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Hi Guys,
Recently reverted back to Android from iOS. I have had low end and mid range Android devices for development purposes as well as a Windows Phone devices all the way through.
Since taking up the HTC M8 as my day to day device, I have been noticing issues (teeth grindingly frustrating issues) regarding touch screen accuracy and responsiveness.
A prime example of this is when using a browser (Any browser, on both GPE and Sense editions). When making a pinch to zoom gestures, my fingers can move almost half an inch apart before the actual zoom process begins. I have tested this on a Samsung GS4 and found this not to be the case on that device. I believe the root cause of this problem is also behind the poor accuracy when typing on *any* keyboard (i find myself re-writing words again and again despite the larger screen size, you'd expect larger on screen keys would equal less frequent miss stokes...). Again this is not the case on the GS4.
I have used a multitouch testing tool to gauge some measure of response time and touch latency. I have found when moving points at any rate of velocity they begin to lag quite substantially behind my finger. I don't know if this is part of the same problem.
I am wondering if anyone could shed light on whether this is an issue with display touch sensitivity settings, something which could be changed at the kernel level or a limitation with the hardware itself,
Is it also possible that the same algorithm used to detect and handle touch for devices with smaller screen real estate is still being used and that the distances and tolerances for touch and gesture recognition are acting proportionally to the screen size.
Hopefully this is something we can fix, it makes the device tiresome to type with and feel clunky and unresponsive.
The screen on this phone has a higher touch response then the iPhone
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Go in a store and check out another phone. If yours turns out to be defective (which should be the case), you should get it replaced
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No issues with mine.it's better than iPhone5s I had. Which had some issues sensing touch on corners of display
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sabianadmin said:
Hi Guys,
Recently reverted back to Android from iOS. I have had low end and mid range Android devices for development purposes as well as a Windows Phone devices all the way through.
Since taking up the HTC M8 as my day to day device, I have been noticing issues (teeth grindingly frustrating issues) regarding touch screen accuracy and responsiveness.
A prime example of this is when using a browser (Any browser, on both GPE and Sense editions). When making a pinch to zoom gestures, my fingers can move almost half an inch apart before the actual zoom process begins. I have tested this on a Samsung GS4 and found this not to be the case on that device. I believe the root cause of this problem is also behind the poor accuracy when typing on *any* keyboard (i find myself re-writing words again and again despite the larger screen size, you'd expect larger on screen keys would equal less frequent miss stokes...). Again this is not the case on the GS4.
I have used a multitouch testing tool to gauge some measure of response time and touch latency. I have found when moving points at any rate of velocity they begin to lag quite substantially behind my finger. I don't know if this is part of the same problem.
I am wondering if anyone could shed light on whether this is an issue with display touch sensitivity settings, something which could be changed at the kernel level or a limitation with the hardware itself,
Is it also possible that the same algorithm used to detect to handle touch for devices with smaller screen real estate is still being used and that the distances and tolerances for touch and gesture recognition are acting proportionally to the screen size.
Hopefully this is something we can fix, it makes the device tiresome to type with and feel clunky and unresponsive.
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If you have just moved from the iPhone, then this is a slight orientation problem ... and actually the M8 is the nearest you can get in terms of responsiveness to an iPhone, thanks to the fastest screen response time on the market ... for keyboard, you need to deliberately slow your finger speed down for few days and then you get used to it ... Screen/phone size also play a part in your typing because your mind can remember sub-consciously how much finger movement to do for typing ..
All the above is assuming you were an avid typist for long time on an iPhone
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If you have just moved from the iPhone, then this is a slight orientation problem ... and actually the M8 is the nearest you can get in terms of responsiveness to an iPhone, thanks to the fastest screen response time on the market ... for keyboard, you need to deliberately slow your finger speed down for few days and then you get used to it ... Screen/phone size also play a part in your typing because your mind can remember sub-consciously how much finger movement to do for typing ..
All the above is assuming you were an avid typist for long time on an iPhone
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Thanks for all the replies, it is likely that its a transitional issue alright. But before i write it off as such, can anyone verify the issues regarding pinch to zoom? Just trying to figure out if it is a faulty device i have on my hands or not
I get the exactly the same issues. I really thought it was me .
However I had the HTC One M7 and had no issue whatsoever.
LG G2 also same no issues .But since getting
HTC One M8, the touch accuracy is well absolutely useless. I am forever correcting what I type.
I don't think its the hardware but something to do with the Algorithm..No matter what keyboard you use or calibration you do. doesn't make any difference
I am hoping that lollipop cures this problem..
My touch accuracy has always been great. I'd say that if yours isn't it's a hardware problem.
Lostatsea23 said:
The screen on this phone has a higher touch response then the iPhone
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I tried the m8 and iphone 6 instore and compared them. The m8 screen is very sensitive, requiring minimal touch to be activated. This may be why tests are showing that the m8 has a faster touch response. However, when dragging your finger along the screen, such as swiping launcher screens, the iphone is more responsive.
I then tested "show touches" on the m8, the touch lags behind my finger.
Hello all,
I´d like to know, if there is some way of ajdusting scrolling friction on rooted Pixel 3 XL? I like the phone very much (testing it with S10+ besides) and only one thing which I really don´t like on Pixel is scrolling behaviour. On S10+, scroll is perfect for me, but overall, I like Pixel more, so I´d like to tune scrolling on Pixel if there is some way? Don´t you know about anything guys?
I am talking about when you give the screen a little nudge to scroll up or down, and it come to a slow, soft stop (S10+), or it comes to a rather abrupt stop like Pixel.
Thanks a lot.
there is
something about fling velocity
adding a line or two in the build.prop does it i cant remember it from the top of my head but if you google it im sure you can find it
Finger gestures is my biggest complaint about this device, and is enough reason for me to hate it. I can't wait to switch back to Samsung.
mine is rooted, and I would be interested to know about options here as well. I googled around but didn't find anything specific.
Hi everyone!
I'm a owner of a new Galaxy S20! Nice, small design, everything is working fine - execpt the Fingerprint sensor...
It is very bad, i scanned the same finger 3 times (as three single fingerprints) but it is still very bad in recognizing my FP! And the speed of unlocking isnt as good too...
Coming from an OnePlus 7t, i am defenitly shocked
For that price as a flagship i expect a bit more...
Maybe some of you can help, or have tips for me for "tuning" my FP sensor!
Thx a lot!
Not really. Making sure your hands are clean helps a lot - it's reading the raised section of your fingerprint as they press against the glass, if your hands are dirty the crevices get full and make it harder to see them.
To be fair, the first gen optical sensor on the 6T and the slightly improved one on the 7T 7 Pro are literally just cameras that compare photos to ones in memory. They're fast because they aren't super accurate. The ultrasonic ones on Samsung devices are more accurate but slow and finnicky. Honestly, I preferred the old style ones on the back, they were better in both regards.
It's slow and usually fails a couple of times on me as well. I switched to using face recognition and I'm very happy with it... I was surprised at how quick it is.
I have scanned my finger twice as well as added face unlock, and works pretty much always
Turn off Optimize Battery Usage for com.samsung.android.biometrics.app in Settings.
I have really dry hands (fingers). Usually takes me a few tries to unlock. And yes I've done all the tricks to try and speed things up.
Taking off the screen protector helps a lot, but ya its as bad as the s10 one.
Scanned my finger 9x's today before it decided to say "oh yeah, I know you." Coming from a OP7 PRO 5G, this is absolute garbage! Going to disable it and try the face recognition.
I am having similar issues. A couple of things that helped:
- disabled battery optimization for com.samsung.android.biometrics.app
- re-enrolled the finger (once) while holding it longer and at a different angles
I am also trying to train myself to touch and wait patiently until it unlocks.
Face recognition is not great imo...
If I disable biometrics app battery optimization and remove fingerprint animation it seems to be a little snappier. I came from 7pro and op has a larger sensor but I got used to s20+ and don't have any issues as long as I place my thumb on the right spot lol.
I left the stock screen protector it came with and I have no issues at all. I see a lot of people complaining that it doesn't work or that it sucks, but i personally love it. NEVER going to use face recognition or whatever else is there.
Same problem
Multiple presses to get in on 2 fingers. Phone keeps telling me to press harder!?!?! The phone will go back to Korea if press any harder.
Got my Sunny Yellow one delivered this morning so been playing with it most of the day. Initial impressions are very good, some are listed below. Feel free to list your own.
The fingerprint scanner was a little off but after an update came in i deleted my fingerprints and re-did them and its been fine ever since. Couple of times it hasnt worked but i think thats because the screen is so smooth/slippery that my thumb slipped on the screen as it was trying to read it.
I dont have a 5g plan or even 5g signal where i am to test but so far 4g speeds are exactly the same as my pixel 2xl and oppo reno 2 ive come from.
I dont really like having the "internet" tile, id prefer having them seperate the wifi and mobile data tab. Just seems strange to add a further click to enable/disable wifi when i want to instead of just hitting the tab.
On the home screen if you make a folder then the apps slightly overhang the edge of the circle which just looks odd to me, i wish they were all within the folder.
I wish there was an option of disabling the big clock on the lock screen. I have a picture of my partner on my lock screen and when picking up the phone id rather see her than her face covered by a huge clock
The phone got very hot when setting up and transferring apps/data from my old phone but has been fine since.
I love the screen and how smooth everything flows. I dont see any issue with brightness personally. Ill see how battery life performs over the coming days
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
The rounded edge screen is pretty terrible. There are optical distortions along the sides. The radius of the edge should be reduced to around 1 mm.
A little more width on the screen would be nice. This is 71.5mm. Nexus 6 was 74, which was a lot nicer. 80 would be a dream.
A little bit of border around the screen would also be nice so you have somewhere to actually hold the thing. Function should be paramount, not form, and especially not goofy/ugly form like these have. A bit of border above the screen would make space to get the camera out of the screen instead of the ugly hole. I also hate the rounded corners on the screen. Software rounded corners are ok, because you can disable them, there is no reason to force it with paint on the inside surface of the glass.
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The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
Love it so far, so fast and fluid. As mentioned above it gets real hot, and was still discharging while using old pixel charger.
Camera is amazing the details captured are stunning.
Phone is very slippery to hold and would be easy to drop with the top weight of the camera hump. Tried to buy a case for grip and protection, and was told that they can until tomorrow because that was the day the phone was supposed to be delivered, but because of our crap postal service they sent a day early so that people would or should get them by that date
Real time translation works very well, even with the new update still seems a little buggy
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
I could buy pixel charger which I might take back because it doesn't seem to charge an faster.
My wireless car charger for the pixel 4xl charges this phone at about the same speed as the old wall charger, need to see if it throttles for heat though..
dimm0k said:
feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
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I agree, but it also would be heavy
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
danw_oz said:
I agree, but it also would be heavy
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There as a day when heavy meant PREMIUM and light meant junk.
My laptop (lenovo), not even old, actually had some weights added into it to make it feel more substantial.
And so what if its a little heavier as long as it isn't burdensome. You can easily carry around several pounds without it being burdensome.
swieder711 said:
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
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If you were referring to the rounded CORNERS, there will be kind-of software solutions for the rounded corners. Right now you can run "wm size 1440x2890" to reduce the display area (persistently). This brings the display area past the camera hole and past the rounded corners. Now normally, there would be a system property available to adjust the corners, however this one has multi-radius corners which are set in a config for systemui, therefore will actually require a rebuild from source to fix, but once that is unset, it should have square corners.
However the side effect of course, will be a slightly smaller display area. Still wider than the non-Pro, but less than it is now. Not that you need all that height for any practical purpose.
And for that matter, you could use the same "wm size" command to reduce the display width to work around the rounded edges. "wm size 1300x3120" pulls the display area all the way into the flat part and eliminates the optical distortions. You could probably establish a better balance that lets it in just a little bit and probably gives the same width as the non-Pro.
ozzjim1 said:
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
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Nova Launcher was crashing for me but it seemed to be a clock widget I had previously and it wasn't displaying it.
I deleted the widget and rebooted the phone and it has been perfect since and all day today.
My screen now looks like my 3XL only longer, faster, smoother
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
Thanks for the tip on Nova, might rebuild my screen from scratch with it too ID the issue. The pixel launcher without some custom apps and grid sizes is a bit of a jarring experience. Search at the bottom is all wrong too.
magooo said:
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
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settings, display, lock screen, turn off "always show time and info"
danw_oz said:
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
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Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.
I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people
Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?
wekebu said:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
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Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer
According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out
Hello everyone,
I was wondering is there a way in increase the sensitivity on the edges of the screen or disable the palm rejection feature with APK on the pixel 6 pro?
I'm having a difficult time hitting certain ticks or cues on the edges of the screen when using certain apps. I've found myself having to purposefully aim slightly to the left or right depending on which side of the screen I am on.
Thanks for any input!
Hi esoplayer,
What kind of navigation do you use on your phone? Gestures, or the navigation bar. I was wondering if it was the gesture navigation that was getting in the way, possibly. I use gestures too, now, but I stuck with the navigation bar before I got my P6P.
Hey RoirraW,
I started with the gestures, but I found myself having to reach too far sometimes with my thumb in one handed use, or I would be swiping in a photo app and cause the back function to trigger.
I am currently using the navigation bar because of that, and it's also what I'm used to using coming from using the galaxy line of phones.
I thought that would clear it up too, but it's still giving me some troubles when trying to interact close to the fold of the edge screen.
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I thought that would clear it up too, but it's still giving me some troubles when trying to interact close to the fold of the edge screen.
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I see, well that's one possibility eliminated. For what it's worth, using my P6P in an OtterBox Defender case, I assumed my occasional trouble at the sides of the screen (but not that often) was because of the curve combined with the edge of the case, but maybe not.
Yeah I have the same issue and my case is not the culprit for sure, the screen edge does not respond to clicks even most times scrolling can be very frustrating if your trying to scroll to a very specific spot, very often I have to click or press that part of the screen 3-4 times before it registers
esoplayer said:
Hello everyone,
I was wondering is there a way in increase the sensitivity on the edges of the screen or disable the palm rejection feature with APK on the pixel 6 pro?
I'm having a difficult time hitting certain ticks or cues on the edges of the screen when using certain apps. I've found myself having to purposefully aim slightly to the left or right depending on which side of the screen I am on.
Thanks for any input!
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There is a bug that has been appearing since Feb with the Pixel 6 Pro. I experienced it a few months ago when re-flashing stock (it's an AOSP bug that has also appeared in custom ROMs).
This bug makes an invisible border around all edges (about 1 inch). When you long press on say the outer edges of Gboard (say numbers 1 and 0, q and p), do you experience issues?
Palm rejection has never been great on Pixels. It's decent, but it's not great. It's an old problem of Android (even though Samsung has it worked out mostly), plus Windows laptops also struggle with that. Only products I've seen yet with decent palm rejection are IPads.
Hmmm, perhaps this is a hit or miss issue amongst different apps as I rarely experience this problem. IIRC, I think I have experienced it in the Outlook app and haven't noticed it in any other applications. Weird...