multimedia cradle.
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Those boxes are handy, especially connecting an older projector into a ps3. How is the performance of the stick? Give it a few benchmark runs. Thinking about getting one of these myself.
xartic12 said:
Those boxes are handy, especially connecting an older projector into a ps3. How is the performance of the stick? Give it a few benchmark runs. Thinking about getting one of these myself.
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Which benchmark app do you want me to run?
Yes, the box definitely comes handy. I seen also another one, I believe on Tmart.com as well where you convert AV back to HDMI. This way you can connect old WII console to a new tv. I was very pleased that no external power was required to this box, and it stayed cool (no overheating).
Still need to get around to try using Note 2 as a remote tablet controller. That would be ultimate!!!
3d mark and antutu would be appreciated.
vectron said:
Still need to get around to try using Note 2 as a remote tablet controller. That would be ultimate!!!
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Been using the Minix G4 version of what you bought. Its been the best thing for my smart(less) plasma since hooking it up! Rooted and running a custom jellybean rom and havnt looked back since!
I credit Sony PS3 DRM for forcing me to put an Android box on my plasma. I have never been happier since. Thanks Sony!
As for using the Note as a remote, grab yourelf a copy of Droidmote - both (client and server).
I looked Droidmore app and it seems that Client side app is free while Server side app is paid. Not a problem, but Server side requires a root which I wasn't planning to do. So, I went to TabletRemote and it DID the trick!!!! It took a bit to configure. Need to install the same app on your Note 2 and Android stick connected to tv. Both have to be on wifi. Then, in Connection need to make Android stick to be Discoverable while on Note 2 scan for devices. Once they will auto-discover each other and display a pop-up with a matching code - click on pair up and you are done. The app on the phone is arranged as a remote in portrait or a game-pad controller in landscape. As a remote you have 4-direction arrow control with Enter - this will enable you to step through icons, folders, screens on a system hosted by Android stick. You also get menu, return, and home buttons, as well as search and keyboard (for typing) buttons. Plus you get full multimedia control with play/pause, forward, back, and volume control.
Very impressive and it's free!
That's good to know. Thanks for updating.
I have the latest quad core stick and these things are great. Vectron have you rooted or updated your firmware to 4.2?
Not sure about vectrons model but apparently these sticks supports phone mirroring now if you are running the latest firmware on your phone. All the sticks mk##, QC## are the same.
To anyone who wants the official remote app you can find it here:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.ph...-rockchip-base-android-tv-stick/#.UZuVIqIQayg
Firmware upgrades and root can be found here:
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.php/firmware-download/
And if you are interested in an air mouse/keyboard this one works great. I must say this remote works much better than my lg and Samsung remote which came with my smart TV.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Mele...Android-smart-TV-HD-Computer-HTPC-306590.html
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Hey I just bought this naughty little gadget and very excited to use it. Quick question though, will I need to purchase a wireless/wired mouse to set it up or..? I wanted to install droidmote and use my Note 2 as a wireless mouse, but then I realized that I will need something to navigate to playstore and install DM app. I just never had to use Android Tv's so pardon me folks.